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Post by toni on Aug 26, 2009 10:42:20 GMT -5
We have seen fibers in our skin that some have had diagnosed as to be textile fibers.
We have fibers in our skin and environment that also have been un-diagnosed to date without explanation.
I wanted to post this link amongst a few others, on this subject for one reason.
If we all only look at one corner/avenue - we might miss ALL the other possibilities that do in fact exist of possibilities of what "some" of the fibers could be too.
There are many options of what the fibers can be. They could be one of these things, or none of these things, or ALL of these things combined.
If I've EVER given the impression (that I've said: ALL the fibers are textile) then I want it expressed by me (the horses mouth) that I've NEVER in my life said that. Never.
I have said (the fibers I have seen from my skin are texile) because I can match them to what I am wearing.
If I have nano size fibers (well...with my TOY microscope) and my eyes, then I cannot see them. It doesn't mean they're not there, it means I've not seen them, because I can't without a 5,000 or 10,000X power microscope.
I have moving fibers galore too! Gosh, I've posted a million video's on these because they are so bizarre.
What are they? I don't know. And at this point, there's alot of different possibilities, as I mentioned, could be alot of different things going on-we know that.
Morgs isn't "just one thing" it seems, and we know from blood work (it does appear to be a multitude of pathogens) a cocktail.
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Post by toni on Aug 26, 2009 10:48:10 GMT -5
Did you know: Pseudomonas, E.Coli, and several other bacterial (BIOFILMS) produce macroscopic FIBERS? These "particular fibres" are called "curli". Some of these fibres produced by biofilms of bacteria, secrete "cellulose". *Just another avenue* is ALL this is, because it's not been too explored and it's extremely interesting in how resistant "these type fibers are also". From article: Bacteria spin fibrous webs of protein that allow them to attach to a variety of surfaces. These fibers, new research shows, are surprisingly similar to the misshapen proteins that compose the plaques that characterize Alzheimer's disease. The microbes might lead researchers to a deeper understanding of fiber formation and provide hints about how to keep the troublesome tendrils under control in human brains. [glow=red,2,300]The bacterium Escherichia coli spits out copies of a protein called CsgA that link together into extended filaments called curli fibers.[/glow] The fibers help the bacteria bind to surfaces: Without curli fibers, E. coli cells can't attach to the protein meshwork that coats mammalian tissues and don't form the antibiotic-resistant bacterial communities known as biofilms that foul sewer pipes and cause maladies such as gum disease. Curli fibers appear tangled when viewed under a microscope, and they are impervious to harsh chemical treatments that dissolve most proteins.sageke.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/2002/5/nw15(this is only one little article) and there's lots more.
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Post by toni on Aug 26, 2009 10:56:48 GMT -5
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Post by ruth on Aug 26, 2009 12:37:37 GMT -5
toni, i've seen the light dots enter textile fabrics and card glitter to break them down. i have just been watching a blade of grass from my hair (lawn mowing) being degraded by the LD's. keratin, cellulose degrader organism. the above pic is the end of a blade of grass. it is green but my camera sucks. the long thing coming out on the left keeps getting longer.
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Post by toni on Aug 26, 2009 14:11:41 GMT -5
Ruth, that is absolutely amazing you've got a pic of that!
And I think I know what you mean, if we're talking about the same thing.
I've watched particles (eat instantly) though rubber.
If you can, keep posting as this specimen you've got changes.
Is this happening right now?
Thank you!
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Post by lilsissy on Aug 26, 2009 14:52:38 GMT -5
Tonie, conductive polymer produces hair like projections.
Jen
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Post by overandover on Aug 26, 2009 15:04:33 GMT -5
Toni Sue I've never ever heard you say they were all textile. I'm always in awe of you because you have shared so many images of the different ones you have, we all have seen the clothing fibers under our skin, I'm sure the ones here that have a scope and look have. I don't think they are our problem but i do think "OUR PROBLEM" pulls in our clothing fibers for nesting material, IMHO I always see at least one moving fiber when I clean out a lesion, what blows me away is if I wait about 12 hours and clean out that very lesion again, well again there is at least one moving fiber in it, like how fast can this stuff multiply, it really makes cancer feel simple. I came across this today by accident, but wow look at it and those fibers, new bacteria found in 2007 called Bartonella rochalimae, could there be a connection? I'm just too tired today to wonder, like I tell my doctor Morgellons is mind blowing, hence why they are afraid to try and figure it out and everything about it is way more complex then cancer. Love ya big, Suebe
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Post by toni on Aug 26, 2009 17:00:37 GMT -5
Lilsissy,
Yes you're sure correct. I know you know tons more in that department than I do. And thank you.
I see (ALL of OUR) findings as an "addition" to help whom ever is looking.
Nothing more or nothing less...just an addition.
An addition to help *them* ...."because ya never know".
We probably have alot more time on our hands ( I know I do) than most doctors, because they are so very busy.
So the more "we can share in what we experience and video's and pictures of our specimens and events"...who knows, somewhere someone might see it, and say that IS AN ANSWER for what they might have been wondering.
I'd mentioned this to Sid (that IF we don't share ALL aspects) openly amongst ourselves and out right...
Then it's IMHO - no different than a patient going to a doctor and wanting the doctor to figure out what is wrong with them, but only giving the doctor (part of the problem).
Well, IF the doctor is going to figure out what is wrong with the patient, he must have ALL of what we're seeing. All events. All.
That's why I present "my textile fibers" because that to me is what they look like (they match exactly what I wear) not all, but most...cause something is making those go into my skin....along with whatever else is going on.
And Suebe thank you for understanding, I appreciate you saying what you did, because it's "true".
And I certainly know what you mean about "as soon as you remove a moving fiber, the next day...there's more! Oh yes, I've sure experienced that too many times.
And that Bartonella, we sure can look into that one. Thank you.
I hope you're doing really well, you're in my prayers, and I KNOW all of ours.
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Post by toni on Aug 26, 2009 17:15:24 GMT -5
I'd posted this the other day on a thread when I first saw this black fiber underneath my thumb nail. Don't know what it is...but I'd sure like to know. (this is my thumb which looks like it came from the grunge lagoon) Just wanted to share the progress of the black fiber under it. It's ALMOST to the end where I can pick it out. I've peeled off the new nail growth, cause I want it out asap. It's been 5 or so days I think now. Not sure. It's on the other thread. But, it's almost to the end. ;D I can't wait to get a look at this once it's come out more where I can take tweezers to it and scope it. I don't want to mess with it yet and take a chance on breaking it if I try to dig at it. So...2 or so more days I think.
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Post by bannanny on Aug 26, 2009 19:41:02 GMT -5
I follow everything you say toni... and you have a ton of great thoughts on this mess. I for one don't question what you're saying about the textile fibers. I think morgs pulls everything in and uses it for its own benefit. I think it uses every kind of fiber out there in the same way it uses our hair. Whether it be for a transport system or to use as a "holding tank" for its particles... it uses them all. So we're always gonna find so many different forms and fibers in our hair and skin as well. I think I see more of the transparent/clear fiber strands becuz I've never had lesions. But the colors are different from time to time even in the goo that oozes from my skin. I also think morgs is like a chameleon... it blends right into the colors around us and whatever it's using "becomes" morgellons.
big hugs ~~ bannanny
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Post by Acacian Immolation on Aug 26, 2009 21:18:24 GMT -5
toni i think the black lines under nails are actually 'smears' or 'streaks' of pigment or oil.
i've had them ALOT in fingers and toes.. adn they never take any other shape other than vertical like yours... never slightly diagnoal.. never horizontal.. never curled or kinked or whatever other shapes.. just always vertical..
i think it's an artifact of an oil producing or pigment 'spot' constantly adding to the nail as it grows .. kind of like if you put a magic marker on a piece of paper and moved the paper upwards... you'd get a vertical line straight up.
because really.. you can't tell if it's an actual fiber.. untill you rip off your entire nail and pull it off from underneath.. which i don't recommend.
ive waited a month or so until it is in the tip area of the nail.. then i've clipped the nail.. and looked closely at it.. and they're literally the nail it'self just colored differently.. there's nothing to 'take off' like you would a fiber.. it's like you're scraping the actual nail it'self.
how this plays into everything I have no idea. i just know mine.. which look exactly like yours.. are not fibers.
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Post by toni on Aug 26, 2009 21:35:03 GMT -5
Bannanny, I hear ya! I read all you say, and can appreciate your thoughts/opinion/theories too. And 90% of what's happening with you, when I see/read your posts of what you're experiencing - it's the same things (exact things) I'm seeing too happen. It is soooo weird, but it's all so real. Acacian, I really appreciate your help and thoughts on this too (this fiber thing) under the nail. About a few months ago, I guess it was, (I posted a video) here, which it's also on Utube, I had one of these same looking fiber things in my index finger. Just out of no where, it appeared. I was able to pluck it out with the tweezers (that's on video also) and it looked like "some kind of a tube" actually. Like a tiny straw. Then as I was messing with it "under the scope"...which was in an awkward position because it was so fine/thin/tiny...I lost it. So this one, it too looks like the one under my finger but we'll see in a couple days. Thank you of course, cause ALL input is helpful. Found the video of the hole in my finger, and the black fiber looking thing that was in my "index finger". This looks like the same sort of black splinter (fiber like thing) as what's now under my thumb nail right now. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa2CD6Q1VUM(This was from Jan 2009)
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Post by toni on Aug 27, 2009 9:53:58 GMT -5
Nothing spectacular here, just showing what I'm working on. I'm taking now a sander (block sander) for the nails and sanding my nail from the top...maybe I can get this sucker out sooner than later. I really am bugged by it just being there. www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FYONy5eSaoIf I can keep sanding "without it hurting"...I'll get out that way. I'm just pointing it out in the video with my needle...not using the needle to try and remove it...not yet. This is that black fiber thing I had in Jan 09 but this one is in my index finger (under the skin, not the nail). And I did get it out. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa2CD6Q1VUM
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Post by toni on Aug 27, 2009 10:08:44 GMT -5
I'm gettin down now! ;D I've been using the "nail sanding block" ontop of my nail (sanding it on top) in HOPES to extract this "black fiber thing" from under the nail from the top of the nail. I'm impatient. Adding this on (modifying) I think I better wait till the nail grows out more, my impatience is going to mess it up, I can see. So I'll tape it over and allow it to do it's thing, so I can retrieve it in one piece.
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Post by lilsissy on Aug 27, 2009 11:33:52 GMT -5
Yes, wait don't hurt yourself.
jen
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Post by toni on Aug 27, 2009 12:16:38 GMT -5
hahaha (that's the other reason I had to stop). Nail was getting too thin and sensitive. I'm a die hard when I get fixated That's the knuckle head in me. And my nail "ruled out"...it said...wait a few more days.
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Post by bannanny on Aug 27, 2009 19:36:35 GMT -5
The light from your scope is reflecting off all the particles in your nail and above it as well on your thumb. IMO, those are the chains of particles I so often talk about. Not sure about the black thing tho.
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