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Post by chaosonline on Feb 18, 2009 19:53:55 GMT -5
This lyme doctors blog mentions something quite curious: "Clongen labs has identified an organism frequently found in the blood stream of patients afflicted with tick borne illness. It looks like a small bacteria but no DNA match can be found. Research into the nature of this organism is still ongoing. " Here is the entire blog: lymemd.blogspot.com/2009/02/lme-disease-coinfections-and-its.htmlKaren
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Post by chaosonline on Feb 18, 2009 20:08:08 GMT -5
The discussion on this mystery bacteria continues. Here are a few excerpts: "Recently I sent a blood sample to Clongen for a wet mount. His blood, like that of so many other Lyme patients, has numerous, highly motile, extracellular organisms. Clongen's attempts to sequence the "bacteria" have failed. It does not amplify with any of the known universal primers for bacteria used in PCR assays. Attempts to culture it in various media have also failed. Perhaps it is not a bacteria, but a tiny parasite of some kind. Clongen plans to test for this possibility as well. The mystery of the motile organisms for now, remains unsolved. There is no evidence that it is any known bacteria including a relative of Bartonella or a relative of Pseudomonas. It is not killed with a plethora of antibiotics and anti parasite drugs." Someone responds: "Wondering if Clongen has investigated the possibility that the mystery bug could be nanobacteria? Hubby tested positive for that 2 or 3 times about 5 years ago. Very few antibiotics have any effect on nanobacteria because of the biofilm and the calcification involved." Full article: lymemd.blogspot.com/2009/02/lyme-dementia-namenda-ms-bug-and.html______________________________________________ Karen
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Post by felixwillford on Feb 18, 2009 20:10:43 GMT -5
Karen,
That is now bookmarked! Great information and I enjoyed the comments/opinions at the end.
Thank you
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Post by gradysghostii on Feb 18, 2009 22:46:32 GMT -5
Perhaps this "unknown" is Morgellons itself, the monster within ...
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Post by fritolay66 on Feb 19, 2009 0:26:42 GMT -5
This is positively awesome!!! There was a time when they only knew of two species of Bartonella and now there are fourteen and 212 variants. They found something new, and they acknowledged it. This is progress and they are going to pursue it!! Lyme and company are major players in this, IMHO. Ya know you guys, I ran across something today in which I knew existed, but never could find anything in specific. Lyme and co's can always be found, but I just knew there were other organisms commonly associated with Lyme and I happened upon two today. • Proteus mirabilis – another pathogen always found in Lyme. • Gnathastoma spinigerum – another pathogen always found in Lyme I have been working, so I haven't had a chance to look at these, but it can't be the only two out there hardly ever mentioned. This link is about rife frequencies, but is where I found the reference to these two organisms. tinyurl.com/bp4hnsThank you Karen!! Frito
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Post by bannanny on Feb 19, 2009 1:06:21 GMT -5
That's too cool... thanks Karen! Clongen has always been interested in Morgellons too.
I of course had the same thought enter my mind Grady.
hugs ~~ bannanny
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Post by felixwillford on Feb 19, 2009 1:54:56 GMT -5
Gnathastoma spinigerum
From what I know this is a parasite!
I'll research more tomorrow on it. Good Find Frito.
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Post by fritolay66 on Feb 19, 2009 9:30:14 GMT -5
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Post by violet on Feb 19, 2009 17:37:19 GMT -5
Toni, I wonder if these organisms are the same that we saw in your slide posting--the little white things wiggling around your sample?
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