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Post by godsgrace on Aug 22, 2008 22:50:43 GMT -5
Chemtrails......performed by Beck.
Here, the lyrics.
I can’t believe what we’ve seen outside You and me watching the jets go by Oh, oooh, oh Oh, oooh, oh
Down by the sea so many people’ve Already drowned You and me watching the sea full of people Try not to drown
So many people, so many people Where do they go? You and me watching the sky full of chemtrails That’s where we can float
All I can take from these skies is fog And all I can see in this light are boats sinking Oh, oooh, oh Oh, oooh, oh
Down by the sea Swallowed by evil they’ve already drowned You and me watching the sea full of people Who’ve already drowned
So many people, so many people Where do they go? You and me hit by a test of white evil rain Watching the jet planes go by
You and me watching You and me watching Chemtrails form swelling behind That’s what I mean when we got in the slipstream We’re climbing a hole in the sky
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Post by godsgrace on Aug 22, 2008 22:53:34 GMT -5
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Post by jj on Aug 23, 2008 7:29:47 GMT -5
Most all links are full of speculation with no concrete scientific process indicating verifiable facts. People have been suffering with the symptoms of morgellons long before the concept of this type of nanotechnology described even became evident. There are registrants worldwide. The general hypotheses of these claims would indicate world wide public manipulation with no element of target control which makes no sense whatsoever. Just because a condition appears novel, misunderstood and yet to be concretely defined by the medical and scientific community no way indicates Morgellons as labled should therefore be clumped in with the lists of corrupt acts some of you feel it should be categorized. I believe this speculative approach is totally back-words, inhibitive, destructive and closes most the doors many have busted their buts trying to open. JJ
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Post by godsgrace on Aug 23, 2008 7:45:10 GMT -5
JJ, I am posting what I believe to be relevant to Morgellon's.
I'm sorry if you think Clifford Carnicom and countless other researchers, scientists, doctors ect.... are wrong about the whole thing. There is alot of scientific evidence connecting Morgellon's to chemtrails.
I am not the only person to post information on this however it seems I am the only person being ridiculed for it.
I am sorry if you do not like or agree with my info but why am I constantly being threatened by you here in this forum?
Moving my threads, threatening a free vacation, being told to keep it cordial when I attempt to defend myself against others?
I believe this speculative approach is totally back-words, inhibitive, destructive and closes most the doors many have busted their buts trying to open.
JJ
I'm sorry but I believe you are wrong.
Sincerely, godsgrace
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Post by jj on Aug 23, 2008 10:03:19 GMT -5
JJ, I am posting what I believe to be relevant to Morgellon's. I'm sorry if you think Clifford Carnicom and countless other researchers, scientists, doctors ect.... are wrong about the whole thing. There is alot of scientific evidence connecting Morgellon's to chemtrails. I am not the only person to post information on this however it seems I am the only person being ridiculed for it. I am sorry if you do not like or agree with my info but why am I constantly being threatened by you here in this forum? Moving my threads, threatening a free vacation, being told to keep it cordial when I attempt to defend myself against others? I believe this speculative approach is totally back-words, inhibitive, destructive and closes most the doors many have busted their buts trying to open.
JJI'm sorry but I believe you are wrong. Sincerely, godsgrace We all have our opinions and theories which is our right. Agreeing to disagree respectfully is a goal we try to achieve here. "JJ, I am posting what I believe to be relevant to Morgellon's". Thank you, passionate opinion is admirable and appreciated. On the other hand, most everyone here frowns on opinions when projected with repeated force and disrespect for others. People should be able to share their opinions without calling others who don't agree "ignorant" because of lack of support behind said opinions. "I'm sorry if you think Clifford Carnicom and countless other researchers, scientists, doctors ect.... are wrong about the whole thing. There is alot of scientific evidence connecting Morgellon's to chemtrails." I don't believe I indicated I felt the info shared was "wrong" but it lacked what it needs to be considered valid, credible evidence based on the scientific process, thus still speculative. I'm sorry you are 'feeling' personally threatened. Many threads are being moved in an effort to organize the board for EVERYONES benefit. Yet a few individuals (not just yourself) find the organization process personally threatening? Many threads need to be addressed when things start to get a little hairy or disrespectful. My apologies if quoting your statements personally offends you. Many are quoted here everyday in most all threads for many reasons and usually the process is not offensive. When someone insinuates a fellow sufferer is a paid dis-formant I will address it no matter who makes the comment and a 'warning' will be given. Those kind of comments are uncalled for and result in disruption of the board. I think everyone here would be surprised how the majority of posting boards and forums address issues. We here at LB are quite lenient in comparison. Please try to 'stand back' and consider administrative board handling as well as the overall purpose of LB from a more general perspective where all users are concerned and not so personally. We are here for ALL sufferers as well as the scientific and medical community advocating Morgellons, not just specific individuals. Sincerely JJ
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Post by stevefrey on Aug 23, 2008 22:06:25 GMT -5
JJ I applaud your professionalism in this matter, you couldn't be more diplomatic, well done.
Steve
I've decided not to waste any more of my time with this chemtrail poopoo, much more important stuff to deal with so happy "trails" to all the believers and good luck in your ventures.
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Post by godsgrace on Aug 24, 2008 8:53:36 GMT -5
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Post by godsgrace on Aug 24, 2008 9:19:26 GMT -5
If a picture it worth 1,000 words, these are worth...oh, let's say 6 Billion words. Hats off to David D. www.rense.com/1.mpicons/dees1.htmpolitical chemtrails Morgellon's Monsanto Big Pharma Illuminati war he's covered all of the bases. praying godsgrace
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Post by jj on Aug 24, 2008 15:08:44 GMT -5
FYI (everyone), been doing some cleaning up which is still a work in progress.
A request please. Keep the speculative theories in the appropriate category (which we happen to be in). If posts are removed from any forum here it is because they are inappropriate and/or don't belong in a particular board. Over the past month or more there has been an over abundance of posts pushing a fine 'off topic' line all over LB. SPAMMING comes into play here when the board is monopolized to this degree. Doing so is inconsiderate to others. Please take this into consideration before posting.
Thank you JJ
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Post by greeneyes on Aug 24, 2008 17:51:00 GMT -5
What I have personally witnessed that was not there many years ago--tells me something has changed.
Of course I also had a discussion with a woman who worked in the airline industry and was in trouble for discussing the tanks that had been placed "without" knowledge of anyone--underneath the planes. The woman was involved in court action and was being harassed for speaking up.
I know this woman personally--
Beings this category is named Theories and Speculations does that not mean that everyone's is welcome?
It almost appears as though folks were sent here to be attacked systematically.
It is hard to play by the rules when they seem to keep changing.
Maybe we are all living in different dimensions and you're both right.
One last thing 'plausible deniability' --the government loves it--they have been using it a long long time--ask some service men-- if you don't believe me.
greeneyes
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Post by greeneyes on Aug 24, 2008 17:55:52 GMT -5
US boasts of laser weapon's 'plausible deniability' By David Hambling NewScientist.com news service 12 August 2008 An airborne laser weapon dubbed the "long-range blowtorch" has the added benefit that the US could convincingly deny any involvement with the destruction it causes, say senior officials of the US Air Force (USAF). The Advanced Tactical Laser (ATL) is to be mounted on a Hercules military transport plane. Boeing announced the first test firing of the laser, from a plane on the ground, earlier this summer. Cynthia Kaiser, chief engineer of the US Air Force Research Laboratory's Directed Energy Directorate, used the phrase "plausible deniability" to describe the weapon's benefits in a briefing (powerpoint format) on laser weapons to the New Mexico Optics Industry Association in June. Plausibly deniable John Corley, director of USAF's Capabilities Integration Directorate, used the same phrase to describe the weapon's benefits at an Air Armament Symposium in Florida in October 2007 (see page 15, pdf format). As the term suggests, "plausible deniability" is used to describe situations where those responsible for an event could plausibly claim to have had no involvement in it. Corley and Kaiser did not respond to requests from New Scientist to expand on their comments. But John Pike, analyst with defence think-tank Global Security, based in Virginia, says the implications are clear. "The target would never know what hit them," says Pike. "Further, there would be no munition fragments that could be used to identify the source of the strike." Silent strike A laser beam is silent and invisible. An ATL can deliver the heat of a blowtorch with a range of 20 kilometres, depending on conditions. That range is great enough that the aircraft carrying it might not be seen, especially at night. With no previous examples for comparison, it may be difficult to discern whether damage to a vehicle or person was the result of a laser strike. The 5.5-tonne ATL combines chlorine and hydrogen peroxide molecules to release energy, which is used in turn to stimulate iodine into releasing intense infra-red light. The US uses Hercules aircraft for accurate cannon strikes on moving vehicles. The ATL is touted as bringing a new level of accuracy to such attacks, for example being able to pinpoint a vehicle's tyres to disable it safely. A second, larger version of the laser is also nearing initial testing. The much larger Airborne Laser is intended for missile defence and will be carried by a Boeing 747. Related Articles Treaty piles on pressure to make cluster bombs smarter technology.newscientist.com/article/mg19826595.70008 June 2008 Editorial: What was the point of Star Wars? technology.newscientist.com/article/mg19726482.60022 March 2008 US Army toyed with telepathic ray gun technology.newscientist.com/article/dn1351321 March 2008 Weblinks ATL official fact sheet, USAF (PDF format) www.kirtland.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-070404-027.pdfJohn Corley's presentation - see page 15 (PDF format) www.ndiagulfcoast.com/events/archive/33rd_symposium/day2/05_XR%20NDIA%2010-11%20Oct%20%20Final.pdfCynthia Kaiser's briefing (PowerPoint format) www.nmoia.org/images/NMOPTICS_Briefing_a.ppt*** Posted by Michael Hoffman at 8/13/2008 05:18:00 AM Labels: Advanced Tactical Laser, Big Brother, Directed Energy Directorate, John Corley, US Air Force
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Post by stevefrey on Aug 24, 2008 20:19:24 GMT -5
ANTIESTABLISHMENTARIANISM PROPAGANDA
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Post by godsgrace on Aug 25, 2008 7:13:10 GMT -5
greeneyes, thank you so much for your informative info.
People's lives are being threatened everyday in realtion to this atrocity.
My heart breaks for the woman who is going through this.
sincerely
godsgrace
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Post by jj on Aug 25, 2008 9:31:40 GMT -5
Beings this category is named Theories and Speculations does that not mean that everyone's is welcome? It almost appears as though folks were sent here to be attacked systematically. It is hard to play by the rules when they seem to keep changing. greeneyes Don't believe I indicated "everyone" was not welcome. Morgellons Scientific - Theories & Speculation was created for everyone to share their theories and it is pretty much a given that some will disagree one way or another. If done so respectfully the exchange of theories and opinions can be quite productive and useful. However, when some opt to post with such a repetitive urgency it changes from productive sharing to unproductive and intrusive. We are a diverse group here and would like to have some BALANCE and the option to move on to areas of support applicable to our needs. Administration is very aware of this diversity and trying very hard to provide support for all. Those options to all are becoming limited because most areas of LB are being monopolized. This is NOT a game to us and KOOLAID is NOT on the menu here. Again, Please try to 'stand back' and consider administrative board handling as well as the overall purpose of LB from a more general perspective where all users are concerned and not so personally. We are here for ALL sufferers as well as the scientific and medical community advocating Morgellons, not just specific individuals. JJ
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Post by greeneyes on Aug 29, 2008 16:04:08 GMT -5
Logic makes you ask the question--if chemtrails don't exist--than why all the visits from the government agencies? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- www.carnicom.com/visitors.htmFeel free to read the list by visiting the above address.
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Post by Jill on Aug 29, 2008 19:13:58 GMT -5
# 63 on Cliff's list- Greeneyes:
63. Enterprise Products Partners L.P.(MTBE production)
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Post by 2.99(plus~tax) on Aug 29, 2008 20:10:24 GMT -5
# 63 on Cliff's list- Greeneyes: 63. Enterprise Products Partners L.P.(MTBE production) hey what's that?
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Post by godsgrace on Aug 29, 2008 23:37:19 GMT -5
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Post by godsgrace on Aug 29, 2008 23:41:15 GMT -5
greeneyes.. what a great link showing all of the visits to Cliff's site.
I'm sure by now he is considered "a person of interest"
he is one of my heros!!
chat soon gracie
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Post by greeneyes on Aug 30, 2008 15:40:11 GMT -5
All the government visits are very notable but I also find that #59, Kaiser Permanente health organization to be very interesting as well considering they are involved in what will be the final say on what is occuring with those of us in the Morgellons community---What do You Think? greeneyes Here is the link again in case you missed it: www.carnicom.com/visitors.htm
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