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Post by itchin4answers on Oct 4, 2012 1:01:57 GMT -5
No mutation that i have seen,so how do you know that it occurs? Milk has been used on M sufferers since it was first known about. What do you bring to the table? ((((A R E Y O U A N A L I E N)))) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D .....sorry I couldn't help myself, weather and stress. I bring myself to this table and that's about it mate! Cheers itchin
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Post by itchin4answers on Oct 4, 2012 1:29:09 GMT -5
No mutation that i have seen,so how do you know that it occurs? Milk has been used on M sufferers since it was first known about. What do you bring to the table? ((((A R E Y O U A N A L I E N)))) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D .....sorry I couldn't help myself, weather and stress. I bring myself to this table and that's about it mate! Cheers itchin This is the link to my treatment protocol; www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF2afXMv9yc
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Post by scabdraggr on Oct 4, 2012 13:35:12 GMT -5
Which one of us isn't?
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Post by itchin4answers on Oct 4, 2012 16:04:20 GMT -5
My difficulty is figuring out whose side who is on and this is not about the internet. It is much closer to home, family, neighbors, people I meet at the store. I crave to socialize, and my son craves more than I to the extreme. I become warn out and my son still can't get enough.
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Post by scabdraggr on Oct 4, 2012 16:56:56 GMT -5
Sides? What side of what?
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Post by itchin4answers on Oct 4, 2012 17:28:12 GMT -5
Sides? What side of what? Scrap, Could you please "quote" my post if you are addressing me? thank you. I can see in peoples eyes. You should know what I am talking about. You have Morgellons. Cheers itchin.
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Post by threader on Oct 4, 2012 22:10:47 GMT -5
Day 1 with the microscope. I shot all my stool sample specimens holding a flashlight on the side, tossed out the samples, and then realized the microscope has a built in light. Anyways, here's what fenben brings out: A chunk of "whiteworm", cohesive and wormlike when wet, but it kinda crystalied when allowed to dry on the slide for this photo Wierd stuff I see a lot of, I call it "Morg fruit roll up" One a few hard, bb sized balls I've found, with it's standard red "nucleus" spot on the left side. I'll be harvesting any more of these found, they are rock hard and really intrigue me. Another fruit rollup, yawn. This thing is just a wierd mass that was quite red when removed. We need a better shot to start guessing at it. The above were all removed from stool, stored a couple days in 70% alcohol. This is day 1 with the new digiscope toy, future photos will be more clear, with something included for scale. Here a little guy that came off my lip while doing the samples:
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Post by scabdraggr on Oct 5, 2012 4:26:40 GMT -5
Threader,The top pic is a fungal slug not yet fully developed. The fruit roll ups,I hope no pun is intended,are the top or outside edge of the green or red fungal globs that live inside us,mainly in the small intestine.It's when they stay too long in there that the real issues begin.The poison that they excreet destroys skin cells for most but for many the fungus never comes to the surface.However the white lines and spots can be seen where the pigment has been lost. The round hard ball is a mystery at the moment even though I have many stages of the samples and pics.I found one as large as a bird egg.The pic will be posted. 5/6 are of the fruiting masses produced by copulation of the red and green fibers.The green ones will be out soon if you keep treating yourself. this is a vid of the two fibers having a moment. www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzwHp1ArXYw The pics need to accompy this vid so that the entire action is understood correctly. Threader,careful you'll forget to wash your hands! Thanks for coming forth with the wonderful pics.You did good!
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Post by threader on Oct 5, 2012 20:12:41 GMT -5
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Post by scabdraggr on Oct 6, 2012 7:25:49 GMT -5
Threader,the big ones from my body were 1.5 in wide and 5 in long. I have pics of them but they have been put away somewhere.The equimax can be made 10times as effective wih the pyrantel pamoate used in tandem but cut down th dosage if done this way.Much more ugly will be released, so hang on for the ride in the mornings.Thank you so much for giving me a bit of help,this crud releases a set of toxins that are hell to deal with,I'm so glad that i am almost rid of them.I fell better than I have in 50years!
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Post by Baraka Obam on Oct 6, 2012 10:11:53 GMT -5
Threader, how do you KNOW these are WORMS, how do you know its not the lining of your stomach or colon, what is it that makes this a worm, the shape? How do we say what this actually is, how about we call it matter unless we can prove it to be worms. I will use a cloud as reference, I say a cloud is George Bushes wife Barbra, you say it is George Washington, is it really either or does it just look like both of them. Can I find anything in nature that looks like a worm but is not, is a parasite always dead when it comes out of the body, if this worm was alive wouldn't some of them come out alive in the excrement, this is the usual way parasites spread by being exuded in the poo. SOOOOOOOOO, these living items would have also left DNA in the poo even if they were dead, this DNA will be picked up by testing as abnormal and or parasitic. If your going to be unbiased your use of words should reflect this. If you can not prove what your exuding then you can not really say what the matter is. If you can prove it to be a worm then you would also know what kind of worm it is. If not it is a oblong capsulated unknown growth, yes/no.
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Post by itchin4answers on Oct 6, 2012 15:24:41 GMT -5
They are superb images threader and I must say I am very jealous of your scope. I have a specimen under my scope which has been there days. The images are crap, taken of crap and day 1 when put under the scope the poop had already grown a fringe!
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Post by scabdraggr on Oct 6, 2012 15:45:18 GMT -5
With dicty being the source of these specimens,which is easy to prove,the question becomes how and why.
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Post by itchin4answers on Oct 6, 2012 19:42:57 GMT -5
I will clarify "superb images" I haven't a clue what I am looking at, however the images are clear.
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Post by threader on Oct 7, 2012 16:48:15 GMT -5
Stool samples have reduced "roots", but increasing "fruit roll ups", longer "worms", "meat chunks", and clear pods with a bit of red. [
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Post by threader on Oct 10, 2012 5:09:48 GMT -5
@ B.O.- sry if I called something a worm without quotes somewhere, IDK what any of this stuff is, but I am seeing the same matter consistently. @ Scab- yes the heart dewormer puts a nice kick on the Equimax. Symptoms are so improved. Constipation and abdominal pain have ceased. Bouts of acute fatigue continue, but I feel great when I wake up from the naps they produce. It feels like healing. My temper is shorter than usual, my addictions feel less pressing. There are many changes happening with this regimen, most are positive. So far the early constipation has been the worst of it.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Oct 10, 2012 7:32:59 GMT -5
Thanks for your attention to details. "Particles that seem or possibly could be parasitic " These seemingly small issues you speak about, would you imagine they would be the same for a older very sick subject, baby or child. Would you imagine the situation ending, you see threader, scab is still doing these drugs. I know scabdragger does not pay attention to the fiber load but why not it is a marker of all our symptoms, and really where does it come from if not the disease? I am interested in the outcome thats for sure, are you taking anymore pictures of the excrement and URINE, do not forget the urine and if you can please some pictures of blood. The diabetic testing lance is a great way to get blood.
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Post by scabdraggr on Oct 10, 2012 14:33:12 GMT -5
BO,stop[ misquoting me for the purpose of trying to act like you know something which for four years you have not.You invited me here to help then you attack me with all your force. JEALOUSY is not a researchers tool. Get real guy,what is your problem? Jealousy,it's so obvious. You don't seem to have a good grip on yourself. OZONE? Come on,what is the real issue?
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Post by Baraka Obam on Oct 10, 2012 16:09:36 GMT -5
Yes I am GREEN with jealousy, I do not know why, no I do not, maybe because your so much smarter and better then me, I have always lacked confidence, I am but a little mouse in a world filled with lions, WAAAAAAAAAA.
Lets get back to reality bud, first off you have said that fiber load means nothing, second you and I did not know the identity of the Phorid fly when I tried to work with you, because of pictures you had posted and a developed bug I had found in my home, I tried to find out what body fluid, fecal matter, material you were scoping to get your pictures, this is what brought us together.
Yes I felt MAYBE we could work togeter to find positive results of ANYTHING that would bring forth anything conclusive.
The fact of the matter is this, because you THINK you have all the answers we could not proceed with any conclusive results.
The only conclusion was found by a relative of one of the ladies here, she found the subject identification, the PHORID FLY.
That means you, I and everyone else including Jo could not accomplish a simple task suck as bug identification.
This being the case it seems the cumulative work of many pinpointed just one little item that could have been very revealing but that is where it ended as you assume you know everything, the fact of the matter is, you could not even identify a FLY.
Why could you not identify a fly, why, why, why, because you are not a trained in entomology.
Thats perfectly all right, we are in most cases being all we can be!!
The problem is when we THINK we are more than we are and assume all that we envision in our mind are facts, cold hard facts, well Einstien may have been alot of things and very smart in his field, but I imagine he knew nothing about cooking, then thats only a thought, it could be proved wrong by a person more educated about Einstein.
NOW.......
I wanted to ask you just exactly where and how you got the pictures, you never answered that question, sooooooo, I wanted to see if I could develop this phorid fly from a fecal sample in a pristine environment.
My study was flawed. I wanted a more contained environment,
There was also an idea that maybe if we were getting the same exact results we could possibly go further, develop a easy to use way of testing others fecal samples to get like results.
It was impossible to even try to work with you, you THINK you have all the answers so if you have all the answers there are no unknowns, your like GOD you have all the answers, so how could anyone work to find answers with you.
You know whats funny, until I got involved with the entity, the entity, now known as the phorid fly, was not known, we did not know what it was, how could that be that the bug master did not know what bug he was talking about, so if you do not know the bug your trying to explain how can you know how it works, or its life cycle, HOW!
You can not imagine how it works, thats right.
It was either Tonys or itching4answers sister that found the phorid fly identity, go figure.
You provided pictures, the pictures provided a comparison and attention to my own development at my home gave the bug renewed attention, the ladies did the investigation that provided the name of the culprit, and my friend that is when the collaboration stopped as you said something like, they think its a big deal the phoird fly being identified, lets just assume everything else, my assumtions are the last word on the study of this disease and its issues.
Actually identification of possible parasitic entity's is a must to find out its traits.-
For you the ID was wasted time, for me it was the very beginning of proving that this bug MAY actually be able to colonize the human body and thus find out just how these creatures could hamper our existance.
All according to you wasted time, to me no time spent on finding truths is wasted.
Seeing that I could not even get the most simple answers from you I felt it was and is a waste of time trying to work with you.
How can anyone work WITH somebody else that has all the answers, can you provide answers to one who already knows everything, of course you can not.
When they can not see the systemic points of the lesions breakouts on the flesh and say they land on you like little space ships then go from the skin into the body randomly when its quite clear the skin issues show it to be systemic, developing in exact spots on BOTH sides of the body and these places being the same as others locations.
Remember the ladies KNOW who found the identity of that phorid fly and it was NOT YOU or ME, but I am sure in your mind you already knew.
Now that is the story I remember, then you know how I lie, I am a horrible shameless liar and a jealous flater er er.
How is it you felt good about my sincerest form of flattery but now you do not love me anymore, make up my mind am I a flater er or am I just telling it like it is?
Should I come or should I go?
Is the color red always made of the same thing?
There is one thing I feel about the identification of the phorid fly.
That is, your pictures, my attention to my surroundings, the ladies attention to details led us to one truth, one we did not know, the truth was small, but it was atruth, that truth, a bug we were interested in as a parasite is identified, was it PROVED TO BE A PARASITE OF THE HUMAN BODY, NO, that has yet to be established.
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Post by threader on Oct 11, 2012 8:46:08 GMT -5
Thanks for your attention to details. "Particles that seem or possibly could be parasitic " These seemingly small issues you speak about, would you imagine they would be the same for a older very sick subject, baby or child. Would you imagine the situation ending, you see threader, scab is still doing these drugs. I know scabdragger does not pay attention to the fiber load but why not it is a marker of all our symptoms, and really where does it come from if not the disease? I am interested in the outcome thats for sure, are you taking anymore pictures of the excrement and URINE, do not forget the urine and if you can please some pictures of blood. The diabetic testing lance is a great way to get blood. I feel the constipation issue my first week on the treatment could be dangerous to the elderly or children if it wasn't addressed, as I had the feeling that my innards were full of toxins that needed to move through. Now that issue has ended and I'm regular again. Scab's dosage recommendations feel strong but not excessive. I've stopped taking stool photos because it is a gross process, and the same stuff I've already posted continues to come out, they just get bigger and move easier. In particular, the "red, fruit rollup tubes" are really consistent and the red meat chunks are plentiful too. I put one of these meat chunks in a tube of bleach, and another in a tube of sugar water a few days ago. The bleached ones are nothing to see, they dissolved into whitish matter that floats. But the one in sugar water is interesting. It won't float or sink, but constantly remains 2/3 the way up the test tube. It is growing two black spots that are getting bigger and darker. Urine is very yellow/brown, very cloudy. What is the process for getting urine images, drops on slides? Another part of Scab's protocol that I hadn't tried until this morning was the Colgate Max White. I don't have lesions, but do have problem areas of skin where fibers always leave. The toothpaste felt great and left that skin renewed when I rinsed it after 10 mins. I could only find the green gel-like paste with the white crystals. Is this the right stuff Scab or is this the gel you say not to use? The box doesn't call it gel but it sure looks like gel to me.
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