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Post by ibzahp on Apr 10, 2011 21:30:21 GMT -5
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Post by xiblanque on Apr 10, 2011 21:48:07 GMT -5
Hi Ibzahp,
This is so Horrible,
This has become a financial windfall to landowners here in South Texas. Little do they know what is heading their way. The quakes in the New Madrid Fault line have been attributed to fracking by some researchers. It really seems as if we are being assaulted on every front these days... Gulf of Mexico, Pacific NW/Fukashima, GMO/Processed Foods, Pharmacueticals, Fracking/Contaminated Water, Chemtrails and the list goes on and on. These all seem to lead to Hypertoxicity in the body and the body trying to detox through the skin... sound familiar?
It almost seems deliberate.
so sad.
Xib
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Post by ibzahp on Apr 10, 2011 22:15:23 GMT -5
Yeah it sure does feel like a race to the bottom.Its just impossible to comprehend the ignorant mindset. Here in Western WA were contending w/radiation. bad craziness.
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Post by xiblanque on Apr 11, 2011 10:02:14 GMT -5
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Post by xiblanque on Apr 13, 2011 14:56:16 GMT -5
More Questions than Answers..... Okay. so apparently T. Boone Pickens has taken up our cause and has made a "generous" donation to OSU's Research Lab ($100,000). This all seems great. However I have more questions than answers concerning Fracking and the effects it may have on our environment and our health. I am not saying this is negative, just that it all is overwhelming... especially with $5.00 plus gallons of gasoline forecast for the near future and the idea that natural gas is somehow cleaner that other fuel sources. www.pickensplan.com/news/2011/04/07/sponsors-co-sponsors-of-the-nat-gas-act-hr-1380/ see the reply by Shelly Thomas 3/4 of the way down the page. some very poignant comments concerning HR 1380 and T. Boone Pickens. rense.com/general93/FRACK.HTMI am conflicted about all of this info. |
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Post by toni on Apr 14, 2011 9:41:40 GMT -5
I felt compelled to jump in here, since I was the one who posted
that *thread* on T Boone Pickens, and hadn't read it over "throughly"...
as I was solely too EXCITED that we or (Morgellons) got TV
exposure.
I don't know much about "fracking"...but, I've read what's
been posted, so it doesn't look like a good thing, like everything
else that's done. Food, water, air, (atom blasting/CERN) all of it.
And imho...none of it's good for us or the environment, since
*life* itself is a product of it's environment.
After reading the article (as I finally did) T Boone Pickens is
going to "double" what donations have been contributed
after the donation/contribution amount hits 50K and there's
more. (it's in that article).
So as for any "connections" to what Mr Pickens does....that
wasn't my concern, if you know what I mean (just because I
posted that thread).
I was THRILLED to see a TV broadcast, touting the word
Morgellons, and well, that's it.
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Post by xiblanque on Apr 14, 2011 9:53:02 GMT -5
I agree Toni,
It is thrilling to see a TV broadcast giving us much needed exposure.
I wish that true alternatives to some of our energy and environmental
issues were available or being discussed or implemented.
As I was saying, I have more questions than answers and I love what
you've said...." Life itself is a product of it's environment"
Concerning Fracking/Morgellons and T. Boone Pickens..
It really isn't quite so straight forward an issue.
Xib
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Post by toni on Apr 14, 2011 10:13:49 GMT -5
I know what you mean, and thanks also. You know (not to get off the subject) but just something real interesting, or I sure found it interesting. But... there was a video'd seminar awhile back, (I'll see if I can find it) - and to keep it short here, it was about 'proposed use possibilites of gravity'....a VERY natural source we all have on this planet. DUH... ;D I thought YES - when I saw the talk of it, because of course, "right under our noses" as usual - are generally the best answers for most problems. ;D And how brilliant, to use gravity (for economic needs) instead of "the sources we're sucking out of Mother Earth"...and in the process, our (mans) destructive ways in which everything is taken with abuse to all in it's way, is always like taking one step forwards, but always with 10 more steps backwards!  Plus...no pollution. Using natural as it gets (gravity) for all kinds of everything, wouldn't that be REAL technology. I thought so.  And yes, being always (as *life's cells*) are continually adapting to all it ingests, and all it's exposed to....cells develop to survive, and if they're forced to survive in utter pollution/toxic garbage really... we then become made up of "toxic substances" because our cells - are us. 1/2 of life will survive, as it adapts and "becomes part of what it's exposed to"....and the other half dies off. I wish "man" would think. Because that's all it takes, is one single thought in EVERYTHING that's done and that one thought is just simply (what about tomorrow)? If only that dictated "ways" of how to's....I only wish. Even that is right under (their) noses too, the people making decisions in what they do...yet it's the greatest ignorance of 'mankind for some reason'. Because *tomorrow* does come, we're all living it. |
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Post by toni on Apr 14, 2011 10:44:58 GMT -5
This video, (I found it) just excites me to a million pieces I love it that much. Man, am I boring, hahaha But every word out of Gunter's mouth is extraordinarily brilliant "imho" because it's "hopefully" our and Earths future. I believe you'll love it too XIB.  vimeo.com/5280798 |
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Post by ibzahp on Apr 14, 2011 15:50:28 GMT -5
I am ever so thankful that Pickens wants to support research into Morgellons for whatever his motivations are. I suspect there's a profit motive and I am just really thankful that he wants to do this. I do have a little beef though about him taking water from the Great Lakes (as seen in a Jesse Ventura episode) and putting it in huge plastic bladders and selling it to China. In the episode Jesse shows his so called "retreat" and shows him sucking up massive amounts of USA water to sell as bottled water in China (and I apologize for veering off topic here)
It suggests to me combined with fracking that he needs to treat this country's resources in a manner more befitting to our people and our planet. I really don't mean to quibble. I just can't help but speak my mind.
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Post by ginna898 on Apr 15, 2011 16:32:54 GMT -5
Motivations could be plain "human nature" taking care of their own needs/wants by making friends in the political arena to gain control of anything that could get in their way of careless and deliberate destruction to our environment regardless of the fact that it continues to cause people to get ill --- all while others continue to get wealthy. Hmmmmmmmmmm, thinking to myself that with the "timing" of the CDC report, it is a possibility that he could have even been "clued in" from his political/government friends on how environmental issues & chemicals are making people break out in lesions to eliminate the contaminants from the human body. Time will tell the real truth after learning what kind of research information ever gets released and whether or not other researchers at different labs/universities are being given money to look at this problem so that more than one researcher's results can be compared with others for accuracy. THIS IS HOW IT WAS WHEN EVERYONE WAS IN PURSUIT OF LEARNING WHAT CAUSED AIDS and other diseases that the CDC studied in the past. Then also other facilities/universities from USA and Globally in other Nations will usually begin searching for those other "unknown" illnesses to be the one to find the cause now that the CDC has initially taken the lead. They are STILL studying CFS at more than one University. That is the course medical research generally takes with a new disease being complex with no definite cause or any TREATMENTS widely accepted and available to those of us who suffer. I do believe others will get involved with research since the CDC is now publishing on it. Now that the CDC's submitted a report for publishing, the reality is that is IS real at this point in time thanks to the CDC for doing the study and having a webpage for it. So it appears from following history and after the CDC report is published, I would expect more Universities and private labs to now also be interested in searching for the causative agent and looking for as much information as possible. Presently, research is STILL happening/continuing with CFS, AIDS and lots of other NEW Diseases simply because the CDC initiated an "official" study along with reporting and publishing as with the past new diseases. The CDC studying a disease sure does seem to encourage other Universities and private labs to also become interested in researching. In addition to the private labs and Universities, --- even the Pharmaceutical companies ought to be looking out to make a buck too as they usually do! ;DWe have more and more forums are opening up and the reality of Morgellons can no longer be so easily denied anymore. www.dailystrength.org/c/Morgellons-Disease/support-groupT. Boone Pickens Video www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLCeHSew8Fw&feature=player_embedded#at=32more conversation about T. Boone Pickens taking place at a different forum tinyurl.com/3kgk58awww.morgellons-disease-research.com/Morgellons-Message-Board/morgellons-disease-fiber-disease/7251-new-media-coverage-wymores-research-april-2011-a-5.html(note: there is more than one page of conversation on the link posted above, others are having some of the exact same thoughts and reservations about this topic.) Water is predicted to be Blue Gold for the future on Earth and Pickens is an oil billionaire along with others right on top of the "Blue Gold" by attempting to obtain the rights to the water in Texas and other States with Fracking. Pickens seems to be using his influence with politicians/lawmakers for his future $$$$$ with the forecast that BLUE GOLD's will be more valuable than oil in the near future. ibzahp, Your link with that video of the people and animals affected by fracking and the unknown chemicals used was heartbreaking. Those horses were losing their hair. How very sad humans give little regard to the animals that trust in us humans. (Gasland video from ibzaph's post) tinyurl.com/5vsdzf4 |
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Post by ginna898 on Apr 16, 2011 2:16:22 GMT -5
More information on Fracking. Mon, Feb 28 2011Oscar-nominated 'Gasland' director wants to debate T. Boone Pickens.He may not have won an Oscar, but the director of 'Gasland' isn’t backing off the natural gas industry. tinyurl.com/3emd93zPickens has been on a campaign of late to convince the American public that fracking is safe. On "The Daily Show with Jon Stewart," Pickens said he had never heard of a problem with fracking causing water contamination or any other issues. That’s a bold claim for a man who built his wealth in the oil and gas industries. Gasland Documentary: Dangers of Natural Gas Extraction (Extended Trailer) www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2Nc-kxWfmcA congressional hearing on the safety of hydraulic fracking revealed a few rifts on Capitol Hill.Wed, Apr 13 2011tinyurl.com/3asalfrThis week the Senate’s Environment and Public Works Committee held a subcommittee hearing on the safeness of hydraulic fracturing in the United States. Fracking, as it has become commonly known, is an increasingly prevalent process for producing natural gas. But the practice has drawn lots of attention of late — most of it negative. Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.) is serious about following the trajectory of the natural gas industry. “Few things in life are more important than clean water and few responsibilities of the federal government are more important than protecting clean water. We hear of contamination, but the EPA is powerless because of the Republican Congress and Dick Cheney’s loophole,” said Lautenberg. The so-called “Halliburton Loophole” that Lautenberg is referring to is part of the Energy Act of 2005, which exempts companies from disclosing specifics about the toxic chemicals they use to pump into the ground at high pressures to access natural gas supplies. Lautenberg went on to make the case why federal oversight is needed. After all, waterways and water supplies often do cross state boundaries. “The risk to families isn’t just for those who live near drill sites, but people in other states who drink water. Nothing is more important than the health of our children, and it is unacceptable to trade that for fuel.”
A second hearing, this time in the House of Representatives, has been postponed and no new date has been announced.NOT BUYING IT: Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.) was skeptical about fracking during a hearing this week.In February, the New York Times’ Ian Urbina began an investigative series about fracking that highlighted the possibility of radioactivity from fracking in Pennsylvania in streams and waterways. Around the same time, "Gasland," a documentary highlighting concerns about fracking, was nominated for an Academy Award. Since then, more reports have surfaced about fracking, highlighting concerns about everything ranging from water contamination to the possibility that the process is causing earthquakes in Arkansas. |
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Post by ginna898 on Apr 16, 2011 4:10:41 GMT -5
Hmmmmmmm, are hydrocarbons good for health? Hydrocarbons were identifed in fiber analysis: www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0D_Ki--fPIHydrocarbons are used for fracturing! Weatherford’s OilStim systems provide an alternative, nonwater-based fracturing fluid to use with a wide range of temperatures, providing excellent viscosity performance. The OilStim system effectively and rapidly gels most liquid hydrocarbons, including diesel fuel, crude oil, condensate, alcohols, aromatic and aliphatic solvents, and kerosene. In certain instances, a hydrocarbon-based fracturing fluid offers a more favorable alternative to the standard water-based fracturing fluids. These instances include: clay rich sandstone formations that are extremely sensitive to water; wells in geographic regions where quality water is difficult to obtain and/or oil is abundant; oil-wet reservoirs; and in extremely cold climates. Gelled hydrocarbons can carry high concentrations of proppants into the fracture with viscosity comparable to the best gelled-water systems. TAKE A LOOK at the amber color of "gelled hydrocarbons." tinyurl.com/3mbl4ot ---------------------------------------- snipped from an article: Natural gas is an important hydrocarbon to the US. Hopefully, fracking will continue, which will lessen our dependence on foreign oil – especially now with all the turmoil going on in the Middle East and Africa. Shale gas has become a big player in the US natural gas market. The US is importing less liquefied natural gas (LNG) due to the shale boom. If fact, the US now is exporting LNG, thanks to the fracking process. If the EPA finds major issues with fracking, I believe that hydraulic fracturing companies can and will find a way to overcome any potential EPA findings; and our motto is, “drill, baby drill.” www.hydrocarbonprocessing.com/Article/2778014/HPInformer/The-fracking-situation.html tinyurl.com/3wavgk2---------------------------------- The pressure causes the formation to crack, so that the fracturing fluid may enter and extend the crack more deeply into the formation. To keep the fracture open once the injection is complete, a solid proppant, commonly a sieved round sand, is added to the fracture fluid. The propped hydraulic fracture then becomes a high permeability conduit through which the formation fluids can flow to the well. Since the fluid contains various toxic materials, including hydrocarbons, benzene etc., there are environmental fears that these may leak out and contaminate e.g. aquifers from which drinking water is drawn. tinyurl.com/3rk8dgrAgain, I repeat that hydrocarbons were identified in morgellons research earlier. Could there be a connection? As the CDC did find jet fuel in the United States citizens. Anything is possible. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20456864J Hazard Mater. 2010 Jul 15;179(1-3):1128-35. Epub 2010 Apr 7. A novel total petroleum hydrocarbon fractionation strategy for human health risk assessment for petroleum hydrocarbon-contaminated site management. |
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Post by ginna898 on Apr 16, 2011 4:27:31 GMT -5
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