sondra
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Post by sondra on Aug 22, 2005 1:41:33 GMT -5
Hi all , I have not ordered Dr.Swartz book at this time, and I have no way of knowing if Morgellons is all S.maltophilia. I believe though , that many people with this condition have healed or improved by using the Septra DS in larger doses. Many of them I know have suffered for many years and are not lying. I have not been on this program myself... The question for me is , Why does this plan work for many people with this and what bacteria is it affecting? Sometimes solving problems means looking at it from more than one angle. Does anyone have any research on what all the bacterias are that Septra or Sulpha drugs are used for? I think looking at it this way we might open up other possibilities. I know there have been people who found this a successful treatment for the skin mess and had tested negative for S Maltophilia.... So Why does it help? ? Any ideas?? Love Sondra
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Post by sondra on Aug 22, 2005 3:24:10 GMT -5
I just thought I would add, that according to the Morgellons statistics (correct me if I'm wrong) a large number of sufferers are in the nursing field..... I can think of several that post or have posted here..Ruth, Cindy,Sunny, Alison in Hawaii and Dylan king who passed away, was a medical assistant.. there are many others.... Although I do not know if this is a strong enough case for the S malophilia, But it is a fact that this bacteria runs rampant in hospitals and is usually associated with bladder infections. This bacteria is known to cling to catheters and other plastic medical devices... I imagine that there are thousands of other bacterias in hospitals that nurses can be exposed to..but it is something to think about..... Just putting my thoughts out here so they will stop rolling around in my head..thanks
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Post by ruth on Aug 23, 2005 11:17:34 GMT -5
dr schwartz appears to know it is not only s. maltos. that has been genetically modified. there are an array of Bio Modified pathogens involved. i feel so grateful for the doc to not just say, "this is the one". he is saying, i will help you figure this out. it is vast.
anyways................i have always been spiritual, but i just hated reading the Bible. i'll listen to Joyce Meyer tell me the scriptures though. my daughter got me one of her books for my birthday. she was talking about healing scriptures. i though about job who's disease has always sounded like this disease to me.
IF i had read the Bible a long time ago i would have known it is sulfur that will extinquish these things as when job was healed all his possessions were sprinkled with brimstone (SULFUR). i had tried to read Job but just skimmed over brimstone not knowing what it meant. it was the key .
like everyone else, i think there is even more involved that is yet unknown.
i am thankful for the morgellons foundation for being my voice in the darkness, i was so alone before i found morgellons and nuspa. they have both kicked ass and in a relatively short period of time. we all want the same. all points must point to the center.
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Post by jeff on Aug 23, 2005 14:03:47 GMT -5
it works cause this organism has been ran through suseptibilty test in the lab by dr swartz and was found to have greatist effect..but only at 3x dose..who else has found a pathogen and tried to find what killed..then proved it worked and multiplied that by at least 20 patients....the sorry 1 plus one equals 2....i just understand the resistence here...is it too hard for poeple to admit they were wrong..and it wasnt some unknown insects or chemtrail...have they just been here for too long...im starting to suspect that alot of the fighter here may be the same posting reposting under different names...to make it seem like so many are against swartz...in fact could all these poeple be louise from nuspa...actually hired by the inventor of this deadly new form of s maltophilia created in the lab to produce more fibers...they knew the info was coming out so they created nuspa to off track poeple..and make us look like were crazy and have bugs to by themselves some time....you have to admit it a little freaky that they wont even allow any mention of a book posted on their website..and come here masked as somebody else to try to discredit swartz....i propose this is the work of 1 person...pretending to reply to his own post...you see what im talking about try to post to nuspa and just mention there is a book out...it will be deleted...this explains all the phone calls to the newsstations when mrf had media coming out....there is something very fishy
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Post by frisk on Aug 23, 2005 22:17:16 GMT -5
Jeff- you know I adore you but thats alot of accusations with no proof. Lois has always been against antibiotics and theres sound reasons for that. Sorry I coudnt disagree with you more! :-*Frisky Cat
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Post by bugsalive2 on Aug 23, 2005 22:43:06 GMT -5
Jeff,
Dr. Schwartz would do a lot better without your help. You're totally nuts!!
Bugs Alive
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Post by adapted on Aug 23, 2005 23:11:27 GMT -5
Jeff says, "is it too hard for poeple to admit they were wrong..and it wasnt some unknown insects or chemtrail...have they just been here for too long."
We all know you're impassionate over Dr. Schwartz. I feel every bit as impassionate, whether anyone knows it or not, but not over him. I've been here, total, for approximately five months. The true bottom line, Jeff, is that we can only save ourselves, as individuals, and nobody can make anyone do what they don't want to do.
I think I'll see if I can also add to the answers to poor Sondra's question that she asked here. So sorry, Sondra!
And also, I happen to just love humbling myself by admitting when I have been wrong, Jeff.
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Post by adapted on Aug 24, 2005 0:02:07 GMT -5
Okay. I'm back. I revisited what I'd read about Stenotrophomonas Maltophilia back in February when I first got on this message board.
Talk to me Jeff. Is your man Schwartz's view of Morgellons Disease being caused by it, from an infectiion, or from a colonization? I'll thank you for your reply now.
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sondra
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Post by sondra on Aug 24, 2005 18:13:39 GMT -5
Ruth.. I think there may be many answers in the bible..Brimstone is certainly an interesting one..Also I do not know if anyone remebers this article written by a journalist in Russia.(.I cannnot find any links to it yet) But she was writing about morgellons and mentioned a scripture in the old hebrew bible that talked about a disease called "the Wool Disease" is this what you are refering to? Are there any bible scholars out there who have heard of this? TMG may still have he link to that article if anyone has contact with her .....
Jeff..I believe that the people who are arguing and voicing negative opinions about everything are just having fun..They cannot be sick with this or they would be willingt o simply debate politely and keep an open mind.... The only way to stop this in my opinion is if you can only post as a member..otherwisw people can create havoc posting as guests.......I do not believe Lois is trying to stop anything except these types of degrading arguments....
I have found 3 other bacterias that can be in the system along with S maltophilia..3 of them have been cultured from my own skin..I am afraid I will have to post the info later. I don't have it in front of me ....all 3 are sensative to sulpha..one of them can cause toes to turn black... one ofthem froms colonies...and like the S.M adhere to plastic medical devices as well as found in water..etc..
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Post by spec on Aug 25, 2005 1:19:08 GMT -5
cool Sondra! If you cultured the bacterias yourself, tell us more! You never know when having some of this stuff around will come in handy Seriously though, I will be looking forward to your reply. spec ps I do not know who the little guy is in your cartoon but he is one of my favorites here.. such a fitting expression.
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Post by cb on Aug 25, 2005 5:54:18 GMT -5
ruth i think your right . i am getting better let go let god i still go to my dr and have test done and my herbs .and my house work . i feel much better not worry all the time take care god loves us alll candy
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Post by ruth on Aug 25, 2005 10:11:31 GMT -5
MY opinion: the chem trails and the biocontrol programs go hand in hand.
the chem trails are the BM pathogens sprayed or dropped to target certain crops for pest control .
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Post by Anony Annie on Aug 25, 2005 10:59:24 GMT -5
I'd like to see what a climatologist has to say about alleged "chemtrails".... and how they are most likely natural cloud phenomenon.
Annie
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Post by Anony Annie on Aug 25, 2005 11:03:24 GMT -5
The International Space Station crew sees them (chemtrails/contrails) all the time, except when airplanes are not flying, as happened in the days after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. Here is the report from www.space.com from September 14th, 2001: "Three days after suicide airplane hijackers toppled the World Trade Center in New York and slammed into the Pentagon in Washington, D.C., the station crew noted an obvious absence of airborne jetliners from their perch 240 miles (384 kilometers) above Earth. 'I’ll tell you one thing that’s really strange: Normally when we go over the U.S., the sky is like a spider web of contrails,' U.S. astronaut and outpost commander Frank Culbertson told flight controllers at NASA’s Mission Control Center in Houston. 'And now the sky is just about completely empty. There are no contrails in the sky,' he added. 'It’s very, very weird.' 'I hadn’t thought of that perspective,' fellow astronaut Cady Coleman replied." Source: http://www.space.com./missionlaunches/missions/airtraffic_absence_010914.html
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Post by TO ADAPTED FR JEFF on Aug 25, 2005 12:24:51 GMT -5
colonization
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Post by Orion*** on Aug 26, 2005 3:22:07 GMT -5
I'd like to see what a climatologist has to say about alleged "chemtrails".... and how they are most likely natural cloud phenomenon. Annie -=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--= Coast 2 Coast talk radio had a climatologist on about a month ago. He talked for about 3 hours on the subuject. Weather control is the major factor ,,while I suspect other agenda also. He said that they have messed up weather patterns so badly all over the globe that is almost impossible for any meteriologist to make an accurate forcast... The computer models no longer hold up. One must admit that the weather is getting rather wild.. I've been around a very long time and what is going on now is completely foreign to me. The next 12 months will show just how screwed up it really is.
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Post by Anony Annie on Aug 26, 2005 8:43:55 GMT -5
While there may be crazy weather patterns all over the world, that does not necessarily mean "the government" is "spraying chemicals in our air" to "make us stupid" and "have mind control over us" like many websites say. He may have talked about cloud seeding or something similar, but certainly he did NOT verify that "the government" is spraying chemicals in the air making us sick. Government conspiracies make me sound crazy, and I am not crazy, I have a disease, and I don't want to give these conspiracy theories the time of day when I could be looking for the real cause. Annie
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Post by lisa on Aug 26, 2005 23:55:48 GMT -5
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Post by Will on Aug 27, 2005 15:53:12 GMT -5
hi Sondra will you be following up and providing names of the bacterias cultured from your skin ? i'm interested in knowing ....thanks...Will
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