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Post by london2146 on Apr 25, 2006 2:26:31 GMT -5
Hey, I'm talking Sterling and gold here......Even the jewelry that I
have not worn in 1/2 year is all turning black! It will clean/ polish
up some, but not like it used to do. Today I wore this sterling
chunky-chain bracelett to work. I just cleaned it yesterday with chemical cloth
and a cleaning solution as well. I had not had it on over one hour this morning and it was what you would call black!
I just started noticing this around Christmas but it has gotten much worse.
I mean brand new stuff> that has never been worn-ever, is beginning to turn dark just sitting in my drawer.
don't say this is natural> all will turn eventually. Nope; this is black w/in 60 minutes.......
I was just curious about the rest of you-
what is it?
T. you
L-
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Post by freaky on Apr 25, 2006 4:05:26 GMT -5
Hey London, was it really necessary to ask me that question right before I was going to bed? Just kidding, but , I can't pass by a question I can actually answer with out looking like a fool. I believe we have too much acid in our system. I haven't goggled this particular irritation as of yet, but I would gear more towares holistic remedies, which would include specific diet to attain a neutral balance. While back, I sold jewelry, prior to becoming an upcoming used to be artist. I think the wholesale jeweler has some liquid that may be able to get the grunge off the silver. I just haven't made it over there yet to pick it up. If it does work, I'll get you some, & send it to you, because we have both ruined our silver. I just wore a new necklace, and I swear, you just can't get this crud off. Within 12 hours, I noticed, it was pitch black . I have another trick up my sleeve, but I'm passing out, & I'll have to continue this discussion tomorrow. In closing though, I will tell ya, this is a consequence of this witty disease, but not to worry. We shall overcome. Love, freaky
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Post by Lazy Carrie on Apr 25, 2006 4:33:24 GMT -5
I had an ex like twenty years ago (that makes me feel old) that used to have the same problem. I remember thinking...oh, it's just the oils in his skin. I NEVER had that problem until the onset of this disease!!! Never...now...constant. I only wear 14kt, 18kt & 24kt gold. Well...I used to. I don't wear anything but jade rings, bracelets and pieces on ropes now because of the ugliness and unhealthiness of it all. Even on my ears from earing's that thread through my ears. Where ever the gold touches my skin turns it black. Dear darling Dr. Clark says that's the bacteria utilizing the metals in the jewelry that is required for bacteria production. She also says the gold accumulates in the ovaries, uterus and pancreas. I don't know...so far she's right on in my book! Many people question her and her techniques...but she's always got some form of documented medical literature to support her findings. It is so funky...it hit me so fast...all of a sudden it happened, out of the blue...even the fingers around the finger that will have a ring on it...black...nasty. I'll put it on for a special occasion or something, other than that...nope, no more...and I've got a lot of nice jewelry. The only great thing my ex gave me except our beautiful babies !!! Had to hawk it a few times when this disease had me kicked to the curb too...but I got it back.
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Post by time for new jewelery on Apr 25, 2006 4:41:11 GMT -5
Per your request, I won't say it's natural for jewelry to do that. Quality gold shouldn't, though, but alloys in it could. Tarnish is corrosion, and tarnish-removal creates even more corrosion/tarnish. Sterling silver in the open air and humidity can cause it to tarnish extremely quickly, and, perspiration, from touching it and wearing it, will too. It first appears as a golden hue and then quickly turns to black. It's caused by oxidization and simple moisture from air, and, believe it or not, from sunshine. The more damaged it is, the faster it goes black. When sterling is new, to keep tarnish to a minimum it is advised to store pieces in an air-tight protective bag made of tarnish proof cloth or to use a plastic zip- lock bag made of Mylar or polyethylene. Most jewelers store their sterling silver pieces in zip-lock bags. Some plastic bags, though, contain sulfur compounds which can cause sterling silver to tarnish faster or stain. Never use polyvinyl plastic bags. doityourself.com/info/silver
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Post by london2146 on Apr 25, 2006 4:42:44 GMT -5
Dear Lovely Freaky, You know, I am aware of the acid in our system and the changes for our jewelry b/c of that. My ph is alkaline. I have seen mine turn before after eating acidic stuff (Corona/ limes, etc.) Hey- just joking here....but I have seen it do this on occasions over the years..... But like I said, I'm alkaline.....very low too. Plus I have not gotten really toasted in a while now....So, I have not been burning any limes or anything in my pot-pourri burner...... I'm serious! The jewelry that is just hanging there is now turning........Okay, let me ask you this? Why, lets say a new piece of jewelry that like your mom that does not even like you gave you....You know the kind......( damn, should've went to pawn shop!). Why does it stay all brand new looking for like two years and never begin to turn, then all of a sudden You got this "freaky" , "freaky" (ha!) disease and the bitches start to turn black w/out ever being worn? ?/ Oh, must be this> My huse is acidic? well, something ain't right. Freaky, I swear to you this stuff is in the water and in the A/C system. If I had do gamble on my life and w/in thirty seconds decide if that was going to be a true or a false statement, then I'd say TRUE!!!! Hope your doing okay, getting the "freak" on and all......... L-
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Post by london2146 on Apr 25, 2006 4:48:25 GMT -5
Carrie, Hey, did'nt see you.
Uhh, you reading Hilda? So kool! Please, I beg of you to keep us posted of alerts like your above.....gold/ bacteria increases.......funky. I love that.!
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and Oh, Freaky,
Thank you on that offer of jewelry cleaner.....that was koolio too. don't worry> have plenty here!!!!
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Post by london2146 on Apr 25, 2006 4:55:30 GMT -5
Dear time for new jewlry,
thanks for posting. To try to sound (Not sound, I mean) like a "know-it all" here.....Oh, I'm well , very well of those facts / tips you posted.
some of my favorite pieces have been with me for like 15 years and they have never, ever done this!
Another example, new, brand new necklace for christmas......was excited to see it and immediately put it on on the spot.
W/ in one hour, the part that touches my skin was pitch dark! It will not even clean up; yet the rest of it does..................
T. you-london
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Post by Lazy Carrie on Apr 25, 2006 5:08:09 GMT -5
I've not researched this London...but darling Clark says there is nickel in the metals we wear and that it is the nickel...(like from braces...I had them) that bacteria need to flourish. She did mention that there is supporting documentation but haven't taken the time to do the research like I said. By the time I found that in her book, I pretty much trusted what she said because I did research much of the other stuff she said to find it was pretty accurate. Just wanted to tell you so if you felt like looking it up...you could. Since we are on the subject, she says, don't leave your spoon in your coffee cup...don't eat hot soups with metal silverwear...you see the connection. She says with out nickel that bacteria in the body can't flourish. I'm tellin' you spychick...her book is the bomb...that'd be Hulda...not Hilda ! Kidding. Time to get new...you know...the only 18kt & 24kt pieces that I wore were on my neck and I don't recall any skin areas turning black from them. I wonder if it is only the earing's and rings because they are only 14kt? The jewelry itself didn't turn like I've seen silver do, it was my skin that would turn black. The necklaces touched my neck area that's infected with this demon creature so it should have turned...hum. Never thought of that.
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Post by janedough as on Apr 25, 2006 7:04:59 GMT -5
Hello everyone. My husband buys my jewelry from Tiffany's. Most of it is black from just sitting in a jewelry box. I did think this was quite strange. One piece has so much detail to it, I am afraid it is going to have to be discarded. I clean each piece with the cloth before wearing. Thankfully, I don't go out in public too much anymore and I have never been one to really care too much about jewelry. On a second note, Whenever I go for an EKG, where they put those electrode connector things on your body, I come home with these exact imprint marks on my body. They stay for at least six weeks, change several different colors, then the skin turns a different texture. Very weird!!!!!!! Anyone else have similar experience with this?
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Post by london on Apr 25, 2006 14:33:34 GMT -5
Jane, Now that's trippy. I wonder what it is then??? Although I have probably had this disease since before August and I just did not know/ recognize it until then....... my jewelry still did not turn until like 4 months later.....and it's hard to get the black off now. I mean it does clean up but no where near the extent it used to. Tiffanys, eh? > things that make you go hummmmm ______________________ Smartcarriegurl, Why thank you on her- Hulda's tips.....whichever way you spell her ugly name,....kidding here. Hey, which book are you reading of hers? I liked the part about the spoon left in coffee, etc., get this? I breifly read an article yesterday and will finish it tonight but it was saying how bad the food we cook in the microwave is........I'm talking very, very bad here....... and the cell phones too- a lot worse than what they are telling us. I would suggest only using one with the earpiece microphone.attachment. later all- london
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Post by Chicago Bonnie on Apr 25, 2006 15:57:55 GMT -5
All my adult life my jewerly has ALWAYS turned black even 18K gold Now that I have this disease, it seldom turn black, but then, I think because there a film over my whole body and there is less reaction with the alloys mixed with gold.
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Post by ridgewalker on Apr 25, 2006 21:30:39 GMT -5
London -
ABSOLUTELY !!!!
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Post by ridgewalker on Apr 25, 2006 21:37:56 GMT -5
Whoops! Jumped the gun. I'm all with you London and hadn't brought it up 'cause I thought it was only me. My gold has not turned, but it is all 18k and above. ALL my silver turned BLACK. Not tarnished.........black! In just hours. Old pieces, new pieces....heck I used to deal in jewelry and I can't now because everything turns BLACK! My experience has been with sterling. Started me thinking the other night that it might be a way to draw them out or trap them. Was thinking of sending a sample in for the big boys with the superscopes to look at. It's been sad because some of these were very sentimental pieces but I've just bagged them, pick them up now and then and all I can say is hhhmmmmmmmm! Never had a jewelry reaction before. I'm a jewelry nut, just like a bird......attracted to shiny objects! Theories on this any of you biologist / brainiacs? I've been wondering for a long time 'cause I wore some 18k on silverplate earrings the other day thinking I could get through the day and when I got home there were black globs all over them. Yuck !!!!!! How embarrassing (like my massive lesions aren't !?!?!?!)
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Post by Ms. Kitty ( kraz as a kat) on Apr 25, 2006 22:10:50 GMT -5
the lower the number for ph the more ACID you are, higher the number the more alki you are. love krazykat, keep that ph at 7 if you can
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Post by ridgewalker on Apr 25, 2006 22:15:21 GMT -5
Boy are we ever trying Krazykat. Everything in the world in changing our diet. Do you know a good, cheap source for testing strips and also any simple addative we could use to battle the acidity? Have been following candida type diets and eating all the alki foods we can, but seems to no avail. HEEELLLPPPP !!!! ps. just the jewelry turns black.......not the skin......weird!
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Post by skytroll on Apr 25, 2006 22:51:06 GMT -5
hello you jewelry tarnishers, Mine too, don't wear any, anymore. Kid's jewelry might be better for us. euroamericanhealth.com has some ideas using baking soda to keep more alkaloid or to balance it out. Testing for acid: www.euroamericanhealth.com/test.htmlclick on the treatment which follows. Skytroll
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Post by ridgewalker on Apr 26, 2006 1:21:28 GMT -5
Thanks Skytroll......you're a jewel! For this and many other things. Keep up the great work you've been doing on this board. You're one who can make the scientific a little more understandable for the scientifically challenged folks like me !
Blessings,
Okie
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Post by freaky on Apr 26, 2006 3:04:50 GMT -5
Now, I'm confused. We should get more neutral, could be for some they are too acidic, but London ain't acidic. Also confused about the air conditioning, but I got a notion you be foolen with me. To tell ya the real truth, what I say is not always founded unless I say so. Brilliant as I thought it was at the time, I must retract my acidity theory, as I don't believe that is the problem now. Personally, I agree with Hudilla the Clark. I have the utmost respect for that chick, and think she has really gotten a bad rap. In fact I discussed her with a former head of the parasitology dept. (is that the right word?) & I was impressed that even though he was a dumb dip, he actually thought she had some credibility. Because I didn't have a problem with my jewelry until given my death sentence, 4 years ago, I am convinced it has to do with the disease. Also, cause London , & the accounts of the other ladies in the group, have acquired this problem. Actually, I said 12 hours only because I didn't really notice, but my necklace could have turned black within 30 minutes. I just didn't look. Carrie, the word of the day is PLASTIC. ;D I hope I don't look foolish anymore.
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Post by will lisen to music on Apr 26, 2006 5:53:27 GMT -5
hmmmm....someone mentioned scarring and white marks now after the healing instead of pink.
another interesting aspect and maybe phenomonae
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