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Post by jo on Aug 8, 2009 12:05:36 GMT -5
Dear all, Please find our research regarding the fly angle and morgellons below: www.morgellonsuk.org.uk/micromyiasis.htm Sorry its so long! Any comments and questions very welcome. Yours Jo Simmons Morgellons UK
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Post by ruth on Aug 8, 2009 13:13:22 GMT -5
hi jo, thanks for this information. dr. omar amin diagnosed me with myiasis: hymenoptera/diptera years ago. his treatment was bitricide which was ineffective.
i am curious about "One analysis of morgellon filaments reported that it was made of chitin."
i was under the impression it was cellulose. are they similar?
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Post by lilsissy on Aug 8, 2009 13:46:03 GMT -5
It all ties in to Polymer's, www.economicexpert.com/a/Chitin.htmHome > Chitin In biology, chitin is one of the main components in the cell walls of fungi, the exoskeleton of insects and other arthropods, and in some other animals. It is a polysaccharide, made out of units of acetylglucosamine (more completely, N-acetyl-D-glucos-2-amine). These are linked together in â-1,4 fashion, the same as the glucose units that make up cellulose. So chitin may be thought of as cellulose, with one hydroxyl group on each monomer replaced by an acetyl amino group. T his allows for increased hydrogen bonding between adjacent polymers, giving the material increased strength. Chitin's strength and flexibility makes it the material for surgical thread. "Chitin" and " chiton" (a marine animal) both derive from the same GreekThe Greek language ( /Elini'k{/) is an Indo-European language which has existed from around the 14th century BC in the Cretan inscriptions called Linear B. Mycenaean Greek of this period is distinguished from later Classical or Ancient Greek of the 8th ce word meaning "tunic", referring to the hardness. External links •Chitin Product Information from China GreatVista Chemicals •Horseshoe Crab Chitin Research and this ties to the patent I keep saying is the vehicle of Morgellons from the thread , IT. Does anyone remember the poly-N-acetylglucosamine?? here is the thread , lymebusters.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=theories&action=display&thread=10793The present invention relates to compositions comprising complexes of human cells and polymer fibers. The present invention further relates to methods of using such compositions in therapeutic applications. The invention also relates to methodsfor production of compositions comprising complexes of human cells and polymers. The present invention further relates to compositions comprising poly-N-acetylglucosamine polymers (pGlcNAc) in an alpha or beta conformation and stored platelet cells. The invention also relates to methods for wound healing and achieving hemostasis using the compositions of the invention.2. BACKGROUND 2.1 Poly-β-1→4-N-Acetylglucosamine Polymers (pGlcNAc) and Other Polysaccharides Poly-β-1→4-N-acetylglucosamine polysaccharide species are typically polymers of high molecular weight whose constituent monosaccharide sugars are attached in a 1→4 conformation. There is a body of literature on the properties,activities, and uses of polysaccharides that consist, in part, of pGlcNAc. A class of such materials has been generically referred to as "chitin", while deacetylated chitin derivatives have been referred to as "chitosan". When these terms were firstused, around 1823, it was believed that chitin and chitosan always occurred in nature as distinct, well-defined, unique, and invariant chemical species, with chitin being fully acetylated and chitosan being fully deacetylated compositions. It wasapproximately a century later, however, before it was discovered that the terms "chitin" and "chitosan" are, in fact, very ambiguous. Rather than referring to well-defined compounds, these terms actually refer to a family of compounds that exhibitwidely differing physical and chemical properties. These differences are due to the products' varying molecular weights, varying degrees of acetylation, and the presence of contaminants such as covalently bound, species-specific proteins, single aminoacid and inorganic contaminants. Even today, the terms "chitin" and "chitosan" are used ambiguously, and actually refer to poorly defined mixtures of many different compounds. For example, the properties of "chitins" isolated from conventional sources such as crustacean outer shells and fungal mycelial mats are unpredictably variable. Such variations are due not only to species differences but are also due to varyingenvironmental and seasonal effects that determine some of the biochemical characteristics of the "chitin"-producing species. In fact, the unpredictable variability of raw material is largely responsible for the slow growth of chitin-based industries. here is the patent, www.patentstorm.us/patents/7285266/description.html
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Post by ruth on Aug 8, 2009 14:24:29 GMT -5
jo, i would love to know what will drive them out.
are you able to share this yet? if i got control of these lesions, it would be awesome.
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Post by toni on Aug 8, 2009 16:01:51 GMT -5
Jo,
Your article material here is excellent!
I've still not yet gotten through all of it, but I will because it's very good and very interesting, and it does keep ones attention because it's all so informative.
Thank you for all your hard work, (it's excellent).
Ruth, you have the same question I did. Here's what I've copied from the article of Jo's.
Systemic treatment includes broad-spectrum antibiotics after the removal of larvae to help prevent secondary infections. Those used include ampicillin and amoxycillin(4), erythromycin, metronidazole (39), cephalosporin(46), oxacillin and ofloxacin (57).
The natural antibiotic, garlic, is suggested to farmers to add to animal feed to help prevent fly strike.
Topical treatments
Often, 70% ethanol or chloroform is first applied to the areas of skin infected.
A wide range of chemicals have been used to either kill or draw the parasites out of the skin as follows:
Larvicidals
Turpentine larvicidal drug like Negasunt (by Bayer), mineral oil, ether, ethyl chloride, mercuric chloride, creosote, saline, systemic butazolidine or thiobendazole(4).
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Post by jo on Aug 8, 2009 18:56:30 GMT -5
Hello,
Thanks muchly for comments. That's really interesting that Dr Amin diagnosed myiasis with you Ruth. Did you have a topical and systemic treatments?
Method to get them out needs more testing but it basically involves 70% ethanol, an alkaline and then an acid on skin to disrupt chitin. I will let folks know as soon as its been tested on another morgie. It worked a bit too well for me and I've had a layer of chitin on my palms all week.
Bye for now
Jo
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Post by bannanny on Aug 8, 2009 23:57:49 GMT -5
Hi Jo,
I haven't read your article yet, but what does a layer of chitin feel like on your palms? I only ask becuz I have what I call "gel" oozing from my palms and also from the souls of my feet. Clear sticky stuff that either elongates into the transparent strands or moreso in my feet will dry on the bottoms of my crocks (shoes) into a yellow/amber paste. I've also seen it crystallize in more of a pale yellow color. Been goin on for a good 6 months or so. Altho my hands seem to be doing better than my feet are since I started on NAC, Vit C and Calm Magnesium, along with Hysopp and Cat's Claw. I've never had lesions tho...
hugs ~~ bannanny
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Post by jo on Aug 9, 2009 9:43:33 GMT -5
Hi Bannanny, The chitin on my hands has a white hue and has hardened. I think the yellow goo is a secretion from the larvae. Any chance you could tell me if it smells of anything? and its pH? or anyone else? Keep truckin Jo ps - we've had some positive responses from Dr's etc researching morgs. For those that cant get through the text, Table 5 gives an overview: spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tg2-pBtrjgkWIHY_VlINUlQ&single=true&gid=0&output=html
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Post by jo on Aug 9, 2009 16:29:48 GMT -5
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Post by ruth on Aug 9, 2009 17:27:23 GMT -5
i've gotten the same off me!
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Post by bannanny on Aug 9, 2009 21:07:09 GMT -5
Thanks jo... I often get a whiff of what smells like mold coming off of me. Sometimes it's faint while other times it can be overwhelming. Reminds me of pungent dirty socks or somethin. I try to keep my ph at 7... I don't know if that's what you meant tho, duh! I've been reading your papers and they're very good. Looks like you've put an awful lot of work into all of this and I thank you for that! I hope you don't mind my asking some questions and showing you some pictures of my own samples. There's just things I always ask myself when I read anyone's theory. I'm not doubting anything you're saying by asking them either... I'm open to anything a morgie comes up with. I think we know more than the people who don't have it will ever even be able to fathom. Anyway, I just like to see what fits together and I'm sure not what you'd call science minded! So this is the only way I know how to try and relate. Is there something in the larvae or anything that would be secreted by these flies that would have the ability to elongate and also retract back into the skin? Just as these strands are capable of doing... I drew a pic not long ago of the rainbow colored strands, which have etched right into the glass on alot of my windows to show how badly my environment is also contaminated... These are the strands I'm referring to in my drawing above. Again, there's an ability here to permeate substances... Does this fly possibly have a secretion gland somewhat similar to the spiders gland that creates its web strands? I'm also wondering if it goes thru a kind of cycle where it would release particles... and emit bright sparks of light as well? Like these "light particles" of (whatever morgs is) that I captured... A little more on the gel... I believe this is a piece in its crystallized form. Could it be the same thing you're seeing on the palms of your hands? Another pic of the gel in its hardened form from my hand... You can see it's responsible for the segmented tubes emerging from it. I'm sure if your fly is a mutated form there's gonna be alot of different aspects to it... so do you think these tubes we see can be tied into the flies somehow? I'm thinkin whatever morgellons is, it's most likely a mutated form of something anyway. Also, what might cause the following process via the fly? Like I said, I'm open to any ideas cuz I sure can't figure any of it out! A tiny drop of gel purged from my finger one day while I was adjusting a sample on my scope. Long story short, I couldn't remove it so I decided to leave it to see what would happen. This was right after it landed on the base... It began to grow... and within 2-3 months, this was what the base of my scope had turned into... The growth above finally lifted, but I continued to leave the scope alone, only to find the process repeating itself a second time. The gel alone had remained permeated into the base, thus a second growth, but different pattern this time... When the second growth lifted, there were even more areas of gel that had permeated the base. I finally sent it to a researcher who recently told me it seems to be mutating again for a third time. He's awaiting a lab to continue studying the thing. This is what it looked like just before I sent it off... The closest things I've come to as far as seeing an insect of any kind are flying red ants, collembola, and a possible tick... This little ant looks like it's encased in fibers to me... Some collembola, the second pic looks like it may have been taken over by the gel... Possibly one in the making before being overcome by morgs? The possible tick? Could the rest of the pics below possibly be the fly larvae? (this one looks just like a chicken) ... it was strange how fast the color changed while I was taking pics of it. Any ideas what might cause this... Sorry to take up so much of your thread with pics and all. I'm just trying to see if we can fit it all together! hugs ~~ bannanny
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Post by ruth on Aug 10, 2009 9:06:42 GMT -5
great pics of familiar stuff. why cannot someone find out what those light dots are that line up (shown in nan's first pic) THEY are what needs to be found out. i'm interested in the colors. this etched into the plastic mirror above my bed. i wasn't sure what it was until i see the etching of bannany's mirror.......
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Post by bannanny on Aug 10, 2009 16:56:21 GMT -5
Wow... you have some great pics to compare with too ruth. The very first pic I posted was the only one that I didn't take (forgot to mention that.) It's a still from the time lapse video Cliff Carnicom did of the fiber strands found in chemtrails. But they look exactly like the strands that started to form within the gel after it landed on the base of my scope. Look at the particles grouping together to form the tube strands as I was trying to scrape it off the base. Once I touched it to scrape it off tho, it wouldn't let go. This stuff has an amazing amount of elasticity and adhesive properties to it... Massena also captured some incredible pics of what I think are the same thing... Here's the videos massena took in sequence of some gel she got from her nasal cavity that also resulted in forming the colored tube strands... This is the final pic she took of what occurred in the process above... We've been seeing alot of similar pics between us lately... and the pics you posted remind me of the same colored particles too. I was looking thru my pics yesterday and found another one of the colored particles that looks even more like the pic massena got of hers than the colored particles do that I'd posted above. This is another one she took of the final process in the videos above... and this is mine... So yeah... the gel and the particles it produces are definitely a part of morgellons (in my opinion anyway.) I only know what I feel and what I see happening in our samples tho... that's why I'm asking jo these questions. We all have our different ways of lookin at this mess, but if we can fit it all together then we're almost there ya know? I'm sure not trying to change your thread jo... please know that. I just want to know how you feel cuz you seem to be alot more science minded than I am and you're obviously a hard worker! I've gotten pretty tired myself... haven't even set up the new scope my friend massena got me for my birthday back in March yet. Still needing a break from looking at what's driving me crazy ya know? I've just seen enough of it for now I guess. hugs ~~ bannanny
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Post by jo on Aug 10, 2009 17:28:47 GMT -5
Hi Bannanny,
I've got snaps of those embryos too - they are the wrong shape to be collembolas I think?...anyone else? The second one looks to be less developed than the first - the bubble surround is the embryonic sac. I dont know what they are although they look more like book lice.
Your chickens are dried out larvae, fairly sure.
Coming back to the strands, they apparently are approx pH 3.6 and have a coating with anaesthetic effect...
Any chance folks can take snaps of whole small flies they find around and post them or email them to: info@morgellonsuk.org.uk
The lights are facinating arent they Ruth. Are they refracting, or chemical?
We will get to the bottom of this mess.
Jo xxx
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Post by jo on Aug 11, 2009 16:46:28 GMT -5
Hi guys, Quite possibly the parallel clear filaments could be larvae trachea. Like the ones sticking out of this sample:
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Post by bannanny on Aug 11, 2009 18:32:43 GMT -5
Well, I'm pretty sure this is a collembola below. I brushed it outta my hair when I first got morgs... (what are book lice jo?) The 2 below came outta my skin, they both seem to be the start of a collembola to me too... but then I'm not sure of anything! In the pic above, it looks like the gel is what's producing the strands. All these pics of the collembola (or whatever they are) were prevelent in my first year of morgs. I haven't seen any insects or their parts come from me since then tho. Altho I did see something pretty strange not too long ago. A tiny ash from my cig had landed on my desktop which is black, so it's easy to see the white particles and such that will sometimes gather together on it. But this little piece of ash suddenly started bouncing around on my desk. So of course I continued staring at the thing to see what it was gonna do! Then out of nowhere, a very tiny and completely transparent insect with wings appeared right out of the ash. I ran to get some tape but by the time I got back, it was gone. Couldn't see the thing anywhere... the only reason I did see it in the first place was cuz it happened on top of my black desktop... cuz it was totally transparent. Weird eh? That was the most recent insect kind of thing I've seen, and the first thing of its kind since my first year of morgs. My cigs get contaminated with morgs the same way I think everything out there is being contaminated with it. So I can't help but wonder if all the parasites and insects out there are simply contaminated with morgs as much as we are too and that's why we see the strands etc. in them as well. Do you think it's possible jo, that the morg gel might be what's emitting a pheremone that's attracting all these parasites and insects to us? Sometimes I think this thing was devised to do just that in order to throw us off... making us believe we're infected with a parasite or insect of some kind to keep us from searching further. I guess you can tell I'm pretty stuck on the gel being the crux of morgs (whatever the gel is.) But I'm still open to what anyone else thinks too... like I always say, I'm no scientist! But wouldn't it be fairly easy to figure this out if we were simply contaminated with a parasite? I don't understand how one could contaminate the environment like it's doing either. Please don't think I'm questioning what you think ok? I'm not at all... I just find myself questioning everything these days. It's the only way we're gonna find answers ya know... that and continuing to work together on this whole mess. big hugs ~~ bannanny
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Post by lamb on Aug 11, 2009 19:56:22 GMT -5
Bananny.. they are called psocids... all over my newly constructed addition. Paper and books drove me crazy. Probably still do. but I have not been there in a while. Too much humidity, too many floods, a dog who is allergic to life. Ya never know! But try that Zylitol stuff that Jo recommended.. it's all about your teeth. I have also had collembola so go figure. I gardened like crazy, had alot of houseplants that were overwatered by well meaning helpers. Mushrooms grow in my yard overnight and they are pre historic looking! I wish you good health and dental happiness. God Bless.
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Post by bannanny on Aug 11, 2009 21:13:33 GMT -5
Paper and books still drive me crazy lamb... paper products of any kind do. But what are psocids? I don't remember jo talkin about Zylitol either... so I need to know what that stuff is too? I finally found out I still have some dental coverage... at least for emergencies and extractions, so I have an appt. on the 25th. My teeth are a downright mess tho!
I used to see mushrooms like that grow out of nowhere in the wells of my pine trees too. That was back when I first got morgellons. Haven't seen any since... weird eh?
hugs ~~ bannanny
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Post by jo on Sept 27, 2009 16:25:19 GMT -5
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