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Post by Jill on Jun 25, 2009 19:38:29 GMT -5
river.convio.net/site/MessageViewer?em_id=1561.0New Leak Containing Tritium Found at Indian Point Fair use Excerpt: On Sunday February 15, 2009, a worker at Indian Point, who inadvertently found himself standing in a puddle of water, discovered a pipe leaking several feet underground. The pipe had been leaking water contaminated with detectible levels of tritium at a rate of approximately 18 gallons per minute for more than five days. As a result, more than 100,000 gallons of contaminated water where discharged from the plant into the Hudson River. Indian Point's ability to prevent, or even detect, such apparent and destructive plant deterioration, is a key concern Riverkeeper has raised in the license renewal proceeding relating to the plant’s aging infrastructure. end What is Tritium? Tritium - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Tritium is a radioactive isotope of hydrogen. The nucleus of tritium contains one proton and two neutrons, whereas the nucleus of protium contains one proton and no neutrons. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tritium-
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Post by bannanny on Jun 25, 2009 21:27:03 GMT -5
Wonder how long it's gonna be before we start to glow!
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Post by believer on Jun 26, 2009 0:19:15 GMT -5
Yep,windmills and solar technology don't make the big corps enough money,its gotta be big and complicated to justify the bills that get sent out. yes, Very sad technology has to kill us.Do they never think of the risk to their children and relatives, or are :they: all heartless B******s? ??
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Post by Jill on Jun 26, 2009 6:59:23 GMT -5
Bannanny- I think our little fibers may already be 'glowing' ? Kmarie- agree- it does keep happening over and over - A relative works at a company in my area- Chemical Co- said you could not imagine what they dump in the river that is adjacent to the plant. Guess I don't want to know. The various Zoning departments look the other way- these corporations add $$$ to the tax base so they get a pass on the pollution. Believer, It's always about the money, isn't it? Citizens getting screwed over in favor of the Corporations to include Utilities (especially Utilities?). Windmills and Solar tech would help. Thing is that the Building and Zoning departments will not allow it. In my area, you would never get by with a permit for a Windmill. Maybe I can do something to change that? Get involved locally in changing policy? Looking at the Indian Point area- per the above - turns out there is a Nuclear Power Plant nearby. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Point_Energy_CenterFair use Excerpts: Indian Point Energy Center (IPEC) is a three-unit nuclear power plant station located in Buchanan, New York just south of Peekskill. It sits on the east bank of the Hudson River, 24 miles north of New York City, New York. The plant is owned and operated by Entergy Nuclear Northeast, a subsidiary of Entergy Corporation and includes two operating Westinghouse pressurized water reactors - Indian Point 2 and Indian Point 3. It also contains the permanently shut down Indian Point Unit 1 reactor.[1] Total employment at the site is 1,683. [2] Excerpt: Public health concerns about the plant have been raised by activists, specifically in terms of radioactive contamination. On February 15, 2000, the Indian Point II power plant vented a small amount of radioactive steam when an aging steam generator ruptured. The NRC initially reported that no radioactive material was released, but later changed their report to say that there was a leak, but not of a sufficient amount to threaten public safety.[15][16] end excerpt Excerpt: On June 5, 1970, Unit 1 had a major plumbing problem which required the use of 700 men (for a few minutes each) over a 7 month period to weld in the radioactive area.[citation needed] On March 8, 1972, pressures in the primary cooling circuit increased by 30%. Water had to be pumped out of unit 1 into the Hudson River, subsequently killing 150,000 fish.[citation needed] end excerpt The Hudson River- I recall reading that Derek Lovley 'discovered' Geobacter in the Potomac. Wonder if that was being used for Radiation Remediation? Also, does the Hudson feed into the Potomac? Geobacter eats metal, if I'm remembering correctly? www.rapidmicrobiology.com/news/0312140.php?s=oneidensisExcerpt: The authors conclude that Geobacter 'clearly has potential for bioremediation of radioactive metals and electricity generation.' end Excerpt: TIGR's collaborator on the project was Derek Lovley, a professor of microbiology at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst, who discovered the Geobacter family of bacteria and has led projects to assess their biology and their potential for bioremediation. The first Geobacter species to be discovered, G. metallireducens, was isolated from Potomac River sediments in 1987. G. sulfurreducens was isolated later from a soil sample in Oklahoma that was contaminated by hydrocarbons.end excerpt
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Post by Jill on Jun 26, 2009 9:49:35 GMT -5
The Geobacter that was discovered in the Potomac River. (Seems they have been using Geobacter for some time to negate the effects or neutralize the Radioactive particles in the rivers) www.mykesweblog.com/science/page/2/ According to Space.com, what Rittmann proposes to do is to harness bacteria -- specifically, a member of the Geobacteraceae family that feeds on, and can decompose, organic material. Geobacter microbes were first discovered in the muck of the Potomac River in 1987; they like to live in places where there's no oxygen and plenty of iron. They also have the unexpected ability to move electrons into metal. That means that under the right conditions, Geobacter microbes can both process waste and generate electricity. *** Let's say, for sake of argument, that there are PCB's in the Hudson and the Potomac rivers along with the Radioactive Isotopes and the Geobacter....
The PCB's (plastic-like) may flake- or become fiber-like when exposed to Radioactive substances? Or maybe it's the metal eating/electric inducing Geobacter that causes the PCB to become airborn? [/color][/size] [/b] www.foxriverwatch.com/dermal_skin_pcb_pcbs_1f.html Skin Absorption and Damage from PCBs
Back to Skin Absorption and Damage from PCBs Table of Contents
Other PCB Contamination Sites with Skin Contact Health Risks
The following 31 studies involve PCB contamination sites around the U.S. where skin contact is considered a potential human health risk.Hudson River, New York Anonymous. Health Assessment for Hudson River PCB (Polychlorinated Biphenyl) NPL (National Priorities List) Site, State of New York, Region 2. CERCLIS No. NYD980763841. Govt Reports Announcements & Index (GRA&I), Issue 06, 1990. Final report. Author Address: Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry, Atlanta, GA. * dermal contact with PCB-contaminated sediment is a potential concern to human health. Hudson River PCB (polychlorinated biphenyls) is a National Priorities List site located in the State of New York. Because of the past disposal of PCBs in the Hudson River, surface water, sediment, and fish from the Upper and Lower Hudson River are contaminated with elevated concentrations of PCBs. The site is of potential public health concern because of the risk to human health resulting from possible exposure to hazardous substances at concentrations that may result in adverse health effects. Human exposure to PCB-contaminated fish or other consumable aquatic organisms from the Hudson River may occur and/or may be occurring via oral exposure (ingestion). Possible inhalation of volatilized PCBs, airborne PCB-contaminated dusts, as well as dermal contact with PCB-contaminated sediment are also of potential concern to human health. New Bedford, Massachusetts Anonymous. Public Health Assessment for New Bedford Site, New Bedford, Bristol County, Massachusetts, Region 1. CERCLIS No. MAD980731335. Govt Reports Announcements & Index (GRA&I), Issue 15, 1995 Author Address: Massachusetts Dept. of Public Health, Boston. Div. of Environmental Health Assessment. Final rept. Sponsored by Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry, Atlanta, GA. * human health is at risk due to ongoing exposure to PCBs via dermal contact with PCB-contaminated sediments New Bedford Harbor drains the Acushnet River into Buzzards Bay in southeastern Massachusetts. Extensive polychlorinated biphenyl (PCB) and heavy metal contamination have been detected in the estuary that drains the river, a portion of which is exposed as a mudflat at low tide. This contamination has also been detected in sediment sampled from the remainder of the harbor. Based on the information reviewed, ATSDR has concluded that this site is of public health hazard because of the risk to human health resulting from ongoing exposure to PCBs via ingestion of contaminated fish within harbor waters and dermal contact with PCB-contaminated sediments. New Bedford, Massachusetts Anonymous. Public Health Assessment for Sullivan's Ledge, New Bedford, Bristol County, Massachusetts, Region 1. CERCLIS No. MAD980731343. Amended, April 10, 1989; Addendum, May 16, 1994. Govt Reports Announcements & Index (GRA&I), Issue 18, 1994. Author Address: Massachusetts Dept. of Public Health, Boston. Div. of Environmental Health Assessment. * dermal exposure to PCBs were a potential human health risk The Sullivan's Ledge site is located in New Bedford, Massachusetts and was previously a granite quarry utilized as an industrial landfill from around 1940 until the 1970's. This addendum focuses on the second operable unit of the Sullivan's Ledge Site, namely, the Middle Marsh Study Area located on Hathway Road across the street from the granite quarries. The primary contaminant detected on-site was the polychlorinated biphenyl (PCB), Aroclor 1254, in the sediment/soil, pore water, surface water, and biota. PCB concentrations were generally less than 30 parts per million (ppm) with the highest concentrations detected in the top six inches of sediment/soil. Exposure pathways of potential concern are: (1) ingestion of sediment/soil or surface water; (2) dermal absorption due to contact with sediment/soil or surface water; and (3) inhalation of fugitive dusts. Although individuals have contacted and continue to contact the sediment/soil and surface water at the golf course, Middle Marsh, and unnamed Tidewater region of Virginia Adams MR, Hanna CA, Mayernik JA, Mendez WM Jr. Probabilistic health risk assessment for exposures to estuary sediments and biota contaminated with polychlorinated biphenyls, polychlorinated terphenyls and other toxic substances. Risk Anal; VOL 14, ISS 4, 1994, P577-94. Author Address: Ebasco Environmental, Arlington, Virginia 22201. * dermal exposure to PCBs is a potential human health risk A Latin Hypercube probabilistic risk assessment methodology was employed in the assessment of health risks associated with exposures to contaminated sediment and biota in an estuary in the Tidewater region of Virginia. The primary contaminants were polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs), polychlorinated terphenyls (PCTs), polynuclear aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs), and metals released into the estuary from a storm sewer system. The exposure pathways associated with the highest contaminant intake and risks were dermal contact with contaminated sediment and ingestion of contaminated aquatic and terrestrial biota from the contaminated area. As expected, all of the output probability distributions of risk were highly skewed, and the ratios of the expected value (mean) to median risk estimates ranged from 1.4 to 14.8 for the various exposed populations. The 99th percentile risk estimates were as much as two orders of magnitude above the mean risk estimates. For the sediment exposure pathways, the stability of the Harris County, Texas Anonymous. Health Assessment for Industrial Transformer NPL (National Priorities List) Site, Houston, Harris County, Texas, Region 6. Govt Reports Announcements & Index (GRA&I), Issue 02, 1990 Author Address: Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry, Atlanta, GA. * potential adverse health effects may result from exposure via dermal contact to PCB-contaminated surface soil
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Post by jeff on Jun 26, 2009 10:12:29 GMT -5
You cant make enough frikkin windwills and solar to replace the power of nuclear. Windmills require plastics which a manufactured from oil. France has already figured this out 60 % off all their power comes from nuclear. Cutting drastically the need for oil and resulting in reduction of green house gases. You wanna drive to the store for groceries you want the fridge to keep your food cold so you can eat. You want too keep the food on the table that requires diesel powered farm eqipment and jet fuel powered airplanes or diesel powered semi's. But you dont want environmental damage. Guess what their is no such thing. Try powering a semi with a windmill or a solar panel. Reality check it is not and is never gonna happen. Yes some may die someday from radiation accident. But it for the greater good. Because more will die from hauling 200,000 lb windmill parts around on your local highways. And mining the oil required to build them. and species of birds will be wiped off the planet from being chopped up into little pieces from flying into the windmill farms. ( it already happening in oregon google it) You people are cutting your own thoughts. Its no wonder nobody has any jobs. when everybody shuts our own domestically produced power plants. Go back to the stone ages cause wind power aint gonna save you.
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Post by Jill on Jun 26, 2009 10:24:38 GMT -5
I think that Civilization got along just fine- before the Nuclear Power Plants.
What needs to be done is that we need to go back to a simpler way of life. Too much consumption on every level.
As to Windmills being made out of Plastic ? The Wooden variety is still available...
The suggestion that people need to suffer for the Greater Good is repulsive. One life lost is one too many.
The only people I have ever read about- that speak about the Greater Good- were those that were making money off the common folk- and the Greater Good went to the select few.
Some things never change.
It's laughable- learning where the Fibers come from and then defending the source....
This is Nationwide and I'm sure World-wide as well- read the 31 case studies.
This condition leads to CANCER
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Post by Jill on Jun 26, 2009 10:35:01 GMT -5
You cant make enough frikkin windwills and solar to replace the power of nuclear. Windmills require plastics which a manufactured from oil. France has already figured this out 60 % off all their power comes from nuclear. Cutting drastically the need for oil and resulting in reduction of green house gases. You wanna drive to the store for groceries you want the fridge to keep your food cold so you can eat. You want too keep the food on the table that requires diesel powered farm eqipment and jet fuel powered airplanes or diesel powered semi's. But you dont want environmental damage. Guess what their is no such thing. Try powering a semi with a windmill or a solar panel. Reality check it is not and is never gonna happen. Yes some may die someday from radiation accident. But it for the greater good. Because more will die from hauling 200,000 lb windmill parts around on your local highways. And mining the oil required to build them. and species of birds will be wiped off the planet from being chopped up into little pieces from flying into the windmill farms. ( it already happening in oregon google it) You people are cutting your own thoughts. Its no wonder nobody has any jobs. when everybody shuts our own domestically produced power plants. Go back to the stone ages cause wind power aint gonna save you. FOR THE GREATER GOOD www.foxriverwatch.com/dermal_skin_pcb_pcbs_1.html * Introduction * What is Chloracne? * Summary of Studies Showing Skin Absorption * Evidence that PCBs are Absorbed Through the Skin * Summary of Skin Damage Study Results * Skin Damage Caused by PCBs * Other PCB Contamination Sites With Skin Contact Risks * Links to More Information * References
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Post by overandover on Jun 26, 2009 10:54:46 GMT -5
JILL I'M SCREAMING AMEN GIRL, AMEN AND LORD HELP US TOO. We have to return to A SIMPLE WAY OF LIFE in order to save our planet for our babies, all of us with Morgellons know the horror and truth of it all. It's not just us, Tom comes home daily telling me about the stories of folks with cancer, he's not had ONE customer that has not been touched by cancer, the children, my dear LORD so many children. We did it with all our high tech. crap, we let this happen. Think of when we were all kids, yep now and then we heard of someone with cancer, but not everyday. Josh was 17 when he first got brain cancer, with in a three mile radius of our home 15 children had come down with brain cancer with in a few years time. They never found out why? Bull chit, it was no coincidence. I think it was Morgellons, always will until I get proof it was something else. OK my rant. We have to put a holt to the madness, somehow, someway. We just lost 9 folks on the Metro Train here, Because a circuit malfunctioned. They better remember that when Bin Ladin is hiding his sissy a$$ up in the Mountains, he always has his lap top with him. If they can find a way, and they will !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We will be taken down when they mess with our computer system, we have each and every part of living life on them. We better put the brakes on all technology for a minute. We better let our live stock out of those torture chambers they are forced to grow in just to become sick from stress, then fed to humans. We better find out why our BEE'S are dying and fast. My thoughts are Morgellons there too. We better fix the harm all this chit they have sprayed on our soil so that we can start growing our food. Organic my a@@, there is no such thing with the BT seeds. Monsanto needs to just GO TO HELL in a non fire proof basket. And all this medical technology is killing us. A few causes of cancer, lets see. Radiation Toxic Chemicals now they say Fungus. And what do we turn around and treat cancer with, lets see. Radiation Toxic Chemicals and yes my Oncologist tells me they are now using Fungus to treat some cancers. It just sickens me. We had to have so much more, be so greedy, look for the easy answers. when God gave us such a beautiful world to begin with, in just 7 days he gave us all we could ever need. And we did this.
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Post by Jill on Jun 26, 2009 13:05:50 GMT -5
Hi Sue, I'm angry as well. We've been had. Lied to, big time. Our childrens' lives have been altered or destroyed. We have all been damaged. Only the Lord can help us now. So sad to read that your husband is seeing all the families with cancer. It's all too common where I live as well. Could be the proximity to a body of water? I live about 20 miles south of Lake Erie. Likely the winds blow the stuff all over. Northeast of me- is the Perry Nuclear Power Plant, which is near the lake. To the Northwest, is the Davis-Besse Nuclear Power Plant- Oak Harbor, Ohio. Also on the shores of Lake Erie. So we have one on either side of the Lake. (my friends' sister in law just died recently- she lived in Oak Harbor. Died suddenly- cancer. I don't think she was even 50) A quick Google finds that Lung Cancer rates are high in Toledo, Ohio (site of the Nuclear Power Plant). No surprise. www.mesothelioma-lung-cancer.org/news/mesothelioma-news-0137.htmFunny- the link above attributes the high cancer rate to smoking....and Radon. As to Perry, Ohio- the location of the other Nuclear Plant: (1999 article) www.sierraclub.org/sierra/199909/cancer.aspFair use Excerpt: It's no mystery why prevention gets the silent treatment. The primary sponsor of Breast Cancer Awareness Month, AstraZeneca (formerly known as Zeneca), is a British-based multinational giant that manufactures the cancer drug tamoxifen as well as fungicides and herbicides, including the carcinogen acetochlor. Its Perry, Ohio, chemical plant is the third-largest source of potential cancer-causing pollution in the United States, releasing 53,000 pounds of recognized carcinogens into the air in 1996.
end excerpt Still no mention of PCB's. Reading the history of PCB's has me really steaming: www.foxriverwatch.com/monsanto2a_pcb_pcbs.html1933 --- Problems soon arose at the manufacturing plant. 23 out of 24 workers in the plant had acne-like pustules on their faces and bodies. Some complained of loss of energy, appetite and libido as well as other skin ailments. These symptoms are now known as classic first signs of PCB exposure. [6]1935 --- Swann was purchased in 1935 by the Monsanto Industrial Chemical Company of St. Louis, Missouri. Monsanto produced PCBs at plants in Sauget, Illinois and Anniston, Alabama (until 1977.) [5] Monsanto then licensed others to make PCBs and the product took off. PCB's have been produced in other countries including Italy (Caffaro), France (Protolec), Japan (Kanegafuchi Chemical Co.), Germany (Bayer), and they may still be produced in Russia. [7] As electricity came into widespread use during the first half of this century, equipment suppliers like GE and Westinghouse became major users of PCBs. One Monsanto engineer allegedly called it "as perfect as any industrial chemical can be." [8] 1936 --- A senior official with the U.S. Public Health Service described a wife and child, both of whom had developed chloracne, a combination of blackheads and "pustules," merely from contact with a worker’s clothes. The same official wrote, "In addition to these skin lesions, symptoms of systemic poisoning have occurred among workers inhaling these fumes."[9]
Fast forward to 1970: 1969-1970 --- Paper company discharges of PCBs into the Fox River peaked.
1970 --- Annual U.S. production peaked this year, with 85 million pounds of PCBs produced. 1970 --- Monsanto physician Emmett Kelly revealed to W. B. Papageorge that tons of cattle feed from several Ohio silos had been contaminated by leaching and flaking paint based on the company’s Aroclor 1254 PCB-oil. As a result, milk from three herds was tainted. Kelly estimated up to 50 other silos in the state were painted similarly. "All in all, this could be quite a serious problem, having legal and publicity overtones," the Monsanto doctor warned. "This brings us to a very serious point. When are we going to tell our customers not to use any Aroclor in any paint formulation that contacts food, feed, or water for animals or humans? I think it is very important that this be done.... I think we should make a blanket recommendation against these uses." Despite years of discovery in lawsuits, Monsanto has not produced any evidence that such a warning was issued. [11] 1970 --- Monsanto purchased 50 hogs from Jeremiah Smith, local farmer in Anniston, Alabama, after the hogs grazed on property near the company’s PCB plant. The hogs were shot and buried, not sold for market. Local residents cite this as evidence that the company knew about serious local contamination but didn’t warn the public, who continued to eat PCB contaminated local foods for decades to come. The Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry, a division of the US Department of Health and Human Services, completed a health study in Anniston recently, which found that PCB exposure in the town is a public health hazard. It also suggested that eating local pork, fish and chicken has been a major source of PCB contamination. [5] 1970 -- The first proposal for a total ban on PCBs was made by Representative William Fitz Ryan (D-N.Y.). But partly due to false health reassurances based on Monsanto’s fraudulent IBT tests, the substance stayed on the market until the Toxic Substances Control Act of 1976. Monsanto officials responded to Ryan by saying they were "well aware of the concern" over PCBs. [11] Link below will bring you up to 2001: www.foxriverwatch.com/monsanto2b_pcb_pcbs.htmlWho Are the Real Terrorists? This information grieves me. We must Do something- now that we know about this. Found the group/s below- covers Dioxin, PCB's and pesticides www.ipen.org/ipenweb/work/dioxin.htmlwww.ipen.org/ipenweb/work/pesticides.htmlwww.calproject.org/pdf/Technologies_for_the_destruction_of_PCBs.pdfJill Dioxin is the result of PCB's incineration or combustion (per above link)Excerpt: ,,,, the most commonly used method for destroying PCBs, which often results in the dispersion of dioxin in the environment, since dioxin is a product of the combustion of PCB's... end
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Post by bannanny on Jun 26, 2009 18:37:24 GMT -5
What's so sad is it's too late to turn any of it around. A very good friend of mine who wants to remain anonymous but sometimes posts on this board just found out he has cancer. So him, along with you suebe are the latest to have been diagnosed. We've already lost so many to it here. Who's next... all of us? How do we fight? That's what I wanna know. It really makes my heart hurt so much I can barely stand it anymore. I just wish there were something I could do to help.
I love you all ~~ bannanny
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Post by Jill on Jun 26, 2009 21:46:13 GMT -5
Bannanny, My heart hurts for those who suffer and I'm so sorry to learn that your friend has cancer. You could not imagine how hard that road can be until you are there. Tell him/her to keep the Faith. I don't know what type of cancer, but there are great treatment centers in this country. The most important thing is to try and keep upbeat. We do a lot of comedy movies and videos to keep laughing with our loved one. Laughter is good medicine. As to what to do about this condition- at least the PCB/radiation aspect (there are so many other aspects), I believe we need to take action. Just came across the links below today. Someone at one of those links may be able to help or point us in the right direction. They sure must know a heck of a lot more than we do about PCBs/Dioxin/pesticides- which we learn (after years of speculation) is at the heart of our condition. We can do that- or speculate for a few more years. You don't really think a researcher would stick their neck out and confirm any of this do you? Don't they call that career suicide? www.ipen.org/ipenweb/work/dioxin.htmlwww.ipen.org/ipenweb/work/pesticides.htmlwww.calproject.org/pdf/Technologies_for_the_destruction_of_PCBs.pdfSometimes when you start a project- take the first step, the next step becomes clear and with each additional step you take it almost becomes easy. I know that we need to do something and the above is about all we have right now. Someone summed it up on another board- they said that this is going to be a Grassroots matter. No one else will take notice much less help. Jill
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Post by kiki on Jun 26, 2009 22:10:53 GMT -5
I know I mentioned this 2x before but I cant stop thinking it has to mean something. Does anyone know what barium is like when exposed to radiation? Would it taste carbonated with a "bite"? Im talking about the white chalky kind.
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Post by Jill on Jun 27, 2009 6:49:07 GMT -5
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Post by Jill on Jun 27, 2009 12:14:49 GMT -5
www.foxriverwatch.com/dermal_skin_pcb_pcbs_1d.htmlSkin Absorption and Damage from PCBs (sounds exactly like the Fibers aka Morgellons) Back to Skin Absorption and Damage from PCBs Table of Contents Summary of Skin Damage Study Results (each entry represents a finding in a study --- some studies had multiple findings) Not all studies are equal in size or quality. Some examine the effects of old PCB commercial mixtures (which had variable composition), or just one or two individual types of PCBs (out of 209 possible.) Some studies use high and some use low doses of PCBs. In many cases, the exact PCB dose was unknown. * PCBs are absorbed through the skin * PCBs cause chloracne and chemical burns on contact with the skin * dermal application of PCB causes lesions of liver, kidneys, and lymphoid tissue, along with effects on the skin * acneiform eruptions and enlargement of the follicular openings; pigmentation of the nails, gums, and lips * dermal changes appeared to be caused by hyperkeratinization associated with abnormal lipid metabolism * skin lesions are one of the most striking changes in mammals exposed to PCBs * PCB poisoning was associated with chloracne and skin discoloration in infants * elevated PCB levels and exposures were associated with dermatotoxicity * PCBs exposure is unequivocally associated with chloracne, skin hyperpigmentation and chronic skin irritation * the great majority of workers handling PCB had dermatologic complaints. * discontinuance of contact with PCB led to gradual improvement of these lesions * PCB contaminants (furans and quaterphenyls) may contribute to skin effects * PCB treated animals showed no dermal symptoms, but furan treated animals did [PCBs are generally contaminated with furans] * dermal toxicity is a response to PCB exposure * dermal lesions are typical sequelae of human PCB poisoning * humans exposed to PCBs showed skin discoloration and dermal abnormalities * PCBs caused dermatosis --- Acneform eruptions, prominent enlargement and elevation of the follicular openings, pigmentation and flattening of the nails, and pigmentation of the integument * hyperpigmentation of the epidermis, mild hyperkeratosis, severe keratotic plugs in hair follicles, and chronic inflammatory dermal infiltrate with foreign body granulomas * atrophic epidermis, cystic follicular dilatation, keratinization of sebaceous epithelial ducts, and abnormal melanin deposition in basal layers of the integument * chloracne cleared more quickly in occupationally-exposed vs. Yusho-exposed PCB victims, possible due to differences in furan concentrations * acne like eruptions on the cheeks and chin characterized by severe inflammation and cystic changes * dilated and hyperkeratinized follicles with inflammatory infiltration * some occupationally-exposed PCB workers showed dermal effects * dermal effects were attributed to the mediation by an aryl hydrocarbon (Ah) receptor mechanism of action. * dermal lesions improved after fasting * acneform eruptions forming cysts or abscesses were difficult to cure * PCBs induced keratinization in mouse epithelial cells * PCB toxicity in rabbits was initiated by dermal application of PCBs * monkeys fed PCBs developed generalized dry and flaking skin, and some hair loss * animal studies have demonstrated dermal changes * dermal PCB application caused early macroscopic skin lesions * hyperplasia and hyperkeratosis of the follicular and epidermal epithelium * skin contact and inhalation of PCBs could lead to nerve damage * chloracne is considered the most significant work related acne problem * chloracne is produced by exposure to chlorinated aromatic compounds * furans are acnegenic and are contaminants in many PCB formulations * railway electricians absorbed significant levels of PCBs through handling dielectric fluid * medical complaints included acneiform skin lesions * PCBs are known to produce chloracne in humans * chloracne seems to have a predilection for the skin of the face but involvement also occurs with the neck, shoulders, genitalia, chest, and lower trunk in this order. * in severe cases the arms and legs are involved. * PCBs cause chloracne * PCBs cause chloracne in humans * The position of the halogen atom on the molecule is vital to the chloracnegenic characteristic * contact with contaminated flood water reportedly resulted in skin burns * chlorinated aromatic hydrocarbons (such as PCBs) cause chloracne and another dermal lesions Lifetime prevalence of chloracne, abnormal nails, hyperkeratosis and skin allergy were more frequent in PCB and furan poisoning victims Go to * Skin Damage Caused by PCBs * Other PCB Contamination Sites With Skin Contact Risks * Links to More Information * References
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Post by kiki on Jun 27, 2009 14:06:44 GMT -5
Thanks Jill. Ive never been able to find anything either and it drives me mad. I know what barium tastes like-- Ive had the kind that tastes like watered chalk and the kind that looks like kool-aid. Neither one ever tasted carbonated. Something made it feel carbonated last time. I wish I could let it go but I cant stop thinking about it. The fact that I cant find anything about it makes me think it was something in me that caused it.
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Post by bannanny on Jun 27, 2009 15:56:55 GMT -5
Could verey well be morgellons caused it kiki. It seems to create alot of chemical reactions in us.
I'm sorry you have someone in your familly with cancer too Jill. It seems to be almost common anymore huh?
So would PCB's thrive in the environemnt as well like it's doing in mine? I see the same things in my environment that I do coming out of me. Or could I have something else goin on here as well? All I know is the stuff is everywhere.
hugs ~~ bannanny
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Post by kiki on Jun 27, 2009 18:04:59 GMT -5
We saw that on tv once but couldnt say when. Ron Howard is such a good person. He's had alot of heartache over his brother- an addict who has caused many uncomfortable situations. But God love him Ron wont say a word against him. Goes to show-- if everyone was raised in Mayberry it would be a better world
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Post by kiki on Jun 27, 2009 19:12:17 GMT -5
Thanks Kmarie. I'll check it out.
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Post by Jill on Jun 28, 2009 14:15:26 GMT -5
Kmar, Watched the movie and want to thank you for posting that. I have something else to be mad about now. Takes the cake, doesn't it? The film showed the process- of someone discovering the poison and the obvious effects only to be Stonewalled by various government agencies. End result was whitewash/cover-up, even after the facts surfaced. Same old... and it is happening now with many products and even the utilites (Nuclear Power). Tough to fight but fight we must if the current and future generations are to survive. All I have right now in terms of groups involved: Radiation/PCBs/dixoins/pesticides www.ipen.org/ipenweb/work/dioxin.htmlwww.ipen.org/ipenweb/work/pesticides.htmlwww.calproject.org/pdf/Technologies_for_the_destruction_of_PCBs.pdfwww.downwinders.org/PBBs www.greatlakeswiki.org/index.php/Pine_River_Superfund_SitePine River Superfund Site The Velsicol Chemical plant The Pine River Superfund Site is located on the Pine River in St Louis, Michigan, in the "middle of the mitten" 50 miles north of Lansing. Its environmental problems stem from the Michigan Chemical (now Velsicol) plant that was once on the banks of the Pine River. The plant produced both DDT and PBB, and dumped waste and pollution in the Pine River until it was shut down in 1978. The St Louis community is heavily involved in the clean-up process, headed by the Pine River Citizen's Advisory Group alongside the EPA and DEQ. www.greatlakeswiki.org/index.php/Pine_River_Superfund_SiteShort video on the above link -Citizen's Advisory Group (CAG) Excerpt: Ed Lorenz, former chair of the Pine River CAG, talks about the CAG's formation in 1997. When the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) began retesting by the Velsicol site in the 1990s, they found dangerous levels of DDT and PBB remaining in the Pine River. When brought to the community's attention, they quickly organized the official Pine River CAG
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