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Post by mrcommonsense on Jul 29, 2009 20:33:36 GMT -5
I know of at least 3 or 4 but wont mention names, please, if you ever worked at a Vetenary shop please let me know. I'm doing some research and it seems there is a pretty high relationship to this profession and Morgellons.
Thank you,
Grady ...
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Post by lamb on Jul 29, 2009 20:50:36 GMT -5
Or..as you pointed out before..how many of us have been or are pet owners? I have some thoughts about "frontline" and "revolution" etc. as tick killers.
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Post by bannanny on Jul 29, 2009 21:03:17 GMT -5
I was a vet tech for 8 years... but I don't believe it had anything at all to do with me having morgellons. After all... I was the one who gave this to my own dogs. I've been around animals my entire life tho, from the day I was born... was a horse trainer too and rodeoed on the PRCA circuit for years.
hugs ~~ bannanny
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Post by 2.99(plus~tax) on Jul 29, 2009 21:17:45 GMT -5
dog groomer 15 years now, and I also believe it had nothing to do with morgellons. Ali
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Post by massena on Jul 29, 2009 21:18:22 GMT -5
Hello Grady, I've been around animals all my life and worked as a trainer and in a broading facility for 11 years and than worked as a lab animal tech for 5 years . When I noticed I had morgellons I was working in the lab with mice and rats, than I noticed my dogs and parrots had it so at that point I wasn't sure who gave it to who. I even had a septic tank and use to work in the garden on my property so I could have got this just about anywhere. That's why I can't pin point any of this. My thoughts is that when I had two deaths in the family that;s when my on set started or at least when I noticed something was wrong with me. massena
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Post by mrcommonsense on Jul 29, 2009 22:24:54 GMT -5
I did a blog post to help pet owners, I think the advice at the end is sound and goes along with my own healing approach. We sure have a lot of tech vets and related field folks here, coincidence? Maybe it is .... I know if I am around my pets my crawling which is otherwise gone starts right up. tinyurl.com/njqg2v
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Post by bannanny on Jul 29, 2009 22:35:28 GMT -5
There are times I'm around animals... my friends dogs and cats. But I never react to them at all as far as morgellons goes. In fact, they remain to be morg free... just like their owners. This is just my opinion, but I stand on it firmly. Morgellons has nothing to do with animals except that they get it like we do. It's not the animals Grady... it's man.
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Post by mrcommonsense on Jul 29, 2009 22:46:48 GMT -5
I'm not really saying it's Animals, but if your animals get it, and many do, you're never going to be cured unless you cure them too, that's the point of my post, however, as the CDC study shows, pets are speading parasites to man, and in far more significant number that is known. Pet owners often cannot see clearly because they love their pets so much, like saying, "It's okay, he wont bite you" and then he does, I'm just saying ....
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Post by ctbarb on Jul 29, 2009 23:09:29 GMT -5
Hi Grady!
I think that you are correct in your thinking...the reasons are many, but it has been found that zoonotic diseases (those passed from animal to man) are more prevalent than we know. Not much is printed or in the media that alerts folks to these significant diseases. When we kiss, hug, play or sleep with our furry family members, we risk getting hundreds of diseases. Although we think they are clean, they are usually pretty close to the ground, they sniff at everything, walk in the woods, lie on the ground, and bring back insects and rubbings from shrubbery in the yards to us. There are many ways that they contaminate us, and usually we are able to fight the incidental diseases we share. But when our immune system is compromised, we are at serious risk for illness. I check my dog for ticks each time she comes to the door to be let in. I know I can't find them all, but when there is such an occurence, I'm right on it!
There very well could be a connection with morgs, I know that my dog has it too...poor baby. I feel so sad knowing that she hurts and never complains...
Any suggestions and treatments that you can share, I know would be most helpful to those of us who have pets. I know I would! So thank you in advance and for everything you do for us Grady...you are truly a special gift to us all.
Hugs,
ctbarb
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Post by 2.99(plus~tax) on Jul 29, 2009 23:23:06 GMT -5
Are you kidding grady? there is a cure?
there is no cure grady, only less symptoms.
also....just sayin'
Ali
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Post by mrcommonsense on Jul 30, 2009 7:12:34 GMT -5
Your right Ali, did I use the word "cure"? I try to never do that, oh I see, I said they are "never going to be cured", should be SYMPTOM FREE as I am, but I know, whatever Morgellons is is probably still in me, but my life is normal at least.
And CtBarb, read to the end of my post, the DoniVite is what I would use on your pets, did you read that section.
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Post by toni on Jul 30, 2009 8:09:19 GMT -5
Being a pet owner too, and growing up having dogs, I too was thinking about how many times we've all been to the vets, veterinarian hospitals etc over the years (with all kinds of other sick pets being there too). Those thoughts have gone through my head also. Something else too. A few years ago, here in Vegas at one of the animal shelters, they euthanized 1800 pets one day, it was in the news here. They said all the dogs were very ill with many infections. It was awful just reading about it...and that brought thoughts of something's happening and it's not good. From article: February 12, 2007 LAS VEGAS -- The Lied Animal Shelter, a regional facility in Las Vegas, has closed its doors in an unprecedented move after a deadly outbreak of epidemic proportions of parvo, distemper and feline panleukopenia. Because some dogs and cats were dying inside the shelter, officials called the Humane Society of the United States for evaluation. The move to shut down and also do mass euthanasias was a last resort, Diane said. That decision was made after a team put together by HSUS made the recommendations to shelter officials three days ago. Veterinarians from the University of California, Davis, accompanied by HSUS inspectors to the shelter. “(The euthanizations) are being done to stop the spread of disease,” Diane said in a telephone interview. It’s a difficult time and not something employees wanted to happen, she noted. A three-day plan of action, put together by HSUS, was immediately put into effect, which meant the euthanasia of any dogs and cats showing symptoms, she said. Employees, since the shelter shut down, have been assigned. A three-day plan of action, put together by HSUS, was immediately put into effect, which meant the euthanasia of any dogs and cats showing symptoms, she said. Employees, since the shelter shut down, have been assigned rooms where they are bleaching, cleaning, drying, re-cleaning and sealing the concrete floors. www.care2.com/c2c/share/detail/300294query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=980CE1DC1431F936A35750C0A9619C8B63
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Post by mrcommonsense on Jul 30, 2009 8:46:52 GMT -5
I remember that story Toni, this is part of the reason I did my post about Morgellons and Pet Owners, I got lots of questions about it. And if you think our food is screwed up what do you think is in pet food? Remember the malamine stuff that was killing them off, pet food can be very bad. The DinoVite stuff is very good, there's some great info and links at the bottom of that post, you're pets health can effect you, you pets parasites can infect you, everyone must be diligent, and when you take you pet to the vet, especially for an overnight stay that's kind of risky, better have your pet as healthy as can be, the DinoVite really targets the terrain.
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Post by mrcommonsense on Jul 30, 2009 10:51:32 GMT -5
Dog doing the "Morgie Shuffle ..." ;D ;D
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Post by rhorn2006 on Jul 30, 2009 13:08:44 GMT -5
Dog doing the "Morgie Shuffle ..." ;D ;D I can relate!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by mrcommonsense on Jul 30, 2009 13:39:09 GMT -5
Oh trust me rhorn, I've had that feeling too, uggh !!!! not good
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Post by liatris on Jul 30, 2009 14:32:28 GMT -5
Dog doing the "Morgie Shuffle ..." ;D ;D Smearing his butthole all over the carpet ... I'm thinking that whatever intestinal parasites that dog has are seriously being deposited all over - the eggs of many parasites remain viable for years in environments much harsher than a 70 degree living room. I got my larva migrans dog poop infection from exposure no where near as extreme as that home provides. Nobody would find it acceptable for a bare-assed human to do the same. I find it ridiculous that some pet owners are offended by the fact that I do not want to be exposed to more of the same of that which has done me in and seriously ruined my lymphatic system to the point that I now have 100 pounds of excess water pooled in my tissues. It is obvious that I desperately need to avoid the many pet's ubiquitous stool - when it is all over tarnation, it's inexcusable. Animals operate on instinct, but people can make choices.
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Post by bannanny on Jul 30, 2009 18:58:19 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300]as the CDC study shows, pets are speading parasites to man[/glow] ...and you're buying that one? I'm sorry, but just becuz the CDC says something doesn't mean it's true. I'd think you'd all know that by now. They don't tell us even 1/4 of what goes on out there that our own government is responsible for. We're being harmed by MAN... not animals. But the folks at the CDC aren't gonna let you even think that's what's happening... so they blame it all on our sweet animals. I was a vet tech for 8 years... the dog in the carpet cleaning commercial needs to have his anal glands expressed. That's why he's scooting. We wipe our own butts and then pull our underwear right back up over it immediately afterwards. Do you think that toilet paper (which has been shown to be contaminated by numerous things itself) is what's keeping you clean? Give me a break. Sorry, but I get upset when people take this way out. Animals should never be seen this way... and most of them are alot cleaner than we are. They lick themselves with a tongue that was made by God himself to be a disinfectant... it's in their saliva. What's in your mouth? Certainly no kind of natural disinfectants... you can bet on it, especially with everything we're being forced to eat these days. I'd like to hear the CDC say the food we eat is spreading disease to man instead... at least it would be the truth. hugs ~~ bannanny
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Post by herehoping on Jul 30, 2009 23:08:11 GMT -5
I've been a vet tech for 6 years. Been around animals all my life. I have had joint pain off and on for many years but I've never had the flu and rarely do I get a cold. I have 7 (yep 7) dogs. They all have shown symptoms of Morgellons. One of my dogs was pretty bad for about a week but she is much better now thanks to direction I got from all the wonderful people here. We have cooked our dogs food for over a year or so usually ground turkey, organic brown rice. I'm wondering if thats why (so far) most of their symptoms have been lite. We are now adding olive leaf extract and dinovite to their diet and deworming with panacur (fenbendazole) twice a month. Anyway I believe my Morgellons came from not taking care of my body. Abusing it with diet cokes, no nutrients and very little rest. I have changed that (Grady's blogs) and I have been improving. I haven't been getting the crawleys much in the last 5 days. I do get them around the computer sometimes but I NEVER get them around my dogs. Hoping
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Post by liatris on Jul 30, 2009 23:40:49 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300]as the CDC study shows, pets are speading parasites to man[/glow] ...and you're buying that one? I'm sorry, but just becuz the CDC says something doesn't mean it's true. I'd think you'd all know that by now. They don't tell us even 1/4 of what goes on out there that our own government is responsible for. We're being harmed by MAN... not animals. But the folks at the CDC aren't gonna let you even think that's what's happening... so they blame it all on our sweet animals. I was a vet tech for 8 years... the dog in the carpet cleaning commercial needs to have his anal glands expressed. That's why he's scooting. We wipe our own butts and then pull our underwear right back up over it immediately afterwards. Do you think that toilet paper (which has been shown to be contaminated by numerous things itself) is what's keeping you clean? Give me a break. Sorry, but I get upset when people take this way out. Animals should never be seen this way... and most of them are alot cleaner than we are. They lick themselves with a tongue that was made by God himself to be a disinfectant... it's in their saliva. What's in your mouth? Certainly no kind of natural disinfectants... you can bet on it, especially with everything we're being forced to eat these days. I'd like to hear the CDC say the food we eat is spreading disease to man instead... at least it would be the truth. hugs ~~ bannanny Animals can get parasites from people, too. Anyone or any animal who has parasites can be contagious. Either way the animals are innocent. The CDC and FDA and EPA and USDA are all guilty of allowing all sorts of harmful situations and then deny and cover-up. Bannanny, if you were a vet tech and around horses for all those years and you did not get parasites - you are fortunate that your immune system was in good shape. There is no blame or cursing animals if they are infected with parasites - apparently it is natural. Horses naturally carry certain parasites - there is a well-known cycle that occurs ... something like a type of flying insect flies around touching their nostrils and the horse licks the area to scratch the tickle and ends up consuming some eggs which hatch in their gi tracts, then they poop them out and they are then on the ground .... Of course the healthier the horse is, the less it will be impacted by this cycle. Horses also have problems with flies laying eggs in little nicks they may have. Flies like being around horses - flies certainly have been known to infest humans with various parasites cuz they like to hang out in animal poop. So it all comes down to immunity and riskiness of certain exposures. This has nothing to do with taking anything away from the sweetness of an animal - it is not a blame in that sense of the word. As far as the CDC statement that pets are spreading diseases to man - of course it is true and so are men spreading diseases to animals. Niether is good. The difference between animals and man is that man does have the option to take reasonable steps to avoid spreading infection around and animals just do what they do. Did you see the article from the UK vet (posted by kmarie) where they were checking for only one type of parasite on the coats of dogs and found them all over the fur. Some people are also covered in external parasites. I am sure that some of that could be avoidable. What I know for sure it that because my immunity is horribly poor, that I will avoid any source of infection, regardless of who or where it comes from - and in my case, ten years ago, I had a definitive diagnosis of cutaneous larva migrans which is a microscopic (barely) nematode, I still have it along with other skin infections and a seriously damaged lymphatic system as a result. I have so much water pooling in my lymphatics and tissues that I can barely move around. The protein that accumulates in the tissues because of this condition is very harmful because it creates a perfect environment for infections to flourish. CLM is caused by contact with even small amount of fecal matter from dogs or cats - but usually dogs. This is known. (I personally had not pets at the time). The eggs are viable for years - even through frigid temperatures. This is why "dog parks" can never be used for anything else once they have been used for that purpose. It is how humans deal with their pet's feces that is the problem - not the pets themselves. And, yes - I have a real problem with it because it has ruined my life. My neighbors cannot even keep their dog's off our lawn so everytime I am forced to venture out, I risk having an exposure to what could easily be the last straw for me. I am not blaming the animals. For me to state that I have a dog (or, possibly cat) poop disease does not make me an animal hater. When I was healthier I had pets. My concern for animals surpasses that of many pet owners. Animals are in a unique position to pick up parasites - they spend their time naked with their anuses flush to the ground when they are sitting - parasites from other animals, including birds, are all over the ground so they have direct access to the gi tract. Also, since they do not wear underwear, everytime they shift their sitting (or lying position) the spot where their butt was then is on another part of their coat. Though, they have the advantage (at least cats, anyway) of having high levels of hydrochloric acid in their stomachs to help kill the pathogens they lick when they clean themselves (somtimes) after bowel movements - humans do NOT. So getting licked by pets on the face, for many, may not be a good idea. In several ways, it is easier to get parasites from animals. The fact that laws allow pets to have bms just about anywhere in public as long as the majority of it is cleaned up - I don't think this is a good practice - there should be limits on where they can go - I would not like to see humans going any place they wanted even if they picked it up with a bag. There are many, many places alternate places for dogs to defecate other than public places where people have to walk. I should be able to walk from my car to into the grocery store, the library, the dentist's office - without stepping in left over shmears. Excluding public walking areas leaves plenty of suitable places. That would be a common sense way to go. There is no blame on animals.
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