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Post by bannanny on Oct 27, 2009 20:37:14 GMT -5
All I can say is hopefully, hopefully, hopefully... they'll give us something we need. Just gonna have to wait and see...
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Post by rhorn2006 on Oct 27, 2009 22:25:35 GMT -5
Rhorn, I cannot find anything to disagree on..... But is there anything as to what they have found? WHAT is the question. Any guidance out there for the medical world? Treatment recommendations? Where did you get the results of the study? ......uhhmmm.....now I want information.....hehe. Frito Frito,, this is the link JJ posted to the report I read........... www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2737752/No treatment info, but a basic outline of some medical findings that clearly establish it as a medical condition... If I read it correctly.. Here is the "CONCLUSION" part of the paper.............. "Proposed Characterization of Morgellons Disease" The authors conclude that Morgellons disease is a multi-systemic illness that has been presumed as a delusional phenomenon for decades as its most obvious and disconcerting manifestations resembled actual (but “unverified”) parasite infestation as well as various psychopathologies. However, using recent technology and even a modicum of consistently obtained physical data supports that Morgellons manifest as a skin phenomenon, an immune deficiency state and a chronic inflammatory process. Since infectious agents can initiate and maintain chronic diseases, the behavioral and other CNS manifestations here are more likely effect than cause [18]. We suggest that the Morgellons label be considered to displace any label suggesting delusion as the primary cause of this phenomenon.I don't know what anyone else gets out of it,, but from what I read it is pretty clear, and it "kicks some serious butt!!" ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by rhorn2006 on Oct 27, 2009 22:40:25 GMT -5
Oop's............... In looking at the source of the information again,, it does not appear to be the CDC's report ... It's apparently the MRF's study final report.......... Oh,,, so much for wishful thinking... Hey, seeing what I wanted, instead of whats actually there,,, does this mean I am really delusional after all!!! Fingers crossed, hoping the CDC report is as compelling as this one...
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Post by fritolay66 on Oct 27, 2009 23:32:01 GMT -5
Ah&}} Rhorn ....my son hears only what he wants to too.... ;D ;D I cannot describe the hope I felt today, and no, I do not regret your eagerness as well for some good news. Onward, one step at a time. Frito
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Post by Acacian Immolation on Oct 29, 2009 18:56:29 GMT -5
lil tid bit that is worthy to note: from the Letter from CDC to medical association[/b] PDF [/i][/quote] from here (link) at the end of the 4th paragraph down. so there's a place to look if by chance it hasn't been published elsewhere during the unspecified length of the wait-time in Nov.
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Post by fritolay66 on Oct 29, 2009 22:32:56 GMT -5
Cute Avatar!
Thank you, not quite as uplifting as I could of hoped for. Onward.
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Post by rhorn2006 on Oct 30, 2009 3:44:59 GMT -5
lil tid bit that is worthy to note: from the Letter from CDC to medical association[/b] PDF [/i][/quote] from here (link) at the end of the 4th paragraph down. so there's a place to look if by chance it hasn't been published elsewhere during the unspecified length of the wait-time in Nov. [/quote] Thanks for the link,, it's well worth bookmarking,, for a while anyway.. "The investigation is ongoing and no results are available at this time. Results of this investigation will most likely be published in CDC’s weekly bulletin, called the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, or a peer-reviewed scientific journal" Just trying to look on the brighter side of that statement.... My doctor read the "release to medical associations" this paragraph is in,, when it came out, and he said........... The statement does not mean that they have no new finds to report, only that they could not "make any results available" until after the total findings have been peer-reviewed and any information released was approved by them to be released.. He also added that the "release to medical associations" was clearly indicating that morgellons was indeed a medical condition and further medical information about the condition would be forth-coming.. He said,, the letter was actually intended to alert doctors to morgellons being considered a "medical condition" that they are medically responsible to investigate if a patient presents themselves to them,, and "liable for disciplinary action" if they refuse to examine and test them.. He said.... Just by sending out the letter noting morgellons, it officially called morgellons into question, as a possible medical condition warranting there ongoing efforts and worthy of government funded medical research to do so,, thus making "DOP diagnoses by assumption" (without the physical medical effort to establish there assumption as "being a factual medical diagnoses"),, would from that point on, make DOP by assumption a "willful violation of the standards of professional medical practice" under federal law, and well enough reason for a doctor to loose there medical license over.. My doctor called it "a pretty darn slick move on the CDC's part" Because "up to that point" doctors were able to refuse medical attention to morgellons patients, using the excuse that "the CDC had not said it was anything other than DOP" so they were not responsible to mess with it,, so the CDC's intention was not to confirm or deny but to to call it into question,, putting the "responsibility to check morgellons patients for a medical condition" in the doctors laps!!! and take away there ability to "use the CDC's lack of say-so, as an easy escape-goat, to shift the blame of there doing nothing on the CDC, because they had not been told to do anything about it yet!! And without the CDC having to give up any info for them to work with!! Kind of a "pay-back" thing for doctors, for the blame slinging on the CDC,,, I guess. ;D ;D ;D At least, that's what my doctor got from reading the letter... It was
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Post by fritolay66 on Oct 30, 2009 6:49:35 GMT -5
Another step forward? Thank you for the positive note, a lot of us needed that. I don't know but since those doctors are such morons, I wish the CDC would give them direction. Frito
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Post by lilsissy on Oct 30, 2009 7:04:31 GMT -5
Thank you Rhorn, that was very enlightening.
I am convinced they found something of a Medical (parasitic?) basis . I just pray the report is honest as to the nano-tech part of Morgellons. There is so much money in nano tech today that I would expect a lack of openness if this is nano-tech related.
I also expect to see the use of radiation or frequencies to treat morgellons.
Jen,
From your link, This review of 25 consecutive patients with Morgellons disease (MD) was undertaken for two primary and extremely fundamental reasons. For semantic accuracy, there is only one “proven” MD patient: the child first given that label. The remainder of inclusive individuals adopted the label based on related descriptions from 1544 through 1884, an internet description quoted from Sir Thomas Browne (1674), or was given the label by practitioners using similar sources.
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Something not commonly know was the use of nano's in the town of Sir Thomas Browne produced by the dyes in the making of stained glass windows.
The Indigo dye making process has been know to be hazardous and it deals with creating charged particles on nano scale. It has been shown to create illness in the past.
Whatever this turns out to be I believe that what Randy Wymore described , the appearance of a network of fibers 2 layers subcutaneously when teased out is a single fiber. Is so close to the description in the brain computer machine that it is mind blowing. What was described in the patent was a filamentous network of polymer fiber that "bouquet's" out in the vascular system to form an artificial nervous system network which will link to a computer . This is the future and there is not much of a way around it. Technology advances despite it's opposition . I highly doubt the truth will be told at this point because the public will not be willing to accept it unless,,,,, it is seen as a lesser of two evils and is somehow incorporated in the cure of illness.
The biggest move I expect to see is the need for Veri-chip to be kept in the face of the public. Now that veri-chip has incorporated illness sensor technology into it's future that is also our future, more illness to highlight the need. A illness which produces or draws bugs under the skin is an ideal way to get us to get in-line for the chippy sensor or should it be called sensory chip.
They know that Christians will reject this and they need a big plan to enable public pressure to overcome religious beliefs.
I used to think it was paranoid people who believed that missing children are used as an agenda move for getting parents to mark their children but I really see this is a strong possibility. Is it just a co-incidence that our economy is falling , illegal immigration is soaring , mass illness are being announced at a time when high terrorism is abounding , Morgellons is part of that Agenda.
The deck is being stacked in favor of marking mankind.
Jen
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Post by rhorn2006 on Oct 30, 2009 12:44:25 GMT -5
Jen posted (I am convinced they found something of a Medical (parasitic?) basis . I just pray the report is honest as to the nano-tech part of Morgellons. There is so much money in nano tech today that I would expect a lack of openness if this is nano-tech related. I also expect to see the use of radiation or frequencies to treat morgellons.)
Your more than welcome Frito & Jen,,,,,,,,,
If it is "nano-tec",, the most likely successful method of treatment might be electro-shock treatment.. OUCH!!!!!
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