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Post by bannanny on Jul 22, 2010 13:06:52 GMT -5
First off... Skiz suggested something to me to try and I've decided to order it. It's called ION MIN and sounds like something that would benefit us in a very good way. Here's the link if you're interested in looking into it too... www.californiaearthminerals.com/about/ion-min.phpThey even have it for animals, the soil, and to use in your bath... www.californiaearthminerals.com/store/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=ION-MIN%AE%3A+Natural%2C+Premium+Calcium+Bentonite+-+Montmorillonite&search_go.x=10&search_go.y=16Now I wanna post 2 more of Skiz's vids that I find truly amazing yet again... Notice the nematodes pizza? The slides of Morgellons artifacts came from Jan Smith's Webpage. I forgot to put that on the video. Notice that DUPONT is involved just like it was in WWII, with no conscience and no responsibility for consequences.Jan Smith has shared her's and other's graphic documentation of Morgellons with the world. Other artifacts may give clues as to who developed the research on each component. I would like to encourage everyone to keep their samples no matter how gross they may seem. They are important.Seems to me Skiz sure does know his/her stuff... which is why I have no hesitation at all in trying the ION MIN! love ya's ~~ bannanny
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Post by bannanny on Jul 31, 2010 10:32:30 GMT -5
Just wanna ask if it's only me who's really amazed by Skizitgesture's work?
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Post by toni on Jul 31, 2010 12:16:28 GMT -5
I don't want to be "brutally honest" if you know what I mean by that...but I do think that everything in how we see things, really depends upon the seat in which we sit. (our opinion) of what we perceive Morgs to be. (that's the nice way to put it). Maybe I'd of been better off to not say anything. But, feed back to your question is why I am. Some of us feel Morgs is parasites, some GMO, some chemtrails, some say aliens, warfare, and some say it's the end of the world as we know it...(I may have left some opinions out-sorry). I believe these "artifacts" as I have video'ed them too to be "greeting card glitter". Don't be mad okay? I'm being so boldly honest is all of "just my little opinion". The gooey stuff from "my video's of my glitter" I've picked off of cards is the silicone they use to adhere it to the card with. The layers of "my" glitter I've video'ed is "glitter comes in layers" so that it changes colors better. I've video'd that too. Now...here's also the facts about (these artifacts). I could be SO wrong in comparing my "greeting card glitter" to that of which you've found or any one else. It's only my opinion which is just that...nothing but my opinion. So...I'm "only" saying "they appear the same from what I've seen". But....I have NOT seen everything there is to see. So imho, it's (all of Morgellons) opinions are formed from each and every view from that of the viewer. And believe me, there's hardly a day go by that my thoughts too don't go to ALL the mentioned above (thoughts of what Morgs can be)...because this Morgellons is the weirdest thing EVER. And for all I know, it could be EVERYTHING mentioned from everyone's opinion. And if life were only that of "one" opinion, we'd never (mankind) wouldn't get any where. So opinions ARE what makes the world go round in one way or another. Objectionable views are that is - that enables us all to learn.
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Post by bannanny on Aug 2, 2010 13:05:47 GMT -5
Well... thanks for giving me your opinion tonio! I disagree with you cuz I don't see how something can begin to bulge and then emerge from within a piece of glitter... or expel the goo from within if it was only used to stick it on a piece of paper. But that's just my opinion too! I do however appreciate your honesty!
hugs ~~ bannanny
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Post by toni on Aug 2, 2010 15:35:52 GMT -5
And I appreciate your thoughts/opinion too Nanners. And there's nothing "personally personal" with opinions, just wanted to share "my experiences".
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Post by bannanny on Aug 3, 2010 12:31:25 GMT -5
Do you have any pics or videos of your "glitter" toni? I don't recall you posting any and I'm just curious as to what it is you have. Can you post them so I can see what it is you're referring to? Thanks!
hugs ~~ bannanny
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Post by toni on Aug 3, 2010 13:06:41 GMT -5
Tons of them. I'll be back with a couple. Thanks Nanner. And I know we might not agree on "some things" but that's okay, cause we'll keep trying together.
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Post by toni on Aug 3, 2010 13:15:46 GMT -5
These are having a slow start for some reason on Utube. If you scoot the (dial over a bit) the video will start.
These are very tiny, just barely the size of the tip of this sharp needle.
I just tried it again, it's working okay now. I'm adding a drop of water onto the slide so they don't flick off the slide.
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Post by ruth on Aug 4, 2010 11:07:12 GMT -5
hi nan, these are pics of my glitter and it looks like cystein clear hex it was hard to see as the M is utilizing the plastic of the glitter. i did videos where i would touch the glitter with a pin and it would change colors, until i realized it is just the M covering over and eating the glitter from the cards i work with. s192.photobucket.com/albums/z157/ruthlyons_2007/shapes%20of%20hex%20sparkles%20cubes/?action=view¤t=c1f03a2a.pbw&t=1280937585i have spent thousands of hours on artifacts and the glitter is always superficial not deep. i have not encountered a chip such as yours', but think with all the digging i have done, if it is a part of M, i would have captured it from my body.
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Post by bannanny on Aug 5, 2010 9:57:44 GMT -5
I remember that video toni... it's actually real glitter tho right? What I don't see in real glitter is the cross sections, the color changes, and structural changes occurring like they did in my crystal (or chip.) I don't see the hinges and layers either that were in chaosonline's and fighters either. Soooooooo... that right there shows a big difference in these things I call "chips" and actual glitter from a card or whatever. Then again, who knows? Maybe even glitter can become infected with this stuff... it sure wouldn't surprise me any!
hugs ~~ bannanny
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Post by bannanny on Aug 18, 2010 12:16:33 GMT -5
Are you talking actual real glitter Skiz?
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Post by kmarie on Aug 18, 2010 18:58:48 GMT -5
A very good article on Forensics Glitter and sources/variations:projects.nfstc.org/trace/docs/final/Blackledge_Glitter.pdfEXCERPT: d. Thickness. Glitter particles usually have at least three or more distinct layers. Even metallic glitter particles that consist of a single layer of aluminum will usually be coated on each side with a protective polymer layer. The world’s largest glitter manufacturer, Meadowbrook Inventions [www.meadowbrookinventions.com] claims on their website to have in excess of 20,000 different glitter products, and they offer glitter in at least 8 different thicknesses ranging from 15 microns all the way up to 175 microns. Using calibrated thickness standards, determine with your optical microscope what change in thickness occurs per 360° rotation of the fine focus adjustment. With an individual glitter particle lying flat on the stage, get the stage in sharp focus. Move over to the glitter particle and see how much of a rotation of the fine focus adjustment is required to bring the top of the glitter particle into sharp focus. Glitter particles often tend to stack like pancakes, so it is important that you are sure that you are only measuring the thickness of a single glitter particle. MORE ON THE LINK supplied ABOVE-------------------------------------------------- A couple years ago, I had contact with Bob Blackledge (the Retired Criminalist). On the link is his email address.................. Bannanny, IF I were you, (unless Dr. Stanniger has learned for certain what your speicmen was) ..... then I'd send this Glitter expert your "specimen" photo's/videos and see what he thinks. He will answer your email. I would NOT go into any theories and would not even mention Morgellons at all. Just send the pic/or video and ask if he will offer his professional opinion. He gives "lectures" and attends many "forensic evidence" seminars as an EXPERT Speaker on glitter which is found on victims skin/nails/hair, etc. and crimes have been solved based on glitter found on the victim or the criminal. He also has mentioned the changing of colors with various glitter from lighting. ( I'm not saying your "specimen" is glitter, .....just that nobody has been giving you any definitive answers and you have been trying to find out for a long time. ) He has solved crimes from finding glitter on or in the Skin or hair of criminals, then locating the manufacturer. Glitter is in Make up, hand lotions, and so many other products and not just greeting cards. That one company he mentions makes 20,000 different glitter products.
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Post by kmarie on Aug 18, 2010 19:27:08 GMT -5
Video: www.meadowbrookinventions.com/common/presentation/presentation.htmlWOW --------- they make special effect fibers too! Gosh, I do wonder what those "FIBERS" are made from that they offer? ----------------------------------------------- Below are only two samples of the various types of glitter they manufacture there. Not all glitter are made from Polyester. GLitter does seem to be made into a number of layers. High Chroma Silver: Precision cut 98% Reflective Glitter particles consisting of Polyethylene Naphthalate and Polymethyl Methacrylate designed for products requiring Mirror Reflectivity with No Aluminum Content. Micronic Jewels: Precision cut Ultra Thin Metallic Glitter particles pigmented polyethylene terephthalate, designed for applications requiring maximum brilliance with excellent fastness properties Solvent resistant. www.meadowbrookinventions.com/hiband/index.html
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Post by skizit on Aug 19, 2010 16:28:19 GMT -5
Do glitter manufacturers provide a flexible hinge for their four layer glitter? Do glitter manufacturers use soft lithography or holography to etch algorithm symbols on their glitter? The glitter theory should be provable if these two things are on any glitter products. The glitter theorist has the burden of proof.
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Post by ruth on Aug 20, 2010 11:28:17 GMT -5
nan, what part of your body did that machine come out?
i remember the video of it, bizarre.
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Post by bannanny on Aug 21, 2010 11:27:00 GMT -5
I yanked the thing out of my right arm ruth. I was sittin at my puter one day when I felt a sting... the sun was coming thru my window just right to where I saw what looked like glitter in my skin. I grabbed some tape and was fortunate enough to get it out without tearing it apart... which I believe is pretty hard to do with these things, unlike a normal piece of glitter.
But yeah... very bizarre litttle things indeed!
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Post by bessie on Aug 21, 2010 20:37:45 GMT -5
Skizit -
Whoever you may be, thank you for all of the work you are doing re: Morgellons. It is obvious that you are very smart and educated - and open-minded (unless you are one of us!). Please don't be discouraged if you are encountering obstacles; we need people like you to delve into this. One question, perhaps a dumb one. Is "real" glitter hexagonal? It seems all the M ones are. Maybe I'll buy a cheap card and take a look with a 200X magnification.
Bessie
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Post by bannanny on Aug 22, 2010 10:23:43 GMT -5
Skiz is a morgie too Bess...
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Post by toni on Aug 22, 2010 11:23:57 GMT -5
Bessie, All (card glitter isn't hexagonal) but a lot is. I just now scraped some sparklies off a b-day card. These just happen to be hex shaped. Skiz, Also, is this what you mean by the "hinge"? Please see video. My sparklies/glitter have silcone glue which is what sticks them to the cards. Just like our credit cards that come in the mail (that same type silicone drop) they use. tinypic.com/player.php?v=2ir2ng4&s=4
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Post by toni on Aug 22, 2010 11:33:11 GMT -5
Wow, my QX5 usually doesn't work at 200X - but I got it to go! tinypic.com/player.php?v=52z0c7&s=4One of mine has a scratch on it's face which can be seen well at the 200X. (beginning of this video) I then scope it at 10X magnification, then to 60X magnification. I scratched the glitter off my card with a needle, and I see how that can "deface the glitter surface now".
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