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Post by Baraka Obam on May 27, 2012 18:16:38 GMT -5
First matter of importance lets thank SAGE for the pictures, it is she that sent me a working digital microscope as mine was wasted. Thank you SAGE!!!! This parasite thing has been found by more than one inside the body, who can tell us what it is. It seems to also that it is infected as the many different annomolies grow from its insides. ] I at one time disagreed with another on it being a parasite but now you can see it clearly. Many of the atributes were also given to human flesh this is why I did not believe it was a parasite. I saw pictures and they were similar to things I had seen, but NOW they have been cultivated actually from vomit, they are perfectly the same. Here is how it played out, by accident really. May 12th I got up in the morning sick as a dog, still I had to bring samples to the VA hospital at 3:30 in the morning as I had to be to the airport by 5:00. I went to the hospital with samples and dropped them off. all the time feeling worse, when I got home I threw up everything I had eaten in the toilet, still sick I put the toilet top down and sat. When I felt better I went in and layed down as my ride was coming, he soon got to my house and I had to leave. The stomach contents stayed in that toilet untill today when I got back home and went to use it. HOLY perfect bio central. OMG, of course there was some sort of green growth in that toilet, but then also there was the specks of brown somthing that had made it up the sides of the toilet and some made it out. I slapped some of all of this stuff on slides, forgoing the call of nature, the things that SCABDRAGGER was harping about, they were there, all in perfect condition, +they seem to be a sort of slug, they are all not similar, THEY ARE THE SAME. I can not say I am sorry to Scabdradder as we had seen pretty much the same thing, NOW out of rotting stomach contents came hundreds. This may or may not be related to our awful condition, still getting rid of a freeloading parasite could not hurt. I also have some of the other slime in that toilet still to be veiwed. If you wish to see more of them you can at this url www.morgellons-disease-research.com/Morgellons-Message-Board/morgellons-syndrome/8278-scabdraggers-bug.htmlIt seems either this parasite also has the issue or it is the carrier from what I see coming out of its body, or growing on it. Attachments:
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Post by lostintime on May 28, 2012 0:28:33 GMT -5
Hi Baraka, Long time bro, I have been saying this for two years. There is a parasite thing going on but seams there is more to it then that. Can’t quite figure it out myself but it sure ain’t imagination. Haven’t talked in over a year. I’ll have to find a way to give you the new number. Be well my friend, I’m in this mess too ya know.
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Post by Baraka Obam on May 28, 2012 22:10:22 GMT -5
Just send me a PM with your number, I will call you as soon as I get it.
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Post by sage on May 29, 2012 22:04:57 GMT -5
Well Thanks for the Pix. These parasites do resemble some of the thripes (without the wings) If you hadn't expressed having SEEN them before, I would be suspicious of where you may have dined on the evening prior! If you consumed some contaminated food, (we never really know, do we?) And then that contaminated regurgitant rested there for 15 days in a presumably warm place, hmmm! But, even too many martinis alone can not cause that situation. Did you then present the VA Lab with a sample of the critters ? I would. And if you believe someone is not cooperating...Make an appointment with the Patient's Advocate. There are ways to get what you want without being the Bad-Guy. No kicking up your heels! Strange that some bright-light has not come up with an I.D> for these creatures.I hope someone will. sage
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Post by Baraka Obam on May 29, 2012 23:53:01 GMT -5
Look m uch closer SAGE, they have NO legs, they have NO SEGMENTS.
I do not now about you but I am paticular about what bugs I let into my vomit.
This item I have seen before in the body material, also the anomolies that come with it. THEY are NOT new, these anomolies are in the human material as well as the parasite.
Now that you know, you do not have to worry about eating them, you have to worry about them eating you, LOL.
All joking aside, these are in my body, I have seen them and scabdragger from MDR had a clear picture of this from inside his body, it is not a fluke, get it fluke.
ANYWAY, gather your investigative resourses and find out what it is, my time is lets say LIMITED.
Oh, if it was not for sage these pictures would not be yours now.
They are a gift from SAGE.
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Post by toni on May 30, 2012 7:33:14 GMT -5
Hi Baraka,
Can you give a size comparison of these to something else? They might be *spores* - not any kind of critter.
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Post by Baraka Obam on May 30, 2012 9:12:05 GMT -5
THESE ARE NOT SPORES, LOL, please they are easy to see all the same perfect, hog nose, antennaed, legless, no segmented parasite bugs that both me and scabdragger from MDR have seen while looking at human material with the microscope.
When I saw scabdraggers picture I was actually surprized at how clearly it looked like a bug, then you know how things grow out any of or fluids or matter.
I was not convinced at all untill these things showed up in mass, they are all the exact same not one of these has been shown twice, they are all different. Without legs these were able to climb the toilet inside, most died before getting to the top, so, apparently they are not made to live out of the victim for long.
I was not here to watch, I was on a plane headed for parts unknown for 14 days.
I do not know how long it took for them to grow to the size of fleas. They are parasite, bugs and have been found in TWO people with morgellons with microscopes.
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Post by Ayla on May 30, 2012 10:29:42 GMT -5
According to my nutritionist, all clients being tested at Fry labs are testing positive for the previously unknown protozoa. As well, 65% of patients with Morgellons test positive for "non-human parasite, taxonomy unknown" at Metametrix (DNA stool test). There is definitely a parasitic component to Morgellons, but it is more than that. Metametrix is finding an unknown fungus as well as bacterial, yeast, overloads. One Naturopath who has been seeing a lot of "Morgellons" says it's parasites, heavy metals and food allergies. My feeling is that it is all this and more. The article posted by Mr. CommonSense really summed it up for me. thehealthcoach1.com/?p=404If the body is ripe for invasion, one opportunistic parasite on top of another will jump on board. Addressing the terrain seems to be the one thing that we can do bring it back to some semblance of balance. Not a cure obviously, but we have to figure out a way to live with whatever this is and try and keep it in check while making sure that while we are attacking it, we are not throwing another part of our system out of balance.
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Post by toni on May 30, 2012 11:11:10 GMT -5
THESE ARE NOT SPORES, LOL, please they are easy to see all the same perfect, hog nose, antennaed, legless, no segmented parasite bugs that both me and scabdragger from MDR have seen while looking at human material with the microscope. When I saw scabdraggers picture I was actually surprized at how clearly it looked like a bug, then you know how things grow out any of or fluids or matter. I was not convinced at all untill these things showed up in mass, they are all the exact same not one of these has been shown twice, they are all different. Without legs these were able to climb the toilet inside, most died before getting to the top, so, apparently they are not made to live out of the victim for long. I was not here to watch, I was on a plane headed for parts unknown for 14 days. I do not know how long it took for them to grow to the size of fleas. They are parasite, bugs and have been found in TWO people with morgellons with microscopes. Well Baraka, If you'd like me to try to HELP you ID these I will, IF you'll be kind enough to not laugh at the * unknown* UNTIL we get these ID'd. I HAVE SEEN SPORES just like this okay? I just don't remember the name of them since over the last 6-7 years I've looked at gazillions. So just simply bear with me and I "might be able to help if you can be patient". Just wanted to show you a fly pupae and NOT that I think this is it, but as to show you the similarities, but IMHO these "pupae" are NOT what your specimens are.
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Post by Baraka Obam on May 30, 2012 18:32:38 GMT -5
I want you to help, so far that's the closest of anything I have seen.
You excited me, LOL, seems I have come a long way, I am now excited by bugs,.................. what a long strange trip its been!!!
I am sorry if I get a little protective of the bug but kinda the doctors put me in that mood, you know what I mean.
Like that is not a lesion you dug that there, LOL.
SO, let me just say, Toni thank you.
If you can find that bug exactly I will take you to dinner at the best steak house in town, my town that is, unless of course I get in your neck of the woods.
One last thing look on the bugs back it has a fiber if you look at the other items on MDR you will see the stuff growing on these things.
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Post by toni on May 31, 2012 7:46:12 GMT -5
I want you to help, so far that's the closest of anything I have seen. You excited me, LOL, seems I have come a long way, I am now excited by bugs,.................. what a long strange trip its been!!! I am sorry if I get a little protective of the bug but kinda the doctors put me in that mood, you know what I mean. Like that is not a lesion you dug that there, LOL. SO, let me just say, Toni thank you. If you can find that bug exactly I will take you to dinner at the best steak house in town, my town that is, unless of course I get in your neck of the woods. One last thing look on the bugs back it has a fiber if you look at the other items on MDR you will see the stuff growing on these things. I'm happy to help Believe me, I think I'm as curious as you are too Baraka. And that steak dinner sounds great ;D Also, I sure did see all the pictures you posted at MDR - put them in my pictures and was able to lighten them up so I could really get a good visual as to the details. I'm glad you took several different picture angles of that specimen too, good job Baraka.
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Post by Baraka Obam on May 31, 2012 18:45:34 GMT -5
I do not think I took double pictures of any of them so they are all different, UNLESS I picked up the wrong slide once.
There had to be about 100 to 150 of these things in the toilet.
Thank you Toni
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Post by ppy18 on May 31, 2012 19:10:43 GMT -5
i see a lot of these or something very similar about once a month in my stools. very loose watery stools with tons of these things floating on top of the water
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Post by toni on May 31, 2012 20:20:53 GMT -5
I do not think I took double pictures of any of them so they are all different, UNLESS I picked up the wrong slide once. There had to be about 100 to 150 of these things in the toilet. Thank you Toni And thank you Baraka. You know what, I know what you mean. You sure did take several pictures of "several different specimens". I knew they weren't all the same one. I didn't say what I meant correctly. Sorry about that.
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Post by toni on May 31, 2012 20:24:05 GMT -5
i see a lot of these or something very similar about once a month in my stools. very loose watery stools with tons of these things floating on top of the water And "hi" Kelly. You having the same thing sure makes this "imho" important, because two or more people can't have the exact same thing UNLESS there's significance to it...and there sure seems to be. At first I'd thought (maybe when Baraka) vomited in the toilet, that IF there was a mold or fungal aspect to it, that the "vomit" sorry to sound gross, but, that the vomit was harboring fungi....and as time went on, that fungi produced "babies", as it does naturally. Then after it sat for days on end, "some basidia" that hold the spores - "literally" shot out the spores, like an explosion, and that seemed like a likely explanation to me of how the "specimens" were all over the inside and walls of the toilet bowl, since they "exploded" as a few fungi will do to propagate (spread it's seeds/spores). That would explain how the specimens were at different heights inside the bowl. Like shooting off a bomb, the specks blow outwards. Tomorrow I'll post some fungi that do that. But, Kelly if they're "already' there, then that puts a new twist on my thoughts about this. I guess you don't have pics? Not an easy task to retrieve some to be sure.
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Post by Baraka Obam on May 31, 2012 23:13:53 GMT -5
I would like to get scabdragger to get me his picture that I saw in his body fluids, then you will really know this is an item of importance.
I did question the shape and form of it as really he only had one CLEAR picture of it.
I had seen quite a bit of parts of this pest in my fluids but thought it was just a formation of the material that was common.
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Post by toni on Jun 1, 2012 7:25:54 GMT -5
I would like to get scabdragger to get me his picture that I saw in his body fluids, then you will really know this is an item of importance. I did question the shape and form of it as really he only had one CLEAR picture of it. I had seen quite a bit of parts of this pest in my fluids but thought it was just a formation of the material that was common. That would be great too Baraka if you could ask him for his picture of his specimen. Thanks.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Jun 1, 2012 14:02:18 GMT -5
I did ask him to post the pictures, I have a funny feeling he imagines himself as a big time scientist for money or something other just as strange.
His pictures do lend credence to the issue at hand, this bug may be associated with some of our issues, or maybe just a common parasitic infection.
Then it could be nothing at all, still there it is and it does raise a question or two, like what is it, where does it come from and once we find out what it is we can find out if it is related to any kind of disease. YEAH!!
I do assure you, these are the same as the ones he had inside the body fluids, they are not similar, they are the same.
I am going to try a little bit of cultivation I know it can be done, only I will use just a little bit more control over the results.
I will not use a toilet to get further results, LOL.
Maybe I can incubate a live adult. OOOOOOOO AAAAAAAAAA!!!
In fact I have already started an attempted experiment and there will be several different types to follow.
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Post by toni on Jun 2, 2012 10:29:48 GMT -5
I did ask him to post the pictures, I have a funny feeling he imagines himself as a big time scientist for money or something other just as strange. His pictures do lend credence to the issue at hand, this bug may be associated with some of our issues, or maybe just a common parasitic infection. Then it could be nothing at all, still there it is and it does raise a question or two, like what is it, where does it come from and once we find out what it is we can find out if it is related to any kind of disease. YEAH!! I do assure you, these are the same as the ones he had inside the body fluids, they are not similar, they are the same. I am going to try a little bit of cultivation I know it can be done, only I will use just a little bit more control over the results. I will not use a toilet to get further results, LOL. Maybe I can incubate a live adult. OOOOOOOO AAAAAAAAAA!!! In fact I have already started an attempted experiment and there will be several different types to follow. That's great Baraka. I do appreciate what you're doing too. I sort of figure, what one has, we all *may* have, so every bit of (evidence) as I see it, is extremely important for us to learn all we can to erradicate it once we see what each issue is - since we are all left to fend for ourselves for now, and maybe for years, so tackling each problem as it comes, or rather how this (stuff) in us displays itself - *** might*** help us slowly rid this horrendous mess. I sure don't know any other way but one thing at a time when things present themselves. So I'm really glad you've had this experience for (evidence sake), but, I'm also just as sorry that you have.
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Post by toni on Jun 2, 2012 11:26:44 GMT -5
I'm gettin warm ;D I've been searching and searching, and I won't stop either, whatever it takes (so we can get your specimen ID'd) and have written to entomologists and mycologists sending your picture of your specimens, and hopefully someone will reply, but, in the meantime, I found this "link" below, and that's what's causing me to feel (in my beliefs the specimen is seed/spore related). I know we don't agree on that part, but, that's okay, I like chocolate and you like vanilla, and the great thing is, we can cover this from more than one angle, and cover more territory by branching into several "fields" to try and learn it's true origin. This is what I was thinking your specimens are in the "family of" , and finally found "something" in the area I wanted to look, and wanted to only share the "trail I'm on".... because I still don't know what your specimens are, but in remembering past things I've read about, these kinds of fungi came to mind. They call them shoot gun artillery fungus, or fungus that expells it's spores. The reason I've posted this is : I didn't want you to think I gave up. hehehe ;D Because it may take awhile, but...we WILL find out what those are (your specimens) one way or another. What is Artillery Fungus? Though these specks appear to resemble insect feces, scale crawlers, or air-borne pollutants, they are actually mature spore masses expelled from the fruiting bodies of a fungus known as "artillery" or "shotgun" fungus.
Artillery fungus develops in organic mulch and other organic materials, and is usually a greater problem in spring and fall, when conditions are cool and moist conditions and temperatures range from 50 to 70 degrees.
www.powerwash.com/articles/shotgun-or-artillery-fungus-mold-and-mildew.htmlI read somewhere else this morn (sorry I can't find that link now) but how only *just the casings can be left from these too, and they start out white, but turn browish. Oh well, I'll keep looking...and it's not that I think those "scale crawlers above in the picture look like yours" they are only posted there because they are only "in the family" of what I was thinking.
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