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Post by 2hojo on Jan 14, 2006 4:16:47 GMT -5
Basically, It is definitely in my book a Military Biological Experiment that got away that is my opinion. These things can chew through anything. When I first realized, that i was infested i made a sulfur tub and watched one of them burrow into me like I was butter. I tried to chase it but it was to fast. It took me two months to kill it and I'm still dealing with offspring. Anyway I hope the Med Community is going to step up to the plate. But I doubted it with this administration. We have the airborne 101 that can get anywhere IN THE WORLD in 18 hrs. But it took them 7 days to get to New Orleans that is 168 hrs. that means it took them an extra 150 hrs. to get to New Orleans. But they got to Iraq in 20 hrs. ready to go for oil. Our poor boys. By the way they are still not getting help besides the rich, they are getting the aid. Did you notice that none of the papers printed how many dead actually occurred. I still don't know last I heard it was 6000. But I'm sure it is much higher. Anyway off on a tangent, the Administration is going to blow this one off and blame it on the next Administration, they are behind in the polls and know they are going to lose. But their excursuses is to blame it on new administration and when the poop hits the fan. They will just say see I told you so ,and 7/8 of the American population will believe it. They are still trying to blame Clinton for all their troubles that was 8 yrs. ago. If you can't fix house in 8 yrs. why are you in office? Every other President did it in 1. So we are in a political quagmire just a thought. but will with persevere, we shall prevail. Please keep the faith. Remember evil triumphs when good men do nothing
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Post by jeff on Jan 14, 2006 11:27:49 GMT -5
do you really beleive the "administration" controls the mind of every individual doctor in the country...10000 plus poeple all controlled by the government....come on..
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Post by Brian on Jan 14, 2006 19:27:22 GMT -5
IT IS A MEDICAL ISSUE AND AKING OFF OWARD HE 'ADMINISTRATION" IS ON THE WRONG PATH....PLEASE TRY TO THERIOZE ON SOMETHING THAT IS IN DIRECT CONECTION WITH WHAT THIS SITE IS.......NON POLTICAL...... IF YOUR UN HAPPY WITH BUSH......THEN TAKE IT OUT SOME WHERE ELSE PLEASE.....JUST THE FACTS OF WHAT YOU BELIEVE THEM TO BE
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Post by Brian on Jan 14, 2006 19:29:01 GMT -5
JEEEEEEEZE !
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Post by 2hojo on Jan 14, 2006 22:41:01 GMT -5
bks sorry, But unfortunately it is going to turn political and is political. I wish that wasn't true, but the hell, that the health dept. CDC. different hospitals and labs has put me and countless others through its like they were told what to do. I turned in perfect samples to my local lab that I had independently studied before hand, by a biologist that use to work for the L.A county heath dept. for 4 yrs. His job was identifying bugs and I had three perfect collembolla samples that came out of my leg.Plus countless hair balls that he could not identify. But he did ID the collembolla. Anyway the local lab said it was nothing but skin samples and fly larvae. This is like the main lab tech guy in my area with 30 yrs. experience. When I got the samples back the three prefect collembolla samples we're gone. Go figure. That report set back my treatment back by months and mucho $. Why would that lab tech. report no collembolla and did not give me back my samples unless in was political ? Another Opinion. but in the future I will try not to go political
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Post by specuelatin on Jan 14, 2006 23:16:56 GMT -5
Hello hojo,
It is sometimes hard to differentiate between politics and the condition when your beliefs are that this is all connected.
In hopes of trying to hold down the amount of stress that some patients are trying to avoid exposure to such, the Government/Economics/Politics forum was created for communicating those ideas. Access to that board is on the main welcome page for Lymebusters, and you can get to that main page by clicking "Lymebusters" (above left corner if you are unfamilar with the location).
If possible, this is where the theories concerning possible biowarfare agents, possible government involvement, etc. should really be placed.
For persons coming to the message board for support and information that may help them with their condition are thus, not further stressed each time they open a thread. For Lyme disease recovery it is important to consider stressors in one's life, and for each of us, that may be different.
spec
ps Admin, I hope I am not misstating, this is my understanding..
spec
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Post by ANTHILL on Jan 14, 2006 23:48:25 GMT -5
spec you did good I as a matter of fact I moved this thread to the Politics topic
I going to be a weenier I just know it I have faith ;D
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Post by 2hojo on Jan 15, 2006 0:28:59 GMT -5
I do apologize, I didn't know, i am a rookie on a PC it will not happen again. Thank you ant hill for moving it. thank you for your web site
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Post by DOCP on Jan 15, 2006 16:01:23 GMT -5
2hojo - Don't be sorry. Your post was not assaulting anyone... and happens to be a leading theory as to someone or some entity being behind the origin of this. Or at the veryy least they are aware of this and not being forthright with us. And it doesn't take a conspiracy theorist (be it a radical democrat or a GOP reactionary), to surmise that the behaviors of physicians, labs, and pathologists alike... are peculiar. Their apathetic attitude is suspect. Even to me it is and I happen to be the epitome of a white-bred conservative raised in in one of the reddest of red states on a cattle ranch, rodeo sponsoring, flag saluting, patriot. My mother a state wide politician (rencently retired), and consequently was offered a nominated by Bush Admin for the Secretary of Treasury (which she didn't get selected), my Grodfather a Governor (deceased). I used to work for Republican headquarters and for a Senator in DC as well. And eventhough I sometimes cry during the National Anthem... somewhere along the way I was taught to think for myself, have a bleeding heart for mankind which unfortunately only seems to known as falling under liberal platforms, and to cross party lines if the need should occur, or the candidate should warrant. There is corruption in probably all administrations to some degree as well as potentiation and promise. It's seems no party affiliation is immune, and I doubt we'd be sitting any prettier if a different Administration were in office.
While I agree with Spec and Ant and even balks27 in this thread with it's controversial subject matter being relocated to avoid rude comments that inevitable seem to ensue and become stress causing... I think those that whom immediately respond with a barking tone, actually heighten the stress they're wanting to avoid. And THAT can be stressful to all whom may feel they can't express their feeling or share a theory without being jumped on. Ideally, we wouldn't need rules and we could all respectfully agree or disagree or not engage in that particular discussion if we don't like it. I'm glad I read your post since I wonder the same thing from time to time.
Anyway, jeff brings up a good point (albeit emphasizing on an extreme version of your point). It seems unlikely that an "entire" administration has "mind control" over "10 thousand" doctors/officials. But can some facets of the admin such as the National health dept "influence" health dept at the state level? Or manipulate doctors at a grass roots level? Or at a pharmaceutical and/or insurance level? Certainly! They can dissuade them in many ways and for a number of reasons. Some bad, some good (or the greater good perhaps). They may trying to prevent mass hysteria by not acknowledging it till they get a hold on it. Or they simply have too much on their plates and aren't hearing us.
Conspiracies exist and have since way way back. Kings, King killers, Churches, Governments, etc. That's irrefuteable. And of course it makes us wonder and suspicious when we hear of FEMA's slow show, or why we're more apt to war oil rich countries, so it's not far-fetched to try applying it to our frustrating situation. We should always question authority. Noam Chomsky is one of my favorite authors when it comes to deciphering the Govt. (oh, and Thomas Paine), but he is so level headed and grounded. Speaks the truth without panic paranoia or sensationalism, even when the truth is grim.
Regardless of a man made or natural environ origion... it still has to have a vector or transfer mechanism, it still has to be identified to a certain degree and we still need to find the antidote, remedy, cure, etc. And we will not "do nothing" as you pointed out. Onward...
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Post by Brian on Jan 15, 2006 16:43:13 GMT -5
You were correct..it was not assulting me or anyone else.........But nor was the post vitale to information that I was looking for in that subject matter......just was on the wrong platform to list ones theries.Heck...its hard enough decifering the terminolgies and wording that some of those guys and gals use now.....without cutting thru othere retoric.....KOOL ?
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Post by TonyM on Jan 16, 2006 14:24:20 GMT -5
THIS will lighten things up for a bit:
Is it the NFL or is it the NBA?
36 have been accused of spousal abuse
7 have been arrested for fraud
19 have been accused of writing bad checks
117 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses
3 have done time for assault
71, repeat 71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit.
14 have been arrested on drug-related charges
8 have been arrested for shoplifting
21 currently are defendants in lawsuits. and
84 have been arrested for drunk driving
in the last year
Can you guess which organization this is?
Give up yet? . . Scroll down, citizen!
It's the 535 members of the United States Congress.
The same group of Idiots that crank out hundreds of new laws each year designed to keep the rest of us in line.
You gotta pass this one on!
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Post by 2hojo on Jan 20, 2006 2:53:16 GMT -5
To DOCP you are so right, all of my thoughts have be indendant. It is very difficult to substanciate what is trueth and properganda. I do want to thank you for your reply. My tea cup is always halve full. thank you HOJO
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