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Post by Chemist G on Jun 25, 2005 15:21:04 GMT -5
The borax trick helps but DAE (diatomaceous earth) is safer and works about 5 times more effective (and this is coming from someone who sells borates). Combine it with an enzyme cleaner and you'll have the best and safest plant soil fungicide/insecticide you can find. Not only that, but I am now convinced that repeated application of that combo IS the answer to everyone's prayers here. But what do I know? I'm only a chemist working for one of the largest industrial biochem companies in the USA.
Have FUN,
G
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Post by Hope on Jun 25, 2005 16:14:22 GMT -5
Dear Chemist G, Welcome to Lymbusters and thanks for the advice! I’ll try it as soon as I can. Do you have any idea as to how long before a difference is noticed? How long to use the products? How do you know this will work? Do you know if this will eradicate the fibers in my body? I have no bugs, just the fibers. What do you recommend to take internally? What are your thoughts as to what these fibers are? You must know somebody with this because I cannot understand why else you are interested in it or know anything about it. Thanks for your help!!! All of us here really need a good chemist. Peace, Hope P.S. I have had dramatic effects from an anti-malarial drug called Malarone. Any thoughts as to why this might be? I’m one of the few that are not convinced that this is a parasite but am confused as to why they would respond to an anti-parasitic drug.
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Post by hg on Jun 26, 2005 1:48:20 GMT -5
I'm not about to put earth on my carpet, intuition tells me so, the breeding process occurs in earth, its part of the lifecycle of the fly. The fly is involved, those are the little black spots.
What's in the body is like a toxic leech, the same worm in toxic pools of water. They are similar to the snail and go crazy when you feed them salt.
Toxic fly fishing.
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Post by Hope on Jun 26, 2005 12:23:52 GMT -5
Diatomaceous earth is a naturally occurring substance comprised of the fossilized remains of diatoms. Diatoms are microscopic sized hard shelled creatures found in both marine and fresh waters. The diatom shells are covered in sharp spines that make them dangerous to exoskeletal insects, but not to animals with internal skeletons. The spines of the diatom skeletons pierce the soft body tissues of insects between their hard exoskeletal plates and it is through these numerous microscopic wounds that the insect loses bodily moisture to the point of desiccating and dying. Creatures with internal skeletons such as humans, cattle and pets have means of resisting such damage and are not harmed. Thus, it is possible to mix a small amount of DE into your stored grains and beans to deter insect infestations without having to remove the dust again before you consume them. Diatomaceous earth works in a purely physical and not chemical manner and thus has no chemical toxicity. waltonfeed.com/grain/faqs/ive.htmlOne of the very first articles I ever read on this disease was on Mr. X and he used this too. Medical Write up for Mr. X - His story of treating skin parasite(s) Strongylus monospinigerum - (temporary name given for this in China) General description: An unidentified organism, which is infesting more and more homes across the country. This particular creature apparently houses itself in lint-like fibers which it seems to weave into a tiny ball, like a nest or cocoon, and contacting human skin via floors or clothing, bores into human tissue to take up residence in the body. (Regular laundering with hot water and detergent apparently does nothing to kill the organism in clothing). Once in the body the following symptoms result: www.safe2use.com/pests/scabies/gettingridof/030.htmI'm ready and willing. I need instructions on how to use it too.
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Post by Orion*** on Jun 26, 2005 16:56:54 GMT -5
i think alot of this is vectored by an insect. i don't think we all have the same exact thing. i think we all have compromised immune systems from any number of toxins and various combinations. i'm sure mercury is a huge contributing factor, but it's not the whole picture. when your immune system is worn down by toxins it can cease to function properly and parasites (whether they be mold, fungus, insects, worms, or a combination) try to help our bodies continue the decay that has already been going on. in my case i've been exposed to mold or fungus where i live for the past two years. i've been sick alot since living here and it led to these symptoms. things are getting better. we are going to move soon and we have been building our health up in many areas. it takes alot of diligence. i know i'm close to having it beat. †††††††††† orion, as far as the ALS (it's my dad who has it), at least 90% of cases are [[[[spontanious.]]]] (nothing is spontanious--there is a reason for every thing) the other, at least, 7% is familial and found on the 21st genetic marker in dna. having the gene doesn't automatically mean you will develop it, but it makes you very suseptible. i'm sure there are external triggers for the both types. my dad has at least a few fillings he should get removed. i hope he goes for it! he's got a great attitude and constitution. anyways, it runs in my family. it's not something new for me to watch. i've seen it a few times. i just decided that since i've been researching so heavily i would get some updates on people dealing with ALS while i'm at it. the best site i found was www.ericiswinning.com ... this guy is doing exemplary considering what he is fighting!! and what he has learned about health and toxicity applies to many afflictions i'm certain. again, he says get rid of the fillings and mercury AS WELL AS other toxins, which can be many. he says ph balnce in the body is critical, which is somthing i've been aware of for many years. because of what he is faced with, his sensitivities are such that he is able to tell the slightest effect of any additions or subtractions to his diet and regimin. there's more info on his site and it's worth checking out!! we just all have to do the best we can with what we have and then try to do better if it doesn't work. if you continue doing what you've always done, you'll continue to get what you've always gotten... i sincerely wish for better than best for us all! --=-=-=-=- In reguard to ALS Has your father ever been tested for lyme? Please read the following link. > Godlike Productions -- Forum Archives Address:http://www.godlikeproductions.com/bbs/aitem.php?message=86632&show=0305 >
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Post by Lisa on Jun 26, 2005 18:53:51 GMT -5
Diatomaceous earth is what helped a woman's parents a few years back. She occassionally came to the board and posted, but she always was firm on the fact that using DE on the skin is what healed them. What I don't remember though, is if they ingested any? If it's food grade, I think it's safe.....but check on that to make sure. I have some sitting in a cabinet right now that I bought from safe2use. I have sprinkled it in my carpets before.
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Post by bugged1 on Jun 27, 2005 3:57:23 GMT -5
Hi Hope! (certainly like your screen name, is that your real name too?) Well I have contracted light symptoms so I've been researching tools for our arsenal against this pest, thus my involvement with the forum. Differences are noticed IMMEDIATELY! You can either rub it on your skin (probably the best thing to do at first, right before bedtime) or you can make a suspension of it in water - I use 8 level teaspoons in a quart of water with 3 oz of enzyme cleaner and spray it on my body. My improvements have been dramatic over the enzyme alone (which does seem to help some but not all that well alone). I can sleep at night now without all the crawling sensations! And the black specks disappear. As for ingesting it, the food grade is for animal feed where it's used to prevent insect infestations. I don't think it would have a benefit for what we have. As for the antimalaria drug, I'm sure that's related to a bacterial issue (possibly babeseosis) related to the fly vector that attacks red blood cells. This all seems linked to Lyme somehow and I did have tick bites and Lyme symptoms 10 years ago and now this happens to me (5 months ago). I was tested then and just last week and have gotten negative results but may enlist the services of IGeneX. The one thing I cannot get rid of is the "bite or stinging feeling". These are very localized - always in or near the same spot on my skin. An internal drug may be needed to eradicate these and I've heard of good results with sulfa-drugs but would like to get input from members here on what they've tried, and to what success. If I can gather enough info, and we go about this scientifically, I can assure you our chances of the "CURE" are much greater than sitting around pointing fingers and running on blind intuition. Also I do want to point out that reinfestation seems to occur on a rather high basis as this parasite seems to reproduce in/on cotton fiber which will be a problem for eradicating it from our lives. So far I have found that washing in hot water and drying on high does ZERO against them and the same can be said for microwaving. Borax helps as does ammonia but only ironing or freezing my clothes has really seemed to have eliminated them. I could use some data in this area too so please come forward with info. My bedding has become a nightmare. Has anyone tried polyester sheets? I have a microscope better than your dermatologists sitting on my desk, 2 possible vectors on slides, and a multi-million dollar biochem corporation at my disposal. You had better believe I'm going to try to help! This is going to become an epidemic of much larger proportions and I intend to stop it. God bless you ALL and thanks for reading, Chemist G Dear Chemist G, Welcome to Lymbusters and thanks for the advice! I’ll try it as soon as I can. Do you have any idea as to how long before a difference is noticed? How long to use the products? How do you know this will work? Do you know if this will eradicate the fibers in my body? I have no bugs, just the fibers. What do you recommend to take internally? What are your thoughts as to what these fibers are? You must know somebody with this because I cannot understand why else you are interested in it or know anything about it. Thanks for your help!!! All of us here really need a good chemist. Peace, Hope P.S. I have had dramatic effects from an anti-malarial drug called Malarone. Any thoughts as to why this might be? I’m one of the few that are not convinced that this is a parasite but am confused as to why they would respond to an anti-parasitic drug.
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Post by hg on Jun 27, 2005 12:00:02 GMT -5
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Post by Lisa on Jun 27, 2005 14:06:43 GMT -5
"You had better believe I'm going to try to help!"
I am very happy to read those words.
In regards to washing clothes..... You're right about the hot water and dryer not helping, so that's why I wash in cold. I have seen an improvement with the clothes infestation. It's not gone completely and I still get the stings, but it's better than before. I'll take whatever clothing off and sure enough, right where I felt it, there is one of these things in the same place on the clothing. I put the dryer on medium and only leave them in until they are just dry enough. I will also spray the enzyme cleaner on them.....which by the way, is excellent at getting out wrinkles. It seems to me that the heat just stirs them up.
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Post by resilience on Jun 27, 2005 20:56:57 GMT -5
ahh, there's been alot of activity here the past few days. i didn't know you could mix diatomacious earth with enzymes, thanks chemist! i just know that you should not use it in powder form in your house because it is very bad to breath. i haven't tried the following, but i have seen that there is a type that you can take internally. chemist, they use borax in some bathing products ... is it ok in the bath? orion, my dad has not been tested for lyme. although he's very positive about what he's going through he's kind of stubborn about some things. he said he was tested for mercury and it came back that he was ok. it's such an awful disease! again, it's genetic in my family so it's a little different than the spontatneous type. onward good people! best, resilience
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Post by Chemist G on Jun 27, 2005 22:09:53 GMT -5
Borax buffers to a pH of about 9.5 in 100 ml water so it is rather alkaline and not real safe for a bath. I wouldn't use much more than a couple tablespoons with 2-4 oz of enzyme cleaner in a tub full of water.
Cheers,
Chemist G
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Post by special guest star on Jun 28, 2005 0:13:11 GMT -5
I've only used about a tablespoon at once. It's TOO alkaline for my tastes. I don't use it in every bath, either. I use the enzymes every bath, and the temp is always below 110*, so the enzymes don't change or die. I've had pretty good luck, except I need 2 of those a day or I freak out.
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Post by debbie unlogged on Jun 28, 2005 9:31:21 GMT -5
Hi all I'd like to say welcome to all those I have not said it to before. SORRY YOU HAVE TO BE HERE... Great to have a chemist aboard ... HG, Reslience & everyone else, your input has been great...I'll add more when my minds thinking a little better..... Night from Oz.... 12.30am Gosh guys, there is so much i still have not ruled out, which you have all mentioned. Doesn't make narrowing down things any easier.... But I will say, I never went with the bottled water theory either, but isn't that how the sulpher drugs came about, through that thread... I have posted before that I feel my problem came after being bitten by ? in a caravan park, but the itching did not come till a few months later....
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Post by Hope on Jun 28, 2005 15:06:41 GMT -5
Dear Chemist G,
Thanks for your reply and I am very sorry to hear that you are suffering from this too. If you have only had this for five months then I suggest you kill it quick and be done with it as it spreads very fast.
I only found a name for this in March but have had it for many years and I was polluted! Thanks to everyone on this board and Mary, I think I have gotten rid of years worth of growth in only three months.
Are you familiar with Dr. Martin’s work? His research meshes with me exactly.
Hg’s theory on a fly of some sort does not. I HAVE NO “REAL” BUGS!!! This includes flies. I only have the fibers and guess what? My floaters are gone after five days of Septra. I’m a happy camper right now cuz this stuff is kicken butt!!!
The only other antibiotic I have tried was Biaxan and all it did was cause the tiny red/blood pin head spots to come out. The Malarone, used to treat my Babeseosis, caused the splinters to surface and made many small lesions. It also caused beauty marks and freckles to turn black and fall off. These freckles contained fibers when viewed under a microscope. But it still was good since I was expelling them. Five days of Septra and lesions are healing at record speed and no new ones are coming up. I also started running a temperature after only one dose of Septra so my body is fighting an infection of some kind.
I still feel like crap on the inside but I have high hopes for that to clear up as well.
Now to address your problem of biting and stinging. I bath in salt water, use a 10% sulpher based soap, and rub olive oil mixed with oil of oregano all over my body for a long, long time. Some people are having great results with castor oil rubs but I personally have had more success with the other I mentioned. I usually feel an itch and minutes to seconds later find a hair type fiber where that itch was. You will at first be clueless as to how that fiber got there but you will learn that not all of them protrude through a pore.
I believe that the black “hair” type fibers cause the most sensation in the skin. Some of them will shock you big time in how long they grow. I have targeted them topically and have little to no biting and/or stinging these days. Once you get those ones out and off, your skin feels very, very different. I have noticed a much cleaner feeling, much less movement, and also like my skin can finally breath.
Rub that oil and you may have to rub for an hour or longer but they come out and I believe this may help you too.
Taratula has helped me visualize this as kind of like a web. This web needs to be broken down and this is how I am doing it.
Do you have any way to analyze the fibers? Some say they are made up of cellulose. Can you confirm this? What would a hair analysis come out like on one of these things?
Peace, Hope
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Post by hg on Jun 28, 2005 21:36:00 GMT -5
I'm talking about carriers, tiny fly, sand fly, mites, fleas, of micro-organisms with DNA 22,000. Black is the color of lead.
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Post by Chemist G on Jun 29, 2005 13:48:37 GMT -5
Thanks for the info Hope! I will try Septra and that certainly makes sense given the amount of positive results with sulfur against this pest. I'll also try the oil of oregano trick. Do you have a link to Dr. Martin's work? Is he the one in Houston?
I do have access to an electron scanning microscope so, yes, we could do some serious analysis. I haven't had the fibers tho since I initially had symptoms and went into a sauna. White fibers came out of me in droves in the itchy areas - glad no one else was in the sauna because they would have absolutely FREAKED! I have seen white fibers on my clothes and some appeared to be moving but I'd rather get a sample from someone's skin for proper diagnosis. If you can get a sample let me know.
Be WELL!
Chemist G
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Post by debbie on Jun 29, 2005 18:28:59 GMT -5
Morning all I don't know which one is the best to read, so take your pick..... John Martin (Stealth Virus) www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&biw=569&q=john+martin+stealth+virus+&meta=BTW this was an australian google (but he was originally from Australia).... This will tie you up with reading until Hope can come back with hers.... Have a nice day..... wishing you all well.....
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Post by Orion*** on Jun 30, 2005 3:50:48 GMT -5
Google Search: john martin stealth virus meta B Address:http://www.google.com.au/search?q=john+martin+stealth+virus+meta+B&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&biw=&btnG=Search
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Post by Hope on Jun 30, 2005 10:57:35 GMT -5
Thanks for being on top of this guys. I tried hard last night to search this board for old posts and threads but couldn't find what I was looking for. With this new set up on this board I don't know if it is possible anymore. Any way, here is an impressive link Bugs posted a while back on ACE Pigments. www.s3support.com/Alternativecellularenergypigmentsmistakenforparasitic.pdfPeace, Hope
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Post by Administration on Jul 2, 2005 12:57:00 GMT -5
Most Lyme Drs will test for heavy metals..they have places for more sophisticated testing methods altho I have no idea how accurate the tests are as of yet. Many people with Lyme Disease have a high amount of heavy metals in their body, fillings or no fillings. Seems the higher the load, the more ALS symptoms they have. The Lyme Drs around here treat this with somethng called chaelation? Think I spelled this right. From what I hear from many others its just a pill they take for awhile that binds to the heavy metals and helps flush them away. I also know many Lyme Drs here on the East Coast are getting a flood of Morgellons patients who have had Lyme for some time and now have developed Morgellons as well. Very strange connection..
Kerry
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