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Post by Orion*** on Feb 7, 2007 22:03:50 GMT -5
Well, That did it, you talked me into it. Now we shall see if it works on my kind of morgellons--crazy hair--fluks--fungus--oncho--
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Post by reliefseeker on Feb 8, 2007 0:55:51 GMT -5
Hi Orion, that's a good thing to start the Cumando you will soon see... you have flukes? Have you read about the transgenic nematodes...released by the Dept. of Agriculture..that was frightening...had never seen that before and only heard one of fellow morgy sufferers thats talks about the kind that "swims" inside you and lays purplish-greenish florescent eggs (one time under my skin)...this sounds like it...it's in the damn water...genectically altered with jelly fish and to withstand heat...USA running "Frankenstein" lab and don't know it...I feel like a lab rat....yeeech! www.aphis.usda.gov/brs/arthropod/permits/9605201r/9605201r.html (Evidence of its use) Johns's suggestion of Mycocyde, was right on the money too...no more "crawlies". Cumanda is very good, but I needed extra antifungal because of the heavy biofilm on my legs... There is still an area in my back where something used to chew now it just slightly vibrates...don't know what it is but it is tolerable and does not do it continoulsy...my legs especially the left leg is hideous looking it does not make me sad considering that a doctor was discussing amputating it...but I showed it to my cousin last night, maybe she was being over dramatic but she screamed...I was stunned by her reaction but still just happy that I got to keep the leg...I'm grateful to my mom, Ppy18, and my son who never seems to notice how ghastly it looks...must love me...lol...I'm very happy now as you can see...yes Life...life is good, but better after 4 months of working with the crawling and stinging and another 4 months of living with those damn flukes...I hope the Cumanda killed all stages of it...but I don't know... I received my Super Cayenne, Siliphos (an enchanced milk thistle or use Burbur to help liver out), and my Chlorella today...take care all... RS
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Post by life on Feb 8, 2007 1:10:44 GMT -5
HI Orion~~
Well, what can I say? Welcome aboard!
It definitely sounds like ReliefSeeker and I do not have the same type of Morgs -- by that I mean intensity of different manifestations.
I don't have things swimming under the skin -- but, I know I've got to have flukes. And, in the early days, some 3 1/2 years ago, I saw the outlines of some very weird stuff that would surface to just under my skin when I started taking sea salt baths.
Anyway, I'm going one-by-one and RS is going whole-guns. I just gotta know what does what.
My 'crazy' hairs disappeared when I took Artemisinin, Ionic Copper, and very high levels of Folic Acid my doctor prescribed for me -- they never returned.
But, all the other stuff, yep, I got it. Hopefully, others will try it to, and report back.
I hope my 'details' aren't boring you, its just that I've so often read posts where people request more clarity.
I'm excited anyway, life is good
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Post by life on Feb 8, 2007 1:15:05 GMT -5
Hi ReliefSeeker~~ You go Girl!!! Would you please take the time to post links to places where you ordered the Mycocide, as well as the Siliphose, and Chlorella? Also, how much of each you are taking? Thanks. Love and hugs, life
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Post by reliefseeker on Feb 8, 2007 3:11:12 GMT -5
Hi Life, the chorella is $35.99 for 1,500 (can buy less), you can take 5-15 tablets 1-3 x a day with food and water. Siliphos. 60 capsules for $15.99 take 1 capule 2-3 x times a day with water.... you can buy both at... www.swansonvitamins.comMycocyde can be gotten at Enzymes International, Inc for $30.00 (goggle please) taken @ 12 drops 3x times a day (30 minutes apart from 2 separate bottles...1 & 2..)... RS
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Post by reliefseeker on Feb 8, 2007 3:36:26 GMT -5
Hi All, it's pretty safe to assume that the Mycocyde 1 & 2, an antifugal and /or the Bromelain Plus stopped the "crawlies" along with the Cumanda because I just got the newer supplements yesterday...and started on them late last night.
RS
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Post by jwf on Feb 8, 2007 11:16:21 GMT -5
This should help.......
Re: Best place to buy this Cumanda? « Reply #14 on Jan 27th, 2007 at 2:20am »
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Hi Reliefseeker,
If you've read some of my posts in the General Health section you will know that I'm a big fan of Olive Leaf Extract-- been preaching about it going back to early '04 on the unmentionable board.
Lately, my chlorophyll intake is from Alfalfa, the king of herbs (also roughage and trace minerals).
Can't handle the Grapefruit Seed Extract. Pau d' Arco seems to work better for me.
There is an herbal supplement from Enzymes International called Mycocide that is simply death to Candida. Herxed on it real bad last week, but feel so good now the wintertime blues are almost gone.
tinyurl.com/yvum3p
I've been wondering if there is some cross-talk or quorum sensing between the Lyme and Agrobacterium in the tick*(or other suitable vector) to increase virulence and enhance delivery and then more chatter, which can include bioluminescence, with Candida in the human body. *(Yes, you read that right)
Just like the fireflies in east Tennessee that light up at the same time. There is a whole lot of communication between the different bacteria and yeast (or fungus) with quorum sensing controlling the biofilm formation-- sort of like ganging up on the host- us.
Just unpleasant conjecture from some research I've been reading; but the Mycocide really kicks their little butts.... Also, you know my mantra by now...... don't forget your Cat's Claw.
Other than the Candida die-off, I've been (knock on wood) symptom free for over a year now and traveling is not a problem.
Blue Skies...........John
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Post by reliefseeker on Feb 8, 2007 16:28:21 GMT -5
Hi All, yes Jwf, I had been taking Chlorella and Olive Leaf Extract before I found out I had Morgellons and before I became full blown. My itching started over 30 years ago and I controlled it with scabies lotion...it worked. But I suspect that the "critters" were building up over the years. I had already made lifestyle changes like not going to the theatre where it initially happened the first time...and I found out over 4-5 years ago that when I came in contact with the homeless, particularly by letting my car widow down and giving them a couple of dollars and/or even having them walk up to me, I would start itching something fierce. I became full blown last year in May, when I was literally "attacked" by hundreds (probably more like thousands) of microscopic "critters" from the carpet ( by shampooing it) at my house that I had not even occupied for a year. I agree Olive Leaf Extract and chlorella among other supplements over the years (before I knew about those 2) obviously kept me from becoming full blown. I wanted to address the biofilm again, I was using Mycocide externally on my legs and taking Mycocyde internally (both antifungal)...I noted yesterday that the biofilm was spreading from my left leg to my foot. The biofilm must be made up of many organisms, bacteria, fungi, etc. I went back to using Eco-Vie,an antifungal and antibacterical, and they immediately lost most of their "grip" on both my foot and leg, especially my foot. Perhaps, it helped to confuse them. I still remain free of the irritating "crawlies", but fibers/granules still emerge from my skin. I will feel something like a "spread", and when I use the adhesive lint roller, there will be lot of them that try to move at one time. They don't attack until they have an army but we know some of them will work alone and bite or sting the crap out of you. Here is a link on biofilm that some of you have undoubtedly seen before: www.biophysica.com/bacteria.htmlRS
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Post by life on Feb 9, 2007 20:34:07 GMT -5
::)Well, its been 21 days on the Cumanda. All this week, I was having 'movement' in my gums, which is gone for now. Also, I have always had a 'thickness' in my throat, at the top, where I swallow. The left side seems to have cleared up, but its still on the right side yet. I haven't had any 'floaters' in my eyes since after the first couple of days. It's Friday, and I only got one new lump on the crown of my head, which I will get rid of this weekend -- usually, I get several new ones on my head every weak from work. I've noticed that the last couple of nights, I have not had any 'movement' sensation inside my ears. A couple more have 'dried up' -- one on my shin and one on my collar bone. Also, a very old one -- over two years -- on my neck, just below my right ear, has turned into two 'pimples' and they seem to be disappearing. Like ReliefSeeker, I started to have 'crawlies' all last week -- in the evenings. Not bad enough to keep me from going to sleep -- but I hadn't had them in a while. That seems to not be as prevalent tonight either. I'm not as 'irritable' -- teaching middle school can get to ya'! All this week, I noticed that things don't seem to bother much anymore, and I can relax and focus on completing tasks better. That's nice. I feel on 'top of things', instead feeling overloaded and overwhelmed either. My hair is still sft and combs through without anything in it. My manual dexterity seems to be back to normal, so much so that I am going to start practicing my cello again! (I did warn my new next-door neighbors, though ) I'm not sure if you all are interested my continued posts -- but, I will continue for a while, assuming..... life is good -- and getting better
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Post by Orion*** on Feb 10, 2007 13:55:21 GMT -5
Life:: Pleas do continue the up dates--this is vital information. Your symptoms are almost identical to mine.. The cumanda is all that you are takeing. Right? Your progress has been astounding. Thanks. Orion***
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Post by CA GA Peach on Feb 10, 2007 17:28:28 GMT -5
Life and Others: Do continue the reports. I ordered my cumanda on Feb. 6 and it's not here yet. The cheapest I could find the liquid Nutramedix Cumanda is at www.myherbs.net (not .com). I'll also report on the cumanda. CaGaPeach
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Post by belikewater on Feb 10, 2007 17:44:42 GMT -5
Hi, jwf, life, et al, Thanks for continuing updates. I liked the information from the Green Pharmacy folks so I just ordered the cumanda, quinta, trace minerals and burbur. I will let you know how it goes.
I am having only very slight itching only every once in a while and it goes away on its own. This is due to the homeopathics and because I have caused by rubbing and hot tubbing,expulsions of stuff from all over my skin.
The symptoms I am now having I think are directly Lyme stuff; urinary incontinence and joint and muscle pain. I think I may go back for one more homeopathic appointment but then start on the herbs. I do think the Morgellons skin stuff has a bacterial and a fungal component. I am sure Lyme is infecting my skin. My Rainbow serpent.
Thank you so much, life for informing us of your progress. This feels good.
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Post by life on Feb 10, 2007 23:24:15 GMT -5
Hi Orion~~ Thank you so much for the encouragement. I had hoped that if I just post/report, and if anyone has similar symptoms, they might relate. Yes, I am pretty much only taking the Cumanda. I started taking Quina and planned to alternate, but the Cumanda was so amazing (especially the first several hours and days), that I thought the only way to really know what it is doing, is to do it in isolation. Its still working for me, too. I was skeptical because so often things we take work for a while and then don't anymore -- as I'm sure you totally know! So, 3 weeks and its still causing my body to push them out as well as some are drying up, or resurfacing (I believe the dark patches are just dormant Morgs) as pimples where once I've had one. The pimples seem to disappear in about 3 days. I am taking one thing, and that is QuestionHair's smoothie. I did modify her formula somewhat though. If you want, I'll write it out. Three days ago, I started back on tincture of Myrrh, just 20 drops once day for now. And today, I decided I better get on the Burbur as I am noticing my palms and fingers are getting more and more pink. My doctor taught me that they should not be pink at all. When they are pink, he said it is called 'liver palm' and means your liver is toxic. Actually, he was quite worried about that for me. Orion, if you have them, even a little bit like me, in your eyes, you will be amazed at the stuff that comes out. I forgot to mention in earlier posts that within 3 days of taking Cumanda, I felt a mild pain in the middle of my left iris -- something 'cutting' came out. Only one, thank goodness. Also, 'grains' come out of the corners of my eyes and off my eyelids. I had pretty much taken care of my eyes with Swedish Bitters, so I guess the Cumanda was just pushing out what was in them lying dormant -- the nasty little varmints! Hugs, life
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Post by sammy on Feb 10, 2007 23:29:03 GMT -5
Am doing the cumanda also. Orion thanks for the bump, I got out of work today. Now am busy sending out the word to get some feed back on my lates germ find. It's going to everyone I've been talking to about this illness. The cumanda sure helps the throat things.
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Post by life on Feb 10, 2007 23:30:39 GMT -5
Hi CaGaPeach~~
Sounds like your source is a couple of $$ cheaper that mine. I have to say though, that when I order from them, things arrive in about 4-5 days. Both sites are selling Nutrimedix, which I think is important since that is the brand Dr. Cowden recommended.
This is great! I mean your trying Cumanda. I'm eager to hear how it works for you and what results you have.
life is good
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Post by life on Feb 10, 2007 23:36:49 GMT -5
Hi Lymernick~~ Is your throat the only thing the Cumanda is helping with? Or do you not have issues with skin, like I do? Please forgive me, I'm sure you've posted your symptoms, but I can't remember. How long have you been taking Cumanda and how much? Thanks, life
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Post by sammy on Feb 10, 2007 23:49:56 GMT -5
Hi Life! I've been on it for about 3 weeks, might be longer. I try so many things and sometimes don't keep track. I've been building up the drops, started at 4 drops. The ones posting their progress are doing an excellent job. It works on some of this. I have no skin lesions right now. It does not effect the hard things. It took two anti's and a muscle relaxer and hard work. This can do some hard hex on you , so take your time. It's a good product. Thanks guys for posting your progress. I research for alot of people and just don't have the time to post as much.
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Post by lurker on Feb 11, 2007 0:39:26 GMT -5
I got my Cumanda, started right out at 10 drops, so far I can't tell it's doing anything, but it's only been 3 days. I've done 30 drops already today.
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Post by sammy on Feb 11, 2007 0:57:11 GMT -5
Hi lurker, some products may not work for everyone. If you are getting no effect, then try something you might think will work on yours. We have all had trouble with many different things. Plus, some only work for a very short time. Some stop after using a lot sooner than we care for. It's like money down the drain.Cumanda is helpful, but realize, this is a very bad germ we are dealing with. For some of us, it takes everything and God to kill these beast. Some products may not work for everyone.So everyone tries ever so hard to find what works on theirs. I've been there also. Just keep hitting them HARD. Real hard. A certain silent part of this, you must find and remove or kill. Those tubes are everywhere this stuff has been. Use fingernail and press hard to find them. From ears, lips, everywhere.If anyone still has hair or movement or webbing, the film,,, then those hard things are around. Okay, so for now am going to work on Mycobacterium to all my people and then sleep.Hang in there Lurker, you'll get there. LOL!
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Post by life on Feb 11, 2007 10:16:36 GMT -5
Hi BeLikeWater~~
I don't really itch much either. I sure did in the beginning! My itching was taken care of by all my sea salt baths.
So, I don't know if Cumanda relieves itching on a personal level. When I do have an area that itches (every once in a while), I use the soap, cream, and oil-bar developed by the nurse in Florida. I find that when I use the soap on an itchy area -- little short straight black fibers come out and the itching disappears completely.
I also use the cream every week end on the bumps, soars, and bites I get every week at work. Gets rid of them fast, along with the Ojon hair-care treatment I do every week end.
Last week, I had an abundance of 'crawlies' every evening. That's gone now. Along with the 'crawlies', I had a lot of stuff surfacing on my skin that I could rub off with my hands. I think my body s pushing this stuff to the surface and my skin was sluffing it off. I had a few days of intense 'sluffing', and then the 'crawlies' were gone.
I think the healing with the Cumanda is cyclical -- just like Morgs is.
Also, if you don't have Babesia, you should strongly consider JWF's advice and do the Samento. He's right on about it.
I'm only doing the Cumanda only as I had such great results with it on my skin. So much so that I thought that if it is doing such a nice job helping my body rid these things from my skin, then it stands to reason that it will also do the same internally.
The reason I will start with the Quina (eventually) is that I have Babs and Dr. Cowden recommends alternating the Cumanda with Quina first if you have Babs. Otherwise, he recommends to all others to start alternating Cumanda with Samento. Makes sense to me.
His protocol is specifically for LD. I too, had and still have a very good feeling about this.
I have not noticed the Cumanda doing anything to prevent being bitten (maybe though as I have less and less bites on my head since I've been taking it), yet when I get a new one -- its gone in a couple of days -- can't seem to take hold.
But, who knows, I've only been doing it for 3 weeks now.
I have to say, I am excited to hear that you are trying it. Your knowledge and expertise, combined with your acute observational skills -- as you already know, I have tons of respect for you.
hugs, life
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