|
Post by toni on Oct 31, 2009 9:36:40 GMT -5
That Miracidium (the spikey) specimen (stage of the fluke) sure looks appearance wise the same, but...
It's size is just a bit bigger than 38 um. Which I think is 38 millionths of a meter...(I think). Which is super tiny.
To be the size of a sesame seed or larger, I think we'd need to be in the hundreds um's wouldn't we because a sesame seed is approx 1/16th or more of an inch...( I could be wrong) but I'm thinking (the specimens we're finding might be too large) for this size scale.
(The spikey picture of Bannanny's specimen and Barbs) are the size of sesame seeds or larger.
Can someone help find out this? Thanks!
And that is a great picture too (but I'm wondering about the size).
Appreciate any help.
|
|
|
Post by jeany on Oct 31, 2009 14:10:11 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by jeany on Oct 31, 2009 14:13:43 GMT -5
Miracidium is the first larva of schistosomes. Its size is almost 100 microns in length, 50microns in widest diameter. In its head region, opening of the penetration gland exists. Penetration gland secretes some proteolytic enzyme which makes miracidium easy to enter the intermediate host (oncomelania sp.). You can find its hairy appearance. Miracidium is surrounded by cilia to swim about water. Jeany
|
|
|
Post by jeany on Oct 31, 2009 14:30:57 GMT -5
That Miracidium (the spikey) specimen (stage of the fluke) sure looks appearance wise the same, but... It's size is just a bit bigger than 38 um. Which I think is 38 millionths of a meter...(I think). Which is super tiny. To be the size of a sesame seed or larger, I think we'd need to be in the hundreds um's wouldn't we because a sesame seed is approx 1/16th or more of an inch...( I could be wrong) but I'm thinking (the specimens we're finding might be too large) for this size scale. (The spikey picture of Bannanny's specimen and Barbs) are the size of sesame seeds or larger. Can someone help find out this? Thanks! And that is a great picture too (but I'm wondering about the size). Appreciate any help. Hey Toni, yes! 1 micrometer is thousandth mm...1 meter is 1000 mm....ergo..1 micrometer is millionth meter! Right! A sesame seed would be app. 1,6mm to 2,0mm..so you are also right about that comparing Barb's and Bannanny's specimens with the original size of the Miracidiums. I was thinking if this organism is a GMO couldn't it be possible that it's bigger than the original size? Like GM Corn is larger than organic corn or GM Potatoes are bigger than organic ones? Some type of mutated size? Just a thought here... Jeany
|
|
|
Post by jeany on Oct 31, 2009 14:43:37 GMT -5
Fasciola hepatica, miracidiumi274.photobucket.com/albums/jj263/lilacbliss25/BIO%20157/Lab%20Exam%20II/DSC00377.jpginstruction.cvhs.okstate.edu/jcfox/htdocs/Disk1/Images/Img0087a.jpgThe Lifecycle of the Liver Fluke The Liver fluke lives in the ducts of the liver. The fluke lays eggs in the bile ducts (20,000 or so a day) The eggs pass in the faeces and hatch two weeks later in water and form a ciliated Miracidium. The Miracidium enters the foot of the mud snail and changes into a Sporocyst. Still inside the snail, the Sporocyst changes into a Redia. The Redia then produce very small tadpole shaped Cercaria. For every Miracidium that enters the snail, 10,000 Cercaria can be produced. The Cercaria then leaves the snail and goes onto grass. There it becomes encysted (forms a shell) and waits to be eaten by a sheep or cow. If eaten, the stomach acids dissolve the cyst and the liver fluke moves to the liver and restarts the cycle. Click here for information on the Liver Fluke's life cycle! Jeany
|
|
|
Post by ANTHILL on Oct 31, 2009 15:18:18 GMT -5
Jeany next time could you please resize your pictures to no more than 500 pixels (five inches wide) or just put the link to the picture They are streaching out the fourm page badly
I'm changeing them to links this time
I have insalled a html code in the webpages to turn oversize images to links but it only works somtimes
I would so apreceate it if you could help me with this
Thanks
|
|
|
Post by toni on Oct 31, 2009 15:48:46 GMT -5
Jeany, I saw that the picture you'd had was too large, so I cut out the center of your picture displaying these things. I'm not sure what they are, but they were here, but I think too big for the page. If you want to describe this "here's the link" for those fiber looking things. i33.tinypic.com/2vuemc9.jpg (use this link) if you'd like. (if you can go into *edit* on your computer, then it's fairly easy to cut out the center of petri dishes to still keep the specimens featured) in the larger size.
|
|
|
Post by toni on Oct 31, 2009 15:54:18 GMT -5
Here it is. See what I did was "edit" your large (giagantic) picture hahah just playing (it was big though) but I edited it, in pictures, but I didn't remove it. (I can't do that part). I cut out the specimens from the center of the petri dish you had displayed. This way, the specimens aren't shrunk up, yet it still keeps the posts the right sizes - by not stretching out the page. Hope that makes sense.
|
|
|
Post by bannanny on Oct 31, 2009 17:49:25 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by jeany on Oct 31, 2009 18:07:37 GMT -5
Sorry Ant..I wasn't aware of this mistake..next time I'll do better... thanks for your help, Toni! Jeany
|
|
|
Post by camv35s on Oct 31, 2009 19:05:56 GMT -5
thanks bannanny I have made it a point to always be close to a bathroom these days best regards camv.
|
|
|
Post by camv35s on Oct 31, 2009 19:16:28 GMT -5
Hi toni regarding the pictures you edited i have hundreds of those and mine are motil If i had a video of them you can see them moving if anyone gets one on a slide watch it if its not moving breath on it the scary part is I have one in a zip lock a year old and its still moving best regards camv
|
|
|
Post by ANTHILL on Oct 31, 2009 20:36:27 GMT -5
Sorry Ant..I wasn't aware of this mistake..next time I'll do better... thanks for your help, Toni! Jeany Thanks Jeany
|
|
|
Post by toni on Nov 1, 2009 9:09:50 GMT -5
Sorry Ant..I wasn't aware of this mistake..next time I'll do better... thanks for your help, Toni! Jeany Anytime Jeany. If you need help on how to do this (cut) pictures or anything like that, please let me know in a PM and I'll be happy to help you. ;D I learned by just 'playing with pictures in *edit*'. Messed up alot, but then found out what all those icons meant. hehehe it was a pain at first I'll sure admit.
|
|
|
Post by toni on Nov 1, 2009 9:13:16 GMT -5
Hi toni regarding the pictures you edited i have hundreds of those and mine are motil If i had a video of them you can see them moving if anyone gets one on a slide watch it if its not moving breath on it the scary part is I have one in a zip lock a year old and its still moving best regards camv Camv35, I sure do know what you mean! Some of these clearish like fibers go wild over moisture. I've had a droplet of water on a needle and once I get near the fiber that I have on the slide, it causes the fiber to do anything (move) to get to that water. I've seen fibers spring to the water a good 1/2 inch away. I'll PM you some of the really wild fibers too. Just thought about something I'd written about in 06 I think it was. At the beginning of Morgs, I was talking with my dad on the phone, telling him about the odd fibers etc and how they moved when I got near them with water on a needle. He then remembered or brought up an incident (of years ago) that he'd experienced. He said (that he was watering one of his pine trees in the backyard) and he saw this "pencil size" white protrusion coming out of the trunk of his pine tree. He said as he stood there with the garden hose, he bent over to get a closer look at this "white long thing" sticking out of the trunk of the tree, and as he did - the long white thing RETRACTED back into the trunk of the tree!! Oh yes. Now here all these years gone by, and never had he mentioned this, but I guess because I'd mentioned about the whitish fibers and water, that jogged his memory to tell me about that incident he'd seen. This was in 2006 I believe that he told me about this, and he'd told me that he'd seen this happen (I asked) about 13 years prior (to 06). So that would make that incident (with the long white thing coming out of the tree trunk) would have happened in 1993. Not that I know this has anything to do with Morgs, but because it seems so strange, it seems like there might be a correlation.
|
|
|
Post by toni on Nov 1, 2009 9:30:24 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by camv35s on Nov 1, 2009 12:06:02 GMT -5
Hi Toni you jogged my memory about your dad and the tree I remembered reading this on earth clinic 2 years ago .I havent been to this site in 2 years with my luck they probably found a cure 2 years ago lol, Best regards cam. OAK GALLNUTS www.google.com/custom?domains=earthclinic.com&q=morgellons&sa=GO&sitesearch=earthclinic.com&client=pub-2476760853251960&forid=1&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&safe=active&cof=GALT%3A%23008000%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23336699%3BVLC%3A663399%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3AFFFFFF%3BLBGC%3A336699%3BALC%3A0000FF%3BLC%3A0000FF%3BT%3A000000%3BGFNT%3A0000FF%3BGIMP%3A0000FF%3BFORID%3A1%3B&hl=en1 YEA [YEA] 09/15/2007: petersen from ft laudedale, florida writes: "Hi, I would like to post this comparison I've seen between what is known as Morgellon Disease. What I have noticed is that Morgellon Disease seems to be a mite and also a fungus or bacteria. It is not unknown to the government nor is it new to doctors or botanist. Okay have you ever heard about "Oak Gallnuts"? Gallnuts are nutz that grow on many different type of trees mainly in China. The important part of the gallnut formation is the parasite or insect that stings the nut and help it form this cyst like crust. There are different types of insects that sting these nutz ex: wasp. I believe that the government was intrigued by this union that they tested and studied these trees or plants. This is because many of the trees or plants that produce these nutz are actually the natural herbs that kills or stop the formation of parasites in and on your body (morgellon's disease). There are many different gall nutz that's why there are different forms of this disease. If you study the different types you will find that these nutz produce the tannin that kills the symptoms that works relief for you. Funny how the CDC was not aware of this disease and there is no cure for it. That is because the cures are the natural herbs and the drug companies don't consider natural products medicine. Examples of this is alum (found in arid extra dry), black walnut hull (kills parasites) tea tree oil (astringent), cedar and pine trees there are many more. Mainly whatever gives you release for morgellons have plant or tree that are stung by these parasites or insects. So the government studied and alter this process and made stronger versions of this and used it against parasites in water, on plants and so forth. So we drink the water and eat the plants and wear clothing that have been altered with this. Some of the nutz do not break down completely but are what is called "polymers" (sounds like cotton or fibers to me). The nutz look exactly like the cyst that many people suffer with. The glucose in the nut is what helps with the cystic formation. Gallnut tannin are used to make ink and used to emboss leather. How I see it is if you locate what symptoms you are having and connect it to a plant or tree tannin is being used you will be cured after a period of time on those herbs." OLIVE LEAF AND PANTOTHENIC ACID 1 YEA [YEA] 12/17/2007: Karen writes: "Will you please post this handling for Morgellon's which makes sufferers so miserable? My nutritionist/chiropractor did muscle testing on me. I touched the worst Morgellon sore on my ankle and I tested positive for Olive Leaf extract (6 daily) and for Pantothenic Acid (also 6 daily). These are a very good remedy, not expensive and did the job in 3 days. I also put vitamin E directly on the sores. Such a relief! Olive Leaf extract is anti-bacterial, anti-viral and anti-fungual. - a 2000 year-old natural remedy. Check it out!"
|
|
|
Post by ctbarb on Nov 1, 2009 12:24:40 GMT -5
Hi camv,
I remember reading that article about the gallnutz too...that's when I put those together with Agrobacterium tumefaciens...that causes crown gall disease. I read on a homeopathic site that using those same herbs, helped with crown gall...hmmmm? You may have hit on something very interesting here.....
Thanks for the heads up!
ctbarb
|
|
|
Post by camv35s on Nov 1, 2009 12:32:58 GMT -5
Well what do you know I went back to the site and I guess Hildy found a cure for morgellons wonder why she didnt tell us . probably to busy writing her book I remeber judith on this site she says she cured herself with pdt and then opened her business INFRARED THERAPY thats the nature of man got to make a buck Best regards Camv35s
1 YEA
[YEA] 01/09/2009: Jennifer from Los Angeles, California writes: "I have morgellons and i am being treated by dr. staninger in los angeles. She uses Far infra red radiant heat therapy treatment and i think that anyone that has morgellons should use this treatment. I was in the hospital emergency room three times the week i went to see dr. staninger. I couldn't breath due to the morgellons attacking my throat, lungs and esophagus. It took 3 weeks using her far infra red machines and other machines she has at her clinic and now i can breath again when i didn't know if i was going to live when i was in the hospital. I purchased two of her far infra red machines to use at home and i sleep under them every night. I recommend this therapy for morgellons. And i just want to mention that Far infra red is different then just Infra red. And the machines dr. staninger uses are specifically tested for morgellons patients. I would only purchase the ones that she sells for safety reasons since morgellons patients have silicon in their bodies.
Oh and one other thing. If you want to test and see that your morgellons is not a parasite and is a man made technology. Buy Pedifix tea tree oil lotion and Endure 2000 lotion. Rub the pedifix on your lesions and then rub the endure 2000 on your lesions. You will be amazed at the silicon plastic goo that comes out of the lesions. This technique will help to flatten them as well. Also, if you look at your lesions under ultra violet light you will notice they have a flourecent glow. This is a man made disease we are dealing with another natural."
|
|
|
Post by ctbarb on Nov 1, 2009 12:34:24 GMT -5
Thanks, Jeany, that photo of the miracidium is EXACTLY what I'm looking at! No doubt about it, and it's not the first time I've seen these...or other parts of the cycle of Schistosoma mansoni...but have beent old over and over....."You Can't Get That Here!" Think I'm going to write a song about that...but then I'm not the songwriter - hey Kam! Get movin' on this, would you please? Now that my specimen of the miracidia is totally dried it measures 1/4cm x 1/4 cm. It is very visible to the naked eye. There is no doubt as to what it is...and yes, I do believe, as I've seen this is several instances, specimens from my body can be larger than is previously documented...and I do believe that it is due to the presence of the GMOs in our bodies. In this case, bigger is NOT better! Generally, many of these lifecyle stages are not seen with the naked eye, but in this instance, they certainly are! That makes me believe that they are larger due to the replication process...and they have been in my body producing their entire lifecycle for more than 3 years, that I am aware of! I have photos of 2 S. mansoni worms copulating...now there are very few species that mate in this fashion, and I had it on a video and showed it to the pulmonologist - his response: "What website did you get that from?" I had clearly documented the time, date, size, camera settings, and a penny...I guess I need to put an address label on it for him to believe! And then he would have said I cut and pasted it! Such ignorant, arrogant a**holes! So, Jeany, I do believe that we are on the right track here...thank you for your help. You hit it right on the head! Love, Barb
|
|