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Post by zabrubon on Sept 13, 2008 0:53:04 GMT -5
I cut way down on my meds recently and today feel awful. Starting to get really tired again, sore in the neck area and hearing/feeling(not sure) buzzing in my head. But I only notice it when I retire for the evening and am lying in the quite. My nose was really itchy the other day and I just don't feel right. I am so tired of the meds and want to get better and so I take the pills. I don't want to take the abendzole. I am worried what it may be doing to me. I also take the tinidizole faithfully and am not worried about that one. Any ideas on which antibitic works well with this disease? I hear Ivermectin but again that is so strong. I don't know if I wrote this under the wrong tab, if I did I apologize in advance. If anyone has solutions, please PM me. Please no vitamines or home remedies, I am taking some great vitaminse and using a holistic MD that gives me all that. I see him next week and want to suggest alternative medication but need some ideas. Thanks. ChicagoBonnie
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Post by mfromcanada on Sept 13, 2008 2:21:19 GMT -5
chicagobonnie, I took doxycycline for nearly 2 years and while I took it I felt better. As soon as I stopped the symptoms came back with a vengence. If I were you I would try the MMS instead as it helps your immune system rather than destroy it.
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Post by felixwillford on Sept 13, 2008 19:11:41 GMT -5
mfromcanada,
I am really wanting to try the MMS.
Kmarie
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Post by felixwillford on Sept 13, 2008 19:15:28 GMT -5
CB,
Really sorry you are feeling bad, but happy to know you have someone to turn to. I made an appointment for October 14th with a new MD. I need my regular meds script updated and am fearful a bit.
I will await to hear your progress with your new MD and pray you feel better soon.
Kmarie
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Post by toni on Sept 13, 2008 20:36:00 GMT -5
Bonnie, I sure can understand your feelings on this. I can tell you what I did and maybe this can be of (some food for thought), as I was concerned after 9 months of taking meds every single day which did worry me about what can these do in the long run, or just because I was taking so many for so long - just my own concerns. And to my surprise...doing what I did, did the same thing as taking them daily - which I'll tell you so you can see what happened. First I'd like to say what I did (daily) while on the meds for 9 months. An antibiotic An antifungal An antiparsitical There was never a day go by in that 9 months or more that I didn't take these. These 3 types of meds were diligently taken every day without fail. The only difference was, some months I took a different (antibiotic, or a different antifungal, or a different antiparsitical)....but "always" I took the three daily of some kind. When I stopped (for my own observations on if this was helping) and because I too was concerned about being over medicated and hampering my immune, (3 days after I stopped taking everything) I popped out in a hundred brand new lesions, as though NOTHING I'd taken for 9 months straight did a thing! I was utterly shocked to be frank, and sickened that allllll that, did nothing....except I will say (those 9 months I had great relief from the symptoms)...the itching and crawlies etc and lesions. So it was a GREAT break from all that. But, the bottom line was, I saw nothing was killed off, (to my knowledge) and here I'd not only spent all that money on all those drugs (which of course had they done something, I'd of continued, but they did not, (except the relief) part. So....in also my observations and others, it was apparent that around the 1st of every month, and the 15th of every month, is when it seems/appears this stuff/critters/whatever gets MOST active and bothersome (torturous). So....I "for an experiment" thought...what IF I ONLY take my meds for 5 days in a row (just a day or two before the first of each month-for 5 consecutive days) and again, (just a day or two before the middle of each month again for 5 consecutive days)? Well...to my wonderful surprise, that worked JUST AS WELL as when I'd taken them all (every single day)! So....my moral of my little story here is, that might be a "way" to try, and you'll be cutting down on ingesting SO many meds, which that too can help your immune do what it needs to do. You will only be taking 5 days worth (in the beginning of each month) then go 2 weeks approx without any, then again you take them for another 5 days in a row (in the middle of each month). Might be worth a try. PS, something you said, "today you feel awful" because you've cut down. Yes, see (today and really yesterday and tomorrow and the next couple of days ARE when this stuff-morgs gets really going)....so that's why I did my meds full blast (in the middle of each month *and the first of each month * because from my observations, this is the time when Morgs needs the treatments most).
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Post by zabrubon on Sept 13, 2008 23:16:34 GMT -5
Toni, that is a great. I am so afraid of getting really sick again. Dear God, I just can't stand the thought, it almost makes me cry. Ok, enough, enough, I will cheer up here. Ok. I better now. I think I will have to get a calendar out and mark it down or i will forget how to take it. I forget a lot of stuff the last five years. Not happy about that at all. So, then I should take the meds like you do. I will try it. It can't hurt to try. If it does not work out, then I will go back full strength. I was also thinking of cutting my abendezole on half and take it that way too. My old doctor had me on the abendezole for twenty days and off for fourteen days then repeat. Just for the record, I am not as bad today as yesterday. Well going to bed now cause tired from working all day and making no money. ( ChicagoBonnie
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Post by zabrubon on Sept 13, 2008 23:19:26 GMT -5
Myfrocanada, what is this MSM anyway? I have lots about it but don't know if i can handle the throwing up. What is it made from and can it be mixed with antibiotics? Do you think my dr would know what it is? I will see him on Lunes(Monday)and let you know what he is suggesting. Talk to you in a day or two. ChicagoBonnie
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Post by zabrubon on Sept 13, 2008 23:20:10 GMT -5
Thanks KMarie for your prayers and i will keep you posted when about my doctor visit.
ChicagoBonnie
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Post by toni on Sept 14, 2008 10:38:51 GMT -5
This is how I use to do my calanders (when I was taking the meds and reducing them to be taken full strength at these times) Then I was able to give my system a break, during the time "inbetween the taking of meds". This calander shows the END days of Sept too because of when the meds would be taken. And when again the Morgs are worse during the mid of the month, and how I'd schedule my meds for an example. This 'scheduling' enabled me (while on meds) to have the same effects as taking them all every day....and this worked just as well by only taking them (during these bright green days) 5 consecutive days (just before the first of each month) and just a few days into the new month. And 5 consecutive days (just before the mid of each month) I suppose it's 5 days on, then stop. Then on the 11th day after stopping that they're resumed again for the 5 consecutive days again. I hope that makes sense.
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Post by mfromcanada on Sept 14, 2008 12:38:38 GMT -5
Chicago Bonnie, MMS is a "stabilized oxygen" formulation that is a 28% solution of Sodium Chlorite in distilled water. When a mild acid (lemon or lime juice, or citric acid) is added to a few drops of MMS, Chlorine Dioxide is created and when ingested, produces a major boost to the immune system, killing virtually every known pathogen, including bacteria, viruses, fungi, molds, and yeasts. This link has a great explanation... www.productdescriptions.info/mms.aspx
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Post by zabrubon on Sept 15, 2008 1:12:04 GMT -5
Wow Myofromcanada, who wrote that article? I want to try this and will ask my dr tomorrow about it.
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Post by mfromcanada on Sept 15, 2008 18:19:29 GMT -5
Hi, I got the article from the link in my post. I am not sure who wrote it.
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Post by scrambo on Sept 15, 2008 19:40:44 GMT -5
CB, I had good luck with the salt/vit.C regimen on lymephotos.com Also don't forget about John's cat's claw, etc. above.
Also what about Rife-type machine or zapper?
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Post by zabrubon on Sept 15, 2008 22:42:33 GMT -5
Today my doctor put me on the following: N-Acetyl Cysteine 1X day L-Glutathione an antioxidant 50 mg 1 x day Omega Life -3 a dietary suppliment 1 x day CBR complex(Equal Vitamin C and Bioflavonaoids with Acerola, Rutin and Hesperidin) 1x day CO-Q contains a oenzyme SAMe supports joint comfort funtion and mobility He also gave me probiotics\ He prescribed antibiotics as well. He wants me to take all daily. Whew! He said because it took time for my immune system to be destroyed by not eating, drinking and living life correctly, that it will take time to rebuild as well. Said I have the right idea by not eating fats, sugars or red meat. No more coffee either ( I have no clue what all the pills do but I will find out.. Gotta go now and get some rest. That is one thing I definetly need to improve on. CB
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Post by zabrubon on Sept 15, 2008 22:48:11 GMT -5
Toni, doctor said that was good idea but he wants to do it differnt. Said I should not cold turkey but I should cut down by one day, then eventually two days etc. Myfromcanada, doc said he gave me something similar to mms. I got so many pills I don't know which one it is similar to yours. Scambo, i tried cats claw a few years ago, loved it for the hot flashes i had, and sometimes I open one of those capsuls up and put in my bath water. Wierd huh? Yep, just thought I would get it on my skin and in my hair. What the heck why not. Going to go nighty nite now. Got a lot to do this week. Hope I have lots of energy with these meds. Ha. Will let you know. What is a zapper?
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Post by zabrubon on Sept 15, 2008 23:12:17 GMT -5
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Post by mfromcanada on Sept 16, 2008 10:37:02 GMT -5
ChicagoBonnie, I wonder what your doctor gave you that was similar to MMS as I have not heard of a single thing like this from the medical profession. Unlike you chicagobonnie, I have completely and utterly lost faith in the medical profession. I rather doubt that your doctor has prescribed you anything similar and for him to say so appears to be a lie to me. Sorry, but that's the way I see it.
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Post by gradysghostii on Sept 16, 2008 12:49:04 GMT -5
Bonnie, those are excellent recommendations by your doctor, nearly identical to what I am doing only no antibiotics as I have no doctor ...
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Post by toni on Sept 16, 2008 19:02:06 GMT -5
Bonnie, I'm happy for you that your doc is trying, that's what we need more of for sure. Same here Grady, I weaned too of the meds, and am doing the natural route and holding status quo as though I am on meds. Grady, is that you in your avitar? PS (( Bonnie and Mfromcanada)) not to get into your boths discussion about the MMS, but - I did notice that Bonnie said ( MSM ) which is entirely different than MMS. Just wanted to point that out in case that was the case.
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Post by zabrubon on Sept 17, 2008 0:13:48 GMT -5
Toni, good point on the MSM. That is exactly what I told the DR. My error. Oh well, I will see him again in two months. I will write it down for next visti. When I get in the office with him, I get all nervous and afraid that he might not prescibe me my meds and I get flusterd. Not only that I don't remember like I used to five years ago. Don't know if it is age, this disease or just pain alterimers setting in. Could be the drugs when I was young(ha just kidding)
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