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Post by Baraka Obam on Sept 27, 2014 9:50:35 GMT -5
Its just beautiful out today, cold weather is upon us, this is a great time to deal with the arm and leg lesions as nobody can see them when you have long sleeves and long pants on..
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Post by itchin4answers on Sept 27, 2014 16:33:37 GMT -5
Its just beautiful out today, cold weather is upon us, this is a great time to deal with the arm and leg lesions as nobody can see them when you have long sleeves and long pants on.. I'm on holiday in the sun. Not a good day for me I was attacked by a dog yesterday. I got no help from the ER. Not happy. Lucky I have learnt to control mental torture down to a dull roar. My right index finger has been bitten clean through in two places. I don't faint easy and didn't, though staggered and feel against the brick work of the house still conscioua. Then collapsed to the ground, then started to seizure. The bite felt like I'd been STABBED with a steel pole, the crush was horrific and I'm still in shock. Going to a doctor today, I need a dressing. I washed my finger with water, sprayed Kleen Green and soap and water since then.
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Post by itchin4answers on Sept 27, 2014 21:05:42 GMT -5
Its just beautiful out today, cold weather is upon us, this is a great time to deal with the arm and leg lesions as nobody can see them when you have long sleeves and long pants on.. I'm on holiday in the sun. Not a good day for me I was attacked by a dog yesterday. I got no help from the ER. Not happy. Lucky I have learnt to control mental torture down to a dull roar. My right index finger has been bitten clean through in two places. I don't faint easy and didn't, though staggered and feel against the brick work of the house still conscioua. Then collapsed to the ground, then started to seizure. The bite felt like I'd been STABBED with a steel pole, the crush was horrific and I'm still in shock. Going to a doctor today, I need a dressing. I washed my finger with water, sprayed Kleen Green and soap and water since then. I was attended to by a nice doctor, this morning, at the clinic I attended the other day. I have shingles too, so needed anti-virals. The doctor was ok with no tetanus shot my jaw hasn't locked yet, he was ok with my cleaning the wound with Hydrogen Peroxide 3% and put a dressing straight on it. He had a nice lady doctor with him she was from Iraq. I said "they breed them beautiful over there, the women that is". I have to have an x-ray tomorrow. I will be surprised if the barking slipper hasn't crushed my bones. That is how the pain felt. I didn't look at my finger until in the ER when I became totally un well and somewhat abusive so left of my own accord. Told the triage nurse to stick her "Lyme disease is not reocgnised in Australia and will have no effect on what just happened to you"...where the sun don't shine. The security guard was lovely, I left the ER of my own accord. On the way out I chatted to the guard about the dog attack. He asked me about Lyme disease. Have to take Augmentin and Panadeine Forte has been prescribed. I think a tank would be a better pain killer right now.
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Post by itchin4answers on Sept 28, 2014 20:10:01 GMT -5
My finger this morning. Just had x-ray and will find out later if any bones are broken.
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Post by itchin4answers on Sept 28, 2014 21:21:07 GMT -5
Its just beautiful out today, cold weather is upon us, this is a great time to deal with the arm and leg lesions as nobody can see them when you have long sleeves and long pants on..
My first selfie - I took last night - yes panadeine forte lol the right side of my face is worst than the left. You can see the hidden involvement on my face and the white scars. See my red nose.
From the Mouths of Babes video my son turned the camera on me. I was not ready for that. I never told my son what to say. I was extremely curious to see a child's view point through his eyes.
I never had a bump in my nose nor dints. The hidden involvement became an issue in my face in 1998.
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Post by itchin4answers on Sept 29, 2014 0:32:37 GMT -5
My finger this morning. Just had x-ray and will find out later if any bones are broken. Yippee!! no broken bones.
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Post by itchin4answers on Oct 12, 2014 21:26:14 GMT -5
HEALTH TIP: Hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) ranks up there as one of the best household remedies. Hydrogen peroxide is one of the few “miracle substances” still available to the general public; it is safe, readily available, and dirt cheap. And best of all, it works! Did you know that you probably had your first sip of hydrogen peroxide shortly after you took your first breath? That’s right… mother’s milk (especially colostrum) contains extremely high concentrations of H2O2. In light of the fact that we know that one of the main functions of mother’s milk is to activate and stimulate the immune system in the infant, the fact that it contains abnormally large amounts of H2O2 makes sense. As far back as the early nineteenth century, hydrogen peroxide was widely used in medicine. Many bacterial diseases (including syphilis) responded to H2O2 when no other treatment was effective. In the early twentieth century, H2O2 was used to treat several common diseases, such as whooping cough, cholera, typhoid fever, ulcers, tuberculosis, and asthma. However, as the pharmaceutical industry began to develop expensive, new drugs, hydrogen peroxide was increasingly ignored and finally discarded as a treatment. H2O2 stimulates natural killer (NK) cells, which attack cancer cells as they attempt to spread throughout the body. In the body’s immune response, hydrogen peroxide is released by T-cells to destroy invading bacteria, viruses and fungi. Blood platelets release hydrogen peroxide on encountering particulates in blood. In the large intestine, acidophilus lactobacillus produces H2O2 which keeps the ubiquitous candida yeast from multiplying out of control. When candida spreads out of the intestine, it escapes the natural control system and can gain a foothold in the organs of the body, causing what is called chronic fatigue syndrome. During flu season, if the kiddos feel like they’re getting sick, we lay them down on their side and put a few drops of hydrogen peroxide into their ear. After a few seconds, the liquid will bubble, indicating that it is killing the infection. After 5 or 10 minutes, we turn them over and repeat on the other ear. No one yet fully understands the complete workings of hydrogen peroxide, but we do know that it is loaded with oxygen. We know that when H2O2 is taken into the body (orally or intravenously) the oxygen content of the blood and body tissues increases dramatically. Hydrogen peroxide can also be used as a natural bleach to whiten clothes, as a spray to kill foot fungus, as a nasal spray to fight sinus infections, as an effective and inexpensive mouthwash, along with baking soda for natural toothpaste, and along with vinegar to create a non-toxic disinfecting agent. In tests run at Virginia Tech, the combination of H2O2 and vinegar (used as a spray mist) kills virtually all salmonella and E. coli bacteria on heavily contaminated food and surfaces. Please remember that the hydrogen peroxide that is available at your local pharmacy (3% hydrogen peroxide) should NEVER be ingested orally, since it contains many stabilizers. The only grade recommended for internal use is 35% Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide, which must be properly diluted down to 3% with water. I personally use hydrogen peroxide each night before bed as a rinse and also a natural teeth whitener. www.cancertruth.net
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Post by toni on Oct 15, 2014 12:47:43 GMT -5
Well, hello again Itchin, hehe
toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/sis/search/a?dbs+hsdb:@term+@docno+547
I'm glad your finger is getting better, that sure was a bad incident.
The link above is all about Hydrogen Peroxide....as we all know "how great it is" as a disinfectant. It's the best one I've found yet - *the link that is*.
I do believe, (my SEEMING) quirky about the use of peroxide has been completely misconstrued and I do want to help clear up the misunderstanding of it's use, (because I DO GIVE A HOOT)...honest....or I'd NOT waste my time, I don't have extra. That sounded like I was on my way out, and I AM here to say...(nope, I'm moving on in MY LIFE FINALLY) - Morgs took enough! And life is so flippin great I can't stand it, hehahha Like I said, Morgs RAPED AND STOLE FROM ME. It doesn't get my life anymore. And I PRAY for the day (I hear YOU SAY THAT TOO).
Peroxide is one of the BEEEEST disinfectants.
Peroxide DOES cause DNA protein damage ( WITH CONSISTENT USE)...topically and internally. But, we don't drown ourselves in it, BUT, some use it daily (((( topically )))))). AND as a woman, I don't think you want (those extra goodies ontop of morgs). I ONLY SAY THAT BECAUSE it's the way I think. I don't want scars...and the BEST part is, NO ONE has to be left with them IF they treat this shyte properly FROM THE GET GO.
BUT IF ONE IS USING PEROXIDE * here's the key* ....if they use it CONSISTENTLY ON A TOPICAL WOUND.....
they will THEN BE LEFT WITH A SCAR.
That is all I have said ALL along about peroxide.
So, bottom line is....if one doesn't care if they're scared up, then use peroxide topically and repeated.
The protein damage peroxide does ((( when USED TOPICALLY and CONSISTENTLY ))) guarantees one will be left with a scar.
See? It's IMPOSSIBLE NOT to scar.
You have to be GENTLE with your topical skin, AND not cause repeated oxidation (that's what the peroxide will do)....or that means scars.
If you CARE for (the cells in your skin) they'll heal like nothing ever happened. If one RUFFS up and damages their skin during a lesion, then one WILL scar.
THAT is the ONLY reason I am against REPEATED USE TOPICALLY of hydrogen peroxide.
I hope it's clear about me and peroxide. I like it. But...only for use INITIALLY on a wound...and not repeated use on the same spot. Because I personally don't like scars, and the GREATEST part of even going through 100 billion lesions over the last 10 years, is...NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW...I'm not marred from it, and I HAVE ONLY SHARED HOW ***** NOT**** TO SCAR.
So, peroxide, yes...it's a great disinfectant, but...there are other ways to clean a wound "REPEATEDLY" by using something other (repeatly than peroxide that will CAUSE THE scar).
There's just no other way I can say this about "me and peroxide". It's been misconstrued....because I THOUGHT no one would WANT to be left with these battle ass wounds. I sure don't anyways.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Oct 15, 2014 14:01:10 GMT -5
That is REALLY FUNNY TONI, a woman that states she has used hydrogen peroxide 35% but has no scars, LOL.
How do you KNOW that hydrogen peroxide is antiseptic, there have been articles negative to that aspect, do you have a LABORATORY.
I do not have a LABORATORY, what I do have is a body that I practiced my HP35% VOODOO on several thousand times,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
You state you have no scars but have used hydrogen peroxide 35% which is it
I have used it THOUSANDS of times topically, used it all over my face continually and heavily, seems my face skin has done nothing but profit from it.
So I guess you know better because you read a doctors site that has never used it and/or others that have not followed through destroying the whole hidden growth beneath the skin..
The fact of the matter, white scars are the plastic like material generated above and below the lesion to protect itself from the immune system.
When the lesion material is taken out there is a very THICK white plastic material that is pushed up to the surface by the body, this is the layer that was under the lesion material, in the middle of this plastic like white stuff you can see the red spot right in the center that used to feed the red glowing hard caviar looking material that was sandwiched in the middle of the plastic material covered with what some call fake skin.
There is a possibility the white material is not seen as dangerous and is not dissolved by the body, probably because it is one of the bodys material, keratin.
NOW, many people have developed these so called scars without any use of 35% hydrogen peroxide, so what is it, its one thing or another, scar, I doubt this very much.
After all, you can look at people just a little harder and you will see the masses are covered with these white spots, are they tiny scars, LOL, yeah right.
Like I have said, I used the HP35% THOUSANDS of times and have found only in LONG term use the best results.
So who are you gonna imagine knows, the thousands of times user or the rumor mill director, LOL.
Oh by the way I do not suggest anyone do anything internally, although if you do make sure you stick with ( if a little is enough than a little is enough), Instead of the freaks of nature opinion (if a little is enough more is better), that can damage organs, so beware or internal use of anything.
Just my opinion, LOL. Kisses darlings.
Let me ask you people something, would you bring your old car to the young and highly sophisticated auto mechanic just out of school or a old man mechanic that has been doing his job all of his life.
In my observations, new mechanics throw parts at a repair, guessing that it is this or that and try to beat the clock on work time by prying and damaging away something that should have been removed unhooking all your wires and leave them sitting, that is what Toni is right now, she is a person that did not take the time to actually know what she is talking about.
Sorry Toni, how does it feel to be WRONG, I can say that with confidence because I know you are wrong!
I do have pictures of uncovering with GRAPEFRUIT SEED EXTRACT, AND THEN GOING AFTER WHAT HAS BEEN UNCOVERED WITH HP35%.
People are amazed when I tell them I am 60, then that's what good living will get you, LOL. Many times I have been told my skin was better than theirs and they were 20 something, so, scar's really Toni, Really?
When done I have set back the hands of time, the underskin invader, and the wrinkles in my skin, the invader causes.
You know when blow hards spew their unknowledgeable waste into conversation it causes a huge amount of harm, not only to a tried and true way of eradicating the lesions but also for the well being of others.
Do you know why that is, using hydrogen peroxide 35% on the skin is really painful, more than you can imagine, doing this 2 or 3 times a day becomes very old, very quickly, the lesions are tough as a childs plastic toy, actually destroying that lesion takes a lot more time and pain then people are willing to endure.
Mentioning this on line to everyone I have stopped doing, most can not follow directions to a T, and a T is the directions that must be followed by their own eyes.
If you must be seen and your face is pretty good a application of strait out of the bottle GRAPEFRUIT SEED EXTRACT will expose all that is hidden under your skin and it will happen pretty quickly, your jaw bone line, will expose some tremendous hidden involvement.
You don't see anything there, believe me this area has been invaded. Your face presents you to all humanity, when you look like a leper you feel distraught and alone, the wrongful use of these items can make you look so bad vicious dogs will run howling.
Toni, you have spewed what you really have no idea about, then I spewed what I know to be true from thousands of applications, there is much more to using these items then just get after it than I can say in a page, quite a bit more.
So for every person now that may want to try it because of your slam and my positive posted results you will have people hurting themselves without knowing what they are doing.
I can not hand hold everyone, in fact I posted it all before, many times,d with pictures from the beginning of a large area of wispy fiber area that should be hair, UNCOVERED with GRAPEFRUIT SEED EXTRACT to a bleeding deep, 2 inch wide ugly lesion until, in the end there was nothing there but real hair that was actually regrown .
Oh thats right, there was also a TINY dot of white plastic material with real skin all around, another application of GRAPEFRUIT SEED EXTRACT or HP 35%would not bother at all. Imagine that.
That post now is gone, the other site I posted all the pictures on were left out when he changed the site, too bad. I may still have the pictures Toni, do you need to make me work to prove you the fool. Do I really have to.
It seems to me your not away from the issue at all, how can anyone of us be, our lives are a shambles because of it, do not worry though, Ebola is on its way to send us back into the stone age and relieve our pain through death.
PUT DOWN YOUR PHONE AND PUT YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR, I REPETE, bang, bang, bang,.......... why won't they just put the phones down, LOL!!
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Post by toni on Oct 15, 2014 16:53:02 GMT -5
Baraka,
I've chosen not to read your post in full because "what I began to read" did not sound like you are trying to help anyone, but rather....just the opposite. I chose to inform, and naturally, what ANYONE does, is up to them.
I WARN and INFORM because IF I didn't know facts, ( I WOULD BE appreciative for someone like me telling me better).
Baraka, why are you so adamantly negative when it comes to people getting better?
Loose that DARKNESS.
Have a great day.
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Post by itchin4answers on Oct 15, 2014 17:51:29 GMT -5
Well, hello again Itchin, hehe
toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/sis/search/a?dbs+hsdb:@term+@docno+547
I'm glad your finger is getting better, that sure was a bad incident.
The link above is all about Hydrogen Peroxide....as we all know "how great it is" as a disinfectant. It's the best one I've found yet - *the link that is*.
I do believe, (my SEEMING) quirky about the use of peroxide has been completely misconstrued and I do want to help clear up the misunderstanding of it's use, (because I DO GIVE A HOOT)...honest....or I'd NOT waste my time, I don't have extra. That sounded like I was on my way out, and I AM here to say...(nope, I'm moving on in MY LIFE FINALLY) - Morgs took enough! And life is so flippin great I can't stand it, hehahha Like I said, Morgs RAPED AND STOLE FROM ME. It doesn't get my life anymore. And I PRAY for the day (I hear YOU SAY THAT TOO).
Peroxide is one of the BEEEEST disinfectants.
Peroxide DOES cause DNA protein damage ( WITH CONSISTENT USE)...topically and internally. But, we don't drown ourselves in it, BUT, some use it daily (((( topically )))))). AND as a woman, I don't think you want (those extra goodies ontop of morgs). I ONLY SAY THAT BECAUSE it's the way I think. I don't want scars...and the BEST part is, NO ONE has to be left with them IF they treat this shyte properly FROM THE GET GO.
BUT IF ONE IS USING PEROXIDE * here's the key* ....if they use it CONSISTENTLY ON A TOPICAL WOUND.....
they will THEN BE LEFT WITH A SCAR.
That is all I have said ALL along about peroxide.
So, bottom line is....if one doesn't care if they're scared up, then use peroxide topically and repeated.
The protein damage peroxide does ((( when USED TOPICALLY and CONSISTENTLY ))) guarantees one will be left with a scar.
See? It's IMPOSSIBLE NOT to scar.
You have to be GENTLE with your topical skin, AND not cause repeated oxidation (that's what the peroxide will do)....or that means scars.
If you CARE for (the cells in your skin) they'll heal like nothing ever happened. If one RUFFS up and damages their skin during a lesion, then one WILL scar.
THAT is the ONLY reason I am against REPEATED USE TOPICALLY of hydrogen peroxide.
I hope it's clear about me and peroxide. I like it. But...only for use INITIALLY on a wound...and not repeated use on the same spot. Because I personally don't like scars, and the GREATEST part of even going through 100 billion lesions over the last 10 years, is...NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW...I'm not marred from it, and I HAVE ONLY SHARED HOW ***** NOT**** TO SCAR.
So, peroxide, yes...it's a great disinfectant, but...there are other ways to clean a wound "REPEATEDLY" by using something other (repeatly than peroxide that will CAUSE THE scar).
There's just no other way I can say this about "me and peroxide". It's been misconstrued....because I THOUGHT no one would WANT to be left with these battle ass wounds. I sure don't anyways.
Hello toni, My finger is coming along just nicely thanks. The best thing I did was to keep the dressing off. At first I had to have a dressing because the bite was wide open and looked chunky and meaty, and if I knocked it it would bleed. The only thing I applied was diluted Kleen Green and when it had the dressing on, 3% hydrogen peroxide wiped over the wound. Now this was not 35% food grade diluated, this was supermarket brand 3% with additives. Now I admit I have been putting 3% HP on my face like a toner. I also try to avoid washing my face with water at night because of the high concentration of FLUORIDE. I rarely wear make up now, unless I am getting dressed up for an occasion, then I'll apply makeup. I can only use mineral makeup, and that's Nude by Nature as it is nano particle free. I do get away with a tinted moisturiser some days when I feel a little yuk. Though that's just me starring back at this reflection of myself in the mirror, which is changing daily. Yes, puts me into a bit of a tail spin lol. Well guess what toni - I AM MOVING ON WITH MY LIFE hahahaa!! in such a wonderful way, I wake up everyday and have to pinch myself. I never thought I would be free from this nightmare. I never thought my knight would appear and sweep me off my feet, but he has and I am the luckiest woman in the world!!!!!!!!! I seem to find when there is a deluge of fibers when having to work on my face I can have a reaction. My reaction is always the same, blisters which are a cross between hepatic and shingles. Unfortunately I do have to have anti-virals for these. I'm seeing the doctor this morning as I have two blisters on the right cheek again. I understand why this is so because of the mechanism of Morgellons. It has it's feeding hole and I still have 2 burrow holes on my face. As for scarring well mine are disappearing and besides who in the hell gets acne holes on one side of their face? If Dermatologists think that's normal well they should quit their job. Actually, we don't need Dermatologist do we? hehe...
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Post by itchin4answers on Oct 15, 2014 17:55:43 GMT -5
almost forgot, that link isn't working toni
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Post by toni on Oct 15, 2014 19:23:50 GMT -5
Hi Itchin,
I got reading your post, but I can't finish it yet, (but I will) later.
The part that I got to, (that might be something that some may be *misconstruing* in what I'm saying, STILL is,
I read up to where you said you used it "like a toner".
YES...*THAT* is not harmful practically at all. Because "the peroxide is ONLY damaging IF repeatedly used on an open wound* - not intact skin. That's the entire point I've been trying to say. Peroxide is GREAT, but "not used repeatedly on an open wound .....OR....the wound will heal with a scar. PS, sorry that link isn't working, I'll find another way to post it. It's got all the toxicology on (what it does to DNA) in an open wound.
See....(our skin) basically "has it's job duties already". It knows... (the way I talk)..that it's job is (to stop the world from coming in). The skin also doesn't CARE how it looks when it's laying down it's matrix to close itself back up to keep the world of germs out. So when looking at just those basics of the skin, (it's job is to keep out the world of germs) then we see how a scar can occur.
If too much damage is done to the (cells under the dermal surface) well, then the wrong ones are going to be in place of the right ones (the ones that are for appearance). And that's just because (the cells in the skin don't care "who goes first in line*, as they lay down their matrix, they only know their job is to "heal that wound in order to keep the world of germs out".
And peroxide....ouch, to those cells if they're REPEATEDLY DOUCED with it (as they're oxidizing and being replaced by emergency cells all in the name of their job (to close the wound to keep the world of germs out).
And...when all is said and done, yes, the skin did it's JOB again, it healed another wound closed to keep all the germs out, but........uh oh, the peroxide disrupted and KILLED OFF some of those cells I needed, yeah...like the skin coloring cells and all those kinda guys. So now what? Well, (now there is a de-pigmented) spot. Why? ONLY because the cells got KILLED OFF from the peroxide upon too many doucings day after day in that open wound, and now ..there aren't any melanocytes, or any of those guys left, BUT they did the job.
See, we can have our cake and EAT it too (in the skin scaring department) is all I'm saying. ONE doesn't need to scar. And repeated use (on an open wound) can't help but destroy the cells that "for starters" are your skin coloring cells. Yep, those are pre programmed DNA, and "we sure can make those gone" ...by applying agents that cause oxidative stress repeatedly.
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Post by itchin4answers on Oct 15, 2014 21:36:03 GMT -5
Hi Itchin, I got reading your post, but I can't finish it yet, (but I will) later. The part that I got to, (that might be something that some may be *misconstruing* in what I'm saying, STILL is, I read up to where you said you used it "like a toner". YES...*THAT* is not harmful practically at all. Because "the peroxide is ONLY damaging IF repeatedly used on an open wound* - not intact skin. That's the entire point I've been trying to say. Peroxide is GREAT, but "not used repeatedly on an open wound .....OR....the wound will heal with a scar. PS, sorry that link isn't working, I'll find another way to post it. It's got all the toxicology on (what it does to DNA) in an open wound. See....(our skin) basically "has it's job duties already". It knows... (the way I talk)..that it's job is (to stop the world from coming in). The skin also doesn't CARE how it looks when it's laying down it's matrix to close itself back up to keep the world of germs out. So when looking at just those basics of the skin, (it's job is to keep out the world of germs) then we see how a scar can occur. If too much damage is done to the (cells under the dermal surface) well, then the wrong ones are going to be in place of the right ones (the ones that are for appearance). And that's just because (the cells in the skin don't care "who goes first in line*, as they lay down their matrix, they only know their job is to "heal that wound in order to keep the world of germs out". And peroxide....ouch, to those cells if they're REPEATEDLY DOUCED with it (as they're oxidizing and being replaced by emergency cells all in the name of their job (to close the wound to keep the world of germs out). And...when all is said and done, yes, the skin did it's JOB again, it healed another wound closed to keep all the germs out, but........uh oh, the peroxide disrupted and KILLED OFF some of those cells I needed, yeah...like the skin coloring cells and all those kinda guys. So now what? Well, (now there is a de-pigmented) spot. Why? ONLY because the cells got KILLED OFF from the peroxide upon too many doucings day after day in that open wound, and now ..there aren't any melanocytes, or any of those guys left, BUT they did the job. See, we can have our cake and EAT it too (in the skin scaring department) is all I'm saying. ONE doesn't need to scar. And repeated use (on an open wound) can't help but destroy the cells that "for starters" are your skin coloring cells. Yep, those are pre programmed DNA, and "we sure can make those gone" ...by applying agents that cause oxidative stress repeatedly. Of course, yes I certainly do see what you're saying. To use my finger as an example; I didn't continually apply the HP to the wound once the dressing was off and this was removed a week and one day after the event. Now the wound is looking amazing. I only applied a little bit of Dr Thar's on maybe two occasions because the wound was very dry. After that, nothing, just air. I do know the dangers of Hydrogen Peroxide, particularly internally using food grade HP. It's like anything we treat with, use CAUTION. and yes of course constantly applying HP to an open wound is going to create problems. One being; it is not going to let the human body do what it was meant to do and this is to simply repair it's self.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Oct 16, 2014 0:50:20 GMT -5
WHAT Toni, Toni have you got my goat, this is the last time I ask you before I get all riled up, there is absolutely no reason to answer your posts, your like the doctors, LOL, you use one misspelled word to twist things all a round.
Find another misspelled word, please.
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Post by itchin4answers on Oct 16, 2014 3:32:07 GMT -5
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Post by toni on Oct 16, 2014 7:54:52 GMT -5
Hi Itchin, I got reading your post, but I can't finish it yet, (but I will) later. The part that I got to, (that might be something that some may be *misconstruing* in what I'm saying, STILL is, I read up to where you said you used it "like a toner". YES...*THAT* is not harmful practically at all. Because "the peroxide is ONLY damaging IF repeatedly used on an open wound* - not intact skin. That's the entire point I've been trying to say. Peroxide is GREAT, but "not used repeatedly on an open wound .....OR....the wound will heal with a scar. PS, sorry that link isn't working, I'll find another way to post it. It's got all the toxicology on (what it does to DNA) in an open wound. See....(our skin) basically "has it's job duties already". It knows... (the way I talk)..that it's job is (to stop the world from coming in). The skin also doesn't CARE how it looks when it's laying down it's matrix to close itself back up to keep the world of germs out. So when looking at just those basics of the skin, (it's job is to keep out the world of germs) then we see how a scar can occur. If too much damage is done to the (cells under the dermal surface) well, then the wrong ones are going to be in place of the right ones (the ones that are for appearance). And that's just because (the cells in the skin don't care "who goes first in line*, as they lay down their matrix, they only know their job is to "heal that wound in order to keep the world of germs out". And peroxide....ouch, to those cells if they're REPEATEDLY DOUCED with it (as they're oxidizing and being replaced by emergency cells all in the name of their job (to close the wound to keep the world of germs out). And...when all is said and done, yes, the skin did it's JOB again, it healed another wound closed to keep all the germs out, but........uh oh, the peroxide disrupted and KILLED OFF some of those cells I needed, yeah...like the skin coloring cells and all those kinda guys. So now what? Well, (now there is a de-pigmented) spot. Why? ONLY because the cells got KILLED OFF from the peroxide upon too many doucings day after day in that open wound, and now ..there aren't any melanocytes, or any of those guys left, BUT they did the job. See, we can have our cake and EAT it too (in the skin scaring department) is all I'm saying. ONE doesn't need to scar. And repeated use (on an open wound) can't help but destroy the cells that "for starters" are your skin coloring cells. Yep, those are pre programmed DNA, and "we sure can make those gone" ...by applying agents that cause oxidative stress repeatedly. Of course, yes I certainly do see what you're saying. To use my finger as an example; I didn't continually apply the HP to the wound once the dressing was off and this was removed a week and one day after the event. Now the wound is looking amazing. I only applied a little bit of Dr Thar's on maybe two occasions because the wound was very dry. After that, nothing, just air. I do know the dangers of Hydrogen Peroxide, particularly internally using food grade HP. It's like anything we treat with, use CAUTION. and yes of course constantly applying HP to an open wound is going to create problems. One being; it is not going to let the human body do what it was meant to do and this is to simply repair it's self. Hi Itchin Oh yes, you know. See, there really is nothing wrong with Peroxide, (and you hit it on the head) in your last sentence " it's not going to let the human body do what it was meant to do). Right....like (everything). Anything in excess isn't good. That's all I keep "spewing" like BO says, hahah I ONLY say that BECAUSE - when this is all said and done, or when one gets a handle on it, which is so possible, (we don't want left with battle wounds) , especially when we don't have to be. And I'm so glad your life is changing Itchin, you said you found your knight, and I sure am happy for you.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Oct 16, 2014 13:47:54 GMT -5
Ok, a question for Itchin, do you have what Toni calls scars on your skin, the white spots left from lesions.
LOL, this is not scar material it is a protective layer that surrounds the growth, under what many call fake skin.
Do you see that word MANY, that means many of the diseased have noticed this layer of normal looking skin that will come away from the white material, or the lesion will leave this item behind.
Toni you imagine that there is nothing under your skin, I guarantee you, give me a week and your real self will be showing, first I would strip you of all this supposed skin that has healed, it comes off the top of lesions quite quickly with the use of GRAPEFRUIT SEED EXTRACT, Then I would apply hydrogen peroxide 35% to all of the open bleeding wounds, which would only be where these growths are or were hidden away.
It seems the hydrogen peroxide 35% does not at all bother real skin NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES I HAVE APPLIED IT. Imagine big round bleeding holes, why are they all round, WHY round, does hydrogen peroxide only make round holes, Why are these holes not in the shape of the hydrogen peroxide application long and drawn out, WHY ask the imbecile they may have all the answers.
I will give you one I can think of these things only grow in a circle, unless more than one merge together, then they are more than one circle, but if this is the case you can distinctly see the red blood spot in the center of the white material that used to feed the bright red cells inside.
then and only then would I keep up relentlessly treating you gory growth until the material inside is gone, oh I may use a green scrubby pad to grind away the matter that is no longer thriving, UNTILL I get through the red cells down to the white layer that is deep under your flesh, unpleasant is not the word for what all this feels like.
I can not really think of a word to explain this, house of horrors, now if I would have had a pain shot I would have just cut this all out in one sitting and sewed it up, yes, it could have easily been done, you can see all that is there after exposing the growth this way.
I would not want to do it on a plane full of Ebola patients though, it could make them sicker, LOL,
Oh last but not least, justa soa youa understanda, when your going after a lesion, there is a GROWTH under it, The material of this growth has nothing to do with human flesh, except that it is kept nourished by our blood.
You assume that this is healed if you can just not see the ugly monsters that came out of your skin, a little girl rendition of what you can not see is certainly not there.
REMEMBER THE ITCHING WHEN YOU FIRST GOT IT, you screamed bugs, they are eating me, I never for a moment assumed such a thing, why, the amount of insects that would cause that kind of itching would easily be seen, they would be coming out of my ears with pieces of brain, for a long time too because I have a very large brain.
My body is a garden, when I found out it was filled with these things they could not stay, I had to do all I could to eradicate, you did not, you like them warm and at home where they are, that's ok with me, I do not really care, its your decision.
If I was to develop a few spots, which I did on my arms as I did not have the power to continue the destruction of the white material, so it grew out
In spots where I kept up the work until all of the material was gone, the hole closed up like pulling a boat out of the water, where the boat once sat there is water, when you remove all of the material the hole grows together, its quite amazing.
Then you know more than the man that did this several thousand times right, yes you do, your the one that knows.
This seems like a show I once saw, MOTHER KNOWS BEST!!
I do not suggest anyone do what I did, what I did was a horror, still I did have eyes at that time and my eyes could see very well what was happening.
Make no mistake, these so called LESIONS are nothing more than the top of a growth that will in time possibly recover itself.
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Post by itchin4answers on Oct 16, 2014 16:08:09 GMT -5
Yes I do have white scars on my skin. If you scroll up the page on this thread and click on the photo of me. Oh God I didn't realise I looked like HELL LOL!
You see the white scars on my chest. I don't like these at all. I was almost thinking of having a tattoo put over them. Though I know that would be so counterproductive!
I do have the white scars all over my body, BUT not as bad as what my newspaper article made out. I am sure they enhanced the photo to make my scars stand out more.
I don't have any problems getting by in public. My skin has a bit of a tan at the moment and as I get more sun the scars don't appear so bad.
In saying that, I still want to obliterate this bugger.
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Post by toni on Oct 16, 2014 19:47:23 GMT -5
Baraka,
I'm chuckling...(not actually at you) but how darn frustrated you get.
Sheeese....calm down. I am NOT YOUR enemy.....but you DO make me wonder about you.
IF, IF, IF.............................you would only TRY and converse in a humanly fashion, instead of a baby who's screaming for added attention, I will speak with you.
WE DO HAVE the same things going on with and IN the skin. YES, the DE'pigmented is scar tissue, AAAAANNNNNNDDDDD yes Baraka....I AM FULLY aware of the WHITE HIDEOUS GROWTHS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE LIKE A ROAD MAP OF THE USA right UNDER OUR SKIN.
So, if you can "carry a conversation without sounding like you're tearing YOUR skin off your back (even on the computer it screams through), and I know it's because of your feeling that YOU AREN'T being heard" and IF you can just stop the nonsense, AND if you can calm that out of control absolute frustration that you walk with and breathe with your every word, THEN yes, I would like to "share our stuff" because YOU have the same thing I do".
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