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Post by mfromcanada on Jun 18, 2010 23:57:03 GMT -5
Well, The lawyer got 4 so-called experts to write a pack of lies about me. This is added to the lies the 7 doctors I am suing have written about me. That makes it 11 doctors who are trying to kill me. They are scheduling a bogus hearing in the corrupt BC, Canada courts. This is a sleazy way of getting rid of my case before it goes to trial. I have no expert witness reports. I cannot afford to buy any or to bribe a judge. There is no rule of law left in Canada. I am a fighter but they have a big huge insurance company with lots of money to bribe judges and I am a sick disabled indigent person.
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Post by toni on Jun 19, 2010 11:26:25 GMT -5
Hi M,
There are no words to let you know (how much I know what you mean).
It's worse than really living a nightmare as we all know. And that doesn't even come close to saying what the reality of living day in and day out, and every minute of every day is with this.
When human beings (doctors) that we've trusted all of our lives to listen and help us to the best of their knowledge, and then they do nothing of the sort...except turn on us when we're needing their expertise and help...or even just an opinion or direction - the devastation that takes place then becomes so damaging to the patient, the VICTIM, not only leaving us in despair, but the ULTIMATE FEAR.
We are so on our own until this ALL is known (the etiology) of Morgellons and what exactly it is.
I think about this a million times a day...at least.
I think about HOW can this even be happening, in this DAY AND AGE?
Yet it is.
I get thoughts of how really our medical establishment IS so lagging and laxing, because the world has set priorities on other issues ...such as "entertainment" being probably number one.
There's so much I could say, but I want you to know, I know what you're saying. I am sure we all know to the bone.
You know the first time I was told by a doctor "this was all in my mind"... MY lesions were apparent from 30 feet away - (well, I won't say the thoughts that went through my mind).
Not that they were against the doctor, at first, but I almost felt like I had DIED and I was no longer here, like I actually WAS in HELL itself...because I WAS THAT shocked! I thought this has to be what it is, because this cannot be real! The "no acknowledgment" of anything!
I mean I think I was in a temporary shock! Total disbelief. And I can't even express that in words to the degree I really mean it.
Then I thought, has the World gone INSANE? Really! Because I could NOT mentally register what that doctor was actually saying, which was said as he STOOD before me, telling me "this is in my head". I mean with every ounce of me, there was the thought of: He CAN'T be saying what it sounds like he's saying! But yet he is, and HOW can he say this? Those were the thoughts running through my mind, as he said what he said to me.
I KNOW you know that feeling that happens when a blatant beyond BLATANT lie is told right to your face by the doctor we so soooooo desperately are near begging to help us - and then ....nothing. Nothing from them, except a turning of the tables, and we then become the 'blame'.
All I can say (imho) is until "this is established" from start to finish as far as the medical fields go...we are going to suffer because no one can legitimately stand for us against "what the medical establishment says is non existent" until it is.
Whether this is being 'hidden deliberately', or whether this is something of such an unknown species and it has DNA that isn't allowing it's exposure to be seen, ...just don't know.
I don't understand either why they ALL behave as though they can't "see it". Unless it's that undetectable...and there's more than we know or can even realize. We are also left to wonder and assume...and none of it's right or humane under the circumstances. People are being treated worse than allowed for animals! I mean IF we had pets in the condition WE are in, we'd be arrested for animal cruelty!
I don't understand it either M, but I feel deeply for your pain, for all of our pain, because WE TRULY are in the extreme pain that no one can imagine - unless they're infected, only then can they know what this in every facet is like, and not only the physical, or mental devastation, but the loss of so much, and so many INNOCENT lives.
We need help and that's all there is to it. And you're not alone by any means M. Hugs
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Post by ruth on Jun 19, 2010 11:37:07 GMT -5
it sucks when you are being blantantly lied about and are helpless to set the record straight aka corruption. it happens everyday and everywhere...........insanity seems to prevale as normal. i feel like life is some kind of pergatory as it just doesn't make sense.
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Post by bannanny on Jun 19, 2010 13:31:08 GMT -5
I'm so sorry m... but I know what you're feeling too. Sometimes I even start to think this earth is actually hell too ruth... but then I think about all the good things that are still out there for us to see and feel. So screw those docs and lawyers... they'll have to answer to God one day whether they answer us or not. You said it all very well toni... and at least we have each other right? Right! love ya's ~~ bannanny
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Post by mfromcanada on Jun 19, 2010 15:58:06 GMT -5
Thanks for all the support everyone. I love you all.
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Post by fritolay66 on Jun 19, 2010 23:52:40 GMT -5
Sure am sorry to hear this, but I did read this last night and said a prayer.
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Post by rhorn2006 on Jun 21, 2010 8:55:12 GMT -5
This is so sad.. There is no such thing as "fair play" for us yet..
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Post by skylark99 on Jul 5, 2010 15:59:41 GMT -5
I have just read this thread, weeks after the first post. I wanted to say that I am so disappointed for you, M. was recently talking with another person about her same issues as yours, and I thought: As a kid I was punished if I ever told a lie. Oddly, decades later as an adult, I find that I often get punished for telling the truth!!
And toni- I identify with what you are saying. I have caught my own doctor in five lies since January....... FIVE times she has lied to my face. Unbelievable. Injurious enough when patients are uneducated, insulting when they aren't.
What I do know is, that as much as many people want to deny that this illness exists --for whatever reasons- eventually, so many people will have it, that it can no longer be denied or ignored. The fastest growing group to report symptoms is apparently doctors and nurses.
I think that my doctor knows more than she is saying. She has never touched me, never taken my temperature or blood pressure, never examined me or looked at my skin. When I talk to her about my symptoms she looks horrified and always keeps her distance. I asked her: what happened; it used to be that a patient came to a doctor and related their symptoms, the doctor examined them and came up with a diagnosis, treatment and sent the patient on their way; if he or she didn't know what was wrong, the patient got referred to someone who did; so what happened, what changed, why have you done nothing to help me but look uncomfortable or horrified? I am not going to discuss that with you, she said.
A long time ago, someone very wise said to me, people do not care if we get well, they only care that they do not get infected. Well, that is self-defeating, isn't it? People should care that everyone with this illness gets well because it could be them next.
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Post by toni on Jul 5, 2010 16:58:16 GMT -5
What you said there White Rabbit:
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A long time ago, someone very wise said to me, people do not care if we get well, they only care that they do not get infected. Well, that is self-defeating, isn't it? People should care that everyone with this illness gets well because it could be them next.
Toni replies: Yes, that's for sure.
But, I can honestly say that ALL of my life, when I've heard of any 'creepin crud' that was circulating in the world, the first and actually only thing that came to my mind too was: HOW do we not get what they have?
That seriously, was the thought. And I do believe IF I step out of the fact that I am infected with Morgs, that IF I weren't infected.....
I would STILL be saying the same thing.
I think "when one becomes infected/diseased" we then change our tunes. But, only because we are "there, meaning involved now".
If we weren't infected/diseased/*involved* with Morgs... we'd be living life without really giving illnesses much of a thought, unless we were involved someway.
Of course "it's the blissful ignorant way" most live, as we all are preoccupied with the normal events life has.
Possibly when more learn about how devastating Morgs really is, because it's a life taker - and changer at it's least, then more will pay attention that this is much more than how everyone perceived the bird flu. Morgellons just needs more, lots more attention publically...imho.
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Post by zabrubon on Jul 5, 2010 23:55:29 GMT -5
MyfromCanada, sorry to hear you are ambushed by doctors that lie and double deal. Truly there day will come and they will be punished. In the meantime you and I and the rest of us suffer. I am praying that God Almighty will interviien. He is the Power. I pray that God will rise to our defense for we are innocent and defenseless. I pray for your strength. I pray that God will bring along side of you others who will stand by you and back you. May the God of creation come to our defense. May He bring help to you and to our cause. May there be a big slip up on the part of the ones who set this disease in motion. And may God Almighty have mercy on us and give us power in numbers and give us a path to follow to quash our enemies and allow us to be victorious in our cause. I pray we are soon healed from this disease and that others who have money and prestiage will befriend us and stand firm for our sake. God Help us. ChicagoBonnie
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Post by mfromcanada on Jul 6, 2010 3:18:12 GMT -5
Thanks again everyone. I keep making and posting at mfromcanada1 on youtube.
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Post by ctbarb on Jul 6, 2010 9:17:13 GMT -5
Dear M, I am truly sorry for what is happening to you and many others out there who are fighting for their lives - literally! IMHO the medical community is so afraid of what they HAVE (their offices, licenses, beautiful homes, cars, etc.) that they don't want to lose those amenities by practicing the Oath they took the day the added "M.D." to their name! It is criminal, shameful, and downright disgusting how they can lie, cheat, and steal (yes, they are stealing our money when they don't try to help us), and just protect their own arses! Let the people die, there are just too many of them anyway! Bottomline: They won't care until they too have this horrible disease and they lose all they have! Blessings, Barb
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Post by andycoyle1 on Jul 6, 2010 14:36:08 GMT -5
Dear M BOOHOO dont get angry get even, beat them using their own system. Of course my heart goes out to you, but I am sitting here knowing these things are in my brain and I am probably going to nd up screwed, and they still will refuse to believe they are in me. So how to get even using their system, go to a new hospital, tell them you just arrived back from abroad, somewhere tropical, give them a false name etc. report your symptoms, tell them that you spoke to a healthcare provider at the hospital abroad and he said to use the Touiludine Blue O blood stain test to screen your blood. When asked why tell them they had an outbreak of similar symptoms ercently and they identified an organism within the blood using this test, if asked why you did not get the test done their tell them your flight was leaving that afternoon and you would not have beeen there for the results etc. Whether you believe me or not M, this organism is a cotton fibre that is really an organism of some hybrid sort. It moves when dry yet comes to life after saturation in fluid. It accesses us via our hair folicles and can be clearly seen on my video at youtube.com/morgellons the one with 200,000 views. You have to fight them using their system against them, I used exactly the same ruse a month ago and was given every test under the sun, however at the time I did not know about Hydatoxi Lualba or the discovery of it back in 83 or the suggested blood test. the blood test is because normal blood stain tests do not show it as it is more plant like than animal it has low protein and the normal tests do not bond with the rna/dna, try staining a cotton fibre etc. nothing sticks. The websites where the professors reported their finds etc were reported in the NY Times at: www.nytimes.com/1983/02/08/science/the-doctor-s-world.html?&pagewanted=1#and further discussed at: www.nytimes.com/1983/05/31/science/is-a-worm-linked-to-pregnancy-ailment-new-study-doubts-it.html?scp=709&sq=Obstetrics&st=nytThe test used to identify them in human blood is the toulidine blue O stain test as the normal blood stain tests do not bond with the RNA/DNA as the organism is low protein see the website where the test is discussed at www.journals.elsevierhealth.com/periodicals/eurold/article/0028-2243(84)90073-X/abstractM you cannot give up, in any way shape or form. I do not know how I shall make it through the night but I must. Tomorrow I shall return to the hospital I went to a month ago and this time I hall tell them the symptoms persist. I shall also show them that video and tell them I shot it recently too. I shall tell them about the blood test too and inform them that I believe it is damaging my brain due to pain and the short term memory loss where I do not know what day it is and my thoughts get all confused. I hope to god they stumble on somethingas the recent tests done by my GP returned nil, even though the urine nad stool were loaded witht he organism. I really believe the failure to detect it is because it has the signature of plantlife not animal as explained earlier. If it is any consolation to you they are all probably infected too. Infected yet not yet affected. I found out the test for the disease is the hair root, if it is a healthy whitish translucent egg shape you are not infected if it is black distended and sticky, will stick to anything especially paper, then you are infected. My wife abnd kids and neighbour are infected yet remain unaffected as yet by morgelllons symptoms. Cotton fibre is so pervasive I think you will fid all of humanity are infected. The honey bee frequents the cotton plant for its nectar and they are all disappearing, especially around cotton fields. M, believe in yourself, you are better than the Doctors' ranged against you. Think of how you can use the system against them. Think laterally and you will come up with ways of getting treatment etc. Who knows they might stumble upon the cause of this disease. Sorry for the earlier boo hoo but I must caution you aginst self pity, it is the stepping stone to darker thoughts which I do not want you to have. M they have stuck me in psychiatric hospitals when I have been suffering the worst effects of morgellons, and when I cried out in pain doubled up in agony, they told me I was imagining it, I nebver lost my temper with them, even when they watched my videos and sat stony faced and told me it was a fibre and I was delusional, I never lost my temper. When my own wife, for years never believed me, I never lost my temper. When my family told me I was delusional and my sons laughed at me, I never lost my temper. Now all my family totally support me and are sorry for ever doubting me. Just to have them believe in me is worth all the suffering, because you know there may not be any treatment or cure for this disease and this is our cross to bear, the first of many. So we have to find an acceptance in our hearts that stands us in good stead when the times and suffering are really bad. I have my familys' support, I know they are there for me when it finally takes my mind and then body. Find your place of respite in those around you and remember there may never be a treatment or cure for this disease. Yours with thought and care Andy Coyle
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Post by andycoyle1 on Jul 6, 2010 16:28:47 GMT -5
Dear M
Sorry if I seemed to be inferring you were feeling self pity. I am quite insensitive in my choice of words, what I was really trying to say was something more important than that and from a concerned caring point of view.
However I feel I owe you an apology
I know you fight hard for everything, my point was lost in my choice of words.
I apologise
Andy Coyle
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Post by mfromcanada on Jul 7, 2010 0:08:01 GMT -5
Hi all, Andy and I are friends and for many of you who don't know me well, I just simply do not give up. I recently fought a bloody court battle against the behemoth HSBC. See my youtube site traitorsbeware. When you have nothing less to lose it makes you fearless. Although, I have days when I want the suffering to end, I always know there will be a better day ahead. Thanks again everyone.
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Post by dkushner on Jun 27, 2011 20:05:12 GMT -5
Hi M, I feel for you. I understand. I say that because we are in he same boat. I am planning to sue. I was mis-doagnosed as DOP within he first hree weeks of onset. When I attempted to see anoher doctorf for a second opinion, the first docor called the second doctor and he second docor was prepared with a psych med script when I arrived. He was not even inerested in hearing abou my symptoms
I have been trying to get help for eight years. I beleive I know whay is happening. The first doctor knew I had parasites at he onset but hey didn't go away after the second treatment so he decided to let me suffer wih them, I beleive because I got the infections by using contaminatted heroin. I think he thought that he infecions were horrible but not life threatening, bu he was wrong. I had all sorts of parasites from south america including trematode worm and now have neurological problems because of he lack of reatment even hough I knew wha it was within the first wo months due to unique symptoms. I didn'tt just have Morg, I have Morg plus many other serious infections.
I am going to sue the first three doctors that I saw. I do not know if I can get a lawyer to take the case hough, and I doubt hat I would win anyway due to he sort of things you are experiencing now. Do you have any advice?
Love you. Don't give up, here will be a lot of suits. Do you think the media can help? I'm also thinking hat my case, if I can get it going, might bring info about Morg to the public. It's ime, the doctors will never help us due to liability.
- Daniel
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Post by skylark99 on Jun 28, 2011 16:35:56 GMT -5
I am so sad and frustrated at how many of us are getting a run around!
I just caught my new doctor lying. You know the drill: fiddling with the pencil touching the nose and or face repeatedly not looking at you when talking or listening crooked smiles body slightly turned away during the whole visit. Pointing this out only resulted in being told that the visit was at an end. But I noticed that he was alarmed that I noticed all this and mentioned it.
All of this behavior was in exact opposition to the first visits of looking at the skin symptoms and the leap to hand me the specimen jar for collection of surface debris, the ordering of the usual useless blood workup. Of course, he had read through my files since the last visit. He was reading them when I went in this time.
What I noticed most about all this, aside from the lying indicators, was that he was really uncomfortable with his emotions, that he was feeing very insecure and and vulnerable. I think that he has actually spoken to someone, and has been pressured to do nothing, to maintain the status quo. Why, I do not know.
But I suspect, Daniel, that liability has something to do with my experience. SOMEone has made a mistake somewhere, and it is being covered up.
Maybe suing doctors individually isn't the answer. I thought that the cdc was supposed to protect the public health in the US, and the nhs likewise in the uk. Maybe these are who needs to be held accountable, after all, they issue instruction and guidelines to the medicos about how to treat and what to use. Maybe more results would be obtained by class-action. The media would love it, no effort on our part to get attention.
Still, all this added stress trying to get people to be accountable for their actions is more burden, emotionally, financially and physically. Not fair to put ill people through this. Strength in numbers, though. You people have been treated like sh!t, and that makes me really riled up.
We won't go away, we won't give up and we won't go down without a fight.
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Post by elizabeth67 on Jun 28, 2011 17:03:00 GMT -5
Amen.
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Post by simone on Jun 28, 2011 17:44:53 GMT -5
M from Canada... I am from Canada too. I have a naturopathic doc who believes in us totally and specializes in lyme. She has talked to many people like ginger and cindy and many others... She also knows a microbiologist who's studing morgellons in Canada... pm me.
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Post by simone on Jun 28, 2011 18:15:22 GMT -5
sorry I just read your post today.
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