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Post by vasue on Sept 24, 2012 10:20:50 GMT -5
Torpedolynn had her computer crash - looks like a extreme virus. She wants everyone here to know not to open any emails she may have sent you recently. She's also worried that links she may have left in her posts here may have been the source of the virus.
Since her computer is down, she has no internet access & will be absent here until the situation is resolved.
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Post by Ayla on Sept 24, 2012 19:28:47 GMT -5
Bluesky I'm happy to hear you are feeling better this week. Sorry to have not put up that page on my site. I want to run it by the guy that did the live blood microscopy to make sure I've got everything right. It's almost done.
As for a fiber in the live blood analysis, I think what we saw in mine was a fiber. There will be many photos of it when the page goes up.
I'm so glad you are posting your experiences with the treatment. Word gets out when a new treatment comes on the scene and we all want to know if it's worth pursuing. I hope it does the trick for you.
By the way, I agree, the change of season does stir the Morgdragon up. xox Ayla
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Post by Ayla on Sept 27, 2012 11:31:48 GMT -5
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Post by bluesky on Sept 27, 2012 15:03:21 GMT -5
That is brilliant, what you've documented, morgticia. Historically, we might find some significant commonalities in live blood analysis of those of us with this group of symptoms. Thank you for doing all this work and putting it p on your site.
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Post by Lynn on Sept 27, 2012 17:41:53 GMT -5
Hi Morgticia
Very well put together. It is all so scary sometimes I can not bear to see it but I have to look and see and know. Imagine that happening in all our bodies. It makes you realize this disease is very serious. Without Dr. acknowledgement it kind of gets lost over time it is very serious until someone puts it out to see and then rrrrip.... we remember oh gosh I need to really put more effort into this battle. With other family members not even realizing it it a illness to began with it kind of takes you away from the seriousness of it also. Especially when I try to show them some of the abnormal stuff and they kind of take in a breath an you can see them trying not to roll their eyes. Thanks for sharing and what a wake up call.
In Light Lynn/TorpedoLynn
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Post by Ayla on Sept 27, 2012 20:15:05 GMT -5
Thank you girls for your support. I hope that the page will be seen by the scientific/medical community as well and that it will have meaning as documentation of our illness.
I'm not so sure that the things we are seeing in our blood are that different then the rest of the population (except for that MASSIVE fiber). I believe there are a lot of problems in most non-Morg people, but seeing the blood one connects that the problems we have are very real and can be understood better then simply lab results.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Sept 29, 2012 19:05:47 GMT -5
Very good post, I like it, I tried to copy my blood video and put it online it is not easy for me. I have the disc, I will try to copy it again.
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Post by itchin4answers on Sept 29, 2012 21:43:08 GMT -5
Very good post, I like it, I tried to copy my blood video and put it online it is not easy for me. I have the disc, I will try to copy it again. Baraka, what if I were to put a drop of my blood under the scope, would I know what I was looking at? - NO of course I wouldn't LOL...sorry I can't get my words out!!!...what do you think I think is what I'm trying to say. To look or not to look?
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Post by Baraka Obam on Sept 29, 2012 22:01:35 GMT -5
You will know one thing fibers will apear out of nowhere they will actually grow out of the blood over time.
The place you really want to look is in the excrement, in just a match head sized pice of crapolia you will find more of this fibrous material then you would imagine.
You can find them in your saliva and also urine.
Its killing you you may as well know what it looks like.
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Post by bluesky on Sept 30, 2012 7:36:47 GMT -5
Ok, so another live blood analysis this past week, followed by another UVB session.
This weeks live blood analysis showed that the Red blood cells are healthier, more rounded and few of them have been penetrated by bacteria. They are no longer exhibiting Rouleaux (stuck together).
There was still some bacteria, but not a lot. What was seen was very active.
The candida-like yeast is still there and quite a lot seen. Many of the yeasts have been infiltrated with the bacteria. Yeast is the most difficult of these problems to resolve and this will take more time.
Some more uric acid crystals were also seen as well as some fibrin still forming.
The white blood cells were quite spectacular; large, streaming and moving as they should and very healthy. I enjoyed watching one in particular changing shape, expanding and contracting; the first I have seen do this in my live blood samples. This is particularly encouraging, as the immune system regains speed and efficiency.
My energy levels are usually consistent, not vibrant, yet not yet tired; somewhere between good and average.
The scalp issues continue to be bothersome, but the stage of the organism is lengthened. I usually only have a day or two of the last stage (the tiny red-brown 'hard biters'); but currently, this stage has been on-going for more than ten days, with no symptoms of pupa, larva or eggs. Very curious.
The goal with continuing UVB is to achieve homeostasis -balance of all the components of the blood. It may be possible for the immune system to eradicate what is bothering the scalp and skin when this is achieved. Only time and further sessions followed by analysis will reveal if this is possible. However, my practitioner remains very optimistic that this will happen.
If current symptoms and blood analysis reaches a plateau in progress, then the wand-like instrument that sits in the navel will be replaced with UVB via a needle in a vein; the decision to alter the delivery method of UV light to the blood cannot be made until a few more sessions are completed and the live blood analyzed a week after each.
I will post again with further results.
Unlike others with these live blood analysis results, I do not have fibers, or at least none have been seen in any of the blood samples I have looked at under microscope, and none have been seen in microscope imaging of skin samples. No artifacts of any type have been seen in any samples, either.
I would appreciate seeing more live blood analysis imaging from anyone who has had it done. Posting them here on this thread would be good, or a link to another location, if you have one. Photobucket is a good place to park things. Only comparing what is seen in all of us will give more clues as to what is occurring in those of us who have symptoms in common. It is a hope that someone, somewhere, who is looking at this illness seriously, will see these video and images and begin to connect the dots. We need some progress on this front.
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Post by Lynn on Sept 30, 2012 11:49:50 GMT -5
Hi Baraka
I hear you on this one. All the tiny white specks floating in the toilet after I go pee. The fuzzy looking stuff on the poo which is something that some will see off and on through out life. I did. But now to often. Then over a month or longer ago I was spitting up black specks and amber crystal along with tiny pinkish red little worms curled up into a C shape. They were half the size of this c that I just left on the page. But over six months ago for almost a year I would just let out a little cough for no reason. I had no urge to cough or clear my throat. Then out would pop a very tiny white Nat and fly away out of reach and round about the room. That would happen every other month for a time. I believe this was stuff going into my sinus and into my mouth. Hopefully not from my lungs.
Yesterday I was spitting up a few black specks and also had the night before had a black speck party coming out of the pores on my neck, shoulders, upper chest and face. I went to use the restroom and when I washed my hands I was covered in black specks. Some of the pretty big. I plucked them off and then watched in the mirror as more were pushed out. I think like my BFF said it is a good thing to see that junk come out. The body doing its job. The next morning I had a little bit of a left over show going on and my hubby was home so I took him into the bathroom to have him watch some tiny ones pop out of my face. He said the black specks were dirt and that's all it was. I asked him how dirt could just come out of my pores like that after two stringent showers a day and why my side of the bed is covered in these black specks but no one else who take normal showers has them pushing out of their pores. He could not answer but still was adamant that I was taking something normal and making it into something it was not. I could not believe what he had decided. I was frustrated and felt hurt and angry. Also I use to never have black specks push out of my skin all my life until I became ill with Morgellons. I asked him why that would happen suddenly the past 3 years. Of course he did not know but thought it was normal. I wish he had been home when the big push out party happen and there were some big black specks to go with all the tiny ones. Big blinders and not on my part.
Grrrrrrrrrrr............ In Light Lynn/TorpedoLynn
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Post by itchin4answers on Sept 30, 2012 18:36:28 GMT -5
You will know one thing fibers will apear out of nowhere they will actually grow out of the blood over time. The place you really want to look is in the excrement, in just a match head sized pice of crapolia you will find more of this fibrous material then you would imagine. You can find them in your saliva and also urine. Its killing you you may as well know what it looks like. I've procrastinated long enough on scoping the poop. I won't be preparing slides etc I will just toothpick the crapolia and see if it waves at me...thanks Baraka.
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Post by headbee on Sept 30, 2012 19:54:13 GMT -5
Had my latest live blood analysis. It was beautiful!
I started taking Reliv. It is non GMO soy based supplement and had friends tell me about it for a few years but I balked. I now have been on it 4 weeks and I feel great and have more energy and muscle tone improved, my face is getting a glow! I gained 5 pounds. My body before was not absorbing what I was eating or what I was taking. It rebuilds your cells. It works great. Problem is due to FDA regulations it is hard to find out how exactly it helps you. You have to rely on testimonials. Search on the Internet just shows how to be a distributor or buy from a distributor.
They are powders you mix in a shake. Made in St. Louis.
Problem is it is expensive. Costs about 120.00 a month for what all I needed, 4 products. To get the cost down, I signed up to be a distributor. Cost 25 to join but saved 30.00 off 1st order. They are in every city and country if you are interested, or PM me and will hook you us with my very knowledgable sponsor. Shipping cost is the same no matter who you buy it from. But if you look at cost per day. 3.00 a day is not bad for something that does this good.
Also found I am not as hungry, it is not considered a meal replacement but for me it has cut out lunch and now just take it with a healthy snack.
I am going to stay on it for at least 6 months or rest of my life, finances may dictate but this is just what my body was needing.
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Post by itchin4answers on Oct 1, 2012 1:10:03 GMT -5
You will know one thing fibers will apear out of nowhere they will actually grow out of the blood over time. The place you really want to look is in the excrement, in just a match head sized pice of crapolia you will find more of this fibrous material then you would imagine. You can find them in your saliva and also urine. Its killing you you may as well know what it looks like. I've procrastinated long enough on scoping the poop. I won't be preparing slides etc I will just toothpick the crapolia and see if it waves at me...thanks Baraka. Scoping poop sounds easy, it isn't. I've got as far as the toothpick with the specimen which is inside a specimen jar. I am not thrilled with this microscope and honestly I have no idea what I'm doing. I'll get back to you.
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Post by itchin4answers on Oct 1, 2012 4:50:38 GMT -5
Hi Baraka I hear you on this one. All the tiny white specks floating in the toilet after I go pee. The fuzzy looking stuff on the poo which is something that some will see off and on through out life. I did. But now to often. Then over a month or longer ago I was spitting up black specks and amber crystal along with tiny pinkish red little worms curled up into a C shape. They were half the size of this c that I just left on the page. But over six months ago for almost a year I would just let out a little cough for no reason. I had no urge to cough or clear my throat. Then out would pop a very tiny white Nat and fly away out of reach and round about the room. That would happen every other month for a time. I believe this was stuff going into my sinus and into my mouth. Hopefully not from my lungs. Yesterday I was spitting up a few black specks and also had the night before had a black speck party coming out of the pores on my neck, shoulders, upper chest and face. I went to use the restroom and when I washed my hands I was covered in black specks. Some of the pretty big. I plucked them off and then watched in the mirror as more were pushed out. I think like my BFF said it is a good thing to see that junk come out. The body doing its job. The next morning I had a little bit of a left over show going on and my hubby was home so I took him into the bathroom to have him watch some tiny ones pop out of my face. He said the black specks were dirt and that's all it was. I asked him how dirt could just come out of my pores like that after two stringent showers a day and why my side of the bed is covered in these black specks but no one else who take normal showers has them pushing out of their pores. He could not answer but still was adamant that I was taking something normal and making it into something it was not. I could not believe what he had decided. I was frustrated and felt hurt and angry. Also I use to never have black specks push out of my skin all my life until I became ill with Morgellons. I asked him why that would happen suddenly the past 3 years. Of course he did not know but thought it was normal. I wish he had been home when the big push out party happen and there were some big black specks to go with all the tiny ones. Big blinders and not on my part. Grrrrrrrrrrr............ In Light Lynn/TorpedoLynn Hi Lynn, I had avoided reading your post and only felt up to it tonight. I hear your frustration, and relate. I have never looked in my poop, only once looked in my urine and that looked like a snow dome. I don't look too close because when I do, I can not cope. The other week with the hair coming out of my face, never want to experience that torture again. Then blisters came up on my right cheek, the pain was out of this world. Woke me from my sleep and they felt like sharp prongs when I touched my face. So I'm looking at these huge blisters in the wee hours of the morning and feeling grateful that the $2.70 Ibrubrofen gel caps worked for the pain. I had to see a different doctor. This lady doc was nice, she looked at the blisters with the light and she said she didn't know what they where. I said that my face itched terrible the day prior. My mum as my witness. The doctor put the temperature gauge to my forehead and I said "temp normal?" - the doctor said "No, are you sweating because I can not get a reading?" I said "I just feel very unwell". She fast tracked a script through the computer so I could have the antiviral on PBS. She said "I have to put down that I am treating you for shingles, as I don't know what it is". The following day I just happened to glance in the mirror in my lounge whilst talking to mum on the phone. "OMG!" is all mum heard me say. The gland under my chin hung down like a golf ball. I had touched under my chin earlier and thought "oh that hurts and it's swollen". As Mum said, if it's viral why do you have a golf ball gland. Our situations are never perfect and when my ex was living with me say 3 or 4 months ago I had the crystals, black specks, sand type material and blue fuzz coming out of my face. He touched it and said that is gross, feels like sand and look at the colour, yuk. Either way didn't help me any. Love itchin
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Post by Ayla on Oct 1, 2012 10:19:53 GMT -5
Itchin, Feeling your pain. Your partner is in denial. Bigtime. That is so unfortunate for you. Men, I feel have a harder time accepting this disease as real then women. What this kind of denial does is force one to go underground with their feelings. I don't think I'd be able to accept that. So sorry you have to deal with this mindset.
Can I ask, did anything unusual happen that day, or the day before that caused such an outpouring of particles from your skin? Any new stress, new meds, unusual foods...anything that one might consider a trigger?
Bluesky, I am so happy to hear of your improvements and the meticulous way you are keeping us filled in.
Would you mind clarifying for me something? You mention "The scalp issues continue to be bothersome, but the stage of the organism is lengthened. I usually only have a day or two of the last stage (the tiny red-brown 'hard biters'); but currently, this stage has been on-going for more than ten days, with no symptoms of pupa, larva or eggs. Very curious."
Do you normally, see pupa, larva and eggs after you the brown things and how long does that stage last? How do they look that is different? Are they wet, larger, smaller, hard/soft...and how do you know they are larva?
I have sand like specks that come from the hair sometimes, but I just don't know what they are. Sometimes I think maybe they are larva, but how do you know?
I'm with your practitioner, and am hopeful the scalp situation will improve. I'm surprised he hasn't used the needle method on you already. I'd be asking for the bigger guns. Maybe though the body needs to do this gently? Did you post a video of the session anywhere? Thanks.
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Post by bluesky on Oct 1, 2012 15:51:32 GMT -5
AylaYes, it comes in stages. Weather, air or house temperatures and whether I have recently had a shower or have got wet in the rain, all seem to have an effect on the length of each stage. If it is cold outside, the stage lasts longer -my scalp gets very tight when I am in cold air, but loosens when going into a warm place and then more of whatever stage it is in comes out of my scalp. Getting my hair or scalp wet always makes any stage worse, and seems to increase the numbers of them. The first stage is a sand-like substance that literally falls out of my hair when I bend over or lean forward; it is light brown in color. This only lasts a day or two. I am not sure, but I suspect that these are eggs. In the second stage I feel a tickling sensation on my eyes, ears, face and scalp, and wiping it reveals tiny white thread-like objects, perhaps larva of some sort. About three or four days. In the third stage about 3 days later there are sticky white rounded objects that emerge from my scalp. At first, they are very very small, but larger and larger ones come out of my scalp and hair over the course of 7-10 days. These are most troublesome because they burn and sting, and embed themselves under any skin that they fall on. In this stage, I can often feel a "popping" sensation in my hair, followed by a crawling sensation. Some of these have been sent to a lab person who works in environmental science; they have been identified as pupa of some sort. In the fourth stage there appears to be a hard shell on the previous white objects that come from my scalp and hair in this stage. It is very itchy and scratchy and often gets embedded in my clothing fibers and is very hard to launder out without very hot washing and drying. At first, it looks something like a louse, part dark grey, part white. Later, it looks light brown to reddish brown and will run around in my hair, as ants would, run into my eyes, nose, ears and is very distressing. I have allergic reactions during this stage. This phase lasts from a day to three days or so. The last stage seems to be adults of some kind. This stage usally lasts a few days only. They are very tiny, like ground pepper, not always black, but sometimes brownish-black. They move very fast and are hard to wipe away. These burrow into my scalp with a piercing, needle-like sensation, or at least they seem to burrow into my scalp. When on my scalp they feel like they are holding on with claws embedded into the surface. I can sometimes feel something sticking out of the surface, like tiny wood splinters; when I rub them they hurt as if a shard of glass is stuck in the surface. I can wipe these tiny brownish-black objects from my eyelashes and eyebrows when they fall from my hair. If they fall on my face they sting and itch, but if I don't wipe them away they crawl into my eyes, nose and mouth.This last stage is still on-going.. I've lost track of the number of days, but surely must be about 2 weeks now. Sorry, there have been no videos for a few weeks now. There is not much change in the images from previous videos. When I ate something with veg oil in it, the images were almost exactly like the first video. By the following week, after getting better from that setback, all subsequent LBA's images have looked like the last one I posted, so there is really nothing new in recent LBA's to show. Caveat: except for the stellar white blood cell streaming and 'working it'.
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Post by itchin4answers on Oct 1, 2012 16:11:07 GMT -5
Itchin, Feeling your pain. Your partner is in denial. Bigtime. That is so unfortunate for you. Men, I feel have a harder time accepting this disease as real then women. What this kind of denial does is force one to go underground with their feelings. I don't think I'd be able to accept that. So sorry you have to deal with this mindset. Can I ask, did anything unusual happen that day, or the day before that caused such an outpouring of particles from your skin? Any new stress, new meds, unusual foods...anything that one might consider a trigger? Bluesky, I am so happy to hear of your improvements and the meticulous way you are keeping us filled in. Would you mind clarifying for me something? You mention "The scalp issues continue to be bothersome, but the stage of the organism is lengthened. I usually only have a day or two of the last stage (the tiny red-brown 'hard biters'); but currently, this stage has been on-going for more than ten days, with no symptoms of pupa, larva or eggs. Very curious." Do you normally, see pupa, larva and eggs after you the brown things and how long does that stage last? How do they look that is different? Are they wet, larger, smaller, hard/soft...and how do you know they are larva? I have sand like specks that come from the hair sometimes, but I just don't know what they are. Sometimes I think maybe they are larva, but how do you know? I'm with your practitioner, and am hopeful the scalp situation will improve. I'm surprised he hasn't used the needle method on you already. I'd be asking for the bigger guns. Maybe though the body needs to do this gently? Did you post a video of the session anywhere? Thanks. Hi Morgticia, I had applied sulphur based gel to my skin to get this disease out. My partner was one of my triggers and (IMO) carried a contagion. He hasn't lived with us for 2 months. He suffers Alcoholism and no doubt has Lyme and co. He is a very sick man and he needs professional help. I can not make him better I tried, though to the detriment of my own health. I do know their are cycles and patterns to this disease and at times anything can be a trigger. Morgellons and Lyme requires, at times, more often than less, a mind of steal and a heart of gold. Thank you Love itchin.
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Post by itchin4answers on Oct 1, 2012 17:28:17 GMT -5
Itchin, Feeling your pain. Your partner is in denial. Bigtime. That is so unfortunate for you. Men, I feel have a harder time accepting this disease as real then women. What this kind of denial does is force one to go underground with their feelings. I don't think I'd be able to accept that. So sorry you have to deal with this mindset. Can I ask, did anything unusual happen that day, or the day before that caused such an outpouring of particles from your skin? Any new stress, new meds, unusual foods...anything that one might consider a trigger? Bluesky, I am so happy to hear of your improvements and the meticulous way you are keeping us filled in. Would you mind clarifying for me something? You mention "The scalp issues continue to be bothersome, but the stage of the organism is lengthened. I usually only have a day or two of the last stage (the tiny red-brown 'hard biters'); but currently, this stage has been on-going for more than ten days, with no symptoms of pupa, larva or eggs. Very curious." Do you normally, see pupa, larva and eggs after you the brown things and how long does that stage last? How do they look that is different? Are they wet, larger, smaller, hard/soft...and how do you know they are larva? I have sand like specks that come from the hair sometimes, but I just don't know what they are. Sometimes I think maybe they are larva, but how do you know? I'm with your practitioner, and am hopeful the scalp situation will improve. I'm surprised he hasn't used the needle method on you already. I'd be asking for the bigger guns. Maybe though the body needs to do this gently? Did you post a video of the session anywhere? Thanks. Hi Morgticia, I had applied sulphur based gel to my skin to get this disease out. My partner was one of my triggers and (IMO) carried a contagion. He hasn't lived with us for 2 months. He suffers Alcoholism and no doubt has Lyme and co. He is a very sick man and he needs professional help. I can not make him better I tried, though to the detriment of my own health. I do know their are cycles and patterns to this disease and at times anything can be a trigger. Morgellons and Lyme requires, at times, more often than less, a mind of steal and a heart of gold. Thank you Love itchin. ....and I sure know that the invader that lives within has it's own little agenda. I am/or was a perfectionist. As my disease worsened I knew there was something terribly wrong with me, particularly when I lost confidence in my career. I was hesitant whilst typing Radiology reports because my spelling was taking on a whole new meaning. I worked in one of the BEST Radiology practices in Melbourne. All the elite footballers, Athletes, TV soap stars, cricketers, and even an ex PM went there, yes I typed their reports about their ailments. This disease does steal the mind and it likes to play games with my head. A mind of STEEL!
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Post by Lynn on Oct 1, 2012 23:02:24 GMT -5
Hi Itchen
So weird how many things we all have in common and then people around us have big old blinders on. At home it has been a bit frustrating lately.
In Light Lynn/TorpedoLynn
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