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Post by kammy on Feb 4, 2009 16:50:38 GMT -5
Possible Positive Identification of the Fibers Pending Further Review and Testing As a victim of Morgellons of approximately 1 year, and over the past 7 months being in the heavy throngs of this disease and also being retired, I have spent extensive hours passing the time in a bed-ridden state of this illness, researching the possible causes of Morgellons. This is my educated summation of an approximate scenario of how Morgellons comes to be known or into existence. Most of my theory is based on factual, first-hand information, of course, there are still many unknowns, but I believe my theory will shed the light on a specific direction to look to find the pathogens involved. There will need to be further investigation by people of science who have more thorough answers than myself, your input is appreciated. First of all, I have identified the 'fibers' that are coming out from under the skin of Morgellons victims to be exactly or approximately the same ones that are found in our toilet paper or toilet tissue. I have turned this information over a biology scientist, who has verified this initial, visual inspection claim to be TRUE, and is currently running tests and preparing a report for the community, to be published shortly. Anyone with a child's microscope, under the least magnification possible, can verify that what I say is TRUE. I surmise that if we look at the production of toilet paper with the more than likely, addition of GM modified trees with a biological process called 'Horizonital Inheritance' - we should find most all of the Morgellons pathogens. That Morgellons is a systemic allergic reaction to these pathogens that the body is emitting from the skin. If you take the biofilm scab portion from your skin lesion and then compare it to the 'fluffier', name brand toilet papers, (just shred the toilet paper over your slide, with the residue from the shredding, and put on a cover glass, no need to wet it), you will see the exactness of the fibers in size and in the colors, ranging from the fluorescent orange, purple, red, yellow, etc. I could not discern one slide from another, the skin vs. the toilet paper slides, when initially viewing the two to compare, that's how identical they appear - visually. I am publishing this information today, in advance of the upcoming scientific report, so that specific scientists relating to this field, or people with better testing equipment can further verify my claim, to hopefully, speed up this process so that we can identify the pathogens and get the proper treatments from our Medical Professionals. Also, to give this scientist a place to present their findings, if they desire. I am currently in a still infected state, I have not been received well by my Medical Community, I am hoping that this information will shed some correct light on the Morgellons mystery, so that those like myself, who are suffering - can get treatment sooner, than later. If anyone reading this knows any scientists, group, professionals that can look at this piece of information and further verify it - please direct them to this link.
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Post by kammy on Feb 4, 2009 17:27:29 GMT -5
Part 1 of: Horizonital Inheritance with Trees and Toilet Paper Causing Morgellons Fibers My theory below in its 'roughest' form - because, I am not a scientist in this field - this information is so newly discovered by me, and will be modified as more factual information comes in to verify or discredit my claims. The GM tree contains pesticides that have been injected into its genetics. The pesicides are in place to kill various tree insects that are predators to these trees, however, the pesicides do not work due to the insects becoming immune, leaving live insects in their various stages inside the tree. The 'BT' bacillus thuringiensis that is found naturally in the soil creates what is known as "Bt-toxin" which leeches into the root system and alters the composition of the microbal community in the soil - these bacteria are picked up and distributing it, throughout the entire eco-system of the tree. "Growing information suggests that BT crops can produce allergies and respiratory illnesses in human beings. In a recent study by the Director of the Norwegian Institute for Gene Ecology, found evidence of disease in humans was triggered by an immune reaction to bt-toxin in Phillipine farm workers living near a field of BT modified corn. Because tree pollen can travel for hundreds of miles, genetically modified trees could have quite an effect on human health."
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Post by kammy on Feb 4, 2009 18:03:07 GMT -5
Part 2 of: Horizonital Inheritance with Trees and Toilet Paper Causing Morgellons Fibers
TOILET PAPER In the cleaning process - it is known that the pesticide cannot be 'washed' from the tree when getting the tree/paper ready for production into toilet paper because the pesticide is a living gene that's part of the tree. By using toilet paper - through either: 1. By airborn vectors, the snapping of the toilet paper releases the fibers or pathogens to be breathed, the fibers and/or other pathogens go to the lungs and then systemically to other organs. 2. The fibers and other pathogens when they come into contact with the blood - can possibly 'jump' directly into the blood stream - as one who might use toilet paper to stop a bleeding cut? The toilet paper is used to blow or wipe the nose with, and in this process, the fibers enter the nasal passages and/or the lungs? From the lungs - the fibers become systemic. 3. Direct contact with the skin in the anal or nasal regions and also, more than likely - with a possibly a break in the skin, such as where a bleeding hemorroidal condition might exist, or a bleeding nose? Or, the fibers and other pathogens are introduced into the skin if direct contact is made for any length of time - such as putting toilet paper in your ears, as one might do with an ear ache, adding a solution, and then using toilet paper to plug the ears. The pathogens are introduced into the blood stream or lungs and become systemic this way. Morgellons victims who have had long-term signs and did not necessarily catch theirs from someone who is known to have it - might have had hemorroids in the past, an eczema condition inside their the ears, or signs of lung conditions such as a COPD diagnosis prior to evident Morgellon symptoms, as something in common? Also, to cover all bases - we could introduce another pathogen that could be hidden in our bodies such as a nematode parasitic condition that is the 'magnet' that causes the toilet paper pathogens to 'jump' into the human body when one of these above conditions are met? Also, an insect bite from certain species could be a 'trigger' that causes Morgellons to be evident. That the pathogens from the toilet paper may lie dormat inside all of us - awaiting this 'other' trigger to happen to cause Morgellons to appear. Also, other natural pathogens such as certain fungus that are found in trees, could be a factor/s involved during this processing into toilet paper. There is an 'attractant', magnet-like, electrical, biological relationship between one of the already existing components/pathogens, in our bodies - and with the fibers in toilet paper, that causes the fibers to 'jump and start a life cycle' in the human body, and that causes the fibers to change into a 'life form', if it wasn't already one before, the fibers seem to have a nano-programmed nature about them. That the fibers in toilet paper are GM modified, and their creator was not aware of the possiblities when various other sets of conditions come into contact with their fiber-creations? Or, the fibers knowingly contain a form of programming that causes them to reproduce, twist, and take on other known, reported and recorded Morgellons fiber characteristics. There is a symbiotic relationship between the pesticides, nematode, BT, the pine pollen, and the fibers, that was not known to science that could happen, if these 5 condtions were met to create evident Morgellons in a human. The black 'seed' specks - could be as reported by the Morgellons.org site - parasitized pine pollen, indicating that the insect pathogens involved are possibly from pine trees? Let us not rule out that they might be emissions from a nematode either emitting its galls or using the 'BT' and creating "BT galls" as a by-product or the galls are simply from the Bacillus Thuringiensis or another of the bacillus family? We need to look at toilet paper distribution in the outbreak areas of Florida, California and Texas to see what these 3 locations had in common.
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Post by robertalouise26 on Feb 4, 2009 19:09:15 GMT -5
Hi kammy I was so pleased to read your post. I have thought and been aware that there is something unusal in our toilet paper, especially when I used it to absorb blood if I scratch or pick on my lesion and the same with my ears. I thought that I was the only one and didn't want everyone to think that I am balmy. Your are so brave to mention this. I applaud you and I am very grateful for your post I am sure that you are onto something I have been sitting here for an hour watching fibres from under my finger nails swaying to and fro and up and down, they almost memorise me, and frighten me. I burn them of my fingers with a cigarette lighter and what remains is a little black "thing" Once again thank you so very much for your post. Love and best wishes. Roberta.
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Post by kammy on Feb 4, 2009 19:48:02 GMT -5
Hi Roberta,
Yes, I have a half bathroom with just a toilet and sink, in which I sit and face a window that allows the full sun to come in. With this sunlight enabling me to see - I have been noticing for some time - the amount of 'debris', the tiny fiber-like 'lint' that comes off the paper when I pull on it to separate the sheets. I pretty much have my face close to where the dispenser is, and once I realized how much 'stuff' is becoming air-born with each snap - I've made a point to not breathe deep when I'm doing this.
However, there's been thousands of times that I've done this without even being aware, and wonder at the amount of toilet paper debris that's in my lungs? Most of the time, we aren't sitting where we can observe these 'invisible' particles do this. Please, be aware.
It's a shame that we can't get the right treatment and have to deal with this insidious disease, when if they just had a clue like this one - hopefully will bring - we could easily be well?
I'd recommend you buy your toilet paper at a local health food store which carries environmentally 'safe' paper - until you can get well.
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Post by kammy on Feb 4, 2009 20:17:10 GMT -5
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Post by kammy on Feb 4, 2009 21:28:27 GMT -5
Part 3 of: Horizonital Inheritance with Trees and Toilet Paper Causing Morgellons Fibers THE ROLE OF HORIZONITAL INHERITANCE OR GENE TRANSFER antimicrobial.blogspot.com/2008/09/horizontal-inheritance.html"Cloning bacteria is the easiest thing on earth. They just copy their DNA and then split themselves in half with one copy of the genome in each half. The end products are two exact duplicates of each other that can then go on to divide some more. Bacteria do however, have variation. Rather than getting their variation from unique combinations of parental DNA, they get it from their neighbors. This process is called horizontal gene transfer. It's kind of like a white elephant exchange. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. They don't know what they are going to get. Except in this case their lives depend on it. If they get worse genes, they'll die. If they get better genes, they live and do better than their neighbors." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizontal_gene_transferHorizontal gene transfer (HGT), also Lateral gene transfer (LGT), is any process in which an organism incorporates genetic material from another organism without being the offspring of that organism. By contrast, vertical transfer occurs when an organism receives genetic material from its ancestor, e.g. its parent or a species from which it evolved. Most thinking in genetics has focused upon vertical transfer, but there is a growing awareness that horizontal gene transfer is a highly significant phenomenon, and amongst single-celled organisms perhaps the dominant form of genetic transfer . Artificial horizontal gene transfer is a form of genetic engineering. As Jain, Rivera and Lake (1999) put it: "Increasingly, studies of genes and genomes are indicating that considerable horizontal transfer has occurred between prokaryotes."[4] (see also Lake and Rivera, 2007).[5] The phenomenon appears to have had some significance for unicellular eukaryotes as well. As Bapteste et al. (2005) observe, "additional evidence suggests that gene transfer might also be an important evolutionary mechanism in protist evolution."[6] There is some evidence that even higher plants and animals have been affected and this has raised concerns for safety.[7] However, Richardson and Palmer (2007) state: "Horizontal gene transfer (HGT) has played a major role in bacterial evolution and is fairly common in certain unicellular eukaryotes. However, the prevalence and importance of HGT in the evolution of multicellular eukaryotes remain unclear."[8] Viruses The virus called Mimivirus can itself be infected by a virus called Sputnik. "Sputnik’s genome reveals further insight into its biology. Although 13 of its genes show little similarity to any other known genes, three are closely related to mimivirus and mamavirus genes, perhaps cannibalized by the tiny virus as it packaged up particles sometime in its history. This suggests that the satellite virus could perform horizontal gene transfer between viruses — paralleling the way that bacteriophages ferry genes between bacteria."[10] Prokaryotes Horizontal gene transfer is common among bacteria, even very distantly-related ones. This process is thought to be a significant cause of increased drug resistance; when one bacterial cell acquires resistance, it can quickly transfer the resistance genes to many species. Enteric bacteria appear to exchange genetic material with each other within the gut in which they live. There are three common mechanisms for horizontal gene transfer: Transformation, the genetic alteration of a cell resulting from the introduction, uptake and expression of foreign genetic material (DNA or RNA). This process is relatively common in bacteria, but less common in eukaryotes. Transformation is often used to insert novel genes into bacteria for experiments, or for industrial or medical applications. See also molecular biology and biotechnology. Transduction, the process in which bacterial DNA is moved from one bacterium to another by a bacterial virus (a bacteriophage, commonly called a phage). Bacterial conjugation, a process in which a living bacterial cell transfers genetic material through cell-to-cell contact." In laymen's terms - it looks there's already a variety of 'mixtures' in existence and they can cross over from bacteria to viruses to parasites, creating new 'entities'. And, there are possibly several new entities already in existence in our GM tree world?
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Post by kammy on Feb 4, 2009 21:45:32 GMT -5
Part 4 of: Horizonital Inheritance with Trees and Toilet Paper Causing Morgellons Fibers
POSSIBLE PATHOGENS I believe there are many and a variety of pathogens involved with Morgellons. However, these mentioned below stand out and are highly suspect, look at the photo in the link at: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eukaryote of this eukaryote inside the membrane - to me, it resembles the "C-Shaped" parasite that clamps onto the skin and mimicks or resembles our skin. Possibly, there's many combinations, and several generations of these organisms that have been 'crossed over', that might not even be known or documented, all created with genetic engineering? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizontal_gene_transferEukaryotesAnalysis of DNA sequences suggests that horizontal gene transfer has also occurred within eukaryotes, from their chloroplast and mitochondrial genome to their nuclear genome. As stated in the endosymbiotic theory, chloroplasts and mitochondria probably originated as bacterial endosymbionts of a progenitor to the eukaryotic cell.[11] Horizontal transfer of genes from bacteria to some fungi, especially the yeast Saccharomyces cerevisiae, has been well documented.[12] There is also recent evidence that the aduki bean beetle has somehow acquired genetic material from its (non-beneficial) endosymbiont Wolbachia. [13] New examples have recently been reported, demonstrating that Wolbachia bacteria represent an important potential source of genetic material in arthropods and filarial nematodes. [14] There is also evidence for horizontal transfer of mitochondrial genes to parasites of the Rafflesiaceae plant family from their hosts (also plants),[15][16], from chloroplasts of a not-yet-identified plant to the mitochondria of the bean Phaseolus[17], and from a heterokont alga to its predator, the sea slug Elysia chlorotica[18]. "Sequence comparisons suggest recent horizontal transfer of many genes among diverse species including across the boundaries of phylogenetic "domains". Thus determining the phylogenetic history of a species can not be done conclusively by determining evolutionary trees for single genes."[19] Fungal cellFungal cells are most similar to animal cells, with the following exceptions: A cell wall containing chitin Less definition between cells; the hyphae of higher fungi have porous partitions called septa, which allow the passage of cytoplasm, organelles, and, sometimes, nuclei. Primitive fungi have few or no septa, so each organism is essentially a giant multinucleate supercell; these fungi are described as coenocytic. Only the most primitive fungi, chytrids, have flagella. See also:Agrobacterium, a bacterium well known for its ability to transfer DNA between itself and plants."
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Post by kammy on Feb 5, 2009 3:07:21 GMT -5
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Post by kammy on Feb 5, 2009 11:31:58 GMT -5
Part 5 of: Horizonital Inheritance with GM Trees and Toilet Paper Causing Morgellons Fibers and Disease
CONCLUSION 1 The pesticides, fibers, insects/parasites, pine pollen, 'BT' and/or agrobacterium, fungus, viruses from GM manipulations, etc., all 'live' or are/were within the environment of the toilet paper. That today's cleaning methods used to clean pulp in the paper-making process, is not efficient enough to clean out the GM modified elements within the GM tree. The GM tree is pure pesticide and it's removal - impossible. When studying today's toilet paper - the Morgellons fibers are very much evident in certain brands. However, at this time, it is not known how many or if any of the other pathogens mentioned are contained in today's toilet paper products, that this was probably a 'bad batch' of diseased or infested trees that went out in the form of toilet paper - at the time of the Florida, Texas and California outbreaks? A flow chart might look like this: direct or prolonged skin contact -> unknown? direct breathing of fibers into lungs -> likely direct contact with bleeding -> most likely It is possible that a person could be carrying, unknown to them, these above mentioned pathogens from toilet paper within their bodies without evident signs of Morgellons, it is not known at this time, whether this is a true statement or not? If this is a true statement, what sets off the Morgellons to be evident, is known as a 'trigger', as has been suggested, a weak immune system and/or stress. It is not known if stress and a weak immune system alone are enough to allow Morgellons to be evident, or if it takes another event to be the 'trigger'? Some other suggested triggers might be: 1. Continious ingesting of pesticides in all the forms possible, to add to the internal pesticide load, creating 'pesticide build-up'. 2. An insect bite 3. The introduction of another type of parasite, bacteria, fungus, virus, etc. 4. The system becoming overly toxed or diseased by any other or specific means 5. Environmental triggers 6. Other diseases or conditions already in existence The Morgellons pathogens might not be readily identifiable by traditional specialists in each field pretaining to each pathogen because of the Horizonital Inheritance or Gene Transfer aspect of bioscience which allows geneticists to inject genes from one specimen into another. The Morgellons pathogens will probably require careful examination by GM tree modification bioscientists, who are knowledgeable in this area - to determine exactly what pathogens are involved here. I believe that with time, we will know the answers to these unknown questions. And, that if there's anyone out there within this community that has any way of testing toilet paper or offering to collaborate - please put your results or conclusions in this tread to help us all?
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Post by robertalouise26 on Feb 5, 2009 21:23:12 GMT -5
Dear kammy I have already posted that I think that you are very very right about the toilet paper issue. Maybe it comes from the wood pulp that the toilet paper is made. I am very sure that you are on to something. I wonder if the same applies to tissue paper? It wouldn't surprise me at all. Once again thank you so much for your posts. Love and best wishes. Roberta.
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Post by robertalouise26 on Feb 5, 2009 21:47:50 GMT -5
Dear kammy what you are saying covers a very wide area. I have been very very sick and in the last 6 months have been struck with aggresive rheumatoid arthrtis. I am only telling you this not for sympathy but trying to get to the bottom of this. The arthritis appeard after I just slipped on the kitchen floor. I was in terrible pain in my fingers and wrists and eventually went to the Doctor thinking that I had green stick fractures in both wrists which ended up that I didn't have but it caused the rheumatoid arthritis to rear its ugly presence. I have an infected rheumatoid nodule on my right elbow. Which just will not clear up, so now I have to have it cut surgically, now I am wondering if the dressings absorbent pads and sticking plaster ap[plid to the infection is made from wood pulp thus the lesion is not clearing up? I have a district nurse call 3 times a week to change the dressing? This would apply to anything that is made from wood pulp! Changing the subject a little. I have a friend who works in the hospice shop just up the road from me I always go in and browse to see if I can find any cheap clothes. Well I asked Gail how she and the family were, and she told me that her daughter had just come back after a holiday in Thailand. We talked about her daughters trip and I asked her if she had bought any clothes from Thailand. Well Gail told me that her daughter went and bought some Thai silk, but when she took it back to the hotel she was staying in and had a good look at the silk it was covered in worms! !!! !!! Naturally she just through it out. I hope you get support from plenty of other people. Love and best wishes. Roberta.
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Post by kammy on Feb 5, 2009 22:45:59 GMT -5
Part 6 of: Horizonital Inheritance with GM Trees and Toilet Paper Causing Morgellons Fibers and Disease
A CASE EXPERIENCE
All I have is my personal experience with Morgellons to draw an intelligent, deductive, opinion from. Since I have witnessed someone contracting Morgellons from me and seen their symptoms to compare mine to, which are very different than mine, I have concluded, along with other information that there are at least two different 'types' of Morgellons disease, possibly more.
For example, I have touched and viewed the lesions of a man who states that he's had his rough, sandy, open skin lesions for approximately 15-20 years, these emit ongoing, tiny black specks, which I also saw in his washing machine, lint trap, in his shower, and on his white tile, bathroom floor. He may also be emitting the white specks but this was not evident since most of the places I witnessed had a white background. This emitting of black specks with many, small, open rough, sandy lesions is his only visible skin symptom, he remarked than his cognitive thinking has been 'different' in the past few years, 'that he has lost something, and is not near as sharp as he used to be' like an on-going mild, 'mind fog', and remarks about a noticeable change in his belief system, awareness in some areas and less in others, and his value system changed, no longer had a big interest in making money - remarks that a 'stroke-like' episode occurred a few years ago - yet has no signs that a stroke happened today.
His Morgellons characteristics are nothing like what is being reported today - what you might call today's multi-pathogenic or 'super' versions. From witnessing his Morgellons, it makes sense that the Morgellons symptoms and characteristics have changed through time?
Because the Morgellons pathogens are not and have not been easily identified, this is why I introduce the 'Horizonital Inheritance' aspect to my theory. That it possibly started out as fairly simple modifications with each modification, taking the experiments to further levels, etc., it has possibly morphed into a conglomoration of currently unidentifed species and strains, which over time, are now mutated great-grandchildren of the original known pathogens that contain some very bizarre genetic crossings that have been added gradually along the way?
Based on viewing this man's 15-20 year version - the determining factor of what symptoms show themselves, I believe, is when, what year, a person initially contracted Morgellons or when they started showing the signs of the symptoms? Of course, observing one older case is not enough to draw a scientific conclusion from, however, this is something that needs to be looked at in greater numbers to draw better conclusions.
It would be interesting to view the statistical data of when GM trees were first starting to be used in the production of paper products, namely toilet paper. Specifically, to look at when this process started and what was each step in the genetic modifications, along with their timelines?
TYPES OF MORGELLONS
I call the victims who had their initial outbreak to develop in their heads with scalp lesions, who had no other possible contact with a known, existing Morgellons victim, and had a severe 'outbreak', a complete 'body takeover' where there was a massive 'raining down' of particles that fell from their head onto other body parts to create more lesions - the "Primary Carrier". And, the people who, like nurses, in particular, who caught their Morgellons from a "Primary Carrier", or their lesions first appeared in other places, besides their scalps - I call these - "Secondary Carriers".
I have witnessed the pathogens emitted by both myself, labeled a "Primary Carrier" and the person who contracted it from me - a "Secondary Carrier". I won't go into detail here on how I am almost positive that they contracted it from me, but conclude, that if the more modern, 'super versions' of Morgellons are involved - that the "Primary Carriers" definitely are contagious, especially, if they have not received antibiotical and possibly other treatments. I have witnessed first hand, that it is a possibility that the "Secondary Carriers" can also be contagious under certain circumstances, mostly by them not receiving treatments. It appears that since the symptoms of the "Secondary Carrier" are not as great as the "Primary Carriers'" in the amount of the 'debris' that is emitted, and other 'involvement', and that the black specks/seeds may not even be a factor with the Secondary Carrier's symptoms, the Secondary Carrier may have completely different symptoms than from the "Primary Carrier" that they contracted theirs from. And, that the "Secondary Carriers" may not be as contagious as the "Primary Carriers" and with suggested possible antibiotic, steroid, fungal, anti-viral and topicals, for both types, may end up not being contagious at all. I surmise that the variables of 'when' a person contracted their Morgellons along with whether they are a Primary or Secondary Carrier is possibly why we are getting the difference of opinion on whether Morgellons is or is not contagious and why there are so many different, and individual symptoms?
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Post by kammy on Feb 6, 2009 0:27:35 GMT -5
Dear kammy what you are saying covers a very wide area. I have been very very sick and in the last 6 months have been struck with aggresive rheumatoid arthrtis. I am only telling you this not for sympathy but trying to get to the bottom of this. The arthritis appeard after I just slipped on the kitchen floor. I was in terrible pain in my fingers and wrists and eventually went to the Doctor thinking that I had green stick fractures in both wrists which ended up that I didn't have but it caused the rheumatoid arthritis to rear its ugly presence. I have an infected rheumatoid nodule on my right elbow. Which just will not clear up, so now I have to have it cut surgically, now I am wondering if the dressings absorbent pads and sticking plaster ap[plid to the infection is made from wood pulp thus the lesion is not clearing up? I have a district nurse call 3 times a week to change the dressing? This would apply to anything that is made from wood pulp! Changing the subject a little. I have a friend who works in the hospice shop just up the road from me I always go in and browse to see if I can find any cheap clothes. Well I asked Gail how she and the family were, and she told me that her daughter had just come back after a holiday in Thailand. We talked about her daughters trip and I asked her if she had bought any clothes from Thailand. Well Gail told me that her daughter went and bought some Thai silk, but when she took it back to the hotel she was staying in and had a good look at the silk it was covered in worms! !!! !!! Naturally she just through it out. I hope you get support from plenty of other people. Love and best wishes. Roberta. Hi Roberta, I'm afraid that this thread may not get the support it needs. People can become afraid to become involved for whatever reasons? I think when someone hears the truth, or close to it - it can be a scary thing - with time, hopefully, as this information sinks in - and people realize what has most logically happened, more will come along to help solve this riddle? I need help here, feel free folks to challenge my statements especially, if you do not agree totally, that's how we learn. I wasn't aware that certain bandages contained wood pulp, but, it doesn't surprise me. I recommend that until we know more - that we avoid 'fiber' products all together when we can. With Q-tips, they make a synthetic material product, which I don't know, at this time, if this is a better product than cotton or what these synthetic fibers look like under microscopy? Maybe I can look soon and report what I see, or someone else might do this that comes along? We're looking specifically for a positive ID to be at least 4 florescent appearing fiber colors, usually red, blue, orange, yellow, purple, etc. which can presently be seen upon minimal microscopic magnification of our fluffier toilet paper brands. I hear of people taking a good combination of prescribed drugs for their Morgellons and they have reported that they start feeling better right away, the drugs appear to work for a short time and then - they are sick again. This might indicate that we can possibly re-contaminate ourselves by re-introducing the Morgellons fiber products, especially, during or after treatment - and that's a factor in why some of us can't seem to get completely well? I haven't looked at other products known to contain fibers under microscopy yet to verify the existence of these mentioned colorful fibers, but, I suspect there must be other products? I think your arthritis could be related to Morgellons somehow, Roberta. What's unusal sounding to me is that, you have some sort of 'growth' that won't heal and is going to require surgery to remove it, characteristics of certain Morgellons lesions. When the surgeons remove this object, have them save it for visual and microscopic inspection to see if it resembles known Morgellons? And, I wouldn't use any wood pulp products as dressings, until we know more. Yes, I've heard about the Chinese silk worms and cotton worms here in the U.S., at one time - being visible in clothes from other people's postings. Like I stated earlier, the Morgellons pathogens that might be coming from our toilet paper could be in our bodies - and some other, outside factor comes along to kick it in to become evident? I personally believe there is some type of worm or nematode involved with certain Morgellons types. I'm sorry you're having such bad complications, Roberta, there's nothing fun about this disease! Let us keep on questing for answers in an attempt to be well again?
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Post by felixwillford on Feb 6, 2009 12:46:10 GMT -5
Hi Kammy, You do have your theory in the correct place, but just to let you know, for some reason, many people do not know where this part of the board is and NEVER read here. Instead, 99% of the traffic post on this one: lymebusters.proboards39.com/index.cgi?board=rashIt's the main morgellons general discussion board. They try very hard to keep theories here like you are doing. I posted a link so some would find this and read all your work. Very good and I agree with Roberta on what you are saying in so much of this. Would love to see the microscope photo's if you have any. Sincerely, Kmarie
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Post by kammy on Feb 6, 2009 13:09:32 GMT -5
Hi K -
I realize that I must not be getting the word out very well, due to the response. Please feel free to take this link and place it wherever or feel free to quote me, if needed. I believe I am very close in what's happened with Morgellons. Of course, I'm not going to end up being 100% accurate, but, I believe if I had some good help - we could solve this a lot quicker and easier.
I don't have a good digital camera/microscope yet, but what we need is to look at these black 'seeds/specks/pollen' grainules and see if they have the 'wing' that's known to be a part of pine pollen only? I will be purchasing a good camera/microscope shortly.
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Post by kammy on Feb 6, 2009 13:17:50 GMT -5
Part 7 of: Horizonital Inheritance with GM Trees and Toilet Paper Causing Morgellons Fibers and Disease
COMPARISON OF PINE POLLEN BIOLOGY AND MORGELLONS LESIONS I've heard some say, that whoever figures this out - 'is going to have to think outside the box'. I consider myself fairly traditional, however, I have a very open mind. I have never been politically active - period, with any cause, especially against any GM group nor like organizations. I have been purchasing my groceries at the regular grocery store, but drinking bottled water - just like most of us. For those of you who may not be aware of the Morgellons lesions in which the ears and scalp are emitting various and numerous particles, have a stem-like tube that cannot easily be removed. It has been described as like pulling a tooth to get it out, it is made up of a cartlidge-like material, that is somewhat elastic, it appears to have roots embedded down into the skin, and no amount of physical force with just the hands or fingers is going to get it to come out. I am concentrating solely on the ears at this time because, I haven't seen another body part in which these characteristics are happening. There is a very complex life cycle system happening in this process. It is very hard to describe. Possibly others of you who have had severe issues with your ears can leave us some descriptive posts? This funnel-like, stem, tube, growth - appears to be the source from which all of the black and white specks/seeds/pollen are coming from. It will be open at the top and these seeds will emit by the thousands. If you scratch this top layer of seeds away from the opening, they will return to the top within a short amount of time to replace what was just removed. From the inside, lesions will produce a 'goo' which will cover the entire tube, and surrounding area. This yellow 'goo', has been reported to me, because I cannot see it, by someone who was nursing my ears, to be stacked layers, staggered one upon each other, such as the way that scales appear on a fish. It becomes hardened as if a layer of armor is being placed on something for protection, and this 'goo' build-up cannot easily be removed. I have actually had my ear to split open, numerous times, and start emitting the thousands of seeds/pollen. It develops a 'natural' split, as if it has been surgically cut, and this split runs all the way down the length of the pinna portion of the ear. It does not bleed when this slit is open, nor does it bleed when I take my fingernail and try to remove the various debris particles, which I will describe in further detail later, that are being emitted. When I start reading about pine cones in this 'basic' article below, a couple of things 'hit' me: www.wnrmag.com/stories/1996/dec96/cones.htm"The hardened, dark brown cones are the females. These cones consist of a woody stalk surrounded by overlapping, stiff, shingle-like scales. Behind each scale is a bract, a small, flat modified leaf. Depending on the tree species, the bract may be hidden within the cone or extend well beyond each scale, like the western Douglas fir cones. When the tree is ready to be pollinated, it secretes a small amount of fluid that collects in the narrow crevices between the scales. At the same time, the mature male pine cone releases a heavy dusting of yellow pollen." This definition at Wikipedia, when searching on "pollen tube" - further gives me reason to draw a better informed conclusion: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollen"When placed on the stigma of a flowering plant, under favorable circumstances, a pollen grain puts forth a pollen tube which grows down the tissue of the style to the ovary, and makes its way along the placenta, guided by projections or hairs, to the micropyle of an ovule. The nucleus of the tube cell has meanwhile passed into the tube, as does also the generative nucleus which divides (if it hasn't already) to form two sperm cells. The sperm cells are carried to their destination in the tip of the pollen-tube." There are too many coincidences happening here between pollen, the pollen tube, and Morgellons lesions to ignore. There are too many things happening that are similiar, once again remember that possible, "Horizonital Inheritance or Gene Transfer" is involved in this process, and what is happening with the Morgellons legions and the natural biological entity - may not be the exact characteristics of this form, as what was written in the textbooks. This correlation needs to be looked at more closely by a plant biologist who has "Type 1 or is a Primary Carrier" or is very familiar with Morgellons, to draw a better conclusion. The key words between my description of the 'housing lesions' and the quoted definitions on pollen above are: pollen, tube, pollen tube, "grows down the tissue", hairs, "return to the top", scales, and yellow. I also read where they 'split open' to release these pollen. Since the pollen under our skin is in a proliferating state most of the time, let us seriously question that our lesions' 'housings', circular and tube-like - are possibly very similiar or what is known in plant biology as a "pollen tube"?
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Post by gradysghostii on Feb 6, 2009 13:54:28 GMT -5
Maybe the goo is tree sap, we're freakin turning into plants. Kammy, very good post, this could be how Morgellons has spread so quickly world wide, however, more so in western societies even. Good work.
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Post by felixwillford on Feb 6, 2009 14:13:13 GMT -5
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Post by lilsissy on Feb 6, 2009 14:14:37 GMT -5
Good research ,
will read up on this. kammy, thank you jen
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