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Post by Angel on Jul 16, 2005 12:43:12 GMT -5
I would like to ask this group if they can help me. I pray someone can. Back in Sept. I started with classic itching crawling biting salt and pepper things and fiber balls all over my house, like teenie footballs....in the car on the dash, everywhere. The beginning of my hell. I had mites crawling all over me and 3 x a night had to bathe and use vicks in my ears, nose etc. They just kept hatching etc and I got rid of them with salt scrubs---dampen salt and put it in your head and scrub.....when they are out is the most effective time. I got rid of the fibers with worms when I started washing clothes and everything else around the house with ammonia 1/4 C to cold water wash and put in a spray bottle too to spray house. This causes them to explode and die. I then broke out in pustules...boils....all over my chest and arms. This was a mess and I think the reason I did not get lesions that became massive is that I took pomegranate with 40% eligiac 3 weeks after this started. They have all disappeared now and I have teenie scars on my chest...but it is not over yet. But here I am now, no fiber balls in the house as i use Ammonia spray to kill the worms inside. I still have salt in the bed but no black specks Bugs are not crawling around in my head I dont have extreme b.o. but now it is a sweet odor they say this is part of the disease, that worms poop in our bodies and this causes the bacteria. I dont have night sweats Here is what I did to help myself--I am so thankful I found this product as it was an answer to my prayer www.roeschnaturalfoods.com/I started drinking this 3 T. once a day and right away things turned around. You can check the ingredients , one big one is allisure which is a no smell garlic. I have tried everything in the book and have spent all my money only to find the greens did the trick. Well that is internal---I use the greens for that for internal worms etc. I have a problem as I have seen threadworms in the toilet and a lot of other things like pieces of tapeworms, eggs etc. I took flagyl and vermox and some black walnut and all that but still have them. Before I took flagyl, I could feel something alive in my intestines and now that is gone....hope it stays gone. I have been soaking in Johnson's lavender baby oil. Then I use a St. Ives scrub for blemish control, really good. Then I pat dry and use HEMP LOTION $4.77 at walmart This is very powerful stuff as I let it dry down and go outside on the patio and rub out these worms. Now it is larvae, worms , you name it. They have a sort of split on their tail. Does anyone know what this is and what I can do. By the way....this started happening with the skin after the greens so I am sure it has something to do with this---maybe purging. The Hemp is what is making them come out---the oil causes them to slip out of the pores and the Hemp has oil in it too. What would you suggest. I am perplexed as to why this is coming out of my skin and it is also draining out of my head and sinuses. Yep thats right.....I know because I have seen them. They look like hookworms. So this is my appeal for help. Do any of you have this mess. Also how can I clean larvae out of my carpet......how in the world do I do this?. This house was new when we bought it, but had previous owners. They were here 6 months. He was from Jamaica. We moved in in April and by Sept I had this. So it was here before we came here....now what to do about the environment. Angel sedonia7@msn.com
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Post by Chemist G on Jul 16, 2005 14:24:01 GMT -5
Steam clean your carpet and furniture and see a parasitologist about the worms - they aren't associated with Morgs.
Best of luck to you and get well soon,
Chemist G
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Post by Dr Jekyl on Jul 16, 2005 19:51:23 GMT -5
Steam clean your carpet and furniture and see a parasitologist about the worms - they aren't associated with Morgs. Best of luck to you and get well soon, Chemist G This is not true. I was full of worms. I have taken eight months of flagyl not just one dose. Also mebendazole and Albendazole and a dose of moxidectin and Ivermectin. It took well over a year to get rid of them. Saw the best Parasitologist on the east coast Dr Leon Smith. Guess what he found... no worms although I was purging them and actual insects. Gave me the ole DOP. This was after The doctors at NYU watched me hatch live bugs out of my abdomen. What did they do pray tell? ......Give me a script for a pesticide and a referral to a Psychiatrist.
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Post by bb on Jul 16, 2005 20:40:40 GMT -5
I get things off my skin when I rub oils on it, especially castor oil and diluted oil of orgeno. You are definitely not alone.
It sounds like you are doing all the right things, but I would strongly advice everyone to get rid of their carpet and cloth furniture. If they don't have all these places to reproduce they won't multilply as fast, which lessens their attacks.
I've been spraying colloidial silver on my sheets and pillow just before bed, seems to help.
The number one treatment I believe is the infra-red sauna. After about 20 to 25 minutes I began getting them off of me. When I first get in I can feel them reacting to the heat, I can even feel them dying on my skin, especially my face.
I had them in my sinuses too, and got rid of them with colloidial silver. Also use it and/or oils in your ears.
I was coughing up several grayish-brown globs at a time, in clear, normal sputum. I expelled them for about 10 days and then it stopped. I was taking sulfa drugs and antibiotics at the time.
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Post by rickndebby on Jul 16, 2005 20:56:43 GMT -5
Hi BB, This " colloidial silver "..what exactly is it and how can we get it? By the way... thanks for all of your postings....Rick of rickndebby
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Post by Lisa on Jul 16, 2005 22:10:57 GMT -5
"about the worms - they aren't associated with Morgs"
I thought that was still up for debate? Especially considering we don't know what we are dealing with. Since I'm not sure what's involved....parasite, bacteria, fungus, or a manmadewe'llneverfigureitout, I try and keep an open mind. I'm not saying worms are involved, but take a look at the toxic worm info on susiebelle's thread - cryptostrongylus.
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Post by ANTHILL on Jul 16, 2005 22:45:43 GMT -5
about the worms - they aren't associated with Morgs"
we just don't know yet do we? all those little doctors with the little halos above there heads and the steel hard convictions that we are delusional are doing all they can to find out right?
---the infrared BB talked about ----I am much better just using three 250w bulbs on a light stand I'm going for UV generator next
oil or lotion rubbing it in as---in a hard deep massage gets them out and keeping my body well oiled at all times helps too
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Post by justice on Jul 16, 2005 23:32:05 GMT -5
Hi Angel~ Wow! You are all over this thing. I'm definately going to try the products/herbs/oils you have suggested. Some I've already been using and have helped immensely. As for the worms with the forked tail, I've got them too. I have been assuming everyone had them as well and didn't merrit anything new. I am very surprised to hear this isn't true. Upon first viewing these things (approx. 3 years ago) under my scope (unfortunately I've been a sufferer for around 5 or 6 yrs~ maybe longer?), I wasn't sure if I was viewing the head or tail (couldn't make heads or tails of it! Ha ha?). The article containing 'the letter to Sir Thomas Brown' had mentioned "horns" on them, so I was unsure at first. It's definately a forked tail. Thanks again for all of your remedies! Justice
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Post by Chemist G on Jul 17, 2005 2:09:37 GMT -5
Steam clean your carpet and furniture and see a parasitologist about the worms - they aren't associated with Morgs. Best of luck to you and get well soon, Chemist G This is not true. I was full of worms. I have taken eight months of flagyl not just one dose. Also mebendazole and Albendazole and a dose of moxidectin and Ivermectin. It took well over a year to get rid of them. Saw the best Parasitologist on the east coast Dr Leon Smith. Guess what he found... no worms although I was purging them and actual insects. Gave me the ole DOP. This was after The doctors at NYU watched me hatch live bugs out of my abdomen. What did they do pray tell? ......Give me a script for a pesticide and a referral to a Psychiatrist. Hey, I don't doubt you one bit about the "bugs" - it seems collembola (springtail larvae) is somehow intertwined with advanced cases so that's probably what you were seeing but I'm a firm believer that NO worms nor nematodes are involved. The flagella from bacteria CAN appear wormlike and that's my explanation for any worms you've seen. Also the sprintails have appeared fibrous and wormlike. In fact, from what I know if Morgs and effective antibiotics, I'll bet my life no worms are involved. Chemist G
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Post by susiebelle on Jul 17, 2005 4:07:08 GMT -5
I don't think I would bet my life. People with compromised immune systems are usually infected with many different types of parasites and other pathogens.
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Post by Rolo aka Orion on Jul 17, 2005 4:49:50 GMT -5
I agree with chemist--this sure is not the morg. or organism that I recognize with the filariosis... First off--I am unable to see any thing with the naked eye---there are parasits and then there is morgellons. A whole lot of the posts I read here I do not relate to at all. Best to become acquainted with the creature that your chasing if you expect to catch it.
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Post by bugged1 on Jul 17, 2005 5:22:14 GMT -5
I don't think I would bet my life. People with compromised immune systems are usually infected with many different types of parasites and other pathogens. Susiebelle - Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU! I did some serious pondering on your post (after a few strong brews) and it hit me like a ton of bricks: I know what we're dealing with!!! At first I got a good laugh out of the "warts' thread but I'm not laughing now. Chlamydia is a bacterium that shares viral properties making it extremely hard to pinpoint, thus it was misdiagnosed for years. They cannot be gram stained because of their size and cannot be cultured because they need living cells for their source of energy (thus the "stay away from sugar dealio"). Furthermore they do not have a peptidoglycan layer so the penecillin derivatives do ZERO against them!!! Same deal here - this pathogen is a bacteria with viral properties. The three main drug classes effective against chlamydia are the tetracyclines, sulfa drugs, and fluroquinolones. Guess what's working against morgs??? YES - only those same three! Coincidence??? NO QUESTION - I KNOW WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH! DONE DEAL! UNREAL!!! This may be sexually transmitted. CHEMIST G
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Post by Dr Jekyl on Jul 17, 2005 9:08:54 GMT -5
Steam clean your carpet and furniture and see a parasitologist about the worms - they aren't associated with Morgs. Best of luck to you and get well soon, Chemist G This is not true. I was full of worms. I have taken eight months of flagyl not just one dose. Also mebendazole and Albendazole and a dose of moxidectin and Ivermectin. It took well over a year to get rid of them. Saw the best Parasitologist on the east coast Dr Leon Smith. Guess what he found... no worms although I was purging them and actual insects. Gave me the ole DOP. This was after The doctors at NYU watched me hatch live bugs out of my abdomen. What did they do pray tell? ......Give me a script for a pesticide and a referral to a Psychiatrist. Hey, I don't doubt you one bit about the "bugs" - it seems collembola (springtail larvae) is somehow intertwined with advanced cases so that's probably what you were seeing but I'm a firm believer that NO worms nor nematodes are involved. The flagella from bacteria CAN appear wormlike and that's my explanation for any worms you've seen. Also the sprintails have appeared fibrous and wormlike. In fact, from what I know if Morgs and effective antibiotics, I'll bet my life no worms are involved. Chemist G Im not talking just springtails chemist, Im talking about bugs as big as flys. Eating their way out of me. Maybe we need to talk. I never found any proof of Collembola. And the worms in my stool and skin were huge and at least between 1 and 6 inches. Thats the reason I never wanted to view anything in a micrscope. Everything was right there to see. Its only now that things are so minute that you almost cant see it.
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Post by bb on Jul 17, 2005 11:35:44 GMT -5
I talked to woman with our symptoms who has 3/4 inch long bugs coming out of her skin. She is going on 7 years. Her bf committed suicide after 2 years.
rickndebby, you are very welcomed. Also check out Cumanda. It is a tree bark extract that kills many bad things in your system. Start slow on anything you try.
You can buy colloidial silver at any pharmacy or health store. It is the original antibiotics, and is awesome. Things won't build up resistance to it. It is absolutely non-toxic. You can put it in your eyes and take it internally. It's only good for you, and will kill bad things in your system. I am spraying anywhere that itches, as well as spraying my bed with it.
I have seen the worms with split tails under the microscope. Sometimes the split is on the side. But I have also seen microscopic springtails, louse-looking bug, occasional mites, thread-like worms (nematodes?), flies, fleas, and more. Seems like the nematodes are the only thing that is proliferate. And I do feel things crawling up my legs so maybe all these bugs are feeding off us. However, I think this is a parasitic fly with a parasitic infection. The very aggressively parasitic fly lives in our hair, bed, carpet, etc. It bites us and gives us skin parasites.
Remember my story, after going to Mexico I came down with this, moved out of our home in the RV, and while trying to burn everything some carpet sat outside too long and things started hatching out of it (I guess) because we never had no-see-ums before. First there were flea-like things biting my ankles, but I couldn't see them, and at that time I had no idea how to even begin to catch microscopic things. Then there was the biting below the waist from a flying insect. It was like the flea-things hatched into flying-things. They were biting the hell out of only me, and where they bit I had itching and crawling.
Does anyone else get more crawling after doing yardwork? I can't even rake leaves anymore. It's just not worth the misery.
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Post by Chemist G on Jul 17, 2005 11:52:01 GMT -5
BB,
I think there are quite a few on this board that don't have Morgs but DO have parasitic infections with some of the same symptoms.
Be Well,
G
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Post by bb on Jul 17, 2005 12:01:00 GMT -5
Yep, there are many diseases and conditions that can cause our symptoms. That is exactly what I put in my letter to Laura Bush. However, we will never know what we have if no one ever examines us.
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Post by Angel on Jul 17, 2005 14:49:10 GMT -5
I have a portable infa red indoor sauna because someone said this is the best thing for us. I bought it wholesale at EYI on the net. So I use it and sweat Afterwards I feel so much better. But don't know why this works, do you. It is supposed to also do something for our organs. I thank you for all of your help. About your drugs, what are they called. Thanks to all for everyone's support and encouragement, sometimes I think I am going nutts. Do you think it would do any good to go see a paristologists. I am going to steam clean at a $400 price, but we are considering yanking them all up and pitching them out. This morning, as always, in the mornings.....I was being bit by teenie biting midges---little black flies. They are all over. I have to wear two Sunbeam mosquito repellors---they work and if I dont wear them I get eaten up by these. Anyway, the other thing I do is wear a straw hat. So they wont bit my head....maybe that is why I had worms in my scalp....I think that was it. Use Selsun blue now and they are gone.....let it sit for 15 min, this is what the phar. tech said to do as it has sulfur in it. The midges leave around 11 and are gone til the next morning same time same station. We live 5 miles or so from a stockyard used to fatten up beef that is transported here....and then slaughtered. So, I guess they drift my way from there. It was windy last night and thats when it is worse for me. All that plus the worms and larvae-----acceptance is hard. I know this is not going to go away until we get someone to research it. So I have to accept. I am grateful, so far, that I don't have worse symptoms. I dont know about drugs, already did flagyl and vermox. I am in favor for the greens trying to make my body unfriendly to all of the above. That is working to a large degree. Whatever will be will be, the future is not for us to know. Angel [/quote]
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Post by Chemist G on Jul 17, 2005 17:26:56 GMT -5
I talked to woman with our symptoms who has 3/4 inch long bugs coming out of her skin. She is going on 7 years. Her bf committed suicide after 2 years. rickndebby, you are very welcomed. Also check out Cumanda. It is a tree bark extract that kills many bad things in your system. Start slow on anything you try. You can buy colloidial silver at any pharmacy or health store. It is the original antibiotics, and is awesome. Things won't build up resistance to it. It is absolutely non-toxic. You can put it in your eyes and take it internally. It's only good for you, and will kill bad things in your system. I am spraying anywhere that itches, as well as spraying my bed with it. I have seen the worms with split tails under the microscope. Sometimes the split is on the side. But I have also seen microscopic springtails, louse-looking bug, occasional mites, thread-like worms (nematodes?), flies, fleas, and more. Seems like the nematodes are the only thing that is proliferate. And I do feel things crawling up my legs so maybe all these bugs are feeding off us. However, I think this is a parasitic fly with a parasitic infection. The very aggressively parasitic fly lives in our hair, bed, carpet, etc. It bites us and gives us skin parasites. Remember my story, after going to Mexico I came down with this, moved out of our home in the RV, and while trying to burn everything some carpet sat outside too long and things started hatching out of it (I guess) because we never had no-see-ums before. First there were flea-like things biting my ankles, but I couldn't see them, and at that time I had no idea how to even begin to catch microscopic things. Then there was the biting below the waist from a flying insect. It was like the flea-things hatched into flying-things. They were biting the hell out of only me, and where they bit I had itching and crawling. Does anyone else get more crawling after doing yardwork? I can't even rake leaves anymore. It's just not worth the misery. Silver is absolutely non-toxic? Hmmm, wonder how it works then - LMAO! Typically I'll blow off a statement like that as scientific illiteracy but not when the potential dangers of someone listening to that bad advice can be adversely affected: www.clspress.com/tox.htmlJust becaue it's sold at a "health food store" doesn't mean it can't be toxic depending on the dose. Just one more reason that industry NEEDS regulation!!! Chemist G
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Post by Chemist G on Jul 17, 2005 17:48:48 GMT -5
I talked to woman with our symptoms who has 3/4 inch long bugs coming out of her skin. She is going on 7 years. Her bf committed suicide after 2 years. rickndebby, you are very welcomed. Also check out Cumanda. It is a tree bark extract that kills many bad things in your system. Start slow on anything you try. You can buy colloidial silver at any pharmacy or health store. It is the original antibiotics, and is awesome. Things won't build up resistance to it. It is absolutely non-toxic. You can put it in your eyes and take it internally. It's only good for you, and will kill bad things in your system. I am spraying anywhere that itches, as well as spraying my bed with it. I have seen the worms with split tails under the microscope. Sometimes the split is on the side. But I have also seen microscopic springtails, louse-looking bug, occasional mites, thread-like worms (nematodes?), flies, fleas, and more. Seems like the nematodes are the only thing that is proliferate. And I do feel things crawling up my legs so maybe all these bugs are feeding off us. However, I think this is a parasitic fly with a parasitic infection. The very aggressively parasitic fly lives in our hair, bed, carpet, etc. It bites us and gives us skin parasites. Remember my story, after going to Mexico I came down with this, moved out of our home in the RV, and while trying to burn everything some carpet sat outside too long and things started hatching out of it (I guess) because we never had no-see-ums before. First there were flea-like things biting my ankles, but I couldn't see them, and at that time I had no idea how to even begin to catch microscopic things. Then there was the biting below the waist from a flying insect. It was like the flea-things hatched into flying-things. They were biting the hell out of only me, and where they bit I had itching and crawling. Does anyone else get more crawling after doing yardwork? I can't even rake leaves anymore. It's just not worth the misery. As for the bugs - one could easily argue they arise from opportunistic pathogens as a secondary infection totally unrelated to the initial condition (Morgs). Seems to me someone asleep in bed with lesions all over their body and a suppressed immune system would be a prefect target for insect pathogens! I'll stick to my guns - Morgs is about bacteria, not insects, not worms, not nematodes. Can the others happen in a Morgs patient? Sure! But that's not at the root of the problem, the bacteria IS and the sooner you all get that in your heads then the sooner you all can start getting better!!! Do you think that Dr. Savely, Dr. Schwartz, Dr. Marshall, myself and all the others that have successfully treated this are all wrong??? Pass the antibiotics and BE WELL PEEPS!!! Chemist G
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Post by jj on Jul 17, 2005 19:06:24 GMT -5
[/quote] Do you think that Dr. Savely, Dr. Schwartz, Dr. Marshall, myself and all the others that have successfully treated this are all wrong???
Chemist G[/quote] ........... My, My. Rank yourself right up there with Ginger Savely why don't ya. Mighty impressive. Thing is she would never tell someone what they DO or DON'T HAVE without even SEEING them. ..... Still hangin, JJ
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