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Post by kammy on Sept 20, 2010 7:35:13 GMT -5
Unfortunately, we have had little help in looking at, getting help for and solving our disease - we have had to resort to self-treatments in some cases and this is a shame. We are thankful to have sites such as this that have donated their time, energy and money so that we can brainstorm and try to find some answers, thank you administrators for your future sight and caring.
I wanted to start a thread to put some inventions, theories, thoughts, patents, observations, etc. on therapies that might help us to detox, to feel better and a place to share our combined knowledge for the new person coming along or for those here that may need more help.
Of course, any therapies mentioned here are secondary to what our physicians are prescribing, it is always recommended to be under a doctor's care over self treatment, IMO. My main concern is always to bring no harm, please keep that in mind for others.
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Post by kammy on Sept 20, 2010 8:10:37 GMT -5
Do they really not want us to get well? Do they consider that there are too many people on the planet? Are the cures for diseases really related to how much money will be made in the process? Of course, we are all having different symptoms and different experiences with our illnesses, some of us appear worse than others. Believing that we all have some things in common and also believing that some of the agents at work inside my disease are some sort of man-made synthetic/real lab creation, which may not be true for you and is only subjective on my part, I am looking toward short-circuiting the thermodynamic engine that is driving my disease machine parts. I believe that safely electrifying the blood in some fashion is possibly a good thing. There was a post recently on some sort of 'pyro' machine that was dismissed and I believe that this concept might be helpful to us? Not to promote the machine, as it is expensive and can be found cheaper, but to look closer at the concept. I viewed this youtube below a while back and haven't followed up in this direction and don't know if any one here has either, but I am not getting much better and feel the need to start experimenting with something and this might be a good avenue to try? Has anyone else tried anything along this line? www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkCHrV6cCfw&feature=relatedThe patent mentioned above: www.freepatentsonline.com/5188738.html |
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Post by kammy on Sept 20, 2010 8:51:10 GMT -5
I have lesions that no matter what I put on them, they aren't getting healed. Some have been there for almost a year now. I've taken the Lyme Disease drugs and these drugs didn't make the lesions go away, either.
Let's talk about lesions a minute for those of us struggling? What I think is happening, and I could be wrong, is that there are different types of lesions, for whatever reasons. I appear to have 3 different-looking lesion types. Whatever is fueling these lesions appears to be coming from inside out, there is nothing topical that seems to phase them, and even the drugs internally didn't phase them. Not that they can't, I may not have gotten the right drugs?
Some of us have like a deep, embedded fungus-like disease in our skin in some cases that has a core or cones that cannot be easily removed by anything we can do, and others don't have this happening. Those that don't have this happening, topicals can help.
With some of us, if we leave these embedded lesions alone - we have had gel/synthetic or live insects hatch from our skin. Some of us pick, mess with, are tormented for most of our waking hours with managing our lesions, and then some of us are not tormented on this same level at all.
Someone asked me in a PM what my opinion was on whether to pick at their lesions or not, that their family members were trying to get them to stop for a while. Maybe, they will come out and talk to us? What I said was - I know that they have produced 'critters' in the past from this area, I know that my ear has produced 'critters'... and if I leave it alone... I might get 'critters' again and I don't want 'critters' to ever happen again, that was no fun. And the flat lesions on my skin... I don't pick at. To pick or not to pick, that is the question?
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Post by kammy on Sept 20, 2010 10:17:22 GMT -5
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Post by jeany on Sept 20, 2010 12:02:30 GMT -5
I'm glad Kamsters opened this thread because I think it's most important to detox our bodies and esp. the 'newbies' should be aware of this. Here is some excellent information on how to detox the body with natural and cheap stuff you can buy at any grocery store. Activated Charcoal is one of them and it's very good not only to detox but whenever we feel sick in the stomache we take a few tabletts and we feel fine shortly after. It really 'cleans up'. www.naturalnews.com/029763_Gulf_of_Mexico_benzene.htmlOne of the best and least expensive items that can remove benzene and other toxins is activated charcoal. Activated charcoal absorbs (pulls to itself), and it will pull toxins out of the bloodstream and through the intestines. Hence the benzene and other toxins will go directly into ingested charcoal and out the toilet without stress to the liver and other organs. Baking soda (bicarbonate) is another valuable item which removes toxins. Internally, baking soda mops up toxic messes and carries the poisons away. In the process it makes it easier for the body to maintain a healthy alkaline balance. Bentonite clay can also be used both internally and externally in clay baths to remove toxins. Another powerhouse for eliminating benzene is lemon juice, a well-known benzene binder. Use about 12 large lemons per one gallon of distilled water. other suggestions: Chlorella, cilantro, parsley, apple pectin, niacin and zeolite minerals are all good cleansers. Use glutathione suppositories immediately upon the signs of any symptom onset. Take iodine, selenium, vitamin B12, vitamin D3 and vitamin C to help eliminate toxins.... Perhaps we should consider taking/using it on a daily basis? Jeany |
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Post by bannanny on Sept 20, 2010 14:32:18 GMT -5
Just want you to know I'm interested in your thread kam... but I'll have to get back tomorrow. I started watching the vids but my head also started to pound 1/2 way thru the first one. Had an infected tooth extracted this am and the numbness is starting to wear off now... dam! So I'm gonna go lay down for awhile... but I wanted to ask you one quick question first. Is this on the same lines as the Rife machine or not?
See ya tomorrow kids...
love ya's ~~ bannanny
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Post by kammy on Sept 20, 2010 18:31:25 GMT -5
You mean post #3, Banny? I think it does, it's a youtube sound frequencies on the scale to repair our dna. You know me, I'm flighty... it's whatever you want to talk about... I'm sorry to hear about your tooth pain, I know that's no fun.
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Post by Lynn on Sept 21, 2010 1:19:45 GMT -5
Hi all
Do not forget when detoxing. You need to do Organic please. Store bought Baking Soda has alunimun in it. Buy it Organic online or from a health food store. Also you need to build up your emmune system and support all the organs that are so weak and over worked from bug toxins and the dease. Please Prime the pump first before big detoxes and long and slow and gentle is easier on the body.
In Light Lynn
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Post by toni on Sept 21, 2010 7:52:09 GMT -5
I have lesions that no matter what I put on them, they aren't getting healed. Some have been there for almost a year now. I've taken the Lyme Disease drugs and these drugs didn't make the lesions go away, either. Let's talk about lesions a minute for those of us struggling? What I think is happening, and I could be wrong, is that there are different types of lesions, for whatever reasons. I appear to have 3 different-looking lesion types. Whatever is fueling these lesions appears to be coming from inside out, there is nothing topical that seems to phase them, and even the drugs internally didn't phase them. Not that they can't, I may not have gotten the right drugs? Some of us have like a deep, embedded fungus-like disease in our skin in some cases that has a core or cones that cannot be easily removed by anything we can do, and others don't have this happening. Those that don't have this happening, topicals can help. With some of us, if we leave these embedded lesions alone - we have had gel/synthetic or live insects hatch from our skin. Some of us pick, mess with, are tormented for most of our waking hours with managing our lesions, and then some of us are not tormented on this same level at all. Someone asked me in a PM what my opinion was on whether to pick at their lesions or not, that their family members were trying to get them to stop for a while. Maybe, they will come out and talk to us? What I said was - I know that they have produced 'critters' in the past from this area, I know that my ear has produced 'critters'... and if I leave it alone... I might get 'critters' again and I don't want 'critters' to ever happen again, that was no fun. And the flat lesions on my skin... I don't pick at. To pick or not to pick, that is the question? Kammy, I sure agree, and know just what you mean about the different (types) of lesions. (The productive lesions) meaning, the ones that continue producing things that come out of them, I sort of compare them to thorn in the skin. Individually we know if there's something "in our skin", and if those lesions are covered up, they will cause a break through somewhere else in the skin in another area, because the stuff inside does need to come out, from what I've found. And you're right, no matter what is put on those "productive" lesions stops that lesion from producing "junk" until we find what is going to work to kill off whatever it is inside that lesion. I'm always trying concotions on my "productive lesion"...but so far - I've not found what will just kill the stuff inside. All of my other lesions, stopped producing "junk"...and those don't need messed with anymore. But whatever this stuff/junk is, it does need an exit, (picked out) or removed or it will find another exit and break through the skin somewhere else, doing the same thing - if the one we're removing stuff from is covered or the picking (removal) of *debris* is stopped. Imho, it must come out. Because it is sort of *like* a festered thorn in that we can feel the stuff inside is busting to come out. So, as long as it's growing there...and filling up, it's gotta go, imho. |
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Post by toni on Sept 21, 2010 7:53:19 GMT -5
Jeany, Good post about "natural detoxers".  |
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Post by kammy on Sept 21, 2010 13:26:37 GMT -5
Yes, yes, yes, thank you all for participating. Thank you Jeany for posting, hi, Lynn - I wasn't aware of the aluminium in the baking soda - but don't doubt it, that logo is a powerful mason symbol, and yes Toni, I agree, very good advice, IMO. I'm taking some activated charcoal now and think my lesions are changing - drying up, this is my third day, I'll keep you posted. I think that unknowingly we have been, and continue daily to be subjected to toxins... we've been thinking that we were trying to better our health but there have been factors robbing us all along. We have to detox and build up the immune system. (BTW, if you decide to take charcoal, be aware that it will interact with other medicines taken within 20 minutes.) Informative post, Jeany, and could help those coming into contact with the additional environmental toxins to help the folks in more toxic regions? I know my outer layer of skin is screwed up somehow and we haven't looked much at how to repair the epidermis, that might be helpful? I appear to have dry, flaky, not oily, cracking, reptile-like  ;D, quickly aging skin - is that true or false for you? I'm always looking at something... on using the rife machine or sound frequency, I saw this video and thought about an experiment: www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8pqtPOHQEI&feature=relatedWhat if I take a petri dish with cultured specimen and turn on the rife machine and at the same time look with the microscope at it to see exactly which frequencies seem to cause the artifacts to change - now, that would be tedious but a neat experiment wouldn't it? Even though the rife machine has a Morgellons setting - I wonder... |
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Post by Baraka Obam on Sept 21, 2010 17:55:49 GMT -5
I was not aware either of baking SODA having any aluminum in it either and can not find that to be true. I did find a BAKING POWDER, with some sort of aluminum en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baking_powder |
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Post by ibzahp on Sept 21, 2010 22:03:58 GMT -5
Arm & Hammer baking soda has aluminan in it. You can buy baking soda that doesnt from health food store or co-op or take alka selzer gold
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Post by Baraka Obam on Sept 21, 2010 23:35:12 GMT -5
lets see the information online. I can not find it , I can't find anything on BAKING SODA with aluminum,
I can find BAKING POWDER ONLY>>>>>>>> POWDER!
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Post by kammy on Sept 22, 2010 12:25:22 GMT -5
Not sure which search engine you're using, but if you use dogpile, you can see that it could or doesn't depending on what you read and how you enter your search criteria. We can assume that there are pathogens everywhere attacking us non-stop, so is the way of modern life, this is about how to get rid of some of them. We can assume that any product that comes into contact with water, soil or air, for that matter, can possibly contain pathogens?
Yes, some of us have grown some strange things in petri dishes that might match some our disease artifacts but we don't really know, all we can do is suspect. I would say that the best way to draw a good conclusion is to look or test for pathogens yourself, those not promoting this are doing you a dis-service, we know what aluminium looks like. You don't have to publish your findings for fear of being wrong and being attacked by dis-information, just keep your opinions to yourselves or drop us a parable of a hint because censorship is becoming more at hand. If we keep waiting on our government to tell us what's really going on... well...
How's everyone feeling and what are you doing to feel better? Does anyone have a persistent cough?
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Post by Baraka Obam on Sept 22, 2010 12:38:14 GMT -5
aluminum is not a pathogen it is a mineral and if someone is going to put the NIX on a very good inexpensive tool used on the lesions or in bath water by saying this or that, lets get a web address to prove it.
I will state once again BAKING SODA will pull of no results in a search that I found for ALUMINUM, but in case of the brain fog that may curtail our thinking some times we may misplace words, thats ok but now I will right that perceived wrong.
From what I can find BAKING SODA has no ALIMINUM in it while
BAKING POWDER I say BAKING POWDER is a mixture of things and it DOES have ALUMINUM in it
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Post by jeany on Oct 10, 2010 10:17:29 GMT -5
As we all know it's most important to detox. Here's a good article about Chlorella and it's strong effects in heavy metal detoxification and immune boosting. It also neutralizes environmental toxins and pollutants Taking it esp. after dental repair/dental fillings is highly recommended. Chlorella is one of my daily supplements, since 2 years now. In the beginning of this ailment I took 3x 4 tabs daily, but have now reduced to 1x6 tabs. www.naturalnews.com/026147_chlorella_cancer_body.htmlChlorella is also seen to kill cancer cells and help with thyroid problems...and as a natural wound healer. Jeany |
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Post by jeany on Oct 10, 2010 10:23:28 GMT -5
more info: www.naturalnews.com/027384_chlorella_health_benefits.htmlAmino Acids. Chlorella is a rich source of protein with a balance of important amino acids, including all of the essential ones which the body can't manufacture. These aminos are responsible for rebuilding the body's lean tissues and neurotransmitters, and contribute greatly to many functions in the body. Chlorophyll. This green pigment not only gives chlorella its color, but it also provides many health benefits. Chlorophyll can improve immunity, alkalinity, and inflammation Digestion. Chlorella promotes the production of healthy flora, bacteria and probiotics throughout the digestive system. This is essential for good digestion and overall health, and also makes chlorella effective for fighting candida and yeast overgrowth. Its anti-inflammatory benefits can also work to heal the digestive system. Energy. A nourished, healthy body is full of energy and vitality. Many people report increased energy and elevated mood after using chlorella. Nothing can compare to the way it feels to be powered by a true superfood. |
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Post by jj on Oct 10, 2010 12:40:37 GMT -5
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Post by kammy on Oct 11, 2010 5:31:30 GMT -5
Thanks, JJ, for clearing that up. We're talking about buying a room air purifier and I'm starting to look and it seems quite confusing with the various types; hepa, uv, ozone...? which one or a combination? What does anyone else recommend? Air Purifier Danger: OZONE WARNING in CONSUMER REPORTS www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFLO6huFyX4Air Purification: Top 9 Air Purifier Scams Review www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8UEtuJuECU&NR=1 |
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;D, quickly aging skin - is that true or false for you?