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Post by toni on Jun 1, 2011 11:15:17 GMT -5
Kammy, you've probably already heard about this outbreak with the cucumbers, lettuce and tomatoes, but just in case, here it is again. It's been in the news here quite a bit the last several days now. www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jun/01/e-coli-germany |
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Post by Lynn on Jun 1, 2011 11:25:31 GMT -5
Hi Kammy
Very sorry to hear about your friend. I hope someone like minded like her comes in to the recue and help her on a better path.
In Light lynn
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Post by frappergirl on Jun 1, 2011 11:29:36 GMT -5
Sorry, I am in a rush but wanted to talk with 'Itchin' Hi yah! on my way out the door but wanted to say about the 'taking supplements' The thought is with the practitioners that I work with is this. 'Did you notice when you first had symptoms of morgellons that all your good things seemed to stop working? vitamins etc? Their thought is that the biofilm build up makes a film in the body so the body cannot absorb the vits, etc. So one needs to have testing to see what is 'now' deficient,and to start gently gently gently(did I say gently) start clearing the film. While at the same time rebalancing the system with what now is deficient. (rechecking as you go,we should be working toward healing) THEN...sometimes with us morgies the 'Detox pathways block' ...so we have to back it up a notch and do something like a lymph system drain. Problem is even with some Holistic minded practitioners they just throw everything at a morgie in a shot gun approach and the poor little morgie body spits out more sores swells up and says 'no' I ain't moven...So in that case we need testing to tell which enzymes will help etc and things like lymph drain to give us a much needed help out.
Sorry gotta run will check back laters! ... FrapperG
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Post by kammy on Jun 1, 2011 11:39:46 GMT -5
Kammy, you've probably already heard about this outbreak with the cucumbers, lettuce and tomatoes, but just in case, here it is again. It's been in the news here quite a bit the last several days now. www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jun/01/e-coli-germanyHey, Toni, been missing you!... Yeah, I'm hot on the case, Louise. lol It's a mystery here... people are getting pretty sick in places. We're not eating any raw vegetables right now. This is bizarre that all you have to do is touch a cucumber and get deathly sick !!  Geez! This is E-coli like you're eating bad, raw hamburger meat... never heard of this before. I have a 'theory'... but, these are the best scientists in the world -  they'll figure it out soon, I'm sure! BUT, WILL THEY TELL US? ;D |
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Post by kammy on Jun 1, 2011 12:28:26 GMT -5
Hi Kammy Very sorry to hear about your friend. I hope someone like minded like her comes in to the recue and help her on a better path. In Light lynn TY, Lynn, I haven't talked to her in a while. She's from Czechoslovakia, originally - came to America to raise herself up in the world. She said nurses didn't get paid much 'back home' and she built this 'mansion' for her family to come live in the U.S. with her, but her family didn't want to come - so, she's in a big, beautiful house basically by herself. She works where I went to the ER, she wasn't on duty when I went - but, the nurses there were so ugly. I went in at 11pm, thought I was going to die, and they kept putting people in front of me, at 4am, I finally complained... and the nurses laughed at me. I ended up walking out at 6am, still not seen - totally exhausted, frustrated, sick - to deal with what felt like a bioweapon had been loosed on my body, by myself with home remedies. So, I know she's been a part of or seen a part of this discrimination - I've never talked to her about 'things' of this nature, and now - she's basically ineffective if she could have been any help to what's going on. I would think she'd be the type to not want to participate. When I talked to her last, we talked about me being in Germany and I told her I was 'allergic' to the environment over there, that I didn't think the food was the most wholesome, I didn't mention 'Morgellons'. She seemed to think that by purchasing 'organic' foods - she was ok, I didn't want to argue otherwise. I told her she needed to go back home and get back with her family... I wish I had reached out more to her. |
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Post by toni on Jun 1, 2011 13:00:55 GMT -5
Kammy, you've probably already heard about this outbreak with the cucumbers, lettuce and tomatoes, but just in case, here it is again. It's been in the news here quite a bit the last several days now. www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jun/01/e-coli-germanyHey, Toni, been missing you!... Yeah, I'm hot on the case, Louise. lol It's a mystery here... people are getting pretty sick in places. We're not eating any raw vegetables right now. This is bizarre that all you have to do is touch a cucumber and get deathly sick !! Geez! This is E-coli like you're eating bad, raw hamburger meat... never heard of this before. I have a 'theory'... but, these are the best scientists in the world - they'll figure it out soon, I'm sure! BUT, WILL THEY TELL US? ;D hehehe you're so funny (Thelma). ;D  Yes, all that's been in the newspapers here quite a lot. Weird huh? We get 'your news' and you've gotten ours in Vegas before I ever even knew about it. Take care. |
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Post by bannanny on Jun 1, 2011 13:53:24 GMT -5
I'm so sorry about your friend kammy... I hope she gets better and away from those docs. I agree with you about anti depressents too... what a huge scam that one is. Like I've always said... who in this world isn't depressed? So they took it by the horns, knowing everyone would be more than willing to jump on that bandwagon. Biggest money maker out there... along with viagra and the lot!
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Post by kammy on Jun 1, 2011 13:57:49 GMT -5
It's a special variety of E-coli... of course, they don't know a lot about how all it's transmitted. If it was an E-coli found in nature, that's been there for thousands of years - you think they'd know something about it by now?... I rest my case - this is obviously some sort of hybrid, man-made, lab design of a Nobel Prize winner's concoction? It's the: Shiga toxin-producing E. coli, or STEC www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S1517-83822000000400005  Dang! What a party when the STEC meets the Morg HeLa cells, who's going to win?... |
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Post by kammy on Jun 1, 2011 14:05:38 GMT -5
I'm so sorry about your friend kammy... I hope she gets better and away from those docs. I agree with you about anti depressents too... what a huge scam that one is. Like I've always said... who in this world isn't depressed? So they took it by the horns, knowing everyone would be more than willing to jump on that bandwagon. Biggest money maker out there... along with viagra and the lot! I know, Banny. But, she's in the 'nether' world where she's studied medicine most of her life, she believes in what her work represents, she trusts the doctors to be making the best decisions on her behalf... oh, goodness! How do you reach folks who are sitting in the middle of the 'mouse trap'? I haven't talked to her yet, I'm going to try and gently nudge her to see if she can see ANY reality... and to get away from the shock treatment, if nothing else!... |
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Post by toni on Jun 1, 2011 15:56:38 GMT -5
Kammy,  Kammy - I found our Thelma and Louise picture ;D ;D Now I want to see this movie again..it was pretty cool. |
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Post by itchin4answers on Jun 1, 2011 16:14:37 GMT -5
Sorry, I am in a rush but wanted to talk with 'Itchin' Hi yah! on my way out the door but wanted to say about the 'taking supplements' The thought is with the practitioners that I work with is this. 'Did you notice when you first had symptoms of morgellons that all your good things seemed to stop working? vitamins etc? Their thought is that the biofilm build up makes a film in the body so the body cannot absorb the vits, etc. So one needs to have testing to see what is 'now' deficient,and to start gently gently gently(did I say gently) start clearing the film. While at the same time rebalancing the system with what now is deficient. (rechecking as you go,we should be working toward healing) THEN...sometimes with us morgies the 'Detox pathways block' ...so we have to back it up a notch and do something like a lymph system drain. Problem is even with some Holistic minded practitioners they just throw everything at a morgie in a shot gun approach and the poor little morgie body spits out more sores swells up and says 'no' I ain't moven...So in that case we need testing to tell which enzymes will help etc and things like lymph drain to give us a much needed help out. Sorry gotta run will check back laters! ... FrapperG Hi Frappergirl, I don't think I would have Morgellons if all my good things had stopped working...lol. I do appreciate your post, however I have tried many natural therapies; acupuncture & reiki in the early days. When I was much sicker Bowen therapy & lymphatic drainage - made me worse. I felt Morgellons stemmed from the lymphatic system (literally) like a fruiting body (plant). My lymphs are all blocked, my detox pathways are caput. My doctor said my last blood test showed I had no vitamin deficiencies. If I don't take supplements I can't function. Having tests for enzymes is unheard of in a GP's surgery. Thanks for the advice Frappergirl, but I feel I am in a no win situation & on my own with this one. itchin |
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Post by itchin4answers on Jun 1, 2011 17:43:21 GMT -5
From link; Psychologists have found that people are distracted from the task at hand nearly half the time, and this daydreaming consistently makes them less happyI disagree, I used to love daydreaming, in fact I think it's normal! Happiness is found by living in the now, particularly if the now involves having sex, according to a major study into mental wellbeing.Thinking back to when my life was somewhat normal, question to the ladies - how many times would your mind wander off during sex to things such as the laundry & housework? I think that's normal too, but that's just my opinion! I found this in one of my folders; Epicurus 341BC-270BC - What is and is not essential for happinessNatural & NecessaryFriends, Freedom, Thought (about main sources of anxiety; death, illness, poverty, superstition), Food, Shelter, Clothes. Natural but UnnecessaryGrand House, Private Baths, Banquets, Servants, Fish, Meat Neither natural nor necessaryFame Power |
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Post by kammy on Jun 2, 2011 6:46:59 GMT -5
Well... we've all seen in the movies the woman with her man who is looking at her watch in the process... lol... Ok, this 'thing' is getting uglier by the minute! It's costing $3 million Euro a day ($4.5 in dollars) for them not to find what is the source of the E-coli is. So, if you're a lettuce or tomato farmer here you're probably in financial trouble. I asked a person who worked at a bank - what happens when the farmer's crops fail or they have a bad time - she said, 'we give them low interest loans'. So, to some - this is good business. I see today that the rest of the world is now not accepting EU vegetables, as it should. This is bad for farming - some will probably go completely out of business, less food - less food for the world market, the cost of food will probably go up. Also - two people visiting here have supposedly 'carried' it back to the U.S. WHO: Killer E. coli strain never detected before www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43248315/ns/health-food_safety/t/who-killer-e-coli-strain-never-detected/"This is a unique strain that has never been isolated from patients before,"... U.S. news: www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43227702/ns/health-infectious_diseases/t/two-us-infected-german-e-coli-outbreak/Do you think a vaccine will be in the works against the E-coli soon?  Isn't it ironic that they can identify a bizarre two-strained entity within a week, but when you present the most bizarre Morgellons - they can't see it at all? Great photos, Toni - yeah, I want to see that movie again, too. |
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Post by kammy on Jun 2, 2011 7:27:25 GMT -5
Speaking of the cost of food, I've lost track. I only hear that the cost of food has gone up in America - what are the cost of basics now? The costs here:
10 Eggs (not sold by the dozen, depends on what kind you buy) - $1.69 Euro
Loaf of bread - .89 cents (wheat sandwich)
Oven baked with seeds - $1.89
1 Gal. Milk - approx. $2.50 (sold in liter cartons, 3.6 liters = gal., .69 cents per liter)
What are you gals paying over in Australia now?
1 dollar = .70 cents Euro
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Post by kammy on Jun 2, 2011 7:45:52 GMT -5
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Post by toni on Jun 2, 2011 8:55:11 GMT -5
Speaking of the cost of food, I've lost track. I only hear that the cost of food has gone up in America - what are the cost of basics now? The costs here: 10 Eggs (not sold by the dozen, depends on what kind you buy) - $1.69 Euro Loaf of bread - .89 cents (wheat sandwich) Oven baked with seeds - $1.89 1 Gal. Milk - approx. $2.50 (sold in liter cartons, 3.6 liters = gal., .69 cents per liter) What are you gals paying over in Australia now? 1 dollar = .70 cents Euro Kammy yes, food is on the rise, and they expect it to double within the next 10-15 or so years. *I just read about that* Here in NV we see a 10 cent to 25 cent increase on the same products from one week to the next, which is like it's out of control. Milk just went up from last week from 2.59 a gallon to now it's 2.69 a gallon. For a dozen eggs, they're between 2.69 and 3.50. A loaf of plain ole Home Pride Wheat bread is almost 4.00. And those are just the "basics". |
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Post by kammy on Jun 2, 2011 9:30:28 GMT -5
$4.00 for a loaf of basic bread? That's an hour's pay for the average take home pay after taxes and gas person. You have to work an hour a day to pay for your daily bread? That's crazy!
I got the prices wrong... things are cheaper than I quoted.
A loaf of wheat sandwich bread is .49 - .69 Euro cents. (less than $1)
Lindsey Williams says that the cost of gasoline is in direct proportion to the value of the dollar. If the gas prices keep rising - that shows how much the dollar is being devalued.
I read somewhere that only 3% of American women know how to make bread from scratch. If you are storing food, and there's a way to do it so that such things as flour can remain fresh for long periods of time, there's youtubes out there on how to do it... and we might need to learn how to make bread from scratch?
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Post by toni on Jun 2, 2011 9:41:15 GMT -5
$4.00 for a loaf of basic bread? That's an hour's pay for the average take home pay after taxes and gas person. You have to work an hour a day to pay for your daily bread? That's crazy! I got the prices wrong... things are cheaper than I quoted. A loaf of wheat sandwich bread is .49 - .69 Euro cents. (less than $1) Well, after tax you'd have a tiny bit of change left. But yes, it's outta-control. Believe me, I don't know how people feed a big family. tinyurl.com/3d4nu7uThat's why these 10 cent to 25 cent increases weekly *(seriously)* are a gouge and a half. And with the disappearance of the bees, and so many resources dying off the way it is...it's just going to get worse. We're all caught in the vicious cycle because of all the destruction. |
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Post by bannanny on Jun 2, 2011 9:52:09 GMT -5
I hope she'll listen to you kammy... and I guess we should get our home made bread machine out of the closet too!
You and jeany bean take care of yourselves ok? We sure don't need you picking up that weird strain of E. Coli!
big hugs ~~ bannanny
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Post by kammy on Jun 2, 2011 11:08:10 GMT -5
Thanks, Banny... we're trying to steer clear but... this is strange because of the conflicting information. It's actually not the E-coli found on vegetables, per se. I don't understand it fully yet because they are spoon-feeding us information because they supposedly don't know the cause yet. My impression is that it's the E-coli found on vegetables plus another strain (from animals?) mixed that has jumped to humans, zoonotic? It can live on objects touched by the hands for a period of time, not sure about air born or body fluids?... If that's the case, this will be an epidemic. So, you won't have to come into contact with the vegetable necessarily, just someone who's had contact or contact with a contact... on and on... like a 'plague', I hope it isn't that serious, but, it's not sounding good. It started in a port city, so... this is indicative. If someone has it out for the Germans, it wouldn't be hard - flies are everywhere. Some of the bakeries and food serving places don't have backs on their counters where they keep the food, no screen doors nor on most of the windows. Some do have bug zappers inside their counters though. It's like going back in time 2,000 years, I like it here though, that's just part of its quaintness and flavor. Most of the people don't think much about the flies and gnats as disease carriers, that's just the way it's been here - 'oh, that's just a fly...', it's mostly cold or cool and they aren't seen except in the peak hot months. In our realistic neurosis, lol - we're avoiding those food places with open-backed glass counters, though. And, yes, don't get rid of your bread making machines - you'll be rolling out real dough soon, at the sound of the prices. |
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Geez! This is E-coli like you're eating bad, raw hamburger meat... never heard of this before. I have a 'theory'... but, these are the best scientists in the world - 
they'll figure it out soon, I'm sure! BUT, WILL THEY TELL US? ;D
