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Post by Angel on Jul 4, 2005 13:22:16 GMT -5
www.alliance-natural-health.org/index.cfm?action=wbs2click on view. This scares me so much to think this is actually a fact. Right now the drug companies are licking their lips as they await the potential of taking away our herbs and vitamins. They do not care about us, only their profits. They want to line their greedy pockets with our blood. In the last two decades I have noticed that more and more people in general know about herbs and are using them. Herbal knowledge has become very widespread and less and less people want to take drugs as their side effects are scary and a real threat. Thousands upon thousands die yearly from the side effects. So many centuries of herbal wisdom, will be raked into the garbage bin never to return. Oh , woe is all humanity. If they have their way, all the generations to come will suffer. It is time to speak up. One day will we go to jail for selling vitamin C??? Angel
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Post by Angel on Jul 4, 2005 13:26:03 GMT -5
From a reliable person on another board, I deleted his name for obvious reasons....because I copied this but you probably know where the original post came from. ---------------------------------------------------------- I was thinking that CODEX was not a real threat anymore. But I got this from a very reliable professional yesterday. The big meeting is taking place July 5-12 and we need to voice our feelings concerning the lose of our freedom of choice concerning our health. June 30, 2005 This is AN URGENT CRISIS: As unbelievable as it sounds, we in the U.S. are again on the verge next week of losing our right to use dietary supplements and nutrients. The International Codex Alimentarius (food code) Commission meets July 5-9, 2005 in Rome to ratify the Vitamin and Mineral Guideline for ALL members of the World Trade Organization (WTO), including the United States. This guideline was developed by a United Nations Committee under the auspices of the World Health Organization. Once ratified, all members of the WTO, including the U.S., would be LEGALLY bound to abide by the rules of the Vitamin and Mineral Guideline and compliance would be mandatory in Europe beginning as early as this summer and in this country as early as next year. The Vitamin and Mineral Guideline states, as summarized by Rima Liabow, M.D of the Natural Solutions Foundation, to the American Academy of Environmental Medicine: 1) "All therapeutic nutrients will be illegal for use unless tested as drugs before January 2010 and altogether after that date. 2) The application period for testing of a nutrient as a drug closes July 12, 2005 and virtually all applications (which cost approximately $800,000 dollars) have been rejected. 3) The Vitamin and Mineral Guideline will allow only a few ultra low dose vitamins and minerals and only in the synthetic, pharmaceutical-company manufactured formulations. 4) ALL OTHER VITAMINS AND MINERALS, AND ANY MORE POTENT DOSES, WILL BE ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES WHICH CANNOT BE OBTAINED WITH OR WITHOUT A PHYSICIAN'S PRESCRIPTION." "The Chairman of the CODEX Committee for Nutrients and Foods for Special Dietary Purposes, Dr. Rolf Grossklaus, has publicly declared that 'Nutrition has no place in medicine" and nutrients may not be used to 'prevent, treat, or cure any disease or condition.'" We have naively thought we in the U.S. were protected by our hard-won Dietary Supplements Health Education Act (DSHEA), which was passed by Congress in 1994 to protect our right to use dietary nutrients as foods. The international Vitamin and Mineral Guideline will supersede our own laws, unless we act now to prevent this. We DO have an advocate for the protection of our own laws allowing the use of dietary nutrients as foods and not highly restricted pharmaceutical substances, Dr. Edward Scarbrough, U.S. Manager for Codex. But Dr. Scarbrough can't act alone without concrete proof of a flood of US citizens' support for his position. PLEASE WRITE NOW with a Citizen's Petition to express your support. A letter is available by clicking here www.coem.com/whatsnewdetailpage.asp?id=15 that you can copy and paste into and email or print the letter out and fax, or write your own letter to Dr. Scarbrough. WRITE. Ignorance and inactivity on this issue have resulted in it getting this far. We are truly in imminent danger of losing our right to the natural prevention and treatment of disease. Please click on the below link for a more detailed report on the CODEX: www.healthfreedomusa.org/petition/petition.pdfWE ARE FAST RUNNING OUT OF TIME PLEASE DO THIS TODAY!!
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Post by bugged1 on Jul 5, 2005 2:06:12 GMT -5
Playin devil's advocate here...
A lot of herbs have caused real complications, either when used in combo with pharmecueticals or on their own (like ephedra). I don't think these herbs will become "unavailable" but I do think they will and SHOULD be regulated based upon the CLAIMS they make. One of the major drawbacks to the ZERO regs currently in place is that NO ONE is making sure these herbal products even contain the percent actives let alone what they list! (several studies have shown this). The herbal supplement companies then thro in this spin that you've totally boughten into when, IN FACT, it is THEIR greed driving this too! They don't want to have to PAY for any extra regulation or to have a QC dept.! The same regs that will protect the consumer!!!
My point of view,
Chemist G
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Post by special guest star on Jul 7, 2005 3:07:11 GMT -5
Regulated is one thing. They are removing them altogether, making them totally illegal. I will be breaking that law. Sorry, I consider myself law abiding but this is ridiculous.
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Post by Chemist G on Jul 7, 2005 3:16:39 GMT -5
That won't happen and don't believe everything you read! That one's right up there with making peeps believe Bush's enviro policy means clearcutting all the forests until no trees are left. It's a total joke so please don't be so gullible!
Chemist G
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Post by special guest star on Jul 7, 2005 3:34:22 GMT -5
I really hope you are right. I really do.
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Post by jj on Jul 7, 2005 7:59:35 GMT -5
Playin devil's advocate here... A lot of herbs have caused real complications, either when used in combo with pharmecueticals or on their own (like ephedra). I don't think these herbs will become "unavailable" but I do think they will and SHOULD be regulated based upon the CLAIMS they make. One of the major drawbacks to the ZERO regs currently in place is that NO ONE is making sure these herbal products even contain the percent actives let alone what they list! (several studies have shown this). The herbal supplement companies then thro in this spin that you've totally boughten into when, IN FACT, it is THEIR greed driving this too! They don't want to have to PAY for any extra regulation or to have a QC dept.! The same regs that will protect the consumer!!! My point of view, Chemist G I understand your point .......... BUT there ARE MANY reputable companies selling nutritional supplements and herbals that follow a strict standardized protocol as well as some that don't. We as the consumer have the responciblity to do all the research on the product, it's attributes, possible side effects and interactions with other herbals, supplements and pharmecueticals. The side effects and interactions from most of pharmecueticals/chemicals are far greater. As far as the ephedra is concerned, can you explain why the FDA has now approved a synthetic version of ephedra? I personally feel more comfortable taking something NATURAL that god put on this planet than some CHEMICALS that were developed in a lab. This apears to be your livelyhood and I hold nothing against your choice but others here who have the right to choose a natural treatment for their health need to know that right could very well be in jeopardy. I for one will not sit back and just wonder if one day I will loose that right. I will be a voice of many and state my mind on this matter. What concerns me the most is that the codex issue isn't in the mainstream news. Anyone ask yourself why that is? Think maybe that would generate TOO MUCH attention? Pharmacueticals is BIG BUSINESS. Alternative/natural healthcare is getting bigger and more of a threat. Still hangin, JJ
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Post by Chemist G on Jul 8, 2005 20:53:47 GMT -5
It's not my livlihood - I sell and formulate industrial chemicals to keep your homes free of mold and sick home syndrome. In fact, I buy a LOT of bodybuilding supplements from health food stores, I'd even dare to say I buy more supplements than anyone on this forum. You already alluded to the whole point tho - about half of the producers already have good QC and are reputable while who knows about the other half. The ones IN compliance have nothing to worry about and their prices WON'T go up because they don't have anything to hide. The others NEED this regulation, trust me! It's these punks that don't put half the ingredients in their supps and CHEAT the consumer that are creating this "sky is falling" syndrome that the uneducated are buying into! Whereas companies like TwinLabs and Nature's Way have nothing to fear.
Chemist G
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Post by JohnLIB on Jul 8, 2005 21:52:13 GMT -5
Chemist G,
I hope you are correct. But sometimes making assumptions can mean taking the risk of being wrong. I doubt that you take more supplements than I do and I also doubt that you are as educated as I am.
I also initially thought that this was not going to happen; however, I am not as secure in that thinking as I was a month ago.
Lesser is Better
John
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