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Post by skizit on Dec 24, 2011 15:40:23 GMT -5
David, Here is a link to some great information. I'm putting it here because we discussed tea tree oil. The Dr. says you can take tea tree oil internally but specific information is not here. I put the link about tea tree oil killing demodex above on this thread. Also taking yogurt and probiotics in yogurt may help your stomach. www.medicalinsider.com/bacterial.html#oilsHere's the link to the bigger article which has info on B. subtilis also. www.medicalinsider.com/bacterial.html#subtilisYou also might try eating some mustard on something. Another person i trying cod liver oil. It won't hurt your stomach or intestines and cleans you out quite nicely.
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Post by toni on Dec 24, 2011 16:07:56 GMT -5
I'm sure don't mean to contradict that doctor, but... I've always heard and read tea tree oil internally is dangerous and can be lethal. They put it in toothpastes "only because it's not going to be swallowed".
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Post by davidbourke on Dec 24, 2011 16:55:27 GMT -5
toni - many thanks for the tips on milk. In Ireland, people say it puts a coating on the stomach wall that soothes and protects it. I've got a fresh two-litre container in the refrigerator which I'm going to partake of in a few moments. I also have one of my yoghurt drinks open beside me right now. Ten minutes ago I took two heaped tablespoons of diatomaceous earth in half a pint of water, waited five minutes, then tried a sip of borax water. And it didn't make me nauseous or hurt. So far anyway... I'm also taking acidopholus capsules - one a day. I'll increase that to three tomorrow. I did indeed see your post on dry mustard and found it very exciting news. But I was too sick to do anything about it at the time. I don't have any in the house now though, and in Ireland everything closes down for Christmas. So the shops won't be open again till next Tuesday. Later tonight before bed I'm going to try mixing ACV with diluted borax and a tablespoon of 3% hydrogen peroxide sprayed all over and allowed to air-dry. It's all I can do right now. Thankfully, tickle numbers don't yet seem to be excessively elevated yet. We shall see... skizit - Many thanks for the links which I'm going to follow up right now. Unfortunately, Irish health shops classify 100% tea tree oil as a hazardous material and won't stock it. All you can get here is 15% tea tree lotion. I've already tried this alongside neem oil diluted with almond oil and it didn't work. And actually, I've since found out that demodex mites will thrive in oil-based materials. I used to coat my entire body in neem/almond oil every night for three months before getting into bed and been woken every night by hundred of the little villains crawling everywhere on me to feed on the oil. They get most of what they need sustenance-wise from human sebacous oil. The protein they require they get by eating sebaceous gland tissue. The big problem with demodex is that topical substances can't get down into the follicles and sebaceous glands to reach them. And this is why I decided on the internal route - to poison their food. And if you've read my day-by-day account, you'll see that this was working really well. Only I've now managed to destroy that option with my stupidity. Other things I've been advised to try include a UV light wand, bathing in chlorine oxide (bleach) for half an hour (but I don't have a bathtub, just a shower), MMS (don't know what that is), Sea Buckthorn Oil (doesn't work for most but does for some), and a zapper. For sleep, I've been taking magnesium supplement once a day for the past four days. Last night, I woke up as usual after four hours, took 10mg of Valium, and for the first time ever, fell back into a proper sleep rather than just a light doze. Got nine hours altogether - a record for me. One interesting thing: I used to be a prolific dreamer and even got many of my ideas for short stories from my dreams. Since this whole insect infestation thing started two and half years ago, I haven't had a single dream. So I'm obviously getting no REM sleep at all. Well, thanks a million again to both of you for your kindness and assistance. I'll try to come here more often and let you know how I get on. Happy holidays! And now for a big drink of milk... EDIT FOR skizit: I checked out your links and the site seems to concentrate on parasites of the GI tract, organs, and bloodstream. I can find no mention of ectoparasites like demodex. Also, just tried drinking 100gm of milk, waited a few minutes, then tried a sip of borax water. It does seem to quell the nausea and pain a little.
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Post by skizit on Dec 25, 2011 18:51:36 GMT -5
Guys and Gals, I'm putting this on here because we talked about "fully active monomers". The monomers, if they are in the bacterial cellulose fibers as organic/inorganic materials, this article may have them listed here in this but I'm not sure. I was taking a stab at finding at the search term "structure of fluorescent monomers" in www.polysciences.com/SiteData/docs/70111w/44d844610822cbaf65325f19b50bd492/70111w.pdfFluorescent Monomers 3, 8 dimethyl acryloyl ethidium bromide 23590 439nm / 512nm Methacryloxyethyl thiocarbamoyl rhodamine B 23591 548nm / 570nm 9-anthracenyl methyl methacrylate 23587 362nm / 407nm Fluorescein dimethacrylate 23589 470nm / 511nm Fluorescein isothiocyanate (FITC) 00373 488nm / 520nm O-methacryloyl Hoechst 33258 23592 355nm / 497nm 2-Napthyl acrylate 06024 –– 2-Napthyl methacrylate 23602 285nm / 345nm 1-Pyrenyl methyl methacrylate 23588 339nm / 394nm
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Post by skizit on Dec 25, 2011 19:18:22 GMT -5
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Post by skizit on Dec 25, 2011 19:30:11 GMT -5
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Post by homeworld on Dec 26, 2011 13:19:47 GMT -5
someone "mite" want to see a Demodex in full boogy mode... I've only observed Demodex mites one time in over two years of observing my skin with 'scopes. Found 3 in one sample.. this one was the most...photogenic. www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5ZZz8SMPwQ[...the "missing eyelashes" mentioned in the video never grew back]
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Post by toni on Dec 27, 2011 10:43:29 GMT -5
Homeworld,
What an incredibly great viewing of this mite you've captured on video, this is absolutely unreal!
Thank you for sharing this.
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Post by simone on Dec 27, 2011 18:15:30 GMT -5
That's a pretty good video...homeworld. Wondering if you or toni have lots of lesions... with these demotex mites. I only have fibers coming out... Right now I have no lesions. Summer time is when they pop out (only a few). Maybe it's good to stay in cold climates. JK
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Post by homeworld on Dec 27, 2011 19:22:42 GMT -5
..in 2 and a half years of looking at skin thru a microscope have only seen demodex mites once..saw 3...9 months ago. Haven't seen one since. Small lesions pretty much everywhere and the occasional GODZILLA lesion. Fibers everywhere. ..but..no mites. No demodex..no sarcoptes...[scabies]. just..fibers...everywhere.
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Post by toni on Dec 28, 2011 10:48:38 GMT -5
That's a pretty good video...homeworld. Wondering if you or toni have lots of lesions... with these demotex mites. I only have fibers coming out... Right now I have no lesions. Summer time is when they pop out (only a few). Maybe it's good to stay in cold climates. JK Hi Simone, I don't have fibers, but now and then one might be in a sore, and since using the *mustard mix* I'm not able to find any more demodex - and I'm sure looking hard too but ....it's really looking like I'm ridding them something serious too. GONZO to Demodex. Don't know what they left behind as in *(fungi or bacteria)* as they can do that, vector pathogens that can (as I read) enter the blood stream. Only in 06 did I have loads of lesions, now they just pop up randomly one here, one there....but I still get them so I'm not totally lesion free yet. I've not had the "crawlies under the skin sensations since using the mustard mix wash either", which is really a nice change - it's wonderful is more like it ;D
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Post by Lynn on Dec 28, 2011 15:37:17 GMT -5
Hey Toni
I still am so glad I went for your mustard mix. How long did it take before the bugs quit attacking? I am almost a month in, but I am a very heavy set lady so that might slow things down. My husband wants me to try a strong mustard mixture on the sheets so I can have more bug free nights. We will see. This pay day I am going to buy a large amount of dry mustard instead of the little Coleman tin can ones.
Oh almost forgot. I changed my laundry to just the Bio-Kleen premium plus powder with a softener ball full of Vinegar. Instead of adding the TKO and the Dr. Bronners peppermint soap. Wow my colors are brighter and the clothes are absolutely bug free 100 percent till the ones in the furniture and floor get to me. Also it did not make any difference in the specks coming out of the clothes.
It was suggested to me that my laundry was not getting all the soap out. I think the wash machine a new but cheap side loader belongs to my kids does not get everything out even though I always use the heavy soil button with the extra rise. With Hot wash and cold rinse cycle. So when I switched to the Vinegar in the soft ball instead of peppermint soap I thought no more specks right. Well my clothes are either going through cycles like I am or its the type of clothes. Polyester does not get much in specks after a mustard mix spray. My flannel p.J.s do not speck up, but my cotton/nylon/polyester mix does. I am going to have to chart which clothes speck up and if they go through none specking periods just to see what it is.
More later. In Light Lynn/TorpedoLynn
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Post by toni on Dec 29, 2011 11:16:23 GMT -5
Hi Lynn,
I'm still getting one or two little red like pimple bumps but it's very very rare so far, and my one lesion that I had for 4ish years, the one with the tunnel, is now not having any activity nor "production" of those white things.
I'm adding the "mustard juice" which is dry mustard mixed with water, and I take and use less than one drop of it, and apply it (mixed with a CoQ-10 face lotion)
Correction: it's not CoQ-10 face lotion as I'd said, sorry got that mixed up with my many supplements I take. The lotion I'm mixing with the "dry mustard" is called Swanson's Brand Pycnogenol cream.
and I dab that onto the spot and that's made such an improvement.
It's the mustard (imho) mixed with anything that will allow the mustard to do it's job - as long as it doesn't dry out. Whatever we mix it with, needs to say hydrated for the mustard powder to be active. Once it dries, it's impotent.
I'm eating it more (just for the internal benefits) and using it just like you are, topically in shampoo's, body lotion, face lotion, hair conditioner, anything I add it to, then apply it.
Daily showering is "with the mustard and water" mixed into anything I use now on my skin.
It's been over a month or a bit more I think (of doing and using this daily).
I don't believe I'm going to stop using "dry mustard" because Demodex mites for instance can keep coming back, so they may try, but...they'll have a hard time I hope liking the home I'm giving them ;D
I started out changing our pillow cases daily awhile back -(which I have several on each pillow) because inside a pillow, well... who knows what lies within them - we could use our imagination on that and probably be right, but, anyways - then I went to every other day of changing pillow cases, (major pain in the rear that is too) - but more recently, I've gone to just once a week, but....I'm thinking once a week really isn't enough for "pillow cases" because our faces and hair are all over those, and "imho", if we have Demodex, not that they can't be in the body skin too, but...the face has more potential (maybe) so imho, if you can change the pillow cases really often per week, that might help greatly too.
I remember someone several years ago mentioning taking a steam iron and using that. I don't know if this would help you Lynn, instead of spraying the mustard mix on your sheets, but....just a thought.
They sell "those steam hand held devices" to unwrinkle clothes while they hang, and with clothing or sheets, nothing living can withstand the heat of steam. I wonder if using that on your sheets and pillow cases might help, because that would kill anything for sure in the fabric.
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Post by Lynn on Dec 29, 2011 13:11:17 GMT -5
Hi Toni
Thanks for the info. Could you give me a link to your lotion? I do not like the mixture I came up with but also talked with my BF and am going to try making a different mixture with olive oil. I buy a parasite fungal salve from herbal healer and it works really well and was thinking of making a lotion out of that without the bees wax. I could add a little melted mustard and a cap taken apart of my CQ-10 with Hawthorn. Would love a lotion something also I could dummy down a little and put on the grand kids without harm to them. I really think the little guy may have a lower form of this. He gets the little sores in spots where he itches and you can see they are sores and not from his scratching. He itches in all the same hot spot share I feel worm activity.
I sprayed the bed with a strong mustard mixture this morning and I feel like all it did was make the sheets wet. And of course like you said as soon as it dries it will be inactive. Hubby wants to kill what accumulates in bed, but I kept telling him that would not deter them from finding me. The Wintergreen Alcohol keeps things a bit dryer and not only kills the bugs, but also deters them a bit. We are getting sick of the fumes which can not be healthy for our lungs. I had such a bad night Tuesday night that I washed all the bedding and sprayed the mattress and still had a small amount of worms get me, but they were weak. As if crawling through the sheets weakened them. This was the first time to use the Vinegar as a softener in the sheets along with my Bio-Kleen premium powder and it really has made a cheap and effective way, but now to make it more efficient. I think I do need to find a way to wash bedding more often. It is hard to find something cheap or not so taxing physically.
So how long did it take to get them to stop attacking you? Also do you feel your yogurt treatment has to be a part of that to get to where you are? While I am picking brains here. Is your diet low in meat high in oils the good oils omegas and stuff?
I was just listening to a link on Mercola about loosing weight by balancing the Omegas. Also I know it helps with us Morgies. I know there was more I wanted to say but have gone blank for now. I will probably ask you a zillion more questions. lol.
In Light Lynn/TorpedoLynn
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Post by davidbourke on Dec 29, 2011 17:55:50 GMT -5
toni: I've searched this thread for your mustard recipe and I can't find it. The Search function also failed to find it. Is there any chance you could post a link to it? Glad to read you're doing well. Thanks a lot. Kind regards. David Bourke
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Post by toni on Dec 29, 2011 18:13:31 GMT -5
Hi Toni Thanks for the info. Could you give me a link to your lotion? I do not like the mixture I came up with but also talked with my BF and am going to try making a different mixture with olive oil. I buy a parasite fungal salve from herbal healer and it works really well and was thinking of making a lotion out of that without the bees wax. I could add a little melted mustard and a cap taken apart of my CQ-10 with Hawthorn. Would love a lotion something also I could dummy down a little and put on the grand kids without harm to them. I really think the little guy may have a lower form of this. He gets the little sores in spots where he itches and you can see they are sores and not from his scratching. He itches in all the same hot spot share I feel worm activity. I sprayed the bed with a strong mustard mixture this morning and I feel like all it did was make the sheets wet. And of course like you said as soon as it dries it will be inactive. Hubby wants to kill what accumulates in bed, but I kept telling him that would not deter them from finding me. The Wintergreen Alcohol keeps things a bit dryer and not only kills the bugs, but also deters them a bit. We are getting sick of the fumes which can not be healthy for our lungs. I had such a bad night Tuesday night that I washed all the bedding and sprayed the mattress and still had a small amount of worms get me, but they were weak. As if crawling through the sheets weakened them. This was the first time to use the Vinegar as a softener in the sheets along with my Bio-Kleen premium powder and it really has made a cheap and effective way, but now to make it more efficient. I think I do need to find a way to wash bedding more often. It is hard to find something cheap or not so taxing physically. So how long did it take to get them to stop attacking you? Also do you feel your yogurt treatment has to be a part of that to get to where you are? While I am picking brains here. Is your diet low in meat high in oils the good oils omegas and stuff? I was just listening to a link on Mercola about loosing weight by balancing the Omegas. Also I know it helps with us Morgies. I know there was more I wanted to say but have gone blank for now. I will probably ask you a zillion more questions. lol. In Light Lynn/TorpedoLynn Hi Lynn, First I need to make a correction, it's not CoQ-10 cream... geeze, I take that stuff internally. The cream is Pycnogenol cream from Swansons. Not that I know "if it's because of this lotion"...I don't think so as what I do think is: I believe (from what I'm seeing in my lesion clearing) that it's the combination, (just luck) on my part, that that Pycnogenol lotion, mixed with the dry mustard happens to be a "good combination"....and what I mean by that is, the delivery of the "mustard is not inhibited" by this particular lotion. That's what we want, when using the mustard, something that doesn't "encapsulate" the mustard particles - because then it can't work. We want the mustard (not dry) on our skin or scalp because it can't be activated dry, so a hydrant like lotions or certain oils can "help disperse" the mustard and keep it moist. The Swansons Pycnogenol "just by sheer luck in trying it", keeps the mustard "moist" while on the skin. But...one doesn't need to use that Pycnogenol, as there's got to be other ingredients that would work well with dry mustard too, like possibly "glycerine", that might help keep it from drying out, once it's put on the skin too. I use that Pycnogenol cream often also on my face, so I thought, hummmm why don't I mix and (try) some mustard with a tid bit of that lotion and see how that works. And, so far, I'm really happy about my lesion tunnel that nothing I'd ever tried worked so well before. The yog/milk mix 'is great too'....but it was only keeping things "status quo" - not getting worse, but not banishing anything, and not "getting rid of or killing anything off". I believe I AM killing stuff off now as I'm not feeling the squirming sensations in my face where that "lesion tunnel is" nor is anything coming out of it. So those are fantastic signs, no debris, and no tickling/squirming sensations. That "hole" use to get filled up daily to where I had to pick the debris stuff out. Now...there's nothing to pick out. So, in 4-5 years that I've had to do "all that picking to remove all kinds of stuff" out of that lesion.... now there's not anything to remove, which is like some serious progress to me. Lynn, here's the link to the Swanson's brand Pycnogenol cream. www.swansonvitamins.com/SWCS011/ItemDetail?SourceCode=INTL401And you asked too, if I eat lots of meat and take Omega's. Everyday, I eat meat with just about all meals that consist of several veggies and salads, and I drink juice all the time mixed with Schwepps carbonated water, and I eat sugar and probably shouldn't, but...I love my Christmas cookies and goodies ;D...actually I don't eat lots of sweet stuff, but I do eat it when I feel like it. And yes, I take an Omega's 3-6-9 all in one soft gel everyday too. It's called The Total EFA with fish oil, flax and borage oil in it. I buy it through Swansons Vitamins also because they've got "all brands" that are in health food stores, but they're less expensive because they're not independently owned.
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Post by toni on Dec 30, 2011 11:37:57 GMT -5
toni: I've searched this thread for your mustard recipe and I can't find it. The Search function also failed to find it. Is there any chance you could post a link to it? Glad to read you're doing well. Thanks a lot. Kind regards. David Bourke Thank you David. Also you'd asked about the "recipe" with the dry mustard. Actually, there really isn't one, it's sort of a "wing it thing". Dry ground powdered mustard comes in a small little spice can, in the spices section of all grocery stores. Take approx 1 tsp or even 1 tablespoon of the dry mustard, and mix that with equal or less amount of water, just as to blend it, so it doesn't get clumpy. Then add that "mixture" of the water mixed with the dry mustard to anything like "body lotion or shampoo, or hair conditioner. I will say this though, if you've ever used peppermint oil, you'll know how only a tiny bit (few drops) goes a long way, as it burns if too much is used. Well, dry mustard is the same. If you were to add 2 tablespoons to an amount of shampoo you'd use to wash your hair once, that will probably sting and burn your scalp, as it can be felt heating up. I like to take about 1 heaping tsp and mix that with a about 1 oz of hair conditioner, and leave that on my head for a couple of hours, or until it starts to dry, then I wash it out. If the mustard dries while it's on your skin or scalp, it's not activated. So finding products *if you want to leave* it on for a while (a few hours) then you need to mix it with something that will keep the dry mustard hydrated. Use always an "empty bottle" to mix this in, as you don't want to muck up your entire bottle of shampoo. That way you'll have a fresh application each time you shower. Just put in the dry mustard into the empty bottle, add a touch of water, shake that up, just enough water to mix the mustard up, then add a some of your shampoo or body wash soap, and then shake that up. Now you have a "wash" for that showering. And just washing your hair with the mustard mixed with some shampoo in a separate bottle, you'll see, your hair will be totally silky and soft, and your skin after washing with the mustard mixed with shampoo or body wash too will feel like it's cleaner than it's ever been. It's really wonderful. Now...to make a paste to apply singly on a lesion: just be careful with the mustard, because it burns, and it will burn the skin too. The first time I mixed the dry mustard with water, then added that to something else (lotion or yogurt) then I applied that all over my face and OWIE, that burned like acid, and my face had burn abrasions all over it. I used too much mustard mixed with other things, and I didn't need that much since I wanted to leave it on. That's what I mean, a little goes a long ways of the mustard. And it cleans pores and kills "bacteria, fungi, mites".... but, nothing can be successful with just one application, so this needs to become a daily routine, just simply adding dry mustard to your showering products, like shampoo, and you'll notice a great difference in time, actually after the first washing, but to kill off "things" you must do this each time you shower.
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Post by Lynn on Dec 30, 2011 12:24:45 GMT -5
Hi Toni
I buy from Swanson's all the time so next pay day I will buy that cream. I was checking out the ingredients to see if anything on the list was something I had trouble with in the past or if it was something too chemical to scare me away. I found some very interesting things about the ingredients.
Tocopheryl Acetate (E) Tocopherol acetate is not oxidized and can penetrate through the skin to the living cells, where about 5% is converted to free tocopherol and provides beneficial antioxidant effects.[1]
Tocopheryl acetate is used as an alternative to tocopherol itself because the phenolic hydroxyl group is blocked, providing a less acidic product with a longer shelf life. It is believed that the acetate is slowly hydrolyzed once it is absorbed into the skin, regenerating tocopherol and providing protection against the sun's ultraviolet rays.
Ergocalciferol Ergocalciferol is a form of vitamin D, also called vitamin D2. It is marketed under various names including Deltalin (Eli Lilly and Company), Drisdol (Sanofi-Synthelabo) and Calcidol (Patrin Pharma). It is created from viosterol, which in turn is created when ultraviolet light activates ergosterol (which is found in fungi and named as a sterol from ergot) and so comes only from plants.
Phenoxyethanol is an organic chemical compound, a glycol ether often used in dermatological products such as skin creams and sunscreen. It is a colorless oily liquid. It is a bactericide (usually used in conjunction with quaternary ammonium compounds), often used in place of sodium azide in biological buffers as 2-phenoxyethanol is less toxic and non-reactive with copper and lead. It is used in many applications such as cosmetics, vaccines, and pharmaceuticals as a preservative.
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Post by Lynn on Dec 30, 2011 12:58:27 GMT -5
Hi Toni
I am forever grateful for your mustard ideas. Did you know that in olden times when they used Mustard as a police on the chest during flue type and lung type illness. They believed that the mustard will pull the disease right out of the body. So there really is something big to be said about this mustard. I wonder if we should get some sort of cloth and make a mustard police for hot spots. I am going to start eating the dry mustard like you do. I just discovered this morning that the little crystal like pieces I get off the skin. Tiny beige colored crystals that would be full of tiny specks and colored fibers. Mostly clear ones, but with black, blue, red and green. Well I just pulled one off the body and only one speck and one black fiber. If there was any others they were too small to see through the scope at 100x. So I am excited to continue further with the mustard and see what happens. If I could kill half of what left of the disease and be at least parasite free. The rest of the illness would be easy to deal with while trying to get well.
I believe I am going to start using my Vita mixer and at breakfast only do blueberries, and pears with different fruits in tiny amounts as a taste breaker. I think I will add organic black strap molasses to that. Then make my lunch time a yogurt session and start buying the decaf non-acidic coffee from Trader Joe's. I think I might do a veggie smoothy for snack on days where I am capable of doing extra. I learned that for fruits to do their jobs they have to be take in alone and not mixed with other food types period what so ever. So see if that changes the tune for me. The holidays and my coffee binging this past three months have take me 3 clicks into the wrong direction. So I have lost ground and want it back. Okay plan of attack decided.
Oh as soon as I can squeeze it in I am going to buy Sea Salt or Himalaya salt in more natural form. I am suspicious that my sea salt from the bulk bins is not natural. Too white in color.
Happy New Year. TorpedoLynn
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Post by davidbourke on Dec 30, 2011 13:17:50 GMT -5
Hi toni,
You're an absolute angel!
I've been going through this thread with a fine-tooth comb, copying and pasting every mention of the word "mustard" to see if I could deduce it myself from the fragmentary clues. I found a recipe from skizit which I missed the first time around (thanks, skizit). And now, finally, I have the secret killer recipe straight from its inventor.
I can't thank you enough.
Today, for the first time, I am able to ingest the borax water with just mild stomach discomfort. Up to now, I've been applying a 1% topical solution of hydrogen peroxide saturated with borax.
I'm supposed to do this several times a day but I just can't manage. It takes me two hours to do my entire body because of my spine and pain problems, and another two hours to shave my head and face. I've had to leave it at just once a day before bedtime. Which is not enough because I'm still getting tickles. Maybe now that I'm drinking it again, I'll have better results...
I wanted your mustard recipe because the 100% immediate kill factor appeals to my nature greatly. And I also had an idea I wanted to try: putting dry mustard into the borax/hydrogen peroxide mix. The great thing about hydrogen peroxide is that it binds with the borax and carries it into your skin.
Castor oil is another unusual substance in that it penetrates the outer skin layer easily due to its low molecular weight. It also has ricin in its chemical make-up, a poison which may (or may not) affect demodex mites.
So perhaps adding the mustard mix to it might also work?
But I'm not sure having raw mustard embedded in follicles and sebaceous glands is a great idea.
So I'll try your way first and see how I get on. A month seems an awfully long time. Never mind. Head down and get to work, Dave.
Thanks again, toni, particularly for being so detailed. Everywhere I go on the internet, I find recipes by people who omit ingredient proportions, treatment frequencies, and durations - all pretty important stuff. Your post is a refreshing change.
Kindest regards.
David Bourke
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