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Post by toni on Oct 27, 2008 10:02:31 GMT -5
Blue Fiber (next to HUMAN HAIR) for size scale. It is much thinner than one single hair! As you can see. This blue fiber (with the weird end, as they seem to have) is textile (from my environment or what I've worn). I'll prove my case , (haha) PS - this was a moving twirling blue fiber (that I DUG out of my lesion from deep within). Be right back.
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Post by toni on Oct 27, 2008 10:09:12 GMT -5
I wanted to show you more first (dug these out too) from deep within my skin. You can see the "clubbed" end on the blue one best. The red/pink fiber is more "clear and frayed on the end". The human hair is there to realize the size of these fibers.Still getting them lined up to show you. Be right back
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Post by curlypainter on Oct 27, 2008 10:16:19 GMT -5
ToniSue Those look like the ones that I sent you, if they had been separated.......remember they looked like threads.. Curly
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Post by toni on Oct 27, 2008 10:18:03 GMT -5
This is a pic of the blue fiber I applied and left bleach on. Notice too, it did "bleach". Those "crystals" formed on the slide, because I'd had many many solutions on this fiber (lemon juice, TCA acid, alcohol, peroxide, then the bleach). But, my goal was one.
To "apply sooooo many solutions" to loosen the fiber structure up, so it would unravel.
Remember this fiber is thinner than one human hair, so working with it and a needle to do this was VERY difficult....but do-able.
Be back again with more.
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Post by toni on Oct 27, 2008 10:24:21 GMT -5
Yes Curly!
Yours look just like mine, as do Godogs, and everyone's I've experimented with! We all have "clothing" fibers in us. (IMHO) It's off our jeans, furniture, whatever we're around, they seem to get drawn/sucked into the skin, and then work their way back out, or if we have lesions, they're deep inside those too and then we can physically pick them out.
The question is (why) and (how) can this be? Something "contaminating" our bodies is causing a magnetic attraction to what we lay on, sit on, wear, etc...it seems?
And I say that only cause every fiber I examine, from you all too, not just mine, they're the same thing.
Isn't that weird?
Now...cotton fibers from cotton balls or Q-tips, those are clear under the scope, and don't separate! But those "cotton" fibers can be from medicine bottles or vitamin bottles or just plain ole cotton we might use on our skin...(or stuffing too from furniture).
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Post by toni on Oct 27, 2008 10:29:24 GMT -5
This one is off my black lacy slip I wear alot around the house. I took it right out of the dryer, and realized too....that the ends of the finest fibers ((( depending on the fabic blend/composition))) is what gets ( MELTED ) on the tips! See the ends of the black fibers there? This I simply pulled out of the threads from my slip! The ends are "clubbed like" because the heat of the dryer melted them - (just like the blue fibers in the very first picture of this post/thread). Interesting I hope. But I was hell bent of figuring out "WHY" the ends of some of the fibers were "clubbed or bulbous like" and now I know why! ;D Happy days on one thing (figured out) I think Be back with the separating of the blue fiber.
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Post by toni on Oct 27, 2008 10:35:30 GMT -5
This video...honest, is probably the most boring video on earth, but....what it is is I cut the fiber and kept messing with it to separate it. As you can see...this fiber is approx 3 to 5 times (thinner than human hair) so it's extremely difficult to do this, but anyone can with patience...and hahha believe me, the patience will be exhausted after doing this little thing too! ;D Cause it's VERY hard to do working with something that is super fine as these fibers are that get pulled into our skin. And...that's why these can "fit" in the skin too...because ONLY the finest of fine fibers are the only ones that can make it in! Oooops, forgot the video: s281.photobucket.com/albums/kk210/toniwoni2008/?action=view¤t=bluefiberapart.flv This video is just to show (that after the fibers we remove from deep within our skin are saturated enough with topical solutions, they will loosen enough to separate with a needle). And they'll keep separating, if one has the perserverance to continue with it. Also I'm using one of Mr Toni's insulin needles to separate the fiber (which is best seen at the beginning). What I'm trying to say is "in real life" these fibers are so fine, it's incredible, and difficult to work with.
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Post by toni on Oct 27, 2008 10:46:27 GMT -5
The other thing I'm trying to express is this:
One doesn't have to have existing lesions for the fibers to end up in the skin.
One can have perfectly fine looking skin, yet the fibers emerge.
And then this makes sense too, cause (where ever in our body the "contaminant" is most, where it's settled in?"....is where our magnetic contaminant/whatever it is, is mostly sucking/magnetizing/drawing in the fibers. And no need for external lesions...the stuff is inside us.
If one has "feet problems" they may be experiencing fibers emerging from their feet...cause whatever this stuff is...is drawing in the finest fibers. ((( just my thoughts from what I'm seeing over and over )))
The sores are another "thought".
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Post by curlypainter on Oct 27, 2008 10:46:48 GMT -5
Toni Sue I swear you where a Scientist in another life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by toni on Oct 27, 2008 10:51:37 GMT -5
hahaha that's funny! Just alot of trying to make sense of what doesn't seem to make sense.
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Post by toni on Oct 27, 2008 11:02:46 GMT -5
You know something else that's been consistent about the cocoons?
I'll try and explain this (it's hard in typing it), but here goes:
I have a thin blankie (hahah-blanket) I lay over my legs when I watch tv at night, since my legs are bare.
I have "not always used dryer sheets to dry the load of clothes".
When I wash 'my blanket that I lay on my legs' and then I pull it warm right out of the dryer - without having used a dryer sheet in the dryer - well...the MOST fascinating yet REVEALING thing has occurred to me.
Because it's all warm and yummy feeling right out of the dryer...I rub it all over my legs, cause it feels good and toasty warm.
WELL, WELL...TO MY SURPRISE did I see how the cocoons are then made! (IMHO)
The circular or rubbing motion of the fabric (threads/fibers) go round and round on the skin (cause we're wearing them) too...and "whatever is in us" having that magnetic effect, causes "fiber balls" or "cocoons" to then form on my legs!
Yep! And they stick like glue too. Little cocoony balls end up all over my legs! Just like from static they stick (which that part is very normal).
But here's the kicker...If I allow that blanket to stay on my legs, it's only a matter of time that the FINEST of fine fibers from that blanket will end up (get drawn) into my skin - which that's the part that isn't normal.
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Post by gradysghostii on Oct 27, 2008 11:31:01 GMT -5
I agree with you toni, I had red blue fibers all over and under my skin, not a single lesion on me, we are highly electrical and magnetic for some reason. Of course, once they get serious and identify these as normal fibers that will be the end of anyone taking us seriously.
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Post by toni on Oct 27, 2008 11:50:43 GMT -5
Grady, that thought EXACTLY occured to me too.
But then I chewed on it for a few days and thought of another "angle" that this finding is good.
First...the doctors maintain we have "our clothing fibers" we are presenting.
Yes, I agree with that - as that IS what we're showing them (alot). They are correct-imho. And that I think is why we're not getting anywhere too. WE do come off "questionable"...because we keep taking in thread from our clothes, and they can see that clear as day. ( that part now is reasonable) for what they're saying.
What ( the doctors ) haven't been "understanding" is:
The poem I'm calling it because it rhyms, is:
[glow=red,2,300]Under perfectly intact skin, these fibers lie within.[/glow]
This is the direction (the docs) need to be looking. Which is - "why" and "what" is causing fibers of our environment to be drawn into our skin.
Not that we have "clothing fibers". It's that the clothing fibers are in us.
That's the part they 'need' to see! Because that is why the "fibers" are such a mystery to us, and not them....they're not seeing or being told the whole picture.
I mean it's no different than if I said I have bugs/critters...and I bring a box of them in! Well...to "bring in a box of critters" means nothing, and is not the same as them (seeing them in my skin) at all. Two different worlds. And two different results from "them" too - one makes me look questionable, the other way shows I've got a problem.
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Post by gradysghostii on Oct 27, 2008 12:06:07 GMT -5
Right, I should have seen a doctor when I discovered them under my skin like a lattice, I was undeniable proof of something strange, but then, out of fear I have never mentioned the Morg word to a doctor, ever. When I first bought a scope and had extreme itching / crawling I found a lattice of fibers under my skin.
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Post by mfromcanada on Oct 27, 2008 12:39:49 GMT -5
I have white marks under the skin, kind of like a lattace in some places too...
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Post by felixwillford on Oct 27, 2008 14:53:48 GMT -5
GREAT WORK Toni!!!
The blue and white coming from my legs were definately from my blue jeans.
(as you demonstrated....it was pink fiber balls originally from my quilt that I found attached to my leg)
I do not have the pink quilt and NO MORE pink fiber balls!!!! My pink fiber ball had movement cuz it retained energy from my body.
Why do our bodies have so much energy? That is what needs to be solved. Perhaps too much emphasis has been placed on the Fibers. TONI~~~~~~~~this is a logical and scientific explaination. Absolutely, we are not delusional. No more focusing on a search for what the fibers are or are not.
Those who experience insect problems is because they have more insects where they live. I saw on PBS that just opening your front door to reach into the mail box..................that a person is exposed to up to 8000 species of insects and some we can barely see due to their size.
I do not see insect problems except ONLY in the summer. This cements this fact that the fibers and or environmental debris (insects if the season is right) is drawn into our skin.
Now to figure out why?
Toni, your proof here is the one and only logical and believable explaination for the fibers, insects, and debris our skin attracts.
Lets all think back to the beginning? I remember finding Threads and lint around the environment. Then I decided they were not threads or strings. The real fine ones I could not figure out. The crawly and stinging sensations caused me to second guess what these fibers were. NEVER did I find an insect. It only felt like insects or mites. Of course the scabies solutions didn't help!
We mislead ourselves by making it more complicated. They looked like textile fibers and they always were! We never should have second guessed ourselves.
Remember what Grady said when he first came on here? Something like......... it has to be the most logical answer.
Skin is the Largest organ of the body. When there is illness, the skin will react.
Yellow skin (liver) Blue skin (low oxygen) Poor skin tugor ( hydration ) ............list goes on
Nurses are taught to examine the skin in all assessments. The skin will indicate when something deeper is going on in the human body.
Hair is considered part of skin (losing or excessive growth indicates illness too)
A fungal aspect is reasonable to suspect. (due to insect attraction). Perhaps cuz we all have LYME (tested or not) our immune system allows this process of absorbing environmental debris into our skin.
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Post by bannanny on Oct 27, 2008 16:50:27 GMT -5
But when morg fibers were sent to the FBI forensic lab for identification via Dr. Wymore, they didn't match ANY of the known fibers in the database....... thousands of them! I think some of the fibers we may have definitely are textile, BUT....... they've been taken over by morg particles. Used for morg work per say, just like our hair has been used. These nano particles get into everything....... fabric, food, skin, and in my case the brain. Ha!
Morgellons particles get into the hair follicle and kills off the hair. The hair shaft becomes hollow for the particles to live inside of the shaft, which is what causes the movement in the hair. It's the particles moving inside of the hair shaft that makes the hair move. I also believe most of the fibers, especially the clear ones and the cobweb strands are produced by the gel and the particles live within (just like they do inside of the hair follicle) and are continuously being dispersed from within to contaminate everything all over again.
Somehow morgs sucks everything in....... just like the vacuum theory we've talked about toni. Just my views on it all....... great pix again toni!
bug hugs ~~ nanobrain
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Post by lilsissy on Oct 27, 2008 18:16:11 GMT -5
I found this article on genectically manipulated magnetic bacteria used to create sensors, Scroll half way down to the high lighted area tinyurl.com/59r5laGood work Tonie, Jen cut from above, fascinating is that they naturally grow strings of microscopic magnetic particles called magnetosomes. When placed in a magnetic field, the bacteria align like tiny swimming compass needles, a phenomenon call magnetotaxis. The research team is using genetic engineering to create a strain of the bacteria that become magnetic only when exposed to specific toxic chemicals, with the goal of using them as living chemical sensors. As a first step, they have created a strain that cannot make magnetosomes and therefore is not magnetic. Dr. Lloyd Whitman from NRL, who led the research team, explains that "during the course of our research, we realized that nobody had ever really demonstrated that being magnetic actually helps the bacteria." "Genetic modification
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Post by toni on Oct 27, 2008 19:58:49 GMT -5
Thanks Lilsissy, yes, there's much on those Magnetosomes (interesting bacteria) for sure. Lots to think about also. You know, the ONLY "thought" that comes to my mind about the fiber that didn't match any FBI stuff is this. Not that this is correct, but it's off the cuff on "what else it could be a case of". Say for instance (that particular patient) was me. I then give or they take my fibers now for examination. Well...mine would have easily matched something I'm sure, since I can match them easily to just about everything around me. Now...take that same senario and change one thing in it. The fiber that just happens to be "exposed for the scientists evaluation" is of a "material"...that the FBI doesn't have in their data base, as we all know, every year new stuff is being produced. The FBI can't possibly have every fabric or fiber of fabrics produced that's ever been manufactured, or that have been treated with a fire retardant. And there ARE fibers used with magnetic capacity that they spray on crops too...so that the application of pesticides stick better also. Not that that is what these fibers are, but who knows...maybe they are for all we know. We don't know if those "agricultural magnetic fibers have been put to the test of seeing if they're the same as what that person expressed from their skin or not (the infamous fiber). Nor do we know anything really. In fact, we don't know if we were exposed at even Disneyland (being funny but it's true) to fibers on a seat, that are not used commonly in every day life either. But...what if ( I'll say me for instance ) was at Disneyland, and sat on some "special treated fire retardant seat on a ride" and I happen to have Morgellons, and a fiber then entered into my skin without me knowing it (or many fibers) of that particular material....and then 10 years down the road my fibers are now being tested! See? The FBI might not even have that in their data base. That's where this might be getting "screwy"...in that just because the FBI doesn't have it...well, it doesn't mean they have everything ever made that each and every one of us has ever been exposed to. And just as much as that can be true, there ARE carbon nano tubes used in electronics that some people are now infected with Mesothoelima(sp?) in their lungs. Maybe the infamous fiber is of that nature (from that person's electronics) and how it got there in their skin...is the same way my blue jeans fibers are getting into my skin. Something is drawing "our environment"...into our body and skin from our surroundings as we can see that part. So whatever we're around...it's looking like it ends up in the skin "at some point". Now if we get those 'fibers' tested, it's going to be a hit and miss with the FBI - cause that part is only dependant on what they have to compare it with. What was found was said to be nano tube I think...well, that " particular" fiber seriously might have been just that. But, from what I'm seeing...it's not what they'd find in me. Mine and many of your fibers I've taken pictures of WE all can see those under my 60X -100X magnification! If those were 'nano' anything, I'd need a scope that could see 25,000 times I think. We all are experiencing (our environment) threads/cottons/polyesters/ all kinds of stuff we're getting out of our very own skin. Just depends on "who has been around what"...and THAT is what is going to be found - and I'll bet all kinds of different things since we've all been everywhere.
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Post by bannanny on Oct 27, 2008 21:57:45 GMT -5
Yep, I see what you're saying toni. I think we're like magnets for some reason....... and the particles are now (IMO) in EVERYTHING! But they're attracted to us and that I think is what we need to find out. Why? Why are they attracted to us? There's something going on inside of us that attracts this stuff like a magnet tho....... I just wish we couild figure out what that is. So many EMF's all around us these days and we're like a catalyst or something. It's just all so very wierd....... and so very confusing huh?
hugs ~~ bannanny
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