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Post by toni on Sept 4, 2009 7:50:29 GMT -5
Suebe, you'd brought up that new (Bartonella) on another thread, which here's more info. Very interesting. The new species, recently named Bartonella rochalimae, is also closely related to the bacterium identified about 10 years ago as the cause of cat scratch disease: Bartonella henselae, which infects more than 25,000 people a year in the U.S. www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/06/070606235253.htm Before 1990, no Bartonella infections had been identified in the U.S. The new discovery is the sixth species identified that can infect humans, said Jane Koehler, MD, professor of infectious diseases at UCSF and senior author on the new paper. www.news-medical.net/news/2007/06/08/26160.aspxCDC: www.cdc.gov/EID/content/15/7/1150.htm
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Post by overandover on Sept 4, 2009 11:15:31 GMT -5
Thanks so much Toni Sue, the way it looks "fiber like' really caught my attention. Things have been going "not so good" lately with my chemo. side effects and it seems I'm at the doctors in the Chemo. room or down at the blood center more then at home. Thank you so much for looking it up for me, you are my hero and will always call you my Dr. Toni expert in research, you don't need the PHD or MD sweetie, cause you know how to step out of the box, more like a PhD, I'd say. Md's get a day long class in school, it's called STEP OUT OF THE BOX BREAK YOUR MOMMAS BACK. Anyway I've seen where PH D'S are more open minded, guess they don't get the class ;D Didn't mean to go on there, I want so bad to understand all about this new bacteria but even if you sat right here with me and told me I wouldn't get it, my brain fog has hit a all time high and I'm feeling more like a slug each and everyday. Thank you so much Toni Sue, you are such a sweet person and I've been blessed to know you. Your images will one day be in medical books, I just know that, once we get the truth of what this is out, what ever it is? I was thinking while reading your findings, the winter i became full blown, late Oct 2004, it was so cold here, I was a early menopause lady and now always very very cold or very very hot, anyway every morning I'd sit by the oven with it on to 250 and leave the oven door cracked while i had my coffee, my kitchen was so cold to me anyway. I use to tell tom I smelled a dead rat and he'd say Idon't smell it, Josh didn't smell it, was just me. So they would giggle at me. Well that summer I had to call Sears cause the oven needed repair, when he pulled it out there was 2 dead mice back behind my stove. Now I'm wondering if I was bite by a flea that had sucked the blood of those mice. OH yuck, the thought will make me get sick. OK OK thank you again sweetie. I love you big time, you are a true gem for looking it up for me. xoxoxoxox Suebe
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Post by toni on Sept 4, 2009 11:44:57 GMT -5
Oh Suebe, I wish as we all do, for you to get better and better till you're screaming for JOY! That day will come. It breaks my heart to think about what you're going through. I love you, and I'm sending you the strongest healing vibes to conquer! When I read about that Bartonella Rochalimae, so much went though my mind about (how until the 90's) they didn't even know about this one. Makes me think about that in relation to Morgs too. How we're all suffering, just because it's not yet been "realized" . And yes, those fibers I think also are "macro" pretty much. It's a very interesting and wonderment too about those dead rats, because it could very well be a possibility. And heck, fleas too carry this. We've all (those with pets) have experienced fleas with our furry loved ones sometime or other with them, and it seems like it's a great possibility in many aspects of just daily life....and something we're not even aware of. Our pets aren't tested, and neither are people, yet this is so "easily" contracted. All of our day is going to come. Just keep hangin tough and strong, and healthy, so we can all be free again. Love you Suebe!
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Post by Sidney on Sept 4, 2009 11:58:42 GMT -5
Excellent information here and excellent find. Thank you so much!
I've had many cats over the years, many "play" bites, and many scratches that bled. Never once did I get an infection.
On the other hand, Nancy P., known and loved by many of us, had either seven or eight different bacterias and they finally took her life.
Tested positive for Lyme, (Borrelia burgdorferi) two species of Bartonella, (Henslae and Quintana) among them.
Nancy had never had a cat as a pet, and hadn't been scratched. She didn't have body or head lice, and if Nancy and her husband ever had a mouse in their house I never heard about it, but that is of course always a possibility.
I didn't realize Bartonella was another cause of Trench Fever, and really learned a lot from this post.
SueBee, I am so sorry you're having a rough time of it and wish each of us could take a small part of your suffering leaving you with none! We all love you and want the very best for you.
Toni-Sue, you continue to amaze me with your computer talents, photographic skills and dedication. Thank you.
The Cat Scratch Fever reminded me that a few years ago my husband's neice removed a cat from their attic and in the process got both arms badly clawed to the point she had to seek medical attention. She became very ill, her arms swelled and she was on antibiotics for quite a long time. She was diagnosed with "Cat Scratch Fever."
The part of the article I loved the most pertained to admitting or stating (to be fair) new discoveries do happen! Maybe there's hope for us after all.
Many thanks and love to all.
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