Spooky - a Rife machine for every home

[toni]

Baraka posted:
Toni open your eyes will you, stop being so daft, go back and read please.

Toni posts:
Baraka, my eyes are wide open, and by (your choice of words/daft) , does not make

your point stronger, it actually weakens whatever point you wanted me to see.


Baraka says:
One thinks he is a scientist doctor and he is telling sick people to take unending amounts

of horse drugs, and to give this poison to their CHILDREN, am I crazy?

Toni says: Well, I could say the same about the 35% peroxide
since I don't agree with that protocol.

AND ...I can post a ton of links saying
(why that is REALLY harmful and a CANCER causer).
So everytime you post that, would you
really like everyone posting what a cancer causer that is
right behind your post with the nastiness to go with it?
I don't think you'd like that unless it was presented respectfully.

So..imho, internal poison, or external...who should keep their
mouth shut? And what I mean is "does that give me the right
to ridicule you non stop about something I KNOW causes cancer?
I guess if I wanted to pester you to death...I would, but I
haven't got that desire in me to do that to you.

I don't want to argue with you, that's not why I posted any
of this. I got mad at the same thing happening again,
(a poster leaving), because of the manners or lack of.

I just find it a sad situation when we're already tolerating
so much, and then any added insults "here on the board"
are like asking for the intolerable to be tolerated.

Baraka says:
The other one wants nobody that just does not agree with him to post,

if you do not have anything that agrees with him to say, just do not say anything, sorry.

I was not brought up like that.

Toni says: Nor was I, but we know what sets a problem in
motion and what doesn't, and what's respectful and what's not.

[violet]

Apr 5, 2013 13:46:25 GMT -5 Baraka Obam said:

Baraka posted:
Toni open your eyes will you, stop being so daft, go back and read please.

Toni posts:
Baraka, my eyes are wide open, and by (your choice of words/daft) , does not make

your point stronger, it actually weakens whatever point you wanted me to see.

Baraka writes, that's exactly it, you slandered because I have opinion. I retorted.

Baraka says:
One thinks he is a scientist doctor and he is telling sick people to take unending amounts

of horse drugs, and to give this poison to their CHILDREN, am I crazy?

Toni says: Well, I could say the same about the 35% peroxide
since I don't agree with that protocol.

AND ...I can post a ton of links saying
(why that is REALLY harmful and a CANCER causer).
So every time you post that, would you
really like everyone posting what a cancer causer that is
right behind your post with the nastiness to go with it?
I don't think you'd like that unless it was presented respectfully.

So..imho, internal poison, or external...who should keep their
mouth shut? And what I mean is "does that give me the right
to ridicule you non stop about something I KNOW causes cancer?
I guess if I wanted to pester you to death...I would, but I
haven't got that desire in me to do that to you.

I don't want to argue with you, that's not why I posted any
of this. I got mad at the same thing happening again,
(a poster leaving), because of the manners or lack of.

I just find it a sad situation when we're already tolerating
so much, and then any added insults "here on the board"
are like asking for the intolerable to be tolerated.


Baraka says, You may post what you like this is America, millions of men have died to protect your right to your opinion, it is your right and duty to post against items you think are dangerous, as far as HYDROGEN PEROXIDE 35% causeing cancer, just exactly where did you get that.

It may be funny to see though, Baraka says, HYDROGEN PEROXIDE 35% is like the fires of hell I do not suggest you try such a thing.

Then Toni says, HYDROGEN PEROXIDE 35% is like the fires of hell I do not suggest you try it.

It is your opinion but it is ridiculous, it probably means you did not read what I wrote.

It is funny that doctors give intravenous injections, hmmm. you think they would be limited on doing that. Its really of no concern, its your opinion.

I can not believe you are comparing something that goes on the skin and has a warning with it to a poison taken internally that people are told to take unending amounts of.

That just seems a little daft.

If you say HP35% causes cancer I would like to see the information it would interest me, its a warning, I would THANK YOU.


Baraka says:
The other one wants nobody that just does not agree with him to post,

if you do not have anything that agrees with him to say, just do not say anything, sorry.

I was not brought up like that.

Toni says: Nor was I, but we know what sets a problem in
motion and what doesn't, and what's respectful and what's not.

Baraka says,


My posts are questions, some are answers, but if they do not agree with the poster then it is bulling, sorry that's not the way the world works.

There were cases where I was warned and did not listen and I almost died from stupidity, nobody warned me about Scabs horse meds, I found out on my own that you can become VERY ill from using it and its overuse can destroy organs over time, he suggests just to keep on taking this drug forever, do you see something wrong with that, DO YOU.


It is not the same as comparing hydrogen peroxide used on the flesh as taking HORSE medication

That would be like comparing a speeding ticket to the fellow that shot the baby in the stroller because the mother had no money to give the robber.

That's just the way I see it, this is my opinion, every time he posts on the poison I will post a WARN ING sorry, you may not care about people gobbling horse medications but I do.

I will make you all a deal, you stop scab draggier from posting the Horse medication and I will try to be totally the tree hugger person.

This I promise, Scab stops, I will stop as far as the rest of you go, instead of just blathering out my opinion I will ask you every time if I can interject, I will ask your permission to add my two cents.

I do want you to critique everything I say, I want your honest opinion on how I should express myself.

Maybe just maybe I can become the person you will all say they love, even the Christians, because I know I am gonna have a high fence to jump there.


I just hope my opinion has not infuriated the people that want me to be silent, oh lord please help them have compassion and love me, if not for what I say, for what I do not say.

Lord, I have not cursed, often.

Once again, BO--blind and deaf and not responding to what is the real issue of concern regarding your posts. We have said it LOUD AND CLEAR, and yet you turn a blind eye and deaf ear.

[Baraka Obam]

violet, may I speak, can I, I have something to say, Violet please let me speak.

[Baraka Obam]

Violet?

[Baraka Obam]

I see this attack as no more than gang mentality with a side of who likes who.

I need permission to have a opinion, will somebody say its ok, somebody anybody.

Ok, this just can not wait, I have warned people every time I post something I feel is contrary to being perfectly safe.

Ozone up the bung is given by doctors, its called infusion, still, even though doctors do this I warn it could be dangerous, as far as Hydrogen Peroxide goes I ALWAYS WARN, one, it is not for you because it feels like the fires of hell.

The other items I warn about is the fact that the use of it can out more of the hidden lesions.

If you would like to debate the facts about hydrogen peroxide or ozone I am more than willing to debate.

You may want to do some homework Violet.

Violet also you have said, that your not able to understand what I post, if this is the case why are you upset over things you do not understand?

You have me wondering now if I am handicapped, if you think I am handicapped would you knowingly attack a mentally ill handicapped person?

www.o3center.org/Clinics/UnitedStates/Florida.html

Then there should not be any real debate as I see the use of them as harmful, maybe not in the same ways you would, you most likely have not read about the use or properties of the natural chemical.

I can explain all day that the anger is not my problem it is your problem, if people do not agree with you, then you call names, when you call names then you are open to be critiqued in the same manner.

I must admit Violet I am treating you much better than you have me.

Now, I am going to be the bigger person here and say, you are all right, I am wrong.

It seems it is time for me to give everyone some room, now please do not try to draw me back into this angry disillusion, its hopeless.

Oh, I am sorry if I have disagreed with any of you.

You know what is so funny about CIVILIZED people, they will complain to no end about being intolerent, while they themselves are being intolerent, but they will say nothing about a man that may very well some day kill one of us, old or young, child or baby, thats funny?
Scab draggier your duty to poison is open, get with it brother, poison as many as you can, these people here out of kindness will not stop you.

[toni]

Baraka,

What can I say? except if you choose to believe this is
some "gang thing" then, all I can say is, personally I
see you choose to maintain "status quo", and disregard
any of us who are *asking* you to tone it down a TAD -
which is the sarcasism.

When people LEAVE because of your continous snide comments,
that's not a good sign, wouldn't ya say?


I don't have any bad feelings towards you Baraka, I only
brought up this subject as I said before because
when David left yesterday, it was just like a last straw thing,
that now... MORE people are leaving, and "that" bothered me.

You know what you do, and how you say things things to
people.
Do I want your voice to go away? NOT AT ALL.
You're a morgie, we care, and I care...but not for the sarcasism.
It keeps people away. Is that really what you want, to be
the only one posting? I don't believe you do want that at all.
You just are fed up, like all of us - but we refrain from the sarcasism
for the simple sake of trying to be kind to each other,
so we have a place we can come and relate, communicate
and share.

And if I am not mistaken I have read where you were
telling people to use the 35% peroxide to rid the lesions.
Lately, you've stated it differently, but....you *were*
promoting it.

I feel that promoting something that powerful, 35%
you should really let people know what really happens
when that is used on an open lesion.

Yes, you've said it burns like hell, which that is very
easily assessed at that strength, but...
worse scars would be left on the skin "after using it"
...heck, for that matter why not down a bottle of anything..
if no one is concerned about "what something does to them"
afterwards.

We all know we can jump off a cliff and ALL of our problems
will be instantly gone - but, when trying to fix something, or rid
something, doesn't mean one must ruin something else in order
to fix something.

I know the internet is loaded with "just about any cure
imaginable". I mean I'm sure somewhere there's a cure
of eating peanut butter and jelly mixed together to cure cancer. But...does it really?

When peroxide, (at that strength) is used constantly on
the skin, a couple of things happen.


First let me say, if you're really interested, (over the weekend)
I'll find you some good links on what using it does.

Right now, because I'm crunched for time, I'll give you
these two links (and there's references) you could look up
too.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_peroxide

Hydrogen peroxide:

Following the call by alternative medicine advisors for drinking diluted hydrogen peroxide, and using it in various ways such as in shampoo and as an additive to toothpaste, as a treatment to illness in general and cancer in particular, the
American Cancer Society states that "there is no scientific evidence that hydrogen peroxide is a safe, effective or useful cancer treatment", and advises cancer patients to "remain in the care of qualified doctors who use proven methods of treatment and approved clinical trials of promising new treatments."[51]

Intravenous usage of hydrogen peroxide has been linked to several deaths.[52][53]

This all can be verified, and as I said, I'll give you "more
reputable links, (this one I found fast, cause I'm in a hurry)
but one can check these references out
below (in the link).

And since the American Cancer Society says this, IF
we choose to not believe anything we read anymore,
then why ever again read anything at all?


Here's another:

cancer.ucsd.edu/treatments/cam/therapies/Pages/hydrogen-peroxide.aspx


What has been proven about the benefit of hydrogen peroxide treatment?

According the American Cancer Society, there is no scientific evidence that hydrogen peroxide is a safe, effective or useful cancer treatment.

Current mainstream medical applications of hydrogen peroxide are limited to 1.5% to 3% solutions used as surface disinfectants and wound cleansers.

What is the potential risk or harm of hydrogen peroxide treatment?

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention report that hydrogen peroxide solutions concentrated above ten percent are toxic.

It can be harmful to breathe vapors, ingest or have skin contact with hydrogen peroxide. Hydrogen peroxide ingestion can also result in chemical burns in the throat and severe poisoning.

I'm sorry this post is so long, but...there's lots more,
the part about how continous use of peroxide "KILLS cells"
that are needed to repair a wound. When a wound on the
skin is douced in peroxide...(our meat/the cells) will die with
continous use.
Those are the "same cells" one needs to heal the skin.
So, what happens when the surrounding cells are killed off?
The skin heals scarred.

I'm ONLY trying to say (there really ARE alternatives to it),
that will do the same thing, maybe even better, yet it won't
kill needed healthy cells.

Anyways, I'll get you (the good links over the weekend)
and if you say (what I'm thinking you MIGHT) say, it is
about what CDC says, and I am full aware of how we
have 0 faith in them.


But, (peroxide has been around for while now) and
I'm sure if you look hard enough, you can find references
too, that will show you, it's not something to use daily
especially on an open wound (unless one doesn't mind
some bad scarring left afterwards).
(And anything over 10% is TOXIC), and you use 35%
on your skin.
If I didn't care, I'd not say anything.

I know when we get hung up on our "protocols" we can
become very passionate about them, but please for your
own sake, read about how toxic it really is (with continous)
use on an open wound (the lesions).

And...my point to ALL of this is, can you imagine me running
after every post you've made (everywhere on the internet)
about 35% peroxide, and IF I said that YOU BARAKA are out
to scar people up, and make them worse than they already
are with something so toxic.

THAT is the sarcasm we get, when you don't agree.


Could I say that information differently. hahhaa of course I can.
I could leave the part out about ridiculing YOU, and simply post
facts if I don't agree.

The contention here is, YOU leave the sarcasim in,
and lots of us really don't like that part.

[Baraka Obam]

FIRST OFF i DO NOT SUGGEST THE USE OF HYDROGEN PEROXIDE BY ANYONE AT ALL, AND I WARN PEOPLE THAT IT IS NOT A VIABLE TREATMENT FOR THEM.

I USE IT NOT ONLY TO GIVE ME LASTING RESULTS I ALSO USE IT TO UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT THE LESIONS AND THEIR PARTS, WITHOUT HYDROGEN PEROXIDE I WOULD NOT HAVE KNOWN HOW MUCH OF THIS FILTH HIDES UNDER THE SKIN DOING ITS DIRTY DEED AND THE SYSTEMIC CONNECTIONS THE LESIONS HAVE.

Do not mind the big letters they are there for attention not screaming. ATTENTION

I would suggest you read this over and over again until you understand it because every time you post you relent to thing not as they are, not as they have been said to you, but as you seem fit to understand them.

NOW, you really have gone out of the way to attack Hydrogen Peroxide 35% because you imagine this stuff is near and dear to my heart,

Your grasping at straw.

I have ingested and taken Hydrogen peroxide internally and used it on the lesion.

Your idea that it leaves or could leave scars is your lack of use of it.

I have used Hydrogen Peroxide probably 10 THOUSAND times
on spots and lesions. The lesions do leave white spots after the mass is gone, then we have seen the people with this disease they are covered in white spots.

I have ingested the hydrogen peroxide and found out quite quickly it was NOT for me, that was not before leaving a large cup full of it on the counter and gulping it down as water.

You would think it would burn the throat but it did not, this was 35% HP in a glass, down the throat, I was sure I was gonna die, this is funny to me now but not funny then.

Seems I did live, this one instance of feeling the horror of killing ones self actually spurred me on to warning people all the time about this and other problems.

You see I am not the first to drink a cup of 35% hydrogen peroxide, I was warned, yes I was, but I did not listen. I knew better.

There are other items that also almost killed me, I do not post about them at all. I will never do that, anyway the risk is not worth the results.

HP is a product from nature, 35%HP is a product of man.

I am not the one that needs to read up on HYDROGEN PEROXIDE, you are, and if you decide to read all the negative posts your perception will be negative, I read negative and positive so you will show me nothing new there.

Gang you need to know, when you post anything I do read it, I read it all, then I will do some homework positive and negative aspects of.

When someone comes to this or any other site I go to and posts ALL POSITIVE I feel it is my duty to add some iffy and what if.

You can see that now by my posts about hydrogen peroxide and GSE, GSE will set you on fire also if used incorrectly, it is a long and extremely painful experience, you would not like it on a scalp the has this invader in it, but a scalp with no invade will not react at all.

How did I find this out, by living in hell on this earth.

You could not pay me to go through that again, but I do not need to right now I can take 100% uncut GSE and put it on my SCALP without a problem. Do I suggest anyone else does it, NO.

I do not want to hear you went to the hospital because you did not listen to direction to curtail this.

Last but not least, the AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY, OMG, they are like a band of doctors that control cancer treatments, how do you see that as going right now.

I need my hands and toes to count close friends and family members that are dead now because of the rush to treat, cut, burn and poison.

The powers that be have been doing this same thing since Roman times, they would use a hot poker to burn away cancer growths, that probably worked better than radiation. The would cut them open and insert poison, a quicker way to get to the happy hunting ground then Chemotherapy.

Until you people get a leg up on this is not a popularity contest and see the fact of the matter, MAYBE some times I come off a little harsh, but it is a fact that the name calling starts from the other side, why, because I present the negative when only the positive side is supplied.

Toni, you have supplied the negative side of hydrogen peroxide, I am not even a proponent of the stuff even though without it I would have killed myself. Then you can not see that I am not a proponent and do provide warnings.

There was a man in Canada he was covered with lesions, he climbed to the top of a bridge crying, he was never going to get better, he spoke about Morgellons and the doctors saying he was insane and would not help him.

Then the man jumped to his death, if nobody else here could help that man heal his lesions, I know I can, what would be the cost, a whole lotta pain, so much pain he would wonder why he did not jump while he was already up there,

Your right Toni, hydrogen Peroxide 35% is not the answer, its not a cure, but it will destroy lesions.

My question for myself was bullet or pain, I chose pain.

There is so much more to the story you do not know, and I will not post about that either.

To me it seems none of you remember how much money was sucked out of you in the beginning of this disease, some of us will literally end of living in the street, can they afford every so called new idea, no they can not.

Bully you say. I am more worried about the people with limited funds being sucked into the one sided ideas than any of you, it would be nice if you all took part in trying to protect others that may read this site.

Get off your soap box and actually think about what is being said, I know some of you imagine this is a meeting place but its more than that, its a web site people come to for help.

Lets just say, a person that just has the lesion come out all over them nothing happens, they read what I posted that says, this is not for you, it is the fire of hell, so he skips my treatment, then he goes on to Daves Coconut oil treatment and finds it does not work for him, no funds really lost, simple safe, the only issue, mess, I know this and Dave knows it, we both did it.

So now he goes on another very expensive situation like a hyperbaric bag, because I say this and that its a miracle the bag can not be beat, there is nothing like it and spends $10,000, he sells his car, stops paying on his home, he and his family are thrown into the street and he has never shown any at all improvement.

When I posted about the hyperbaric chamber there was a instant disagreement about it, the thing made me feel better, it at first gave me super headaches, but certainly was nothing worth $10,000 even though many other lyme people swear by the hyperbaric chamber.

The fact of the matter, the person that attacked the use of hyperbaric soft side units was right and wrong, still they assumed they knew it all, they did not, the bag helped but was cost prohibitive and not anywhere near the results attained by the real thing.

A real hyperbaric chamber with pure oxygen, is the ticket, some day I may build one, maybe.

My point, if nobody tells people the plus and minus attributes of items they will blindly go and do whatever the only positive posters say to go.

Where in the world is the NUTRA SILVER HUCKSTER that alone cost me $1500 want me to tell you about it or would you rather pay for it yourself.

If you want a start to try it I can send you some for FREE as I have others that do not believe its limited to less than useful.

[toni]

I just read your post Baraka.

Can you see that "we are off the subject" for which this
even began?

All the writing in the world isn't going to "change the
fact that you're sarcastic when you don't agree" with
someone.

THAT really is all this is about.

[Baraka Obam]

Sorry Toni you are WRONG , I am sarcastic after they become mad that I question the validity of their only positive post and they start with the name calling, they do not disscuss the point they call names..

Then they call names and I return actually less then they have given.

Just like your attack here, accusing me of this and that, I do not need to go back and reap them all together do I.

I do not like to be told, especially when I know I am correct, sorry.

That may work with your husband and maybe your children but darling I am neither.

Did I say somthing wrong, did I, well just go back and go over all you said wrong.

I agree with you, I am sarcastic to people that have formed opinions that one sided and incorrect and attack because of a PREVIOUS post not agreeing with them.

Remember now, i am the one that reads all of their posts, all, your just guessing who starts the issue.

Are you done, i was going away.

[lostintime]

ladies and gentlemen from my read of this post I see a couple things wrong here. I see baraka pointing out his distrust for the rife mech. and know he points out problems with things he does not agree with. So far that’s fine, I have done this several times myself when I see profiteers. I have a friend that bought the rife setup and used it correctly for a long time. It is now in the closet with the other things he has tried.
I guess I see rife as phsyco therapy shock treatments used in mental institutions in the 40’s. This is based on the pretence that the person is just not thinking clearly and if we shock him just the right way for the right amount of time we could get you thinking more clearly. This is text book psychiatry. In other words brought to you by the people that think your all nuts. So today it is software. We have been through so much to think a software program is going to cure you? Well good luck with that. I know Braka thinks somewhat like I do about folks coming her to promote a product claiming it will fix the incurable. Beraka may come off as abrasive at times but we all have some anger issues. I like reading barakas post, Some I agree with and some I don’t.
I do see little clicks on the boards that think one way or another. We all don’t have to believe the same things and it has become accustom to criticize things you don’t believe in.
I have read Davids pages and there really all over the map. I have no problem with that. Its his page and can write what he wants.
I do look after the new people here that come desperately looking for help and monitor profiteers off my illness. Truth be told, nobody has ever been cured of morgellons and may never will. I know there are lots of people out there that don’t want to here it but that is the facts.
Everyone needs to take a deep breath and treed lightly into new things. If you have money to burn go right ahead, but if you don’t I can bet you there are others that have.

I did want to ask a question, what is all the light or in the light or love in the light stuff? Is that something they say in Europe? Don’t understand it but see it around here a lot. Please explain.

[scabdraggr]

The [osts are always about Bo, he makes certain of that in order to take the focus away from the points that are posted. He only wishes for a baby like himself to have all the attention upon himself and so all subjects about m and lyme drift away so that no progress is made but that he gets his attention. Selfish, spoiled and narcisstic! The truth can be posted but not if it is subverted by big letters and attacks from someone that has never contributed to the facts and the research. If one cannot contribute then they need to get out of the way.
those that suffer horribly and wish to come here for some knowledge, leave hurt and disillusioned due to being demeanored by a baby that thinks only of ways to suppress knowledge and how to hurt those that need some comfort and understanding, which he always stops from occurring..

[violet]

Apr 6, 2013 7:52:52 GMT -5 scabdraggr said:

The [osts are always about Bo, he makes certain of that in order to take the focus away from the points that are posted. He only wishes for a baby like himself to have all the attention upon himself and so all subjects about m and lyme drift away so that no progress is made but that he gets his attention. Selfish, spoiled and narcisstic! The truth can be posted but not if it is subverted by big letters and attacks from someone that has never contributed to the facts and the research. If one cannot contribute then they need to get out of the way.
those that suffer horribly and wish to come here for some knowledge, leave hurt and disillusioned due to being demeanored by a baby that thinks only of ways to suppress knowledge and how to hurt those that need some comfort and understanding, which he always stops from occurring..

I've often thought it's like pre-teen behavior in his posts--denials and tantrums and lack of maturity. I believe he has the psychosis of a "crazymaker." Check out that term, and you will find it describes BO perfectly. It's unfortunate that we have to talk about him like this, but it's a situation he has actually put himself in. He has no one to blame but himself. We've offered over and over to forgive him and befriend him, regardless of how he has treated us, but he makes that impossible. The Board has become so dysfunctional that the only resolution is that he be banned. This may sound harsh, but sometimes life calls for harshness when it's warranted, in order to keep it healthy. I don't feel good having to take this stance with him, as I wouldn't with anyone. But as I say, he has made the decision to act out over and over, and that puts us in the position of having to do something about it. He's had chance after chance after chance of people forgiving him and reaching out to befriend him.

The final straw for me came after I took the time to post information about questions he had regarding God, and he threw it all on the ground and stomped on it. I spent four years in Bible college and a lifetime of learning about and experiencing and serving the Lord. What I presented him were facts about Christianity from an educated background. It hurt not only me, deeply, but it was offensive to see him once again speak negatively toward the One I love most in life and who doesn't deserve that kind of talk. I finally have "dusted off my feet and moved on" as regards him, and I'm no longer "casting my pearls among swine," as the Lord told us in the Bible.

[violet]

Apr 6, 2013 5:38:58 GMT -5 lostintime said:

ladies and gentlemen from my read of this post I see a couple things wrong here. I see baraka pointing out his distrust for the rife mech. and know he points out problems with things he does not agree with. So far that’s fine, I have done this several times myself when I see profiteers. I have a friend that bought the rife setup and used it correctly for a long time. It is now in the closet with the other things he has tried.
I guess I see rife as phsyco therapy shock treatments used in mental institutions in the 40’s. This is based on the pretence that the person is just not thinking clearly and if we shock him just the right way for the right amount of time we could get you thinking more clearly. This is text book psychiatry. In other words brought to you by the people that think your all nuts. So today it is software. We have been through so much to think a software program is going to cure you? Well good luck with that. I know Braka thinks somewhat like I do about folks coming her to promote a product claiming it will fix the incurable. Beraka may come off as abrasive at times but we all have some anger issues. I like reading barakas post, Some I agree with and some I don’t.
I do see little clicks on the boards that think one way or another. We all don’t have to believe the same things and it has become accustom to criticize things you don’t believe in.
I have read Davids pages and there really all over the map. I have no problem with that. Its his page and can write what he wants.
I do look after the new people here that come desperately looking for help and monitor profiteers off my illness. Truth be told, nobody has ever been cured of morgellons and may never will. I know there are lots of people out there that don’t want to here it but that is the facts.
Everyone needs to take a deep breath and treed lightly into new things. If you have money to burn go right ahead, but if you don’t I can bet you there are others that have.

I did want to ask a question, what is all the light or in the light or love in the light stuff? Is that something they say in Europe? Don’t understand it but see it around here a lot. Please explain.

I've actually wondered about the same thing. Not sure if it has to do with our "being in the light as He is in the light," or whether it may be more of a New Age thing. I'd love to know, too.

[Baraka Obam]

BB,

I hope you do not get mad and call names, I hope you can agree to disagree,

Where is there anything said about electroshock therapy killing parasites, or that insane people have parasites.

My grandmother had electroshock, it was not a nice thing to view, it had effect but this effect was very short lived.

It was torture to my grandmother.

I would agree any alternative that is lasting with superior results is worth a try but so far, with our disease there is very little pointing towards finding the magic bullet.

Now if nobody calls me troll, stupid, a shill or the many other names for providing information that contradicts their ideas everything will be just fine.

endofshock.com/101i%20brochure%20on%20deaths%203-29.pdf

endofshock.com/101i%20brochure%20on%20deaths%203-29.pdf

[Baraka Obam]

If you watch the posts very closely you will find that is exactly what I do untill someone becomes nasty or or aggressive to a dissenting opinion.

Watch closely.

Oh, I forgot, I did ask you for information proving the connection to electroshock and parasites in the brain could you provide that please.

[Baraka Obam]

When I go to Ecuador if I get bit by a snake I will remember the spark plug trick thats for sure, LOL.

www.health-science-spirit.com/electromag.html

[scabdraggr]

Bo is a controller, a hired individual that is here to misdirect the observations of the many intelligent and capable individuals that have visited this site. He's military and they likely pay him through the AFIP.
His stories are likely picked from other posts or simply made up. His plagiarism of others posts and terms gives him away. He has brought nothing to the table but he has taken it all away. That is his job!

Wake up my fellow sufferers, he's having a ball because once again we have failed to overcome his ability to subvert the observations that many come here to speak about. I have so many questions to ask others that are in the background, waiting for BO to slither back to his lair.
If we can't overcome this TROLL, then never will be be able as a unit to progress enough to share in the truth about what it is that has happened to us. I for one will not stop until the message has been delivered. The research groups are only looking for a treatment, which we already have, so I find their position unacceptable. Is the cause of this disease so horrible and so made by man that the story can never be told? The agency that BO works for, certainly believes that the truth and facts should never be revealed. I do not search for anarchy and I do not wish to spread fear, I simply wish for the truth to be shared by all that have been used up and left to fend for themselves.
The Scabdraggr is a MAN and only GOD has control over my being. Others may try to hurt me and to silence my words, as they have already been doing. We have this horrible individual right in front of us that is hurting our cause but if we can't deal a blow to him, then how do we ever expect to overcome M and LYME? He's laughing at all of us!

[Baraka Obam]

Apr 6, 2013 16:03:27 GMT -5 scabdraggr said:

Bo is a controller, a hired individual that is here to misdirect the observations of the many intelligent and capable individuals that have visited this site. He's military and they likely pay him through the AFIP.
His stories are likely picked from other posts or simply made up. His plagiarism of others posts and terms gives him away. He has brought nothing to the table but he has taken it all away. That is his job!

Wake up my fellow sufferers, he's having a ball because once again we have failed to overcome his ability to subvert the observations that many come here to speak about. I have so many questions to ask others that are in the background, waiting for BO to slither back to his lair.
If we can't overcome this TROLL, then never will be be able as a unit to progress enough to share in the truth about what it is that has happened to us. I for one will not stop until the message has been delivered. The research groups are only looking for a treatment, which we already have, so I find their position unacceptable. Is the cause of this disease so horrible and so made by man that the story can never be told? The agency that BO works for, certainly believes that the truth and facts should never be revealed. I do not search for anarchy and I do not wish to spread fear, I simply wish for the truth to be shared by all that have been used up and left to fend for themselves.
The Scabdraggr is a MAN and only GOD has control over my being. Others may try to hurt me and to silence my words, as they have already been doing. We have this horrible individual right in front of us that is hurting our cause but if we can't deal a blow to him, then how do we ever expect to overcome M and LYME? He's laughing at all of us!

BB and the rest of you, this is what has been going on, how many names did this fellow call me.

Anyway, BB I am quite aware of the damage parasites can cause if they are present.

Still nobody has proved without a doubt, what if any parasites are involved in our issues.

I did after scoping my urine for years find a parasite in my urine inside a fiber.

That was only one parasite, I took Ivermectin because of thisand have never seen another, it does not mean I am free from infestation.

If I only find one its hard to tell if this is a infestation or what, still I have said 100 times where there is 1 there are usually hundreds of thousands to millions.

Then my question had to be, how could I get more like this, I never found a way, when a parasite so small that it can live inside a fiber presents itself you may find it, when it is dead you will never find it.

Anyway you will not find it with my university student quality microscope.

The facts do not support our disease as a parasite or bugs, they have not been seen EN MASSE on the surface of the skin, in the urine, blood or excrement.

With so many sufferers gathered her together we would by now have conclusive evidence by now, I would imagine.

[threader]

If B.O. turns out to be a gov't shill, this would surprise me about as much as discovering Morgs are all just a delusion in my head. Almost zero probability.

B.O. does bring some really good observations to the table. They are usually his posts regarding contagion and incidence. I'm not sure about his GSE stuff, because I realize he is very right about it exposing the mess, but I learned quickly I'm not ready for exposure.

Hopefully this thread will serve as a wake-up to you, B.O., regarding the trolling of other's posts. You also propose theories and observations that are not standard, even within this fringe community. This doesn't mean they are false; it's quite possible that you are just in a position to observe what others are unaware of.

So exercise some sensitivity in your posting so as not to stifle potential developments. This doesn't mean you can't argue or encourage proofs.

Scab is not poisoning babies and you are not part of a gov't conspiracy. Carry on with civil dialog please, this disease is too serious to be wasting time with these personality conflicts.

[Baraka Obam]

Wait just a minute here.

Threader you know as well as I do that I caution everyone.

I cautioned you about the use of GSE,

While there may be a way to use it to beat back the growing of the lesion material under the skin without exposing the lesions, still I warned you not to use as I asked your situation with working and your lesion condition.

If your skin was not lesion filled there is no reason for me to take a chance that you will have to go into hiding because you do not listen to warnings.

The lesions are litter ally the worst part of this disease, if you can not go out without people gasping your life is in the pits, I would rather be dead than stay like that.

NOW, this is what scabdragger did to me, if he did it too me he will do it to you and he will do it to anyone else.

I saw some of the items scabdragger was showing in his pictures that peaked my curiosity, the large yellow masses and other colon trinkets, so I contacted him for information on how much and how to take this HORSE medication.

The directions were all over the map, I had to send him about 6 at least PMs on MDR on exactly what to do.

It seemed by the PMs that he did not want to clarify the use, that concerned me.

While taking this drug the first half of the tube did not bother me, the second half was a horror show of kidney issues and I became very ill.

Even though I told scabdragger this he suggested taking more of this stuff after taking enough of it for a HORSE, then I asked him, JUST HOW LONG DO YOU TAKE THIS.

There seemed to be no end and he wanted me to take also another type of HORSE medication to boot.

I think Threader you are a fellow that trys to be honest in what you say, you said that this stuff did make you sick and if I remember you put a note in one of your posts saying no scabdrager you would not continue, you were going to take a break from it.

I was pretty sure from this that he was trying to get you to continue just like me even though you said you had concerns.

Then when I confronted him online about telling mothers to give this stuff to their children, (Quote) he said well what would you do if these children were close to dying.

Now, I am sorry, all of you that do not see the difference, I see the difference, if you want to gobble down tubes and tubes of this horse medication, go ahead you have been warned as you are reading this right NOW, I wish you would just start right off gobbling it down to prove just how dangerous this kind of idea can be.

I would like one of you that will never respect caution to be the test dummy of unending use of HORSE DRUGS UNAPPROVED FOR HUMAN USE until your organs fail, I warned you.

I have noticed this type of human always comes back to me and says after warnings and they get the results warned about they will say, WHY DIDN"T YOU TELL ME.

It used to make me mad but now I just see it as divine Provence.

You can not save the world from its self, you can not educate the unwilling to your follies they must it seems feel the pain or suffer great bodily harm before they realize.

Ten times the amount of drugs that would be used to treat a full sized horse should not be gobbled down like candy by a human no matter what anyone says.

Quite litter ally I see this kind of treatment the same as giving unknowing sick people unknown to them radiation treatments in the 1950s.

When the doctors were asked why they did this to people he said, well with the climate of things as they were at the time it seemed like a good idea !!!!!

OMG, they poisoned the people without their knowing because it seemed like a good idea.

Scabdragger does not know what the outcome of the overuse of these HORSE DRUGS, but it seems like a good idea.

this form of treatment is not a protocol it is a poisoning.

Now for those of you that have not realized yet, this right here, MY OPINION is what causes THESE people to become mad and call names, I am sorry you can not see it as it happens time and time again.

That is when I will bash them with sarcasm, when they call names.

You know the funny thing it seems like many of you are like the people in the past I have warned, in their quest to be right and all knowing they can only read and understand either what they want to hear and know.

At this point they will try to say this post is sarcastic, when litter ally a thinking person would see it is not.

The offended by these truths will then call names and try to make it seem like there is something sinister in TRUTH and OPINION, that is all this post contains.

Sorry it does not please you, I was not born to please anyone.

Love , peace and all that, safety and concern for newbies comes way before your idea of what you seem fit for me to post.

Now I could be sarcastic right now because my blood is boiling and I want to throttle somebody, but I will just take a walk and enjoy the effects of nature, maybe hug a tree and talk to the animals.

Anybody need to learn how to talk with squirrels or communicate with or put lizards to sleep, hmmmmm, LOL.

Thank you, thank you very much.

Oh, if you find something sarcastic in this post PLEASE tell me what it is, opinion or sarcasm, lets see some realize..

I think this is a good idea in every post I shall ask what could be put better so it does not seem mean or offensive to anyones person, yes, I am reinvented now.