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Post by godsgrace on Aug 18, 2008 9:09:46 GMT -5
get real
The allegation of "chemtrails" has been refuted by the USAFyes Steve, just like the fact that Lyme disease was refuted by CDC/NIH for years!!
Just like Morgellon's was refuted by docs, the CDC and NIH for years!
Just because government officials "refute" info, doesn't make it "not so"
- The allegations of "chemtrails" were found to be "unsubstantiated conjecture" by the Congressional Research Service's Report to Congress on Contrails 6/1/99.
you are relying on the government to tell the truth?
that my friend, would be your first mistake.
gg
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Post by godsgrace on Aug 18, 2008 9:19:24 GMT -5
What’s the difference between a jet contrail and a chemtrail?
According to the U.S. Air Force, jet contrails form above 33,000 feet when hot engine exhaust momentarily condenses ice crystals into pencil-thin vapor trails that quickly vanish like the wake behind a boat.
Chemtrails (CTs) look like contrails initially, but are much thicker, extend across the sky, and are often laid down in varying patterns of Xs, tic-tac-toe grids, crosshatched and parallel lines. Instead of quickly dissipating, chemtrails expand and drip feathers and mare’s tails. in 30 minutes or less, they open into wispy formations, which join together, forming a thin white veil or a "fake cirrus-type cloud" that persists for hours.
Thousands of eyewitnesses -- including pilots, police officers and military personnel -- report seeing up to eight or more tankers laying chemtrails in X patterns, parallel rows, tic-tac-toe or crosshatched lines.
Since spraying intensified in 1998, the Centers for Disease Control recorded 59 weeks of epidemic fatalities from pneumonia and influenza-like illness (ILI). The CDC now says many of these deaths could be caused by some "unknown pathogen."
In August 2000, chemtrail watchers began to report "more normal" appearing or nearly invisible jet sprays. However, these reports go on to include cloud formations dripping the feathers and mares’ tails just as the chemtrails do. It’s our belief that the operation has adjusted the chemtrail mix as word about the phenomenon is spreading and as more and more people are looking up. Observant chemtrail watchers continue to see the "fake cirrus-type clouds" on top of and surrounding real cumulus clouds.
Citizen requests for information are often ignored by national, state and local governments. Infrequent official explanations attribute this phenomenon to increased jet traffic. This does not explain why communities far from designated air routes are seeing numerous jets breaking civil air regulations, weaving outlandish aerial patterns that last all day.
Who is doing the spraying?
Witnesses have documented and photographed military KC-135s and KC-10s and white, unmarked jets. Airport personnel and pilots have also confirmed specific commercial airliners to be leaving the long-lasting chemtrails.
What’s in the chemtrails, and why are they spraying us?
That’s the $6 million question! There may be several programs working at the same time. Possibilities include atmospheric and weather modification and biowarfare. Many theorize that it’s part of a clandestine operation to implement the New World Order by eliminating society’s "useless eaters" and the infirm and/or to reduce the population to a support level for the "elite." Originally, it was thought to be mass inoculation for possible biowarfare attack; however, this theory has been ruled out with the increase of sicknesses and illnesses in the CT paths.
In a taped interview with freelance radio reporter S.T. Brendt, an Air Traffic Control manager said he was told on as many as four occasions in March 2001 to re-route commercial air traffic around military aircraft taking part in an undisclosed aerial operation over the Northeastern Seaboard. Speaking on condition of strict anonymity as intense chemtrail activity continued overhead, the federal aviation source expressed concern over the classified nature of military operations repeatedly conducted at altitudes between 37,000 and 40,000 feet.
The ATC manager said he was ordered to divert incoming European air traffic away from the military planes. When asked why, he said, "I was told there was a miliary exercise in the area. Of course, they wouldn’t give me any of the particulars." The initial FAA disclosure came on March 12, as mass aerial maneuvers saturated Northeastern U.S. skies with Xs, circular patterns and parallel lines characteristic of chemtrail activity reported by pilots, police officers and former military personnel across the United States.
Could (inventor of the hydrogen bomb) Edward Teller’s proposal to reduce global warming to the U.S. be involved? Teller’s proposal involves spraying minute aluminum particles to deflect the sun’s harmful ultraviolet rays, but still allow the Earth’s heat to rise through them. This seems to be supported by rainwater tests after heavy spraying in Espanola, Canada, which contained seven times the allowable limit of aluminum. In this instance, the areas with the least ultraviolet protection, as the Southwest, would be the heaviest sprayed. Most often, this does not seem to be the case.
gg
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Post by godsgrace on Aug 18, 2008 9:21:10 GMT -5
www.proliberty.com/observer/20060704.htmHow do you explain my brown grease incidence and this one? please explain. Regardless, some members of this family are very sick. On May 23, after a hard rain the day before, they a noticed glittering substance and a pinkish-colored powder substance on the roof of their house. They then noticed the glittering substance on many surfaces, even the dashboard of the family car. Both substances were collected and sent to a lab for analysis. Among the substances found to be in the samples were several that should simply not be there: 6 bacteria, including anthrax and pneumonia 9 chemicals including acetylcholine chloride 26 heavy metals including arsenic, gold, lead,mercury, silver, uranium and zinc 4 molds and fungi 7 viruses 2 cancers 2 vaccines 2 sedatives Oh, I know...the lab is lying, right? gracie
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Post by godsgrace on Aug 18, 2008 12:12:56 GMT -5
OK, then please tell me how tons of brown grease got onto my roof, car, garage, road ect? IT FELL FROM A PLANE It is the only logical explanation. If you have a better one, please let me know. gg
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Post by godsgrace on Aug 18, 2008 13:28:39 GMT -5
why can't you think outside the sponge box?
gg
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Post by godsgrace on Aug 19, 2008 4:26:50 GMT -5
we are dealing with a parasite that has plagued much of the life on this planet for centuries,
and what you are proposing is that we are just now, in the past 20 years seeing the effects???
why didn't people get ill from this hundreds/millions of years ago?
chew on this....perhaps they manipulated sponges or used them in the creation of something else?
mycoplasma used to be very innocuous until they began manipulating it....probably the same case as the sponge. off to work...have a great day
godsgrace
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Post by 2.99(plus~tax) on Aug 21, 2008 22:28:41 GMT -5
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Post by godsgrace on Aug 21, 2008 22:42:43 GMT -5
pnut, thank you for agreeing with my info. ;D People need to be educated to what is happening right under our noses. We all have Morg's...most have Lyme which everyone knows is a biological warfare weapon, most if not all of us have mycoplasma infections, again, bilogical weapons,, yet some people refuse to believe in the existence of chemtrails...even when they are able to see them with their own eyes...merely scoffing it off as contrails. Either these folks have a lot to learn or they are being paid to throw us off course/confuse us and aytempt to debunk us. your link was great...hadn't seen that one yet....there are so many. speaks volumes.....you said a mouthful! godsgrace
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Post by 2.99(plus~tax) on Aug 21, 2008 22:46:33 GMT -5
you tell me that there are no such things as chemtrails steve....that's just bullshyt with a capital B steve. Look at the list below and tell me honestly you think they "wouldn't dream of spraying anything harmful in our enviornment". please I'm begging you. 1931 Dr. Cornelius Rhoads, under the auspices of the Rockefeller Institute for Medical Investigations, infects human subjects with cancer cells. He later goes on to establish the U.S. Army Biological Warfare facilities in Maryland, Utah, and Panama, and is named to the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission. While there, he begins a series of radiation exposure experiments on American soldiers and civilian hospital patients.
1932 The Tuskegee Syphilis Study begins. 200 black men diagnosed with syphilis are never told of their illness, are denied treatment, and instead are used as human guinea pigs in order to follow the progression and symptoms of the disease. They all subsequently die from syphilis, their families never told that they could have been treated.
1935 The Pellagra Incident. After millions of individuals die from Pellagra over a span of two decades, the U.S. Public Health Service finally acts to stem the disease. The director of the agency admits it had known for at least 20 years that Pellagra is caused by a niacin deficiency but failed to act since most of the deaths occured within poverty-striken black populations.
1940 Four hundred prisoners in Chicago are infected with Malaria in order to study the effects of new and experimental drugs to combat the disease. Nazi doctors later on trial at Nuremberg cite this American study to defend their own actions during the Holocaust.
1942 Chemical Warfare Services begins mustard gas experiments on approximately 4,000 servicemen. The experiments continue until 1945 and made use of Seventh Day Adventists who chose to become human guinea pigs rather than serve on active duty.
1943 In response to Japan's full-scale germ warfare program, the U.S. begins research on biological weapons at Fort Detrick, MD.
1944 U.S. Navy uses human subjects to test gas masks and clothing. Individuals were locked in a gas chamber and exposed to mustard gas and lewisite.
1945 Project Paperclip is initiated. The U.S. State Department, Army intelligence, and the CIA recruit Nazi scientists and offer them immunity and secret identities in exchange for work on top secret government projects in the United States.
1945 "Program F" is implemented by the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission (AEC). This is the most extensive U.S. study of the health effects of fluoride, which was the key chemical component in atomic bomb production. One of the most toxic chemicals known to man, fluoride, it is found, causes marked adverse effects to the central nervous system but much of the information is squelched in the name of national security because of fear that lawsuits would undermine full-scale production of atomic bombs.
1946 Patients in VA hospitals are used as guinea pigs for medical experiments. In order to allay suspicions, the order is given to change the word "experiments" to "investigations" or "observations" whenever reporting a medical study performed in one of the nation's veteran's hospitals.
1947 Colonel E.E. Kirkpatrick of the U.S. Atomic Energy Comission issues a secret document (Document 07075001, January 8, 1947) stating that the agency will begin administering intravenous doses of radioactive substances to human subjects.
1947 The CIA begins its study of LSD as a potential weapon for use by American intelligence. Human subjects (both civilian and military) are used with and without their knowledge.
1950 Department of Defense begins plans to detonate nuclear weapons in desert areas and monitor downwind residents for medical problems and mortality rates.
1950 I n an experiment to determine how susceptible an American city would be to biological attack, the U.S. Navy sprays a cloud of bacteria from ships over San Franciso. Monitoring devices are situated throughout the city in order to test the extent of infection. Many residents become ill with pneumonia-like symptoms.
1951 Department of Defense begins open air tests using disease-producing bacteria and viruses. Tests last through 1969 and there is concern that people in the surrounding areas have been exposed.
1953 U.S. military releases clouds of zinc cadmium sulfide gas over Winnipeg, St. Louis, Minneapolis, Fort Wayne, the Monocacy River Valley in Maryland, and Leesburg, Virginia. Their intent is to determine how efficiently they could disperse chemical agents.
1953 Joint Army-Navy-CIA experiments are conducted in which tens of thousands of people in New York and San Francisco are exposed to the airborne germs Serratia marcescens and Bacillus glogigii.
1953 CIA initiates Project MKULTRA. This is an eleven year research program designed to produce and test drugs and biological agents that would be used for mind control and behavior modification. Six of the subprojects involved testing the agents on unwitting human beings.
1955 The CIA, in an experiment to test its ability to infect human populations with biological agents, releases a bacteria withdrawn from the Army's biological warfare arsenal over Tampa Bay, Fl.
1955 Army Chemical Corps continues LSD research, studying its potential use as a chemical incapacitating agent. More than 1,000 Americans participate in the tests, which continue until 1958.
1956 U.S. military releases mosquitoes infected with Yellow Fever over Savannah, Ga and Avon Park, Fl. Following each test, Army agents posing as public health officials test victims for effects.
1958 LSD is tested on 95 volunteers at the Army's Chemical Warfare Laboratories for its effect on intelligence.
1960 The Army Assistant Chief-of-Staff for Intelligence (ACSI) authorizes field testing of LSD in Europe and the Far East. Testing of the european population is code named Project THIRD CHANCE; testing of the Asian population is code named Project DERBY HAT.
1965 Project CIA and Department of Defense begin Project MKSEARCH, a program to develop a capability to manipulate human behavior through the use of mind-altering drugs.
1965 Prisoners at the Holmesburg State Prison in Philadelphia are subjected to dioxin, the highly toxic chemical component of Agent Orange used in Viet Nam. The men are later studied for development of cancer, which indicates that Agent Orange had been a suspected carcinogen all along.
1966 CIA initiates Project MKOFTEN, a program to test the toxicological effects of certain drugs on humans and animals.
1966 U.S. Army dispenses Bacillus subtilis variant niger throughout the New York City subway system. More than a million civilians are exposed when army scientists drop lightbulbs filled with the bacteria onto ventilation grates.
1967 CIA and Department of Defense implement Project MKNAOMI, successor to MKULTRA and designed to maintain, stockpile and test biological and chemical weapons.
1968 CIA experiments with the possibility of poisoning drinking water by injecting chemicals into the water supply of the FDA in Washington, D.C.
1969 Dr. Robert MacMahan of the Department of Defense requests from congress $10 million to develop, within 5 to 10 years, a synthetic biological agent to which no natural immunity exists.
1970 Funding for the synthetic biological agent is obtained under H.R. 15090. The project, under the supervision of the CIA, is carried out by the Special Operations Division at Fort Detrick, the army's top secret biological weapons facility. Speculation is raised that molecular biology techniques are used to produce AIDS-like retroviruses.
1970 United States intensifies its development of "ethnic weapons" (Military Review, Nov., 1970), designed to selectively target and eliminate specific ethnic groups who are susceptible due to genetic differences and variations in DNA.
1975 The virus section of Fort Detrick's Center for Biological Warfare Research is renamed the Fredrick Cancer Research Facilities and placed under the supervision of the National Cancer Institute (NCI) . It is here that a special virus cancer program is initiated by the U.S. Navy, purportedly to develop cancer-causing viruses. It is also here that retrovirologists isolate a virus to which no immunity exists. It is later named HTLV (Human T-cell Leukemia Virus).
1977 Senate hearings on Health and Scientific Research confirm that 239 populated areas had been contaminated with biological agents between 1949 and 1969. Some of the areas included San Francisco, Washington, D.C., Key West, Panama City, Minneapolis, and St. Louis.
1978 Experimental Hepatitis B vaccine trials, conducted by the CDC, begin in New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco. Ads for research subjects specifically ask for promiscuous homosexual men.
1981 First cases of AIDS are confirmed in homosexual men in New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco, triggering speculation that AIDS may have been introduced via the Hepatitis B vaccine
1985 According to the journal Science (227:173-177), HTLV and VISNA, a fatal sheep virus, are very similar, indicating a close taxonomic and evolutionary relationship.
1986 According to the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (83:4007-4011), HIV and VISNA are highly similar and share all structural elements, except for a small segment which is nearly identical to HTLV. This leads to speculation that HTLV and VISNA may have been linked to produce a new retrovirus to which no natural immunity exists.
1986 A report to Congress reveals that the U.S. Government's current generation of biological agents includes: modified viruses, naturally occurring toxins, and agents that are altered through genetic engineering to change immunological character and prevent treatment by all existing vaccines.
1987 Department of Defense admits that, despite a treaty banning research and development of biological agents, it continues to operate research facilities at 127 facilities and universities around the nation.
1990 More than 1500 six-month old black and hispanic babies in Los Angeles are given an "experimental" measles vaccine that had never been licensed for use in the United States. CDC later admits that parents were never informed that the vaccine being injected to their children was experimental.
1994 With a technique called "gene tracking," Dr. Garth Nicolson at the MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, TX discovers that many returning Desert Storm veterans are infected with an altered strain of Mycoplasma incognitus, a microbe commonly used in the production of biological weapons. Incorporated into its molecular structure is 40 percent of the HIV protein coat, indicating that it had been man-made.
1994 Senator John D. Rockefeller issues a report revealing that for at least 50 years the Department of Defense has used hundreds of thousands of military personnel in human experiments and for intentional exposure to dangerous substances. Materials included mustard and nerve gas, ionizing radiation, psychochemicals, hallucinogens, and drugs used during the Gulf War .
1995 U.S. Government admits that it had offered Japanese war criminals and scientists who had performed human medical experiments salaries and immunity from prosecution in exchange for data on biological warfare research.
1995 Dr. Garth Nicolson, uncovers evidence that the biological agents used during the Gulf War had been manufactured in Houston, TX and Boca Raton, Fl and tested on prisoners in the Texas Department of Corrections.
1996 Department of Defense admits that Desert Storm soldiers were exposed to chemical agents.
1997 Eighty-eight members of Congress sign a letter demanding an investigation into bioweapons use & Gulf War Syndrome.
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Post by 2.99(plus~tax) on Aug 21, 2008 22:49:59 GMT -5
you are most welcome grace
Listen steve, your bryzoan theory is good, no dispute there, but don't knock the chemtrails dear. The govt tests on us, on others and they have written it into the laws of America they can and will do this with little or no disclosure.
with respect to all, sincerely pnut
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Post by 2.99(plus~tax) on Aug 21, 2008 22:52:53 GMT -5
You don't want me to start on nanotechnology do you? (big grin)
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Post by godsgrace on Aug 21, 2008 23:03:57 GMT -5
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Post by 2.99(plus~tax) on Aug 21, 2008 23:13:07 GMT -5
I humbly introduce you to ANGELA BELCHER (She can turn water into gold I'm guessing) what should I title this article? Mmmmm let's see......day at the beach maybe..... www.popsci.com/category/tags/angela-belcherplaying with viruses and electronics (look at the pics in detail on right side) www.bioethicsinternational.org/?p=319"a government that is strong enough to give everything is strong enough to take everything" quote from Thomas Jefferson
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Post by 2.99(plus~tax) on Aug 21, 2008 23:15:54 GMT -5
okay I'm done for awhile. grace, I just felt like you needed some back up. Chemtrails suck balls, but they do indeed exist. I feel sorry for anyone who doesnt see it.
signing off, pnut
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Post by godsgrace on Aug 21, 2008 23:18:54 GMT -5
this has to do with another thread....angela asking about the light organisms and skytroll responding with info on "shells"
oh how it is all linked.
gg
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Post by snakeskincowgirl on Aug 21, 2008 23:43:20 GMT -5
Hi pnut, godsgrace, Steve... I personally know Clifford Carnicom, www.carnicom.com . My daughter is the 9 year old subject in "And now our Children". I totally support godsgrace's opinions and "chem-trails" are obviously very different from con-trails. One has to live in an area where the sky is "clear" enough to observe the difference. There is a direct link between the fibers found in chem-trails and "Morgellons" fibers. www.carnicom.com/morgvid1.htmThis info is not meant to discount the sponge theory, or other theory. But I am amazed that people don't see the difference between the chem-trails and con-trails, once they actually see them personally. sscg
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Post by angela on Aug 22, 2008 8:45:21 GMT -5
Thousands of eyewitnesses -- including pilots, police officers and military personnel -- report seeing up to eight or more tankers laying chemtrails in X patterns, parallel rows, tic-tac-toe or crosshatched lines.Interesting...
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Post by angela on Aug 22, 2008 9:17:54 GMT -5
steve.... we are dealing with a parasite that has plagued much of the life on this planet for centuries
gg..... and what you are proposing is that we are just now, in the past 20 years seeing the effects???
why didn't people get ill from this hundreds/millions of years ago?
Why couldnt this just show up in the last 20 years? Look at how much we have done in this century. Look at what we have inadvertantly filled the atmosphere with since the industrial age. We have changed our atomosphere into an acidic breeding ground for an acid-loving, self-lighting (bioluminating - look up how biolumination occurs) organism that HAS been here since Darwins' primordial soup.
Athsma was around when Socrates was alive and kicking. Cancer too. yep yep yep!
One huge disease tree with a trunk & root called Morgellons.
Morgellons has been around...... just gone by other names.
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Not sure of the reference above re: my other thread and skytrolls' response. Whats that about again? thanks!
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Post by godsgrace on Aug 22, 2008 11:28:44 GMT -5
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Post by jj on Aug 22, 2008 12:53:59 GMT -5
pnut, thank you for agreeing with my info. ;D People need to be educated to what is happening right under our noses. We all have Morg's...most have Lyme which everyone knows is a biological warfare weapon, most if not all of us have mycoplasma infections, again, bilogical weapons,, yet some people refuse to believe in the existence of chemtrails...even when they are able to see them with their own eyes...merely scoffing it off as contrails. Either these folks have a lot to learn or they are being paid to throw us off course/confuse us and aytempt to debunk us. your link was great...hadn't seen that one yet....there are so many. speaks volumes.....you said a mouthful! godsgrace Please, no more egotistical, demeaning, rude comments like Either these folks have a lot to learn or they are being paid to throw us off course/confuse us and aytempt to debunk us by ANYONE in jest or otherwise. Doing so will warrant a free vacation. That also includes any response to the administration that is anything other than apologetic in nature. Thank you JJ
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