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Post by ctbarb on Oct 29, 2009 15:26:53 GMT -5
Thanks, I just spent 30 minutes looking under that same category and could not find any stage that truly resembled what I have in the picture. I even searched marine life...nada. Then Clonorchis, nada...Fasciola, nada...and on and on. I'm going to put up another photo of what appears to be a seed or an egg that was in the stool around the same time that this showed up. However, this seed/egg came out of one of those 'calamata olive looking things' that come out of me by the hundreds that I believe are the capsules for rat lung worm. This design reminds me of the design I found on one of the snail/slug samples too? Can't remember where that is right now. But the pattern is so similar to me. This too, is hard and is small and was inside that black ball thing. Thanks for looking, I know I've seen that someplace, but my brain is in a fog today.... Hugs, ctbarb Attachments:
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Post by fritolay66 on Oct 29, 2009 15:45:05 GMT -5
I am not necessarily foggy, but I am struggling to get things out. Arghh. And the stuff I forget from one moment to the next. :-/I am with you, I remember seeing it too but I don't know where. !!! You mentioned a "calamata olive". Was this in fecal matter? Have you considered gall stones. Flukes and such are said to be the starting point of the formation of gallstones. When they break open, you can find all sorts of "goodies" inside. Hope you find it girlie. Frito
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Post by morghunter3 on Oct 29, 2009 16:46:08 GMT -5
Good job Frito ! Whatever they are, they're disgusting. The question that comes to mind is, can they and their toxins be gotten rid of? Is it possible that this is what has us all bloated ? So many questions. Later, morghunter3.
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Post by bannanny on Oct 29, 2009 18:47:37 GMT -5
I must say yours and mine do look the same ctbarb. I can't remember where mine came from exactly... but it was out of me somewhere. Probably either came out of my head, hands, or feet tho. Toni took pics of some specimens I'd sent her kammy. I just can't bring myself to set up my scope... I'm a big chicken anymore. But your black seed ctbarb, also reminds me of one of mine and one of toni's too. Here's mine... and here's toni's... I also have a pic that looks like the same burnt amber color as your other one and crystallized too. But it has a sharp thing projecting out of it as well. I remember sending this sample to Mark Darrah, but damned if I can remember what he said about it now... Here's a close-up of it... We're seeing alot of the same stuff these days guys. Hopefully it'll lead us somewhere. That's pretty amazing about what you've got growing Sid... think I'll get one of the kits too. I feel there's definitely a mold aspect to morgs. Good to see you morghunter! I was wondering what happened to you. In fact you've got pics that resemble these too. love ya's ~~ bannanny
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Post by rhorn2006 on Oct 30, 2009 4:44:50 GMT -5
Hey ctbarb,,,,
Well it's certainly not "a piece of food you coughed and it came out" !!! Any kind of food item you had swallowed would either be in its original shape 'if swallowed whole" or have a random shape with random features if it had been chewed "at all" then swallowed.. If you notice the spikes they all have the same physical appearance,, they run in unformed rows,, there spaced evenly apart, and slowly graduate in size and length as they run to an end.. This is a common characteristic of an "organic organism" not a chunk of lodged food you coughed back up...... The same appearance of spiked rows seems to be common of many morgellons related organisms,, that seem more to serve as a means of securing there attachment to soft tissues, more than anything else I could think of... It's not a very comforting observation, I know,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but you did ask,, and that would be my take on it....
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Post by rhorn2006 on Oct 30, 2009 4:56:17 GMT -5
And the underside trailing tail or whatever you want to call it, is part of the stages I was saying earlier. I yahoo'ed flukes under images heading. Frito Hey Frito,, I could be wrong but it was my understanding that flukes are microscopic,, there saying these things are the size of a sesame-seed!! Do any of the flukes you have found in your search get anywhere near that big??
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Post by fritolay66 on Oct 30, 2009 7:42:20 GMT -5
Barb,
I also remember discussing this with Dr. Hildy two years ago and have always kept up my protocol on intestinal cleansing and remediation with the Happy Tummy. I don't mention it much anymore because it is routine. There is no question about doing it for me. I have found that most things parasitic do multiply or grow with the intestinal tract or some stage travels through it. I ordered a new scope and it should be here by next week. Perhaps now I can contribute.
Rhorn,
On Yahoo, type in flukes, go to images, and the third page. There are flukes in a petri dish. I can't give you an exact measurement, but the younger stages (ova)are microscopic. It is my understanding that with long term established infection, the bigger they get. Also, I have learned some internal parasites can live a mighty long time. If you haven't read Dr. Hulda Clarks book, "The Cure for All Diseases", pick one up if this is where your interest lies. You won't be dissapppointed. Hmmm, I know you know this???
Frito
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Post by toni on Oct 30, 2009 10:23:49 GMT -5
Your specimen here Bannanny. I'm glad you posted this. THIS (these ARE) the things in the food! A few years ago, I noticed in 3 entirely different foods: Jiffy Corn Bread mix (dry mix) in a box and inside a bag Pace Picante Sauce (salsa in a jar) Farmer John plain link sausage (refrigerated foods) The SAME EXACT (things) just as your picture here were in ALL 3 of these products. Now that's just what I could see. I'd bet they're in other foods too. Now to "prove this out to myself"...Mr Toni went back to the store and bought more of each product. 10 pkgs of sausages 6 I think it was of Pace Picante sauce 10 boxes of Jiffy Mix. I opened them all carefully into separate bowls and plates. 3 of the Pace Picante sauces had the specks (just like your picture) 6 of the Jiffy mixes had the specks (like your specimen) and the other 4 did not have them at all. I think it was 4 of the Farmer John Sasuages had them also, yet the other packages exactly the same did not. These are exactly what I was mentioning in 06. And the kicker is...NONE of these products are from the same company. I checked. So being there's no relationship between any of these products and being that some had these (things) in them and some did not, even though they were of the same product, like some of the Jiffy mix had them whereas the other boxes did not.... THAT tells me....(IMHO) something is either being contaminated- accidentally...or intentionally...or well...I don't know!?
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Post by ctbarb on Oct 30, 2009 10:50:09 GMT -5
No, Rhorn, flukes can be quite large actually...Google fluke images and you will be surprised at how large they can get. I 'brought' up some very large ones...more than 3" in length and at least 1/4" thick...took them to the lab to be processed, and they put it in the container with the formulin, and by the time it got to the lab, it was totally dissolved! Since they had not seen the actual sample to readily identify it, the results came back - you guessed it - NEGATIVE for Ova & Parasites!!! Now, that is just not possible. This sample was also confirmed by my Vet!!! Thought it had come from the dog!
So, you see, the labs are not helping us one bit...anything, stool sample with solids that are obviously some type of growth, cyst, etc., when put into the formulin (the liquid in those little containers for specimens), it literally dissolves the sample! If they could have identified the intact sample (which I sincerely doubt), there is NO chance for an ID once it is dissolved. They only test for the normal run of the mill O&P in the area. Nothing out of the norm is ever tested for. Even the hospital labs can't help...I've been THAT route several times. They will argue with you and tell you that you HAVE TO put the samples inside the formulin container for SAFETY! That's total BS! All it does is dissolve the sample, leaving it totally unidentifiable to the lab tech, who tests for only the organisms that the Dr. tells them to. And, we know already that the Dr. hasn't a clue! Really, if you don't lead them down the path, they are not going to see it.
Been there done that...so many times it makes me nauseous. Remember folks, the Dr.s just can't and won't admit they don't know...that too is the crux of many situations we face. Their own arrogance will not let them be wrong! And since they are the ones who are writing the orders to send to the lab for identification, ZERO going in = ZERO coming out!!! You're paying big $$$ for ZERO = NOTHING!
ctbarb
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Post by massena on Oct 30, 2009 12:55:16 GMT -5
I know this isn't a very good photo but I thought they kinda look alike ctbarb and banannay. I can't remember where I found this one but I do know it came from me. I think I know what pattern you are talking about and I have too seen it many times. I have some interesting photos that are a little different from your 1st photo but I think they are worth looking at ....I will share them when I get back from my review today many hugs to all , massena
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Post by camv35s on Oct 30, 2009 13:28:32 GMT -5
Hi frito whats happy tummy, and what kinda scope did you buy, best regards camv
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Post by ctbarb on Oct 30, 2009 14:20:15 GMT -5
OK! This is a EUREKA moment!!!
I coughed up another piece to the puzzle. What we are looking at in that brown, oval shaped specimen with the indentations, is the unembryonated egg (in the feces). The feathery, spiky specimen is the Miracidia (that occurs in the snail cycle), and the new specimen that I coughed up last night, is the free-swimming Cercaria (that also occurs in the snail). Now, this all ties together with the adult worms, eggs, and specimens that I have either found in the feces, or have vomited.
It is without a doubt, the Liver Fluke!
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Post by camv35s on Oct 30, 2009 15:07:17 GMT -5
Hi Barb,great find this might be helpful from the book guess what came to dinner.Fluke, hermaphroditic, infection. Clonorchis sinensis ( chinese liver fluke) Praziquantal 75 mg in 3 doses x1d or Albendazole 10 mg/kgx 7d . Fasciola hespatica( sheep liver fluke) drug of choice Triclabendazole 10 mg / kg once alternative Bithional 30-50 mg on alternative days x 10- 15 doses. Fasciolopsis buski. (Intestinal Flukes) Drug of choice Praziquantel 75 mg / kg/d in 3 dosesx 1d. Metorchis conjunctus (North American liver fluke Drug of choice Praziquantel 75 mg/kg/d in 3 doses, best regards camv
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Post by Acacian Immolation on Oct 30, 2009 15:09:48 GMT -5
i wonder if our body went into detoxification overload and started spewing out all toxins accumulated since childhood.. would it seem any different than what we're seeing coming out of our bodies now... T-cells in abundance.. collecting toxins and emitting through skin.. (skin is the number one route for waste to be expelled through) ... awakened kundalini / holy spirit / chi's first job is to purify the body in order to change in a clean environment. really wonder if it would look any different ... I'm not seeing these things as organisms... seeing them as collections of waste material... ..rapidly expelled from our bodies. more toxins you put in... more you'll get coming out... watch what happens when you stop smoking for a week. try it.. and your skin will clear up big time. but there couldn't be any connection there now could there be.... -
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Post by jeany on Oct 30, 2009 19:51:52 GMT -5
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Post by Sidney on Oct 30, 2009 19:54:53 GMT -5
Good job. I never knew they were spikey looking in that stage of their development. Ugh, yuck, etc. at the thought of it.
Thanks.
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Post by kammy on Oct 30, 2009 21:05:44 GMT -5
Yes, Jeany, that looks like our throw rug or Cousin "It"... one of the life stage cycles of the snail... it's probably a GM snail... once again they may not have the GM version in the O & P Pathology data banks...I don't know how we're going to get them to start looking at GM organisms? Here's some good colon cleanses for those that are able to do this: www.coloncleansereport.net/review.asp?Network=16C&oid=3Happy Halloween, all...
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Post by fritolay66 on Oct 30, 2009 23:20:15 GMT -5
Now that was an interesting picture jeany!! Okay Barb, now what are you gonna do? As far as intestinal cleanses, at this point with live organisms and such, the only good they will do is detox you and keep those ova coming out. Which in itself is important. But how are you going to address the liver flukes? You need to do a parasite kill and you must support your body while doing it. After your parasite kill, then you will want to think about a liver flush and gallbladder flush. Flukes tend to go there and the pancreas and uterus in women. And so on.
Ah crap Barb, you have been through so much.
Cam,
You asked about Happy Tummy. It is a product used by Dr. Hildy in which she sells. It has pre and pro biotics and help to establish the normal flora of the intestines. It also will keep things moving and is chock full of good green food vitamins. Tastes absolutely awful, but does wonderful things. I like to combine mine with Colonix. I like the taste of colonix and the ingredients are something that I do not react to, There are many out there. When choosing one, you may want to consider the things you have already taken or are taking and research the ingredients first. Interactions, reactions from your body, etc.... I did this colonix, and I definately like the ingredient combo more than others. Everybody has their fav.
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Post by ctbarb on Oct 31, 2009 0:21:18 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300][/glow]Thanks Jeany, and I know you're right too...I've known that I have Schistosoma mansoni for more than 3 years and the doctors absolutely REFUSE to listen! The old standby, "YOU CAN'T GET THAT HERE!" I have photos of various stages of S. mansoni, gave them pix, samples, etc. and NOPE, still wouldn't treat me. They're getting theirs, have no fear! And yes, thank you camv, that is the proper and gold standard for the liver flukes. I first need to have them check the drug interactions between those for the liver fluke and what I am presently taking. I spoke with my PCP this afternoon, got him out of a patient's room...now that's a first!!! Sent him the photos, matched them with the CDC website, and sent them off to him! He said, "Just how many of these parasites do you have, Barb?" Told him, don't know, but there are many! And I was right! Tonight, after taking a short snooze after dinner, I began coughing up stuff. And to my dismay, more strange looking stuff came up along with more fluke stages, and something else. I did photo them, but am too tired to put them on now. Perhaps tomorrow. But something is certainly running rampant in my body this week...strange things are happening for sure. I am having severe leg cramps and I haven't had those in awhile...I'm hydrated, so that's not the issue, I doubt whether my potassium is down, I take plenty of supplements for that, so wonder what's happening? Is it Halloween? My special time of year? My broom is ready and revving up to hit the sky! ;D Yes Kam, you're certainly right about the GMOs in my case, and in most of our cases. These organisms just don't show up in so many people across the world like they are doing now. There's no other explanation for it really. We all eat, breathe and drink water...there's the common denominator! It's always reliable, no matter what! Life is not a coincidence, it is a fact, and when dealing solely with factual evidence, there is no question as to what is making us all so terribly sick. The cycle keeps going round and round...we eat, we eliminate, it goes into the sewer, it can't be totally eradicated in the treatment process, and it's right back into the system again...in the water! And while it's in the sewage treatment plant, it can pick up other symbiotic organisms along the way! So each time we fill our bodies with these poisons, we keep some of them inside of us, and the cycle repeats itself. Not new news to us, but the question is: What can we do to STOP these agri-giants from killing us all? Boycott their products? Then we don't eat. Write letters to the President? But, he doesn't read them, someone else does, and do they pass them on? No one knows. There must be something that can be done...write to our Congress members and Senators? Nope! They are so politically in tune with the agri-giants that pay the big bucks! The Lobbyists? Nope! They work for the agri-giants. Only those in the fields of molecular biology, eugenics, genetics, infectious disease researchers (certainly NOT the MDs), microbiologists, parasitologists, entomologists, neurologists, are the avenues we need to take a hard look at. But at the rate that the molecular biologists are being murdered, how many of them are willing to stick their necks out??? And, if they are researching through large corporations or universities, the government entities i.e. NIH, CDC, FDA, etc. and other corporations are funding them! I have already been informed on several requests that I've made that it is a conflict of interest to even LOOK at my samples!!! Now, does that tell you something? If they won't LOOK because they already KNOW what they might SEE, and WHERE it is coming FROM, then the answer is very obvious! I still ask the question: HOW CAN WE STOP THEM??? Concerned in CT, Barb
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Post by fritolay66 on Oct 31, 2009 1:08:45 GMT -5
Well then, take care and be well.
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