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Post by skizit on Aug 23, 2010 21:29:38 GMT -5
Barak: I looked at your videos. You have hydrogel/nanogel in your blood. In your video cross-linking is taking place. These are called entanglements. The hydrogel is a reactor and feeds the reaction. Some blood compatible hydrogels are poly(ethylene oxide), poly(vinyl alcohol), polyacrylamides, PNVP, PHEMA.
Polyvinyl alcohol has been extensively used in the biomedical field. Hydrogels are polymeric networks croslinked structures which exhibit the ability to swell in water or biological fluids and retain a significan fraction of water within its structure without dissolving. The biocompatibility of hydrogels is attributed to their ability to simulate the natural tissue due to their high water content and their special surface properties. Their low interfacial tension, high permeability to small molecules and soft and rubbery nature, make hydrogels well-suited for bio-materials. Their major disadvantage is their relatively low mechanical strength which can be overcome by cross-linking, by formation of interpenetrating networks, or by crystalization that induces crystallite formation which is what you see in your video.
This is a medical implant and illegal I would say unless you gave some hospital or doctor permission to implant hydrogel in your blood.
Skizit
Do you ever drink alcohol?
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Post by Baraka Obam on Aug 23, 2010 22:30:14 GMT -5
Like you said to me a picture is worth a thousand words , if this is such a common well known occurance show me the pictures, show me the reaction that has been captured by at least one other.
If I was to drink any at all, it would be very little, so, i do not think your quick assumtion is the perfect answer BUT neither will i discount what your saying as really i don't know shite from shineola when it come to chemical tec wording, guess I could look them all up, NOT!! LOL.
This reaction has been noted in journels from the 1800s in the blood, what has not been noted is the morphed reaction in the near pure yellow fluid that flows so well from a tormented lesion even when the blood has been stopped. If you look at some of the pictures there is HARDLY a blood cell there.
If your quick assumtion is the blood forms this I feel you are totally wrong as there is NO blood in some of the situations, only the yellow fluid that flows from lesions.
If you look closely this seems more like a chemical or electro chemical reaction.
I do not know but it is very interesting.
If my blood has turned to synthetic blood that carries a good amount of oxygen then I am a medical miricle and could be worth billions, every war needs blood and from the look of the way mankind is going synthetic blood may well be the best kind...............................................Wait a minute I lost all my money on the company that was making fake blood before Iraq what a bummer I listened to someone else, ha ha ha ha ha.
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Post by skizit on Aug 23, 2010 23:42:57 GMT -5
You have some exceptional evidence and I haven't seen any other videos on the internet. You have captured the entanglements forming in polymerization. In fact, I would like to use the one creating the polymer network in a comprehensive video about Morgellons to help people understand what they are dealing with. People just don't know what it is. They know nothing about polymer. There is a website simple enough to understand. If you read it you will understand more. pslc.ws/macrog/kidsmac/kfloor2.htmAnyone who has Morgellons has hydrogel in them. The fact that there are no blood cells in your blood sample is evidence that hydrogel has been infused in your body fluids. I'm wondering what your blood cells look like. All the material I see is the result of hydrogel synthesis, including the little crystals. It is no wonder you are not well. I have not done a video on just hydrogels, but I have included the construction of polymer networks. I think one just on hydrogels would be very helpful. Some of them contain DNA but I am hesitant to say a particular one has DNA. When I first got Morgellons, I knew what the hydrogel was and how it is formulated. I countered it by having a strong mixed drink for a week, keeping alcohol in my system. Hydrogels are designed to exist in water and are biocompatible with the body. Alcohol is not. I did not assume you drink, I asked if you did. I am saying that having a strong alcoholic drink several days in a row may disable the hydrogel system. i would like to understand the yellow fluid, as I do not have any symptoms any more and never had any serious ones. As soon as I thought I might be getting it, I starting trying to eliminate the man-made materials from my body. My assumption is not that the blood forms the networks. The blood does not make polymer networks. Crosslinking is a part of hydrogels to provide strength. Some systems create solid polymer. The kind that is used for tissue engineering and implants is soft. The polymer materials form these networks, the blood components do not. Your blood has incorporated these materials and they self-assemble and self-organize. Do you have pictures of the yellow goo. Other people have told me about this. I have not had the complete picture of the yellow goo but will do some research and try to find out why that is involved. It may be a catalyst I don't know. I have pictures of yellow crystals from an ionic foot bath. I would like to include a description of this material in the comprehensive video and any other things you might suggest would be helpful to the community at large in understanding what is happending in the Morgellons patient's body. Any material donated to this effort will bear your name as author. I am so sorry for your pain and having to endure this torture. They have been illegally implanted in your body. In fact Morgellons is an implanted time release disease. Skiz
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Post by skizit on Aug 23, 2010 23:50:58 GMT -5
Barak: I forgot to tell you. These materials can be "photopolymerized" which means the lights of your scope probably provided the energy for these chemical reactions.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Aug 24, 2010 0:04:28 GMT -5
I believe it is the warmth of the light, not the light, the reason for my assumtion is, if a NATURAL disease were to need a trigger to multiply rapidly, it would be going from the donars warmth to cool then to recipiants heat again.
That is my feeling. This is not only what plagues me, as I said before this reaction was mentioned by a resercher in a 1800 book, he went on to say that it was much more prevelent in adults than children and never in newborns.
The idea of polymers is quick and easy but I do not really think it fits. if i could find again the papers I would let you read them, as it was a member of MDR that sent me the script.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Aug 24, 2010 0:27:07 GMT -5
you are assuming too many things without asking anything, and I am not trying to argue about anything but just get the facts to stay the facts of the matter and NOT a assumtion that totally changes the outcome of thought. your assumtion that there is no red blood cells in my blood is WRONG, There is a certain way to seperate the red blood cells, This way is to keep using hydrogen peroxide on a lesion UNTILL it is a dry white chemical burn, this literally shuts the red blood flow off, BUT the yellow fluid will flow right through, Now that is kind of strange, To assume your ideas are all knowing is to miss the point of research, how can you conclude results without asking questions, NOT ONE QUESTION, that is exactly what I said at the end of my second retort, it has me thinking all of your ideas are just assumtions based on little fact. Would you like to ask any questions, it may give you a better result. I had another person assume the reaction in one of the videos was metal because it was grey and chrome looking, the reaction actually happened inside a bubble, no matter what I said, i was wrong and they kept saying metal. This was not a perfect harvest of the fluid as I used the slide pressed onto the arm where it flows from, so did the seeds of the tubes come off the arm or from inside the are. I am pretty positive it was internal as my blood was drawn and still showed the reaction. You can perform the blood test yourself, just watch it turn black, look closely, they are tubes but minuture, if you get some fluid it will change and make more pronounced formes and then just literally change before your eyes if you can get pure yellow fluid. This same type of fluid forms at the corners of your mouth in winter when they crack open. This same sort of fluid forms the crystals in childrens eyes when the sandman come's to call. This can get bad for some children and litterally weld their eyes shut at night. For most it leave only crystals. Babys cradle cap has the SAME EXACT kind of yellow fluid also. Here is somthing to imagine that I have read about cronic fatigue, many here have had this and still have it. Read it it is interesting, yes it is. www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38822088/ns/health-more_health_news
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Post by Baraka Obam on Aug 24, 2010 6:32:27 GMT -5
I actually never said you assumed me a alcoholic, and I did answer that question with, no I hardly drink.
It is a fact that I now longer really give too much od a dam what people think of me, I know who I am, a man, not perfect but capable of many good outcomes, not a world beater but more a common man, money and power is not and never was my focus, conversation always remembered is worth more.
What assumtions I am refering to are, the fact that you think I have no red blood cells, when you can clearly see the red blood in the pictures from MDR site.
There are other assumtions before this that suggests you did not read well, or like many of us have brain fog some times, or in your haste of jubulation your mind will jump to prior conclusions.
If you ask me just a few questions other than those that would add to an assumtion, like the alcohol, maybe between us we could actually spark some brain cells back to life that have not been touched in awhile.
There is a problem with my retoric at times, it is not as clear as it should be, it is a fact i am no litterary giant or spelling bee contest winner, but I do try.
So I will when I get time read what you have sent me, just to see its attributes. I am interested in a few items you spoke about, still my focus is a natural body process advanced in some way that makes it a deadly, symbiotic, systemic, multi symptom disease
Virus, bacteria, mold, prions, development of fibrous material that makes its own fluid, that really is my focus but I am open to anything if it carries enough weight.
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Post by ruth on Aug 24, 2010 10:21:43 GMT -5
barack i wrote that wrong.
i see how long it takes to film M growth, it stops, and awhile longer another action, so i thought it would be better to do time lapse photography to speed it up, at least that is what i always wanted to do.
just letting you know i do not think your video is sped up.
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Post by skizit on Aug 24, 2010 19:56:45 GMT -5
Dear Barak: The alcoholic has not entered this discussion. I asked you if you "Do you ever drink alcohol". This is not an argument but everything you read is something you take offense at. So you hardly ever drink alcohol. That's your business. You can argue with yourself on that point and I won't mention that again Thank you.
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Post by skizit on Aug 24, 2010 20:10:11 GMT -5
Dear Barak: "To assume your ideas are all knowing is to miss the point of research," You said you did not look up words you don't know. You cannot research without reading. When reading you always find words you don't know. You will remain without answers. Get a lab to examine your blood. Its full of hydrogel or microgel.
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Post by skizit on Aug 24, 2010 20:28:50 GMT -5
Dear Barak: You have assumed that some disease in 2010 is related to some disease in 1800. There is no basis for that assumption. Please remember there are millions of natural polymers. Man-made polymers can act in a similar way. Polymers can be made to mimic viruses, bacteria and animals, including worms. Polymers can include hydrogels, drugs, crystals, metal ions, DNA, cross-linkers and other molecules. Scientists are creating new diseases all the time. Craig Ventner just made a new bacteria by creating DNA from a computer with 4 bottles of chemicals. It has already made a billion copies of itself.
Please see pH Triggered Fast-Responding DNA Hydrogel" The hydrogel can be switched to non-gel state in seconds. When the trigger is removed, the hydrogel returns to its previous state. Hydrogels are stimuli-responsive to pH, light/heat, peroxides and other chemicals. That is how probes are made. They respond to what they are engineered to respond to. Hydrogels are engineered to perform reversible deformation. That is why you see hydrogel and then you don't see hydrogel.
Denial of synthetic polymer will not make it go away.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Aug 24, 2010 21:57:27 GMT -5
My assumtion was based on his very articulate description of the reaction. My assumtion is that what this fellow saw with his old microscope was what we have mutated by antibiotic use in sex havens and then transfered around the world.
I am not denying your idea, not at all, your further explanation has me wanting to look into it.
I do have a very strong idea that this disease is natural, nothing is set in stone for me, nothing, mutated, regulated,morphed, biologicly advanced by accident or on purpose its all up in the air and your ideas sound resonable, the reaction has to be somthing.
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Post by skizit on Aug 24, 2010 23:33:48 GMT -5
Barak: I was looking for the information on the orange goo for another person. I believe the polymer you are describing is a temperature dependent one extensively studied because of its response to temperature change. It demonstrates an immediate transition from a hydrophilic (water loving) to a hydrophobic (water hating) structure at the temperature known as the lower critical solution temperature (LCST). This is due to the presence of the hydrophilic amide groups and the hydrophobic isopropyl group on its side chain. When the temperature is below LCST, the hydrophilic chains are hydrated and the hydrogel became swollen. As the temperature increases past LCST, the hydrophobic interaction becomes stronger, thus the balance between hydrophilic/hydrophobic interactions break down, causing the gel to collapse. This allows the solute to diffuse outside the gel.
The drippy stuff is probaby the solute. In this instance I am describing, it produces an orange substance.
The normal range of the LCST for PNIPAM is around 30-33 °C, which is close to 98.6 F.
PNIPAM tends to collapse when became highly swollen. The low mechanical strength problem is, then, overcome by the trapping the PNIPAM in a structure such as Polyacrylamide (PAM) to form semi-interpenetrating network, (semi-IPNs).
The semi-interpenetrating network is what you see arranging itself in the video.
This is creates stability and preserves the thermal- sensitive property. The hydrophobic structure in the PNIPAM plays a crucial role for the control of molecular release mechanism.
You obviously have a hydrogel which is sensitive to heat.
It would help to describe this to others for them to understand the heat response if you could get some pictures of the orange goo.
Skizit
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Post by skizit on Aug 24, 2010 23:48:13 GMT -5
Barak: I forgot to put the name of the polymer in my last comment. The polymer I was describing is Poly (Nisopropylacrylamide) (PNIPAM). The color is probably Orange II.
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Post by morghunter on Aug 25, 2010 1:55:29 GMT -5
Skizit, i don't know if the observations of my skin under influence of a black light bolsters your hypothesis but the orange definitely was on display every where under my dermis, especially my face. My arms,legs and torso were also glowing orange. Never did find out why. Probably too sick to look further. Electric shocks,painful stings,unseen bugs crawling can be rationalized but the overwhelming illness and total loss of energy accompanied with fear of slipping into the abyss is scariest of all. Skizit,bless you for trying to help us understand. You have my vote for a Pulitzer .morghunter
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Post by skizit on Aug 25, 2010 20:22:10 GMT -5
Dear Morghunter: If you have this hydrogel in your body cells, there may be a way to destroy the structures. In researching the degradation of hydrogels, the hydrolysis of the backbones and enzyme hydrolysis is the most promising possible destruction of the hydrogel.
Different enzymes act on different polymers. With the exact content of your hydrogel, the proper enzyme can be prescribed. The enzyme being tried at this moment by an unnamed person is horseradish enzyme. This person also has the orange hydrogel.
If you have a doctor, ask if he/she will test the fluid and find out the chemical composition of the hydrogel. I am going to try to come up with a degradation schedule so a particular enzyme can be prescribed. Without proper test, the enzyme choice cannot be safe and effective.
Enzymatic therapy is the answer I am quite sure. As soon as possible hopefully.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Aug 26, 2010 8:30:00 GMT -5
I do find what you say very interesting and I truly always look up all the tec words that lead to other finds that lead to more tec words. Yes it is alot of interesting stuff, biology, advanced disese, drugs, natuaral treatments, disease process, disease imagined cusease. The words and knowledge in all of these things will have us at best jack of all trades master of none. Alot of us know much more than natural healers, doctors, we are junior scientists, and well read in many emerging disese's. Who asked to be like this, none of us.
I want to live on top of a mountain, sit on a porch, enjoy my dog, work on my machinery and ride my motorcycle. I do not want to know any more about health. That is a fact.
Then again I must, still it is very interesting and I have been compromized by some vector disease that makes everything kinda iffy. Skizit You say hydrogel is a natural occurance as well as manufactured, then most likely it has taken place since the beginng of time.
You mentioned that a disease of the 1800's would not be the same vector disease as a disease of 2010.
I am sure this has advanced and adapted but as we are still the same humans that we were in the 1800's for the most part,LOL, the idea that it is the same affliction, of natural origin and advanced beyond the bodys ability to protect itself.
Can you imagine a SUPER STRAIN natural advanced body process, imagination will solve this riddle and the riddle will not be some fantastic sci fi movie, supernatural, alien result.
As it has been said many times Truth is stranger more fantastic than fiction!
The scientist, researcher, stated that the reaction did not take place in newborns blood, but as age increased so did this reaction.
Could this be because of the underskin hidden involvment (tumors) is greater in the aged.
This would be questionable if we consider just the yellow fluid to carry or make the tubular fiber development as babys craddle cap fluid is the same.
Do cradle cap babies have the same amount of involvment in their blood as the old people.
The resercher also said this reaction was also in the blood of animals to a certain degree.
The fluid that comes out is more of a yellow not orange, maybe people at large are seeing the blood and yellow fluid mixture as orange.
It is nowhere near orange when the hydrogen peroxide 35% stops the red blood cells from coming out.
I would really like to see under a microscope a newborns cradle cap fluid, also a sample of blood at the time the baby has cradlecap.
This fluid that flows from the babys scalp i have seen before it is the same sticky yellow goo that flows from the lesion, it would be interesting to keep an eye on the health of such afflicted babys.
What I would look for in the yellow fluid is the reaction I have caught on video, then also look at the blood to see if the blood reaction is there.
This fluid is the same that also flows from the corners of the mouth when you develope the spliting and drying of the skin in the corners of the mouth, this is also the same yellow fluid that affects childrens eyes as they sleep with yellow crystals. The common term is sand in the eyes, the sandman came to call.
The reactions are speeded up by the heat of my microscope light I am quite sure to use a mirror or low heat light source would show the difference in speeds.
Look into cradle cap, you may find somthing I have not about the production of this yellow fluid.
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Post by bannanny on Aug 26, 2010 15:34:28 GMT -5
Hmmmmm... I was given blood transfusions Karen, but it was about 15 yrs. ago, not 10. Sure would like to see what my blood looks like tho. I also wonder if something was implanted into my spine when I had my spinal surgery or during shoulder surgery... I have 4 steel anchors in my shoulder. It sure would be interesting to be able to actually see our insides these days, huh?
Hey Skiz... I wonder if the lights from my scope are what caused the reactions to take place on its base after the gel landed on it out of my finger? What you said about that made it make sense as far as what happened there.
Sure am looking forward to your enzyme therapy suggestions... you also have my vote for that Pulitzer!! Think I'll go buy me a bottle of whiskey now too... ha!
love ya's ~~ bannanny
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Post by skizit on Aug 27, 2010 4:56:34 GMT -5
Dear Barak: "You say hydrogel is a natural occurance as well as manufactured, then most likely it has taken place since the beginng of time."
I said that there are natural polymers. There are natural hydrogels too but I mentioned polymers. An example of natural polymers are starches. Starches have a particular enzyme that breaks them down. Cellulose in plants is a polymer. Lignin, chitin, DNA, RNA are polymers. These are the polymers I was talking about, not hydrogels. Hydrogels, nanogels, aerogels are man-made composites.
Polyethylene glycol-Polyethylenimine (PEG-PEI) is the nanogel that is used for gene therapy, cancer treatment and other drug deliveries. It is a highly fluorescent nanogel thermometer which makes it possible to measure temperature to within 0.5 within cells.
Cells absorb water when colder and squeezes the water out as its internal temperature rises; the relative quantity of water masks or exposes the fluorescenses of the nanogel.
It can also be used to stop bleeding. This type uses protein molecules which self-assemble on the nanoscale into a biodegradable gel.
The gels that are yellow, orange, and red are the ones people are seeing seeping out of the skin, especially when it changes temperature as in an ionic foot bath.
I believe it can also cross the blood brain barrier which means Alzheimers may be implanted with nanogels as well but that is my suspicion, for further study.
Skizit
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Post by Baraka Obam on Aug 27, 2010 8:48:05 GMT -5
I like being a dear, thanks. I have looked to make sure, there are NATURAL HYGROGELS as well as synthetic, here is the proof www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/09/090917111629.htmNatural hydrogel materials are being investigated for tissue engineering; these materials include agarose, methylcellulose, hyaluronan, and other naturally derived polymer Here is mans usual mode of learning, man finds natural occurance that baffles him, man TRYS to copy natural occurance, man fails at synthesizing but creates new product that works wonders for cleaning sinks. Man at best copies and adapts what god has made in the first place. The situations that man seems to harness are but the tip of the iceberg, there is so much more, time always proves this.
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