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Post by bessie on Jun 23, 2009 16:18:20 GMT -5
June 23, 2009 | 7 comments Weed-Whacking Herbicide Proves Deadly to Human Cells Used in gardens, farms, and parks around the world, the weed killer Roundup contains an ingredient that can suffocate human cells in a laboratory, researchers say By Crystal Gammon and Environmental Health News WEED KILLER: New research has found that an 'inert' ingredient in the herbicide Roundup can kill human embryonic, placental, and umbilical cord cells Used in yards, farms and parks throughout the world, Roundup has long been a top-selling weed killer. But now researchers have found that one of Roundup’s inert ingredients can kill human cells, particularly embryonic, placental and umbilical cord cells. The new findings intensify a debate about so-called “inerts” — the solvents, preservatives, surfactants and other substances that manufacturers add to pesticides. Nearly 4,000 inert ingredients are approved for use by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. Glyphosate, Roundup’s active ingredient, is the most widely used herbicide in the United States. About 100 million pounds are applied to U.S. farms and lawns every year, according to the EPA. Until now, most health studies have focused on the safety of glyphosate, rather than the mixture of ingredients found in Roundup. But in the new study, scientists found that Roundup’s inert ingredients amplified the toxic effect on human cells—even at concentrations much more diluted than those used on farms and lawns. One specific inert ingredient, polyethoxylated tallowamine, or POEA, was more deadly to human embryonic, placental and umbilical cord cells than the herbicide itself – a finding the researchers call “astonishing.” “This clearly confirms that the [inert ingredients] in Roundup formulations are not inert,” wrote the study authors from France’s University of Caen. “Moreover, the proprietary mixtures available on the market could cause cell damage and even death [at the] residual levels” found on Roundup-treated crops, such as soybeans, alfalfa and corn, or lawns and gardens. The research team suspects that Roundup might cause pregnancy problems by interfering with hormone production, possibly leading to abnormal fetal development, low birth weights or miscarriages. Monsanto, Roundup’s manufacturer, contends that the methods used in the study don’t reflect realistic conditions and that their product, which has been sold since the 1970s, is safe when used as directed. Hundreds of studies over the past 35 years have addressed the safety of glyphosate. “Roundup has one of the most extensive human health safety and environmental data packages of any pesticide that's out there,” said Monsanto spokesman John Combest. “It's used in public parks, it's used to protect schools. There's been a great deal of study on Roundup, and we're very proud of its performance.” The EPA considers glyphosate to have low toxicity when used at the recommended doses. “Risk estimates for glyphosate were well below the level of concern,” said EPA spokesman Dale Kemery. The EPA classifies glyphosate as a Group E chemical, which means there is strong evidence that it does not cause cancer in humans. In addition, the EPA and the U.S. Department of Agriculture both recognize POEA as an inert ingredient. Derived from animal fat, POEA is allowed in products certified organic by the USDA. The EPA has concluded that it is not dangerous to public health or the environment. The French team, led by Gilles-Eric Seralini, a University of Caen molecular biologist, said its results highlight the need for health agencies to reconsider the safety of Roundup. “The authorizations for using these Roundup herbicides must now clearly be revised since their toxic effects depend on, and are multiplied by, other compounds used in the mixtures,” Seralini’s team wrote. Controversy about the safety of the weed killer recently erupted in Argentina, one of the world’s largest exporters of soy. www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=weed-whacking-herbicide-p&sc=CAT_HLTH_20090623Bessie
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Post by kiki on Jun 23, 2009 17:43:30 GMT -5
I probably should be dead from all the chemicals I was exposed to as a kid. We snuck into maintenance barn (barrels and shelves full of stuff for golf course) all the time and worse the reason we did is there was always treats. The guys always had donuts, cookies,etc. We didnt wash our hands so who knows what we ingested. And at night we dug in sandtraps and tumbled on greens till we got caught--we allllways got caught. But we were very healthy kids.
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Post by kammy on Jun 23, 2009 20:35:22 GMT -5
I worked on a golf course for 14 years, I was around Round Up all the time.
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Post by bessie on Jun 23, 2009 21:29:05 GMT -5
I played golf almost 30 years, was a member at clubs various times so I played 4-5 times a week during certain periods. I never thought about a possible connection with that as far as developing Morgellons, though I did think about the pro golfers when I was watching the U.S. Open this weekend.
Bessie
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Post by ctbarb on Jun 23, 2009 21:53:29 GMT -5
Since Roundup has been in existence since 1970, why has it taken this country's "leading minds" 40 years to find out WHY and HOW Roundup was contaminating our food, water, environment, and us??? Aren't there any chemists who looked at the list of ingredients, both active and inert to see the possibility of a combination that would be toxic? What are they being paid to do??? Look the other way??? This is just disgusting! People are dying, infected with God knows what, and they had to have KNOWN exactly what they were doing and laughing themselves all the way to the bank! No wonder they think they are so superior to us all....and can do anything they wish....no one would come up against them - or wouldn't look closely enough to determine what the chemical composition possibilities were! I don't buy it! They did it and knew exactly what they were doing...they can't claim stupidity now... My next question is: Have the chemists of the world checked the rest of the ingredients to see if there are any other LETHAL combinations that we need to know about??? People are dying, children are deformed, disabled etc., and they are watching and letting it happen! This is criminal - pure and simple - AND - considered premeditation...in every sense of the word. Their chemists are NOT stupid people, they will tell you that... We are duped - again! ctbarb
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Post by believer on Jun 24, 2009 6:46:29 GMT -5
CTBarb, You are exactly right on all points! A line I remember from the Dark Knight movie comes to mind..There are some people who just want to see the world burn. The powers that be are beyond evil,beyond criminal. They're just like the gangsters that run the banking industry, corrupt evil greedy B*****ds. When the NWO and elites say they want to reduce the earth population by 2 thirds,they aren't joking.They've been planning this for decades. And just which company is the leading supplier of GMO foods and additives? ?? Answer: Monsatano
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Post by jj on Jun 24, 2009 11:26:51 GMT -5
" Safe when used as directed ?" Wheezle words in an attempt to point blame on the consumer for misuse of their product. There are more in-depth safety precautions on everyday household products than there are on any of Monsanto's. What I would like to see is a study comparing the rise of asthma, Autism, ADD, ADHD and all behavioral and learning disabilities in children. Would be enlightening to include adult syndromes in the same vein as well as Alzheimer's. The 1970's till present should be included in that time line. Proving (finding footprints) what chemicals like this have done to humans and their environment will be difficult but it should be done. When schools stop using their products they will see a marked improvement in their student bodies learning abilities, health and wellbeing on site. Too much PRIDE gets in the way of rational healthy decisions not to mention the $$$$ that makes ones pride shine. IMHO (as usual) it is plausible that what this research team suspects is only touching on how devastating these chemicals really are to us and our offspring. Something has to STOP the progression on this monopoly and it's devastating effects on our health, environment, health care, economy and what society has become because of it. JJ
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Post by kiki on Jun 24, 2009 13:25:53 GMT -5
Help me make sense of this b/c my mind cannot figure it out.
If they "didnt know" the dangers, they are admitting stupidity. But if they knew, what made them think they could protect themselves from the risks?? Money can buy off people but it wont shield them from the effects of toxic chemicals. Unless of course it buys them immunity. Wonder what the health of the employees who had a hand in this is like??? Is there immunity to be bought???
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Post by ctbarb on Jun 24, 2009 13:59:45 GMT -5
Kiki, Monsanto's molecular chemists are not stupid people...they knew EXACTLY what they were doing IMO! They had to have known that the chemical properties and combinations thereof, would cause such a reaction. That was the whole purpose of finding an "inert" ingredient in the first place! Used alone it didn't have the properties to do harm. BUT, used in combination to cause chemical properties to change and become toxic IS! That's basic chemistry. I just bet (IMO) they spent more time on finding an "inert" ingredient to change the chemical properties than they did on labeling the Roundup product!
Like I said before, they cannot claim stupidity...they are the first to tell you how intelligent they are and how woefully inadequate everyone else is! Pride cometh before a fall...rings true?
What also bothers me in all of this, is the fact that no one was a watch dog on this project. There had to be chemists that looked at the ingredients, are they all so stupid as to not see the combinations of ingredients and check the property capabilities of each and in combination? Something smells, and smells bad!
What I also am very concerned about is whether Roundup Ready used in the GMO seeds has this same "inert" ingredient combination? Will have to check on that one. I just bet it does!
Hugs,
ctbarb
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Post by bannanny on Jun 24, 2009 21:58:28 GMT -5
There's probably A L O T of things we use daily out there with some lethal "inert" ingredients in them. The ingredients that are never listed on the packaging for us to even know what they are. The way things are today I wouldn't be surprised one tiny bit. When we bought this land and started planting trees and rosemary all over the place here, we used alot of round-up.
hugs ~~ bannanny
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Post by rhorn2006 on Jun 27, 2009 9:53:13 GMT -5
Hearing this is better new's than you might think,, for us anyway... We all know, there is a "pretty good chance" that Monsanto has played a role in creating the morgellons monster with all there GMO crap, or helped in it's spread anyway.. But, being the multi-billion dollar corporation they are, they "seemed" to have enough friends in government "in there pockets" that would help them keep this under wraps, and them out of trouble! Apparently, with this kind of news being published, Monsanto is not as well covered as "we or they" once thought they were! Even when "paid-off" government officials are running rough-shot for big companies like Monsanto, should a "stink like this one" actually make it into the public,, the government will back out completely so there is no chance of them being connected, and leave them unprotected until way after the water clears!! Trust me, I know how this kind of thing works
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Post by kiki on Jun 27, 2009 18:39:41 GMT -5
Rhorn you are so right. The part I dont get is how did the chemists think they could keep themselves safe from any risks. At work sure but Round Up was used everywhere. And how did they think they could explain it when the public became aware of risks? Honestly if we knew everything we're exposed to we would dress like an astronaut and live in a sterile bubble.
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Post by rhorn2006 on Jun 27, 2009 23:48:32 GMT -5
Rhorn you are so right. The part I dont get is how did the chemists think they could keep themselves safe from any risks. At work sure but Round Up was used everywhere. And how did they think they could explain it when the public became aware of risks? Honestly if we knew everything we're exposed to we would dress like an astronaut and live in a sterile bubble. How did the chemists think they could keep themselves safe from any risks? The Monsanto corporation has deep pockets for crooked government officials to dig in,, get there share and look the other way.. They also try to make it hard on anyone attempting to expose anything, because it threatens to end there "under-the-table" income,, but if they mess up and dont head it off before it gets out, they back out of them deep pockets "really fast" before someone catches them in there!!!
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Post by bessie on Jun 28, 2009 9:04:14 GMT -5
They certainly are brazen. Yesterday I saw a Monsanto ad on TV for Roundup, how it is "hard on weeds, easy on your hands". One would think it'd be pulled from the market, nevermind advertise how safe it is. Really makes you wonder what is going on.
Bessie
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Post by kiki on Jun 28, 2009 13:10:11 GMT -5
Kiki, Monsanto's molecular chemists are not stupid people...they knew EXACTLY what they were doing IMO! They had to have known that the chemical properties and combinations thereof, would cause such a reaction. That was the whole purpose of finding an "inert" ingredient in the first place! Used alone it didn't have the properties to do harm. BUT, used in combination to cause chemical properties to change and become toxic IS! That's basic chemistry. I just bet (IMO) they spent more time on finding an "inert" ingredient to change the chemical properties than they did on labeling the Roundup product! Like I said before, they cannot claim stupidity...they are the first to tell you how intelligent they are and how woefully inadequate everyone else is! Pride cometh before a fall...rings true? What also bothers me in all of this, is the fact that no one was a watch dog on this project. There had to be chemists that looked at the ingredients, are they all so stupid as to not see the combinations of ingredients and check the property capabilities of each and in combination? Something smells, and smells bad! What I also am very concerned about is whether Roundup Ready used in the GMO seeds has this same "inert" ingredient combination? Will have to check on that one. I just bet it does! Hugs, ctbarb DUH... was lookin at the tree-- missed the forest! Shoulda had a V-8
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Post by kiki on Jun 28, 2009 13:55:02 GMT -5
Rhorn you are so right. The part I dont get is how did the chemists think they could keep themselves safe from any risks. At work sure but Round Up was used everywhere. And how did they think they could explain it when the public became aware of risks? Honestly if we knew everything we're exposed to we would dress like an astronaut and live in a sterile bubble. How did the chemists think they could keep themselves safe from any risks? The Monsanto corporation has deep pockets for crooked government officials to dig in,, get there share and look the other way.. They also try to make it hard on anyone attempting to expose anything, because it threatens to end there "under-the-table" income,, but if they mess up and dont head it off before it gets out, they back out of them deep pockets "really fast" before someone catches them in there!!! Yeah I get that part. What doesnt make sense to me is they knew the risks and knew it would be used in public places. And as Bessie said, are still peddling the poison. Were/are they not concerned about their own families? School playgrounds, parks, camps, golf courses and even neighbors yards? And speaking of neighbors, if your neighbor worked for a co that sold the most popular weed killer-- that was promoted as perfectly safe, yet didnt use it on his own yard wouldnt that strike you as a bit odd? They had to know they couldnt avoid exposure, right? Sure theyre greedy but as Ctbarb said, not stupid, so they certainly know that a big bank acct isnt gonna make them immune to it. I just dont get it.
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Post by ed on Jun 28, 2009 15:19:26 GMT -5
ah............. been preaching, along with Lesser is Better John, about Round-up/glyphosate since 1997. For years it has been linked to non- Hodgkins lymphoma, nerverous system disorders and hormone disruption. Also is one of reasons third grade girls wear 34-Bs. Glyphosate, lindane and other organophosphates are also partly responsibile for the fattenning of America IMO... Ed
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Post by Jill on Jun 28, 2009 16:26:06 GMT -5
You should preach more often, Ed. Important info- and John LIB had good ideas to share as well....
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Post by ed on Jun 28, 2009 20:17:18 GMT -5
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