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Post by freaky on Mar 25, 2011 3:31:54 GMT -5
Dear frito, & buginarug, I hope it was not inappropriate of me to re-post your posts here without your permission. If it wasn't. I hope I have your forgiveness. I would like to say, I'm sorry it came out so screwed up. I had some problems posting it, as I had a lot of notes that were out of order. Just wanted to let you, & all IT HAS BEEN REVISED, & I'm sorry I missed the many mistakes first time.
Thanks, freaky
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Post by kammy on Mar 25, 2011 9:20:02 GMT -5
Yes, this banana peel thing is interesting, isn't it. We don't know if they are feeding us good or bad information anymore - look at all the bad things they've told us.
If I had a food dehydrator, I'd make some chips from the banana peels and put them in some bad water and see what they do. Does everyone have a food dehydrator - you should be dehydrating (or canning) before everything is totally contaminated, it seems?
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Post by Lynn on Mar 25, 2011 19:57:06 GMT -5
Hey all
A very good friend had visited Cardacom and his research now shows Proxide with Iron feeds Morgellons and really eccellerates it growth. I use to use proxide when things were really bad and then I found diluted vinagar with Olive leaf oil, rosemary, tree tea oil, Pepperment soap, and Orange TKO worked even better and smells good if you mix in ingredients just right.
Here is my receipe if interested: 1 Cup of White Distilled Vinagar 1/4 C. Dr. Bronners Pepperment soap 1/2 Cap full of Orange TKO 7 drops of Olive Leaf oil 3 Drops of Tree Tea Oil 3 Drops of Rosemary oil Rest water
I Pre-spray clothes I am going to whare and it deters critters pretty good. In shower I let it set on body head to toe for 3 minutes and rinse well. Than I use my Sulfar soap and shampoos and that kills what I have on me. At night I leave it in my hair to deter head infestations and rarely have head troubles.
I want to also say I completely enjoy reading all your post even when I have a hard time understanding the science of it all. Hugs to all.
In Light Lynn
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Post by kammy on Mar 25, 2011 22:23:11 GMT -5
Thank you for sharing, Lynn. We never know that what works for us - might work for someone else too? I think we all have something slightly different going on as to what helps us and doesn't phase others but a group with approximately the same thing can respond alike. (if that made sense?) Your protocol sounds good.
Ok, I continue to show improvement with my lesions. Pdidit - we have approximately the same lesion symptoms going on, try some Epsom Salts and see if that helps you, too?
I'm drinking 2 teaspoons a day with water. Bathing in it & from time to time putting a paper towel in the solution and just laying that on the lesion for a little bit. I'm mixing it into my shampoo too and leaving it on my head during the entire bath and then rinsing and adding a regular conditioner. (I'm using a natural dandruff shampoo.)
It says you can drink up to 10 teaspoons at a time in 8oz of water, (gag!) it tastes horrible. So, I may up it to 4 teaspoons - twice a day... I'm going slow.
This is crazy thinking but I'm wondering if we're not more plant-like than we used to be? Epsom Salt is something you might put around certain plants to fertilize them or something like that - that we need plant nutrients and people nutrients both? That if we don't get enough plant food in our people food - we break out or have other symptoms?
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Post by toni on Mar 26, 2011 10:14:13 GMT -5
Oh Kammy.... I know what you said sounds weird about the "being plant like"....but you know what??? A MILLION times too I have thought the SAME thing because of how "things react" to us.
Wow do we have the same thoughts happening.
Just last night, well...every day and night, I think about Morgellons and what I'm going to "experiment with" and what's been tried, and failed and all of that, as I'm sure you do the same thing too.
But I got thinkin..medicines don't seem to help, not me anyways.
I was trying for a bit over a week now (Itraconazole and Myconazole) topically, as I mixed them together for a little "trial".
Well...I'm stopping that as it seems to be "helping this stuff along", which I noticed that yesterday.
I can't even list the all the anti fungals I've tried, as there's so many.
So what hit me (as it has many times before) is "what kills plants", because we know that many gm'ed plants are actually made up of a lot of the medicines ingredients-since it all basically comes from Mother Nature anyways, like Bacitracin, and well..everything really (bacillus subtilis) and many more "bacteriums or fungi" too, and that made me think of how that might contribute to helping "this mutated whatever it is" grow more.
So..natural things that plant life doesn't like, seems like a path that I have to go with. IF there's any cellular exchange with this stuff, which I'm sure there "could be"....then I don't have a clue how to remove just "one or a few things'.. do you know what I mean?
I say that because of how this stuff "melts" right into my own skin. Do you have that? Have you seen that? If the "clearish gel or opaque gel goo" is removed from the skin, and touches the surrounding skin, it melts right into perfectly good skin. And then 5 mintues later, to try and remove it, then I actually will pull up my skin with it, as though the two are now one (they combine that quickly).
Have you noticed that things like particular supplements or herbs seems to help keep a lid on this too, whereas the medicines might be increasing this "stuffs" growths?
I know imho, this stuff acts like a fungi well...several things, but fungi of some kind. Which causes me to keep coming back to "crown gall tumors" and how they develop in plants.
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Post by kammy on Mar 26, 2011 12:41:21 GMT -5
I think we have a lot of things going on, Toni - that's why there's so much to talk about, look at, and experiment with. They have messed us up good, IMO, and it's not just plant dna, it's other stuff too, so fighting and trying to figure it all out - is nearly impossible. I think the best we can do is to try and kill a pathogen here or there - if we can... keep our bad symptoms under control so that our lives are manageable and so that we can, at least - try to enjoy something good out of life. Do the best we can with what we've been dealt, try to help others, enjoy the things that are precious to us, spend more time with our families, make amends, and pray.
There's two ways to go here with us being more plant-like theory - we can look at things plants don't like and try to kill that part of us... OR... we can think along the terms that we have a plant disease and see what might be beneficial to make us healthier plants.
If they keep introducing these plant/algae/fungi pathogens, in whatever method that might be, we can try to kill and kill that aspect and it might be fruitless and cause a lot of herxing? Or, we can pretend like we have leaf spot disease (our lesions), or crown gall and see what helps plants rid that and look for the human equivalents in drugs, treatments or herbs?
We've heard garden/yard stories of where a person's yard was eaten up by something, or their fruit trees overtaken and they applied certain products and their lawns had full recoveries. (Warning - Not to say that we can take yard/garden products internally and expect to live!!) But studying, what are these products doing, how do they work and how is the plant getting healthier?
Most out here are poor and can't afford to spend $100 a month on a particular water, or $89 on a skin care system, or getting in line to see a particular doctor that our insurance won't cover, etc., we have to use practical, affordable - every day available products that will help us maintain and ward off some of the ongoing onslaught, without bringing us harm and helping us to feel and get better.
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Post by kammy on Mar 26, 2011 12:59:19 GMT -5
Like eating plain yogurt... Probiotics Ease Gut Problems Caused By Long Term Stress www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/04/060430002647.htm"However, probiotic treatment minimised the changes in chemical signalling and prevented bacterial "stickiness" and movement to the mesenteric lymph nodes. The authors say that probiotics literally compete for space with harmful bacteria and dampen down inflammatory responses, and as such, offer a potentially promising approach to the management of intestinal problems caused by stress."
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Post by toni on Mar 26, 2011 13:00:52 GMT -5
I completely agree with EVERYTHING you've said here.
Ditto on it all.
And you know, several people on our street (it's a cul-de-sac) had to have ALL their shrubs and trees removed a few years ago because there was some "fungi" invading and killing it all... and to prevent the spread, our neighbors spent thousands of dollars having people come in to remove it all. 3 neighbors that I know of did this removal.
One of our neighbors also (young woman) had to have a masectomy too, as she had breast cancer.
Two of our neighbors died.
A lot going on in this Morg infested area it seems.
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Post by kammy on Mar 27, 2011 8:35:13 GMT -5
Lesions
This was sent to me in a PM... anyone heard about this?
"Have you tried the Diaper Rash ointment + the certified organic macademia nut oil expeller pressed 100% pure----- by NOW Co.
Someone did a thread on it, & she said her lesions went away."
** I know diaper rash cream has zinc oxide in it which is good against our iron overload.
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Post by kammy on Mar 27, 2011 8:38:56 GMT -5
I completely agree with EVERYTHING you've said here. Ditto on it all. And you know, several people on our street (it's a cul-de-sac) had to have ALL their shrubs and trees removed a few years ago because there was some "fungi" invading and killing it all... and to prevent the spread, our neighbors spent thousands of dollars having people come in to remove it all. 3 neighbors that I know of did this removal. One of our neighbors also (young woman) had to have a masectomy too, as she had breast cancer. Two of our neighbors died. A lot going on in this Morg infested area it seems. Wow! I wouldn't doubt it though. But, I read (over a year ago) where a gardener used a plant food and turned his shrubs and yard around to health. Wonder if I can still find what it was he was doing that we can safely do? Start on page 223, don't these look like what we have? lol tinyurl.com/4up8s5o
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Post by jeany on Mar 27, 2011 9:59:43 GMT -5
Lesions This was sent to me in a PM... anyone heard about this? "Have you tried the Diaper Rash ointment + the certified organic macademia nut oil expeller pressed 100% pure----- by NOW Co. Someone did a thread on it, & she said her lesions went away." ** I know diaper rash cream has zinc oxide in it which is good against our iron overload. While zinc does seem beneficial, I'm not quite sure about zinc oxide due to it's nano components which is known to penetrate the skin and enter the bloodstreem. As we know, zinc oxide is often used in sunscreens to prevent skin sun damage. After reading this: When ointments containing ZnO and water are melted and exposed to ultraviolet light, hydrogen peroxide is produced. I'm wondering if not the sun but rather the sunscreens is what's causing skin damage due to the production of hydrogen peroxide? Another point is that an over production of hydrogen peroxide can cause apoptosis. In the past people have been told to avoid sun exposure whereas scientists are NOW proclaiming exactly to do the opposite due to emerging Vit D deficiencies in the population and new cases of Rickets. So, using zinc oxide ointments only on spots NOT exposed to sunlight would be ok?
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Post by kammy on Mar 27, 2011 12:25:17 GMT -5
3 Ways To Protect Yourself From Radiation NATURALLY theintelhub.com/2011/03/20/3-ways-to-protect-yourself-from-radiation-naturally/"Herbs There are several easy-to-obtain herbs that can be used for your protection. One of the best herbal protectors against radiation is Rosemary which contains Carnosic and Rosmarinic acids. According to Natural News, two different studies were done in Spain showing the positive effects of using Rosemary. Another food source of great protection is seaweed (kelp, spirulina, brown algae), due to its natural iodine content and ability to slow the accumulation of nuerotoxic metals. Buckwheat, tumeric, ginko, and any potassium-rich foods are also great ways to protect yourself."
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Post by kammy on Mar 27, 2011 13:13:23 GMT -5
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Post by kammy on Mar 28, 2011 16:19:32 GMT -5
Vitamin EAlpha-tocopherol: looking beyond an antioxidant. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19390643"Vitamin E is an important natural antioxidant, and its most common and biologically active form is alpha-tocopherol. In addition to this, specific regulatory effects of vitamin E have been revealing." Alpha-tocopherol: a multifaceted molecule in plants. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17628182"Evidence thus far indicates that the effects of this compound in plant cellular signaling may be linked to the control of redox homeostasis. alpha-Tocopherol may influence cellular signaling by controlling the propagation of lipid peroxidation in chloroplasts, therefore modulating the formation of oxylipins such as the phytohormone jasmonic acid."
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Post by kammy on Mar 29, 2011 9:19:43 GMT -5
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Post by frappergirl on Mar 29, 2011 22:46:58 GMT -5
Thats fascinating!Thanks! FrapperG
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Post by kammy on Mar 30, 2011 16:08:13 GMT -5
Webinar: Thursday, Mar 31st, 2011 7PM - 8PM MST Our Electromagnetic Era: www.carnicom.com/Webinar_Mar_31_2011.htmWhy ty, FrapperG, oxylipin is tying into another piece of research that several have done and we're doing, that's why I noted it. I believe it's involved somehow.
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Post by sheredelight on Mar 31, 2011 16:46:54 GMT -5
THIABENDAZOLE Has anyone tried this medacation for the Cryptostronglus Pulmoni, new species of nematode parasite ? And what of its side affects ? I would be really happy to know.... Cheers all
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Post by sheredelight on Mar 31, 2011 17:09:11 GMT -5
The following was presented by Dr. Hildegard Staninger to the National Registry of Environmental Professionals Conference in Nashville, TN, on Oct. 18th, 2006
63 % of the patients diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS) had a hidden lung worm, Cryptostronylus pulmoni cultured from their sputum. This species of worm is a nematode. Its male measures 250 nanometers, while the female measures between 750-100 namometers in length. (26) Currently, biological pesticide manufacturers are using nematode eggs as delivery systems of viral protein envelopes to corn, potatoes, and other agricultural feed materials that are used as feed for poultry, beef and domestic animals (cats and dogs).
Am i still grasping at straws and going round in circles so to speak. Feels like i am....omg The 5 people in Australia who i know have M's have or had a cat...
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Post by kammy on Mar 31, 2011 17:19:57 GMT -5
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