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Post by toni on Aug 3, 2012 9:35:38 GMT -5
Life is so much easier for those with minds that cannot accept new information...who cannot think for themselves. If "the powers that be" declare that those afflicted with morg fibers are stuffing "lint" into their "self inflicted" lesions, then that is how things are. Life is simple if you just accept the True Wisdom that is provided for you. Milk does a body good. Beef..it's what's for dinner. You deserve a break today. Pork, the other white meat. When you say Bud, you've said it all. Leggo my Eggo. I'm a Pepper. Morgellons is a delusion. You see? Wisdom for all occasions. Yeah, just pulling clothing lint out from under the new skin that formed over a self inflicted wound. Ok, "wise donkey"...what kind of skin is this scab made of? And what manner of "clothing lint" looks like this? And why is "clothing fiber" being extracted with tweezers from far INSIDE the skin margins that surround the "scab"? www.youtube.com/watch?v=dY3LIjONyCQ[one of about 2 dozen vids that I posted at YT ] The "plan" that results in humans sprouting cellulose fibers is sheer genius. Of course the fibers being removed from morg skin is "clothing fibers"..since most clothing is made of cotton.. aka "cellulose". Cellulose does not grow from humans, says right here in the "Pathology Manual vol 2." [pub: 1986] So you see, if you have a human claiming to be growing cellulose fibers as they hand you a sample of cellulose fibers..obviously they are crazy. "Someone" really did a masterful job on engineering this disaster. Let their "guinea pigs" grow fibers, but ensure that those fibers are a dead ringer for cotton fibers. Makes discrediting the victims so much easier. Homeworld, Excellent, everything you've said.
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Post by itchin4answers on Aug 3, 2012 20:01:36 GMT -5
You are a blessing Homeworld.
Thank you itchin
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Post by amyfye on Aug 4, 2012 3:43:55 GMT -5
Sound like a plan to me!
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Post by itchin4answers on Aug 6, 2012 22:04:54 GMT -5
My apologies, not trying to de rail de thread.
I mentioned above that I'd posted on Morgellons Watch. I now have 5 comments awaiting moderation.
IS this fair? NO.
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Post by davidbourke on Aug 10, 2012 10:27:33 GMT -5
With regard to medical doctors, we somehow tend to forget this very important fact:
The only thing that enables someone to put the initials MD after their name is a written and practical exam.
This exam is a test of MEMORY. It is not a test of intelligence, not a test of critical thinking, not a test of empathy, nor is it a test of open-mindedness or willingness to explore outside allopathy's cramped box. In fact, these are the very qualities that will flag a prospective candidate as not being a team player.
That team consists of just two symbiotic groups, neither of which could survive without the other. Allopathy, and Big Pharma.
I now return you to normal programming...
Love and light to you all.
Dave.
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Post by toni on Aug 10, 2012 12:14:40 GMT -5
With regard to medical doctors, we somehow tend to forget this very important fact: The only thing that enables someone to put the initials MD after their name is a written and practical exam. This exam is a test of MEMORY. It is not a test of intelligence, not a test of critical thinking, not a test of empathy, nor is it a test of open-mindedness or willingness to explore outside allopathy's cramped box. In fact, these are the very qualities that will flag a prospective candidate as not being a team player. That team consists of just two symbiotic groups, neither of which could survive without the other. Allopathy, and Big Pharma. I now return you to normal programming... Love and light to you all. Dave. heheheh ;D That's it in a nutshell of many for sure. They have the "book knowledge" but no intelligence to go with it.
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Post by homeworld on Aug 17, 2012 6:31:52 GMT -5
...another quick scamper thru several "morg" forums.. and once again I am amazed at how quiet they are. Oh sure, there are the occasional entries, often from the "newly aware that something is wrong"...or a cry of despair from someone long afflicted. What strikes me as very strange is that despite the [relatively large] number of people READING/VIEWING the forum threads..so very few are "adding their 2 cents worth". Hundreds of thousands..if not millions are now aware that "something" is very wrong with their physiology..that "something" has hijacked their biology.. but..where are their voices? It is as if most people are afraid of even chirping up in a "anonymous" forum. [not that anyone is ever really truly anonymous on the interweb..everyone can be tracked and identified should "someone" put in the effort]
This "cone of silence" surrounding the morg afflicted seems very strange. Other "diseases" have smited the general population in the past..but "keeping silent" was not the response...some "disease victims" made a point of gaggling up into large groups and getting downright rowdy in the streets. With morg folks.. there is not even talk of "mass protest".."direct action"..or "acting up". The default response appears to be to maintain a low a profile as possible..lest "someone" find out. Find out what?...that they have been attacked by some unnatural "something that should not be"? It's not the "pathogen" that is forcing the "code of silence"..it's the "agencies of the government" that have gone far out of their way to ensure that anyone that speaks of this "disease" is labeled as "crazy"/"mentally ill". Come out of the "morg closet" and state your case, and just watch your life become totally unraveled...friends, family, spouses and children all become distant or "unavailable" to the "crazy person". Responsible jobs vanish ..certainly any work involving maintaining a security clearance.."can't have crazy people in this dept". Getting new jobs..well.."a strange thing popped up in your medical screening, Mr Jones..seems that you have mental problems.".
How curious. A "disease" that if "caught" is caused by mental imbalances/impairment of some sort. A delusional disease, don't you see. It must be true..it's all right here in the government sponsored study and reports. Yeah, it's best if the "victims" keep their yapping mouths and typing fingers silent. Otherwise, bad things will happen...[your oh so vigilant government "health agencies" will see to that.]
...Yeah, I get it. A cleverly designed strategy by the "powers that be" to muffle the voices of the people that are being tormented and damaged. So far, it appears to be working fairly well. Many years have elapsed, and there does not yet appear to be indications of any sort of simmering uprising of the "silenced". How many millions more lesion covered people must there be before "the many" awaken to the fact that they are being destroyed by "the evil few"..and that "staying under the radar"..suffering anonymously..is not a path to resolving this mess.
*climbs off soap box...rearranges his long sleeve "leper shirt" and "Tilly " hat..and slinks back into the shadows.
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Post by amyfye on Aug 17, 2012 6:38:57 GMT -5
I have been thinking that myself, that no one is talking, not even as much as a month ago. Where did everyone go?
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Post by homeworld on Aug 17, 2012 12:20:35 GMT -5
...it may be that a number of the "old hands" get rather burned out endlessly discussing the morg phenomena. The years go by...hundreds of threads/posts are made... endless theories and speculations are investigated. In the end..the big picture does not improve..the "morg plague" just keeps spreading and continues to become more universal. [well..global anyway].
The clueless drones whose investigation never ventures any farther than the nearest CDC blurb endlessly parrot the "big lie": "*squaaaawk...there is no such thing as "morgellons" it's just mentally disturbed people clawing at themselves and stuffing fibers into their lesions...too much time on their hands, that's the trouble. morgs is an internet meme..if they would just walk away from their computers and get a hobby..and some mind altering meds..all would be well..*sqwaaaaK!"
Posting photographs won't make a dent in the "reality matrix" of the drones either. "You are not a qualified pathologists.. therefore your photos are without meaning.". "Everything under the microscope seems odd and bizarre to the untrained eye". "You didn't go to medical school, you don't know what is normal in the first place." [Squaaaak!] Never mind that the person posting the morg pics is usually not trying to make a dogmatic statement of the objects identity. They are merely trying to document that there is something there that is not part of normal human physiology. Trying to silence/squelch photo evidence of morgs because the one taking the pic is not a "fully trained pathologist/microbiologist ranks up on the stupidity index with statements such as:
"you are not qualified to fly a Cessna Skyhawk because you do not hold an Aeronautical Engineering degree... A totally bogus argument. The Cessna flier is not DESIGNING the aircraft..and only needs to know how to properly control it.
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Post by davidbourke on Aug 17, 2012 15:17:34 GMT -5
I couldn't agree more, homeworld.
From time immemorial, there's been a primitive shame attached to overt skin diseases and/or infestations. Most of my own family "divorced" me when I put up my website. Right from the start of my own problems, when I just had fleas and bedbugs to contend with, they were mortified to see the pest controller's truck parked outside my home.
"What will the neighbours think?"
You can do nothing with that kind of shut-down mind.
But, as you say, the real mystery is the silence of the sufferers. At this stage, it's now beyond doubt that this is a man-made affliction. To my mind, what's been done to innocent people is a violation worse than rape.
Yet where's the outrage? People may believe it's better not to make waves, to suffer in silence, and not to bring "shame" on their families. But all they're ensuring is that their children and grandchildren WILL suffer the same fate, too, or worse.
I live in Ireland, and every day I see the planes far overhead criss-crossing our skies, spraying us all with poison. This couldn't happen unless the people we elected gave their permission for Irish air-space to be used to afflict us and make it impossible to grow natural foods and herbs.
Throughout history, revolutions have taken place for lesser reasons.
Yet here we all are, watching our TVs, stoically bearing our burdens when we should be out on the streets every day of the week screaming our lungs out at the vile treachery and lies.
And to hell with shame. All shame does is poison US.
David.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Aug 17, 2012 17:17:42 GMT -5
Funny thing, the child bare foot bandit took off in a plane an escaped with it, he had no training at all, landing was another thing, he crased two I believe.
The doctors know, they are being guided by the masters, who would believe such a story that many people with wide gaping holes in their bodys are digging them.
Doctors are a farse, I am looking for the VA to recongnize this issue and they have both feet planted firmly on the ground, they say I have dug these lesions.
The doctors have no recourse but to send you to the dermatologist for skin issues and they pronounce you insane.
This started for me in the military in 1971 , I do not know about food being the issue, then it could be why not sell the genetically modified food to UNCKLE SAM, let him feed it to his children (soldiers).
Between that and innoculation for the third world and all other kind of stuff your exposed to in the military, who knows, but because of the severe itching I do know where this started.
I have a book of skin ailments in the military during my 18th and 19th years of age, there was nothing before that time, ever before the military, before this issue.
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Post by homeworld on Aug 18, 2012 8:43:32 GMT -5
....increasingly annoyed at how many people and ".orgs" are using the recent "cdc study" to "prove" that morgs is a delusion.
So, no one has a problem with the fact that the CDC tapped Kaiser Permanente to "help" the CDC do this [bogus] study? KP? Really? Why KP? Oh, they already had a bunch of "crazy" people that had come to them for help from all over California [13 counties, according to the "study"]. KP had dismissed them as delusional, and already had all that oh so helpful contact info and background data in their filing cabinets. Pull up their files, tap dance like you are doing something "new and interesting" with the data..then write them off as "delusional"...again. "We are Kaiser-Permanente, doing our part for the CDC in their attempt to "find the cause of this mysterious disease."
...How can it be that the very people that have misdiagnosed the subjects in the first place was tasked to do the study..which if done CORRECTLY would result in KP having to "rat themselves out" and declare to the world that their original "diagnosis" of DOP was totally incorrect? No one sees any bias here?..just a bit of "conflict of self interest?" It's not as if KP is the only medical org in the USA that can tap dance thru a study...but some other medical facility might possibly have tripped over the obvious...morgs ain't a delusion. Yeah, better let KP handle this hot potato..they've done so well keeping the lid on so far...
Whatever happened to "the scientific method"? Is this fiasco of a fraudulent study what passes for "SCIENCE" these days?
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Post by Baraka Obam on Aug 18, 2012 9:11:14 GMT -5
Well as you say, we need to keep records on doctors and establishments that put out such drivel and then sue them.
We need to keep records so we can show just how irrelevant the work they do is and when this all comes clear destroy them through a web sight that shows to sick people of the world how incompetent these idiots really are.
We can try to destroy their ability to make money , if people know they are NOTHING more than a glorified prescription center for antibiotics maybe they will seek treatment elsewhere.
Maybe these old guard will be thrown out after twenty or 30 law suits that strips them of hundreds of thousands of dollars.
We need to keep the articles that the charlatans put out and sue them for the damage they did to all of us, a class action suit.
After all a Doctor from a prestigious hospital that writes any paper is actually using that Establishments credentials to make the unproven lies a fact.
They can be sued, the damage they do is monumental in keeping the disease from being investigated, it is a cover up by the government
Why is it being covered up, why do you think, the government is involved in the original spread of this disease, so called AGENT ORANGE.
Agent Orange was not from chemicals, it is a biological disease, possibly the chemical exposure exacerbated it, but believe me, the first sign of this was during Vietnam, yes it was here before Vietnam but not in so many people all at once.
Just remember, many of the people in insane asylums were buggy, many were always scratching, why do you think they called it the bug factory.
Do you imagine I am saying that these people had bugs, do you imagine that I am saying that these people were insane and thought they had bugs, NO, what I am saying is that these people were locked away because they had intense itching, crawling, stinging, this disease also has an affect upon the mind, brain fog, autism, ADD, ADHD and all other kind of mess.
The itching people in the asylums these I present as the first of the cases of so called morgellons.
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Post by toni on Aug 18, 2012 9:32:48 GMT -5
Having this (morgs) as we do, we sure are getting a good look at reality aren't we. In every aspect too of (how the gov plays) the game called: ( HIDE THE SECRETS).
It's nothing new - the only "new thing" is WE ARE INVOLVED this time.
So the question still remains, how do WE rip this wide open?
I know (suing doctors) is not realistic....well, I can't speak for everyone, but, unless you've got an extra 300 grand to "play with" for beginners, there IS NO suing any doctors. I'm serious. Been there, done that, and the law isn't any different any where else.
A person MUST hire a panel of experts (yes, doctors) you must retain to AGREE with you that which ever doctor you've been "done wrong by" or that you "feel you've been done wrong by" - you (me) any of us, must prove that your doctor has done something (that NO ONE ELSE) in the medical field would do. Then you * might * have a leg to stand on. And it's so costly - you can't even imagine. And that's not even counting the attorney.
The reason I'm saying this is, if we could find a way that that IS realistic, then that's what we need to do.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Aug 18, 2012 9:53:25 GMT -5
We could very easily send out fliers to every dermatologist in America EASILY and explain that a diagnosis of DOP for people suffering with Morgellons will get them sued when the issue comes clear.
Class action lawsuit, have you ever heard that word lately, remember it, there are more class action lawsuits going on then anything else.
I am sorry to say, this is a fact, so many people are infected with this disease that the side affects from drugs may actually be a reaction of this HIDDEN DISEASE.
If the drug company's grasped onto this they would have a reason to deny it was actually their drug brought out the hidden disease symptom and did not create them.
There is a defense for the pharmaceutical company's in our disease.
Do you understand what I am saying, these drugs do not cause the issues, they bring them out, expose the fact that the people have a underlying hidden cause for their disease or issues.
Do you imagine that people just out of the blue get TB because they took some form of drug, I do not see that as possible, what I see is the ability of pathogens to morph from different stimulus or a very silent form of TB slinking in the systems of people hidden away waiting to spring.
I do not believe a compound can cause a pathogen to just appear, there is something hidden away just waiting, you can call it Morgellons but I am afraid Morgellons is not a very good name for it, Morgellons is loud, so called Morgellons makes lesion?TUMORS on the skin and fibers spring from our body's causing huge amounts of itching, there is something else hidden that is doing the dirty.
The side affects of drugs are just sings of the many facets of this monsters ability.
The only thing they have to do is recognize it.
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Post by toni on Aug 18, 2012 10:36:38 GMT -5
Baraka,
I totally 100% understand exactly what you mean.
I agree.
The only thing I have a difference of opinion of is "I know", believe me, that I could give derms this info every day of the week, but ...their ears will still remain shut.
Imho, that's not the way to go, trying to beat a dead horse, or...trying to "make" them see it my way. I gave up on trying to "make anyone" believe in Morgs that doesn't. That becomes a vicious circle and wearing of ones self.
But, alerting the public....that's the rest of our army to join us.
That's where the ammo lies against the gov etc, imho. To change (the system) there's got to be enough voices.
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Post by toni on Aug 18, 2012 11:04:12 GMT -5
Baraka, something you said too in your post, I SURE do also agree with.
It's NOT the drugs that are causing this (morgs).
The meds today (some) can accelerate morgellons, imho.
Taking meds without knowing what exactly we're infected with, can cause serious interactions when taking meds.
No differently than taking the wrong antiparasitical without a diagnoses of what type parasite one has. There are drugs today to treat (SPECIFIC) parasite infections, and if one took that particular med, they could lose their eye sight if they weren't tested first.
Just like (another example).
Dogs.
One cannot give a dog (heart worm medication) UNTIL the dog is tested first for heart worms. Why? Because to give a dog heart worm medicine can kill the dog!
It's no different for humans when drugs/meds are taken.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Aug 18, 2012 11:11:41 GMT -5
Let me reintegrate, there is noting a professional is more afraid of then being destroyed by a simple piece of paper.
Suing is their most feared opponent.
You CAN sue anyone for anything, can not find a lawyer, sue them yourself, most of us have nothing to lose.
Here is what I suggested, printing up 10,000 fliers with information on Morgellons as seen by the researchers and doctors that are investigating it.
Then also put a claim in there that harm is being done to those that suffer this disease and they are being referred to as DOP.
This DOP reference actually may be true in many cases, as even though no insects can be seen by anyone else but these people, STILL the diagnosis of delusions can not be diagnosed by the lay person it would have to be a psychiatrist and not the common doctor.
To say a person was delusional when this is not your scope of expertise is libelous.
Then there is also the idea that this is a Internet disease and the lesions are not real, when all of this comes clear, I am sorry they can be sued as they did not deliver the care needed that they were PAID FOR and did harm these peoples mental attitudes, stress, whatever.
IF these doctors are warned, if they get a letter in the mail warning of the ability to be sued in the future they will not I guarantee be diagnosing that we have dug holes in our bodies, they may not accept our payments if they can not treat us, they will not , offer up the DOP diagnosis for any talk of bugs, still they would be in their right to do so as a observation.
Such as
Patient claims bugs are all over their body biting, no sign of bugs. When I inform patient I saw no indication of insects they still insist of being bitten. patient seems to be under a great deal of stress and it seems they are digging at their flesh causing raw patches of skin.
If anyone wants to make up a warning to doctors of Dermatology to the coming flood of law suits, I will help and I will pay the postage,
how do you like that, but alas I know nobody wants to do anything, just talk.
you know we should start a non profit, that should be the first issue at hand, then we can except donations and give them to money to the right people.
We can also get discounts on mailings and other stuff, who has nothing better to do then get the non profit up and working.
WHO WHO WHO, Get a Non profit up and working get some people ready willing, able to WORK and send out fliers and we would be in business.
I will pay for the first 5000 fliers, how is that, that is alot of money that's how that is. So , Non profit, and then fliers, I will do my part anyone else.
While we are at it we can send fliers to every actor and state and federal lawmaker, I am more than sure these base tards are itching.
Say it enough and people believe even if its not true, in our case we are unlucky our so called delusions are true, we just are not doing anything about it. We could also use a web site designed by professionals to grab every single request for our issues off the net and direct them to the possibility that they are us.
Anyway, I have dreams.
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Post by amyfye on Aug 18, 2012 12:35:42 GMT -5
How do we alert the pubic? How How How???
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Post by Baraka Obam on Aug 18, 2012 12:55:38 GMT -5
Go to every site for everyone of our issues, hair loss, womens hair loss, rashes, itchy rashes, sores that will not heal, itching, itchy feet, eye problems, losing eyebrows, sores on legs, sores on arms, diabetic issues, diabetic sores, tinnitus, ringing in the ears, bleeding spots on skin, allopecia, keratitis, graves disease, cronic fatigue syndrom, fibramialga, carple tunnel, bug bites, scabies, bed bugs, you can go to all of these sites and more. Go to them and insert a warning about this disease, do not mention bugs as they will go and see bugs mean crazy, sooo, if you keep on posting all over the net at these sites the people will realize, they do not have this or that, THEY HAVE MORGELLONS the itching fiber disease. They will realize they have what causes all unknown cause fibrous connected disease. MAYBE, LOL, then they may just sit and wonder why they have so many issues, they may sit and believe the miscreant doctor that tells them it is their nerves. WHO KNOWS What I do know is the more you post in other places of INTEREST you will be bringing a larger audience together, WE ARE NOT ALONE, anyone that thinks we are, is not thinking, our symptom pool is just too large to dismiss, we have company they are just not all as invaded as we are, some are worse, they are dying. You know, because this issue for me started in the military I have to wonder if it was actually the work of those that know what is best for us. I wonder if they surmised we needed to be inoculated in mass to all disease that the future of the world may face, could this work, yes it could work. Could it work in our lifetime, most likely not, it would be our childrens children, 3rd, 4th maybe 5th generation who's immune system would recongnize the culprit and fight it from birth. Possibly, certainly it is, if they can mutate cats and pigs to glow in the dark come on, what else can they do, the movie the fly, that is now possible. Here a 12 bizzar instances of just such weird messing with gods work. www.mnn.com/green-tech/research-innovations/photos/12-bizarre-examples-of-genetic-engineering/mad-science
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