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Post by kiki on Aug 20, 2008 20:54:29 GMT -5
hi mfromcanada. Ive been following your progress and was wondering if you tried the MMS topically. Also do you know if there ae different grades of sodium chlorite? Meaning is what youre taking the same used topically? Wonder if you can drink it AND use on skin or would that be too much of a good thing? Im thrilled for you - it sounds like youre responding at a nice steady pace and thats great. btw, you do a fantastic sum-up of your progress. I write like I talk---too much ;D and thanx for concern other day--was my own fault for letting frustration get best of me.
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Post by mfromcanada on Aug 22, 2008 9:06:54 GMT -5
Today I will take 33 drops. There is definately something toxic being eliminated via my daily bowel movement. I can tell by the smell as it doesn't smell right, it smells toxic. I had a sharp pain in the area of my liver yesterday. Also, I noticed last couple of days some sharp pain under my teeth, if you can imagine. My upper body is returning to its natural state, not bloated at all. My lower abdomen is still bloated but I still think this works top down. I had pain in the lymph nodes in my right armpit yesterday and it appeared swollen. My skin texture still nice, my head feels clearer last couple of days. My lesions inside nose are kept at bay with peroxide. The ones of my lips are merciless, recurring over and over again. Inside the lips too. I am going to continue pushing forward...
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Post by ruth on Aug 22, 2008 13:14:05 GMT -5
sodium chlorite is in the light/dye treatment.
i just saw this thread and am interested in
your results, as i could use this that i already have!
i don't like using the dye on my skin........it takes a long
time to not show, but i have been using the jeruselum
artichoke powder internally as it causes the cells to light up and putting tetracycline on the skin seems to get some action, but by the next day, it is all puffed up again regenerating.
i was under the light for 2 hours working yesterday working on a callus, using baking soda......then tetracycline.
i don't even get herx. at least you know it is working when
you are herxing...............
what it is doing is another question.
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Post by mfromcanada on Aug 23, 2008 23:20:23 GMT -5
Hi kiki, I think you can use it topically but that information is in book 2 which one must purchase and I have not purchased it. Today 34 drops. The muscles in my legs are more flexible than usual. This is a massive improvement. My skin is way nicer. I feel as though whatever is in/under my skin is shrinking as some of my skin feels looser like on my nose of all places. Also, my upper body is much more like it used to be. My lower abdomen is not as bloated but not 100% yet. I am still finding some very very long brownish twisting thin fibers around my body as well as some very short but thicker ones. The yellowy waxy substance appears to be coming out of the bottom of my feet which often appear dark coloured. The hair on my legs is growing much more uniformly than it has for several years. My lips are still a mess and I am continuing to treat them with peroxide both outside and in and feel as though it is a delayering process. My eye glasses seem to become covered with a bunch of small particles requiring cleaning numerous times a day. I am still getting some very deep stabbing painful sensations in weird places that do not last long. In the arch of my foot, one in one of my thighs, near my heart, lower legs, in the palm of my hand, in my upper arms. I feel these are the MMS killing the Morgellons. My bowel movements are still loose and toxic smelling. Also some of the material in the bowel movement appears very much like we get with the wine/peroxide mouth rinse. I have had a few instances of numerous soft fuzzy clear fibers coming from my fingers after doing dishes or soaking my hands. They come from between the fingers and from the tips. Night sweats/hot flashes have intensified and I believe the body heat increase is the immune system kicking into overdrive to kill this thing. I really think this is working. Will keep you posted...
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Post by mfromcanada on Aug 27, 2008 1:09:33 GMT -5
Today Tuesday Aug 26th I took 37 drops. Yesterday I vomitted really bad in the morning a couple of hours after taking the drink. I vomitted a whole lot of jelly like clumps. There was also brown crap. I think I am really expelling this crap now. I just keep taking it and feeling the improvement. My entire body feels more energetic and also more flexible.I am less tired now, down to one nap a day. My level of pain is down today too. MY lips are still a mess. Fibers are coming out of my fingers that looks like clumps of fuzz. A black speck came out of my arm and I examined under microscope. I kinda looked like a black bug with fibers coming out of its head. Some of the fibers looked red like they were full of blood. Some areas of my skin seem to be cracking or splitting. THe yellow waxy substance can be rubbed from the bottom of my feet. Hot flashes/night sweats still pretty bad. Still feel like fibers moving on my face a lot and in my hair. I am adding the fact that I had very painful charlie horses in my ankles and arches of my feet during the night. So painful I cried out in the night.
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Post by mfromcanada on Aug 28, 2008 9:26:15 GMT -5
Yesterday, Wednesday 38 drops. This was the PURGE FROM HELL. During the night I vomited very violently several times while at the same time I was having diarrea. My stomach was having very very bad cramps. I purged an enormous amount of material. I had eaten water melon and had taken a couple of coated aspirin before bed. This must be the purge the Jim Humble warned about. This must be why you increase slowly. This was bad and I am certain I purged out a lot of bad stuff...
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Post by ruth on Aug 28, 2008 11:31:19 GMT -5
wow, looks like it is expelling the amber goo stuff.
praying for you (us)
ruth
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Post by mfromcanada on Aug 28, 2008 15:18:43 GMT -5
Today I will definately drop down to 36 drops. I postponed taking my first drink until 12:30 as I was still pretty sick this AM. I still had diarrea. No more vomitting though. I can't believe the amount I expelled from my body. I feel a bit dehydrated today. I also feel a bit weak. Thanks for the support. I will continue on as I am pretty convinced that this is helping my health overall. I also noticed that I had pain in the area of my liver, spleen and heart following the horrible purge.
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Post by ruth on Aug 30, 2008 10:26:57 GMT -5
is the white waxy stuff (tracts) under your skin diminishing at all?
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Post by mfromcanada on Aug 30, 2008 18:05:19 GMT -5
Yesterday I took 36 drops and I still had a bit of diarrea. Today I took the first dose of 12 drops and I was very very ill again, vommitting and diarrea. The stomach cramps have bee terrible. I have been very very ill all day. From the mouth I am also expelling clear long stringy sputum which looks like candidiasis. This is beginning to seem like chemotherapy. The vomit and diarrea contains the same crap we expell with the wine/peroxide swish. I am convinced the yellowy crap is inside our liver, heart, spleen, stomach and intestines based upon what I am expelling as well as pain in these areas. Ruth, the white marks are not diminishing and some appear to be breaking through the skin. The hot flashes that I am having make my skin appear red and because of it when it happens I can see more and more of the white shapes under my skin. Some appear to be a network of some sort. Others appear as arc shapes and cross shapes. My skin is way more beautiful though. No more waxy/papery feel to it. It feels really soft. I have lost 4 pounds since I started and I have a lot less mass everywhere. I am going to go off the MMS until I recuperate as I just can't stand the stomach cramps, vomitting and diarrea. For everyones information I weighted 124 pounds when I began and now I am 120. I think I just found out my maximum dose which appears to be around 36 drops or a bit less. Therefore 12 drops 3 X a day. The literature says to take your maximum dose for 2 weeks but I don't think I can do that. I will keep posting how I feel over the next several weeks. I do think that it would be hugely beneficial if others would like to join me in posting their own trials of MMS so that we can come up with an ideal formula. I am still having stomach spasms and it is over 12 hours since I took the 12 drops of MMS. I realize now that I may have jumped more than one drop at a time, indeed I may have gone up by 3 by mistake. In addition the night of the evil purge I had eaten a whole lot of water melon and had taken 2 aspirin which probably made things a whole lot worse.
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Post by mfromcanada on Aug 31, 2008 18:30:50 GMT -5
Today I skipped the first dose but I started to feel a lot better so decided to get back at it. I had an itchy bum symptom again today and then I took 10 drops for the second dose. I really want to get up to my maximum dose and stay there for the 2 weeks. I think my maximum dose is 36 drops a day or 3 X 12 drops. I keep finding black fibers which are about 1 1/2 inches long, thinner on one end. I am finding them everywhere. I am also getting a lot of the brownish long twisty thin ones, clear ones too. I found a couple clear ones inside my socks and I know they were not there to begin with. I went for a long walk and AMAZINGLY I ran 3 half-blocks. I have not been able to run like that for years. I felt so wonderful an energetic for several hours. I had a bowel movement later and again the same yellow moss looking stuff was floating on top of the toilet water but this time with some small black specks throughout. In addition I noticed a brown oily looking mark in the palm of my hand which appeared out of knowwhere during my walk. Forgot to mention too that my armpits had lumpy itchiness that went away after a short while. I am going to try taking 10 drops at bedtime. I will keep posting.
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Post by mfromcanada on Sept 1, 2008 13:35:18 GMT -5
Today is Monday and I did 3 X 10 drops. Again loose bowel movement with lots of black specks this time and the same crap as yesterday. I have a bit a cramping in my stomach area. Some sharp pains in the area surrounding my anus. Also, the swelling at the base of my fingers appears worse today. The purple mottling on my legs is definately lightening up. I thought it would become permanent. I also noticed another spot in the palm of my right hand, appeared a bit like a brown greasy smudge.
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Post by ruth on Sept 1, 2008 13:48:30 GMT -5
hi, sodium chlorite is an herbicide. i get worried about you.
In organic synthesis, sodium chlorite is frequently used for the oxidation of aldehydes to carboxylic acids. The reaction is usually performed in the presence of a chlorine scavenger.
Sodium chlorite, like many oxidizing agents, should be protected from inadvertent contamination by organic materials to avoid the formation of an explosive mixture.
Recently, sodium chlorite has been used as a oxidizing agent to covert alkyl furans to the corresponding 4-oxo-2-alkenoic acids in a simple one pot synthesis.[1]
Sodium Chlorite is also sold as a "mineral supplement". A number of diseases, particularly including malaria, are claimed by its promoters to be cured by sodium chlorite
[edit] Herbicides Sodium chlorate is used as a non-selective herbicide. It is considered phytotoxic to all green plant parts. It can also kill through root absorption.
Sodium chlorate may be used to control
Due to its oxidative nature, it can be very toxic if ingested. The oxidative effect on hemoglobin leads to methaemoglobin formation, which is followed by denaturation of the globin protein and a cross-linking of erythrocyte membrane proteins with resultant damage to the membrane enzymes. This leads to increased permeability of the membrane, and severe hemolysis. The denaturation of hemoglobin overwhelms the capacity of the G6PD enzymatic pathway - in addition, this enzyme is directly denatured by chlorate reducing its activity. Therapy with ascorbic acid and methylene blue may be effective, however, since methylene blue requires the presence of NADPH that requires normal functioning of G6PD system, it is less effective than in other conditions characterized by hemoglobin oxidation. Acute severe hemolysis results, with multi-organ failure, including DIC and renal failure.
[edit] Formulations Sodium chlorate comes in dust, spray and granule formulations. There is a risk of fire and explosion in dry mixtures with other substances, especially organic materials, that is other herbicides, sulfur, phosphorus, powdered metals, strong acids. Particularly when mixed with sugar it has explosive properties.[2]
Marketed formulations contain a fire depressant, but this has little effect if deliberately ignited. Most commercially available chlorate weedkillers contain approximately 53% sodium chlorate with the balance being a fire depressant such as sodium metaborate or ammonium phosphates.
[edit] Trade Names The active ingredient sodium chlorate is found in a variety of commercial herbicides. Some trade names for products containing sodium chlorate include Atlacide, Defol, De-Fol-Ate, Drop-Leaf, Fall, Harvest-Aid, Kusatol, Leafex, and Tumbleaf. The compound may be used in combination with other herbicides such as atrazine, 2,4-D, bromacil, diuron, and sodium metaborate. In the United Kingdom there are many brands of Sodium Chlorate Weedkillers. Two well known ones are Doff and Wilkinsons. In Italy it is found under the Zapi brand, sold as "Grasskiller Liquid".
[edit] Cultural References In the May 2006 Exploding Pants episode of MythBusters, Sodium Chlorate was used as the secret ingredient to explore the story of 1931 New Zealand farmers, such as Richard Buckley, whose trousers exploded or caught on fire, leading to a number of deaths. James Watson of Massey University in New Zealand won an Ig Nobel Prize for agricultural history in October 2005 for his research into the exploding trousers of the early 1930s in New Zealand.
[edit] See also Chloric acid
[edit] References The references used in this article may be clearer with a different or consistent style of citation, footnoting, or external linking. This article has been tagged since September 2007.
^ Yunchang Zhang, Girish Kshirsagar, and James C. Cannon (1993). "Functions of Barium Peroxide in Sodium Chlorate Chemical Oxygen". Ind. Eng. Chem. Res. 32 (5): 966-969. doi:10.1021/ie00017a028. ^ Beveridge, Alexander (1998). Forensic Investigation of Explosions. Taylor & Francis Ltd. ISBN 0-7484-0565-8. "Chlorate de potassium. Chlorate de sodium", Fiche toxicol. n° 217, Paris:Institut national de recherche et de sécurité, 2000. 4pp.
[edit] External links International Chemical Safety Card 1117 Retrieved from "http://en.wikipediaorg/wiki/Sodium_chlorate" Categories: Chlorates | Sodium compounds | Desiccants | Pyrotechnic oxidizers Hidden category: Wikipedia references cleanup morning glory, Canada thistle, johnson grass, bamboo, ragwort and St John's wort. The herbicide is mainly used on non-crop land for spot treatment and for total vegetation control on roadsides, fenceways, ditches and suchlike.
Sodium chlorate is also used as a defoliant and desiccant for:
cotton, safflower, corn, flax, peppers, soybeans, grain sorghum, southern peas, dry beans, rice and sunflowers. If used in combination with atrazine, it increases the persistence of the effect. If used in combination with 2,4-D, it improves performance of the material. Sodium chlorate has a soil-sterilant effect. Mixing with other herbicides in aqueous solution is possible to some extent, so long as they are not susceptible to oxidation.
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Post by mfromcanada on Sept 1, 2008 20:07:29 GMT -5
ruth, Don't worry about me please. I think we need a herbicide. What is chemotherapy but poisin to kill cancer. I think of taking MMS like having chemotherapy. A short period of suffering for a whole lot of improvement. I have been suffering greatly since the year 2000 or for 8 years. At this point I have not tried anything else that has improved my mobility even this much. Please read Jim Humbles' book. He did a lot of research on Malaria patients and Aids patients with much success. Here is the link to his official site. www.miraclemineral.org/aboutauthor.php
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Post by ruth on Sept 1, 2008 22:43:21 GMT -5
thanks for the article, it not only relieved my mind, it pumped me up ! i am hoping it is stopping the internal ones from forming in you. then the rest of the stuff should just slough off?
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Post by mfromcanada on Sept 2, 2008 18:09:45 GMT -5
This morning I took 10 drops. I had cramps for about 6 hours afterwards. I ate yogurt and it helped some. I noticed another dark purple bruise about the size of a blueberry on the upper inside part of my left thigh. These appear out of nowhere in odd places from time to time. My eyesight is clear and sharp today as is my memory. I walked today but did not try running due to the cramps. I just pulled about 8 fibers from my clean socks and I never walked on the carpet. About 1/2 of them were from the inside of the socks. They are easy to spot as they are very shiny. One nonmover was about 3 inches long and the colour of red hair. Another nonmover about 2 inches but a bit darker with a clear tip. A black one just like the last one. The rest were shorter and thinner. All of them appeared to have a very pointy clear end and a darker other end. I took 2 dose about 1 hour late due to stomach cramps. No cramps after 2nd dose. I just removed another 6 fibers from my socks, 3 are about 1 inch long, two non-movers, the other definately a mover. all with a white/clear end, all with a thinner pointier one end than the other. 1 about 3 inches long and curled which was easy to uncurl. It was clear. I have had quite a lot of energy with a nap in pm about 2 hours... I did take 30 drops today.
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Post by mfromcanada on Sept 4, 2008 13:30:39 GMT -5
Yesterday I took 30 drops. I had diarrea and cramps all day. Tons of yellowy fiber filled liquid poured out of me all day long. I am back to 120 pounds. I also went for a long walk and stopped and sat on a park bench. I took off my socks and checked them in the sun and no fibers were present and I put my socks back on. Later that day I took off my socks and again there were at least 3 fibers which were around 1 1/2 inch long and black with a clear tip, pointier on one end.
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Post by mfromcanada on Sept 4, 2008 13:31:18 GMT -5
Today I am still feeling like I have the flue and I am still having diarrea. I decided to not take the first dose. Had diarrea all day long. Did not take any doses today. Not normal diarrea but a real flushing out... Excellent....
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Post by mfromcanada on Sept 5, 2008 19:56:13 GMT -5
Today is Friday and I decided to begin with 6 drops and after the 2nd dose still no problem. I had a bit of diarrea this am but no more. I definately have a lot more energy. I have not had a nap today and nor do I feel the need. The livedo verticulitus(mottling) on my thighs has definately lightened up noticebly. My face is a lot less itchy. I really enjoyed my walk and my muscles moved freely. Again, a small pain surrounding my anus. The stabbing pain in my hips is nearly cleared up. Even my lips a slowly getting better. I have noticed a lot more white shapes showing through my skin, especially around my lips. Arc shapes which see to join up. Also, arc-shaped white marks on both sides of my lips in the same spot. The white arc also goes through the bottom lip, just like forming a design. Less fibers in my socks today. I took 8 drops for the last dose, so in total 20 drops for the day.
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Post by paddel on Sept 5, 2008 20:09:10 GMT -5
Mfromcanada,
Thanks you so much for posting your results on mms on this forum. I will follow your progress on how well you will do longterm on mms.
paddel
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