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Post by kammy on Apr 27, 2009 16:33:34 GMT -5
Using a Petri Dish to Monitor your Morgellons I've said a couple of times: ANYONE can monitor your Morgellons therapy progress if you have a lesion that's producing debris with a Petri Dish experiment. You don't even need a microscope, necessarily, you can just look at the growth difference in the dish. You can tell by the growths in the dish and/or what you see under the microscope, at given time intervals - to know if you're making progress with whatever 'therapy' you're doing. And, if you don't have a producing lesion - you can use skin scrapings from inside your mouth, sputum(sp?), urine... and probably a few other indicatiors. This method can also be used as an indicator to know if you're completely cured or not.
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Post by bannanny on Apr 27, 2009 16:38:06 GMT -5
I've read before that morgellons actually originated from Germany. Isn't tamtam from there as well? What does jeany think about that I wonder? Anyway, the white sparklies in the air (and which also comes off of us) are what I'm referring to as the white floaties. Sometimes tho, they're very difficult to see. What I was referring to as the white trails tho (like in the pic with the AN) are the trails we see under our skin, and the trails I see in the shadows of alot of my samples. So those are 2 different things completely. As for being "Type 1" I guess I am cuz this started in my hair and in the beginning I had seeds popping off of my head like clockwork. Same thing happened with my dogs... we could've set a watch by it's cycles at the time. I also have the "cob-web-like" strands. This is what mine look like under the scope, very much the same as the segmented tubes that the gels particles create, but much thinner and much longer... I think the gel creates the tubes and the strands, and will do it at any given time, especially when disturbed. Would you like me to send you some of the goo from my feet and hands kammy? Since I set the scope up and it doesn't work, I figure you can get the pics for me. Let me know... hugs ~~ bannanny
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Post by jeany on Apr 27, 2009 16:50:00 GMT -5
Bannanny,
WHAT!!?? Where did you hear that from?? I would be very interested to hear that theory.
Nope, don't think so. Jeany
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Post by kammy on Apr 27, 2009 17:51:39 GMT -5
Jeany - there you are! Go look at Banny's thread below and see what you think? She's got a nemtode trapping fungus that looks like the growth in my dish...
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Post by bannanny on Apr 27, 2009 18:24:56 GMT -5
If I remember right it was on a blog of tamtams... altho it was a good 3 years ago that I read it. I'm not the one saying it did or it didn't tho, it was just something I'd read.
Sure didn't mean to stir anything up!
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Post by grsue on Apr 27, 2009 18:30:41 GMT -5
What antiparasitic would work best? Which one did you use with success?
As for antibiotics,my derm skin tested my lesion,and Keflex ( one mentioned above) was prescribed and helped.Short term. I was on it , then off. Later on it for other reason-UTI -and off. But it helped.I think it is one part of attacking this( an antibiotic), and since I didn't do whatever was also required, it (Morg)remained.
Secondly, in regard to antibiotics, Cipro was mentioned by a member who said she had some sort of inside information on what this is. (MissKitty or something similar). Doxycycline was also discussed years ago, in regards to returning vets who had post war problems,and it was said to be denied to them. Someone here said it would be effective on this.
MsKitty( or such) said Cipro and something else was needed to kick this, then she vanished from the board within short time of talking to her sources. This was 2-3 years ago perhaps, or less. I never knew what to make of that.
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Post by grsue on Apr 27, 2009 18:34:28 GMT -5
Miss Kitty also said we would have to wash EVERYTHING with vinegar-walls, ceilings, clothing, everything would be washed down with vinegar after we did the Cipro and______ (whatever I have forgotten).Maybe she PM'd me that part.
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Post by kammy on Apr 27, 2009 18:43:17 GMT -5
I've read before that morgellons actually originated from Germany. Isn't tamtam from there as well? What does jeany think about that I wonder? Anyway, the white sparklies in the air (and which also comes off of us) are what I'm referring to as the white floaties. Sometimes tho, they're very difficult to see. What I was referring to as the white trails tho (like in the pic with the AN) are the trails we see under our skin, and the trails I see in the shadows of alot of my samples. So those are 2 different things completely. As for being "Type 1" I guess I am cuz this started in my hair and in the beginning I had seeds popping off of my head like clockwork. Same thing happened with my dogs... we could've set a watch by it's cycles at the time. I also have the "cob-web-like" strands. This is what mine look like under the scope, very much the same as the segmented tubes that the gels particles create, but much thinner and much longer... I think the gel creates the tubes and the strands, and will do it at any given time, especially when disturbed. Would you like me to send you some of the goo from my feet and hands kammy? Since I set the scope up and it doesn't work, I figure you can get the pics for me. Let me know... hugs ~~ bannanny Well... that shoots the heck out of that part of the theory, then. I still think there's differences in our symptoms based on if you caught your "M" from someone or are an 'original carrier' with present visible signs. I've been asking for a questionnaire poll for some time to get a better understanding of why our symptoms are different based on where it started on our bodies, etc. Ok, so the "Type 1's" CAN make 'angel hair' cobwebs? However, I have 4 biofilms... not just a 'clear' one... possibly, another angle could be what pathogens in common create certain symptoms?
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Post by kammy on Apr 27, 2009 20:16:45 GMT -5
Kammy's Specks These 'specks' were removed from my ear and placed directly on a brand new, still packaged, closed box of slides @100x. There are various sizes, shapes, and material make-up of these 'specks'. The crystal ones, especially appear 'freeze dried', all the specks appear to be in a 'freeze dried' state of sorts - there's not too many fibers, mostly debris. These are what I have been flicking into Petri Dishes to make the videos you've seen so far. [/img] my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/Kammys Specks/100x 4 27 09/04_27_1.JPEG[/img] my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/Kammys Specks/100x 4 27 09/04_27_2.JPEG[/img] my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/Kammys Specks/100x 4 27 09/04_27_3.JPEG[/img][/center]
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Post by kammy on Apr 27, 2009 20:29:26 GMT -5
Kammy's Specks #2 These 'specks' were removed from my ear and placed directly on a brand new, still packaged, closed box of slides @100x. There are various sizes, shapes, and material make-up of these 'specks'. The crystal ones, especially appear 'freeze dried', all the specks appear to be in a 'freeze dried' state of sorts - there's not too many fibers, mostly debris. These are what I have been flicking into Petri Dishes to make the videos you've seen so far. [/img] my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/Kammys Specks/100x 4 27 09/04_27_5.JPEG[/img] my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/Kammys Specks/100x 4 27 09/04_27_6.JPEG[/img] my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/Kammys Specks/100x 4 27 09/04_27_7.JPEG[/img][/center]
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Post by kammy on Apr 27, 2009 20:29:52 GMT -5
Kammy's Specks #3 These 'specks' were removed from my ear and placed directly on a brand new, still packaged, closed box of slides @100x. There are various sizes, shapes, and material make-up of these 'specks'. The crystal ones, especially appear 'freeze dried', all the specks appear to be in a 'freeze dried' state of sorts - there's not too many fibers, mostly debris. These are what I have been flicking into Petri Dishes to make the videos you've seen so far. [/img] my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/Kammys Specks/100x 4 27 09/04_27_10.JPEG[/img] my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/Kammys Specks/100x 4 27 09/04_27_11.JPEG[/img] my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/Kammys Specks/100x 4 27 09/04_27_12.JPEG[/img][/center]
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Post by kammy on Apr 27, 2009 20:31:35 GMT -5
Kammy's Specks #4 These 'specks' were removed from my ear and placed directly on a brand new, still packaged, closed box of slides @100x. There are various sizes, shapes, and material make-up of these 'specks'. The crystal ones, especially appear 'freeze dried', all the specks appear to be in a 'freeze dried' state of sorts - there's not too many fibers, mostly debris. These are what I have been flicking into Petri Dishes to make the videos you've seen so far. [/img] my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/Kammys Specks/100x 4 27 09/04_27_14.JPEG[/img] my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/Kammys Specks/100x 4 27 09/04_27_15.JPEG[/img] my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/Kammys Specks/100x 4 27 09/04_27_17.JPEG[/img][/center]
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Post by kammy on Apr 27, 2009 20:49:53 GMT -5
Kammy's Specks #5 @ 600x These 'specks' were removed from my ear and placed directly on a brand new, still packaged, closed box of slides @600x. At 600x you can see more of the 'mercury-like balls' that was seen in Barka's video, that are not easily discerned at 100x. The crystal ones, especially appear 'freeze dried', all the specks appear to be in a 'freeze dried' state of sorts - there's not too many fibers, mostly debris. These are what I have been flicking into Petri Dishes to make the videos you've seen so far. [/img] my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/Kammys Specks/600x 4 27 09/04_27_22.JPEG[/img] my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/Kammys Specks/600x 4 27 09/04_27_23.JPEG[/img] my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/Kammys Specks/600x 4 27 09/04_27_24.JPEG[/img][/center]
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Post by kammy on Apr 27, 2009 20:51:02 GMT -5
Kammy's Specks #6 @ 600x These 'specks' were removed from my ear and placed directly on a brand new, still packaged, closed box of slides @600x. At 600x you can see more of the 'mercury-like balls' that was seen in Barka's video, that are not easily discerned at 100x. The crystal ones, especially appear 'freeze dried', all the specks appear to be in a 'freeze dried' state of sorts - there's not too many fibers, mostly debris. These are what I have been flicking into Petri Dishes to make the videos you've seen so far. [/img] my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/Kammys Specks/600x 4 27 09/04_27_30.JPEG[/img] my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/Kammys Specks/600x 4 27 09/04_27_31.JPEG[/img] my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/Kammys Specks/600x 4 27 09/04_27_32.JPEG[/img][/center]
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Post by kammy on Apr 27, 2009 20:51:51 GMT -5
Kammy's Specks #7 @ 600x These 'specks' were removed from my ear and placed directly on a brand new, still packaged, closed box of slides @600x. At 600x you can see more of the 'mercury-like balls' that was seen in Barka's video, that are not easily discerned at 100x. The crystal ones, especially appear 'freeze dried', all the specks appear to be in a 'freeze dried' state of sorts - there's not too many fibers, mostly debris. These are what I have been flicking into Petri Dishes to make the videos you've seen so far. [/img] my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/Kammys Specks/600x 4 27 09/04_27_33.JPEG[/img] my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/Kammys Specks/600x 4 27 09/04_27_34.JPEG[/img] my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/Kammys Specks/600x 4 27 09/04_27_35.JPEG[/img][/center]
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Post by jeany on Apr 28, 2009 5:36:48 GMT -5
There are several types of Aspergillus and AO...almost 200. That's why we need the reverse side to indentify. Here's a microscopical pic of A type oligospora: For growth and exploitation of their substrate fungi use a system of fine cylindrical threads. The individual thread is called a hypha (plural: hyphae). Threads are so fine that individually they are invisible to the naked eye. Collectively they can be seen as a fuzzy growth. A collection of threads that is visible to the unaided eye is called a mycelium. The system of threads used by fungi is one of nature's most successful biological designs and is the vegetative basis for about a million species. Hyphae grow, branch and fan out through or over the substrate. To maintain continuity and communication between individual threads the fungus produces a hyphal bridge that links adjacent hyphae. The bridge is open at both ends to permit protoplasmic flow. Multiple anastomoses between individual hyphal threads form a three dimensional network. This network is essentially a power grid. Protoplasmic flow within the hyphae maintains continuity and contact with the entire system . The hyphal network achieved by anastomoses can be very extensive and not only explores new areas but is the source of nutrients for developing fruitbodies that may be several feet around as in the giant puffball (Calvatia gigantea). www.virtualmuseum.ca/Exhibitions/Mushroom/English/Species/arthrobotrysoligospora.html
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Post by kammy on Apr 28, 2009 8:30:05 GMT -5
Morgellons Is a Desiccated Disease? So, it appears that Morgellons leaves the body in a desiccated or dried up form and probably some portion or a large part of it entered the body in a desiccated form?
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Post by kammy on Apr 28, 2009 8:35:06 GMT -5
Except Banny's (and others) 'goo' leaves her body in a liquid/gel form? hmmm? a very interesting contrast?
Banny, I have theory about you. Have you received a lot of medicines during your illness - had a responsive doctor who's tried several different drugs?
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Post by kammy on Apr 28, 2009 11:04:08 GMT -5
Morgellons is activated by moisture Here's what I noticed one time recently. I was going through a period of the black specks/spores coming out at higher rate than normal. I took a bath and didn't pick the towel up off the bathroom floor after bathing that I had used to dry off on, like I normally do. I went back in - in a day or two and looked at the towel and noticed some good sized black specks that had started to grow in the moisture of the towel. None that size were coming out of my body the previous day or two. I've suspected that these desiccated (dried up) particles coming off my body are 'activated' by moisture. That they are contagious to others either by them getting into someone's eyes, nose, mouth, lungs, blood stream, etc. We can note that the group in Texas where the first Texas outbreak was reported in large numbers was in a flood area. And the two sea coastal areas - Florida and California, water, moisture. Florida is known for it's dampness and mold that's growing in a lot of homes? I don't know about coastal California, if it's known for this, also? I can't say that bathing would aggrave this, I guess it would depend on what type of skin problems you're having? I started taking less and less baths and more showers, just naturally - that's what my body was telling me to do... I don't have many/any skin lesions since I started bathing less. I had a couple of tiny lesions on my hands that came up the other day, but they are gone or leaving, which usually, it takes me 3 months to get rid of one. Everything has been in a drying up stage with me, for a long time - to the point of producing a powder from my skin. Note: I naturally do not crave water like I used to, I don't drink as much water as I should be. I think water consumption and growth might correlate somehow? Not to promote not drinking fluids, we just don't know enough yet, I'm just stating my body preferences, I listen to what it says it wants or needs and go with that instinctively. I took a rusty iron skillet bath recently and someone mentioned to me yesterday - again - that urine on the skin was good for a fungal infection. So, I started a urine on skin experiment today. I figured - why not? Oh, I saw in some of your literature that you posted, Jeany, that we inhale 40 spores an hour on average??? That the normal healthy person - these do not affect adversly. That the 'specks/debris' in my carpet is not coming to life because it takes moisture to give it life - like the moisture in the Petri Dish. Those things seen in my videos are not in my carpet in that form. They are in the form of the above noted 'Kammy's Specks' photos. I also don't have any 'feet' issues - that if you take a bath and then walk about your house barefooted and then trap something on your floor in-between your skin and socks - you might end up with feet 'issues'. I dry my feet in the bathroom and then brush them off to make sure nothing is 'clinging'... and put on socks there, before I walk about my house. If I forget, I search out socks first thing and am sure to brush my feet off first before I put the socks on. I even sleep in 'footy' socks now, where I never used to. To look at me, you can't tell I have Morgellons, except for an ear - that doesn't look quite right, if you paid close attention to it. Such a masquerader! I could easily infect an army - but there's very little visible signs that there's anything wrong with me.
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Post by kammy on Apr 28, 2009 12:25:06 GMT -5
{QUOTE by Jeany}Good conclusions Kammy!
Morgellons Disease is caused by a waterbourne pathogen I believe. And what you have seen with those black specks actually proves this is a fungus of some kind.
Spores being activated by water exposure. I don't think taking baths as some here recommend is a good idea as I believe this fungus will be spread all over the body. Even dunking ears into bathing water is worse IMO leading the infection into ears too. Taking showers is IMO the better choice and I think you can see how your lesions are healing now?
Marc Neumann mentions on his site that Morgellons seem to have an affinity to water..hmmm, why? because it itself is a waterbourne pathogen. He suggests to not bath or take showers too frequently.
High humidity could be the reason why outbreaks occured in those states. California has high humidity...at least around ocean area.
And yes, due to preexistent fungal infections in our bodies...mold, mildew.. this Morgs fungus can easily connect and cause a multiple fungus infection.
Jeany
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