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Post by kitkat on Oct 11, 2010 12:58:26 GMT -5
Hi all. I've tried it all, olive oil, tea tree ear drops, and vics vapo rub on a q tip. Can any of you seasoned morgy's please tell me how to keep these things out of my ears? Thanks for your help, Kat
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Post by justhanginin on Oct 11, 2010 14:48:17 GMT -5
Campho-phenique in liquid form diluted with three parts olive oil worked for me. It last longer than Vick's and has slightly different ingredients. I used it a couple times a day just put it on a Q-tip and swabbed the ears canals. Ears are no longer an issue for me, but there was a time when they nearly drove me round the bend.
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Post by awareseattle on Oct 11, 2010 17:09:53 GMT -5
Hi Kat, I think you told me already but how do you know they are in your ears? Do you feel them in the ear canal? Have black specs coming out of them?
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Post by kitkat on Oct 11, 2010 17:24:21 GMT -5
I can feel them crawling in my ears and nose. Sometimes I will pull a black spec out with the q tip yes.
My cats are also shaking their heads and scratching their ears. They have both been checked for ear mites and it was negative.
So yes, I definitely know they are in my ears, and my kitty's ears too.
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Post by rhorn2006 on Oct 11, 2010 17:48:51 GMT -5
Campho-phenique in liquid form diluted with three parts olive oil worked for me. It last longer than Vick's and has slightly different ingredients. I used it a couple times a day just put it on a Q-tip and swabbed the ears canals. Ears are no longer an issue for me, but there was a time when they nearly drove me round the bend. I have not had this in my ears "yet",, but I have heard that the "Campho-phenique/olive oil" mixture works well for most people..
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Post by Baraka Obam on Oct 11, 2010 22:56:22 GMT -5
I use 35% hydrogen peroxide and have used it many times, it does bring relief, fast, on the spot, but depending on how bad the inner ear is involved it may tickle or it may hurt.
GRAPEFRUIY SEED EXTRACT works very well but most likely will come wiyh a pretty bad ear ache, or three. after the ear aches you will have no more problems but it should not be used all the time.
I am quite sure the ear ache is die off of some part of this.
Reaction with GSE is only in the beginning, after that there is no reaction, I have used GSE everywhere to eradicate this and manage it.
There was one spot where I could not hang in there, that was the mouth, the mouth was really hard to try and make it thru. I should have probably been more gentle then working with the scalp even, maybe I will try it again, it would be interesting to see just what happens, now that I am a bit smarter about application solution and speed of increasing the mixture
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Post by toni on Oct 12, 2010 9:16:10 GMT -5
heheh I'm chuckling Baraka, cause I'm really not trying to bug you with my "milk/yog" stuff. But those with ear problems, try mixing that together, 2% milk and plain yogurt - and swab that into your ears, making a nice thin coat. The itching will stop, the ears will dry and absorb that "forming biofilm that seems to express out of the pores" and it really is safe and cheap to "try". This morning (today) my Mr Toni (hubby) for the FIRST time had this most incredible "coating" all over his glasses! Bannanny, it is just like that 'substance that grew on your scope'. That hard clearish stuff that doesn't come off for nothing. Well..I ran his glasses under HOT HOT water, with soap. I scrubbed them with crunched up paper towels. The stuff was like SUPER GLUE spread out all over both those lenses, and it wasn't coming off. So...I got a glass of milk, and soaked them in it for a few minutes, and off it went!!! So...whatever (that protein) is (imho)...the milks protein caused it to adhere and made it ALL CRUMBLE RIGHT OFF. So...there ya go, what can I say. I don't get it, but that's exactly what just happened this morning.
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Post by kitkat on Oct 12, 2010 10:21:33 GMT -5
Wow! That's really interesting Toni! I wonder if milk baths will help this at all?
Anyone have any luck taking digestive enzymes in capsule form for this?
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Post by jeany on Oct 12, 2010 10:24:47 GMT -5
Could it be the lactic acid is causing this? If lactic acid can eat through teeth and cause caries and is able to remove soap scum then it probably can dissolve other substances too. It's also known as an anti-bacterial agent. Lactic acid belongs to the class of Alpha hydroxy acids which is often used in cosmetic skin products. For any topical compound, including AHA, it must penetrate into the skin where it can act on living cells. Bioavailability (influenced primarily by small molecular size) is one characteristic that is important in determining compound's ability to penetrate the top layer of the skin. AHA's have a profound effect on keratinization. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_hydroxy_aciden.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactic_acidI'm wondering if the keratinization process is what's causing the black specks to extrude from the scalp/skin, Toni? Jeany
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Post by kitkat on Oct 12, 2010 10:29:40 GMT -5
I think you are onto something Toni. I did read something about Lactic Acid and morgellons. I do use Alpha Hydroxy Acid cream for my face and have for years. Even more reason for me to continue.
Another building block for our research, thanks!
I think we need to focus on researching this together. We all need to bind together and find out as much as we can. Maybe we can start a "recent research" post to post our findings.
After all, it's up to us. Doctors are not going to help us.
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Post by jeany on Oct 12, 2010 10:54:44 GMT -5
But be careful Kat..it can cause skin irritations, redness and burning...haha..I know, too funny..but we don't want to ADD anything else on top of it all, right?
I'm currently looking at epidermal and dermal abnormalties and am seriously asking myself if there might be a connection in missing or disfunctional 'building blocks' of our skin and this disease.
I've noticed in one of your pictures Toni, where you showed us your finger tip, that your skin looks 'lose', kind of unattached to the other layers. No offense please Toni, just my observations.
You and many others have reported how for example the 'goo' simply dissolves into the skin which made me think that our natural skin barrier is possibly malfunctional due to missing keratin and collagen 'building blocks'. I've also noticed in someone's picture here who has shown us fibers coming out of the cuticle which IMO are keratin fibers and would therefor also pertain to this matter.
Just something I'm looking into a bit closer....
Jeany
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Post by kitkat on Oct 12, 2010 10:58:46 GMT -5
So then how would one take lactic acid internally? Just drink milk?
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Post by skizit on Oct 12, 2010 11:37:23 GMT -5
Hi guys, I'm wondering if anyone has pictures of the black specks coming out of your ears. I have several pictures of the specks which look absolutely like man-made "capsules" with a sphere and a thick fiber inside. The two I have looked at are semi-transparent with a black uneven flat pear-shape. They is may be a catalyst or an actuator or something else but I would like to see some more pictures if you have them of the ones that come out of the ears.
When I started getting symptoms I use alcohol in my ears and folded my earlobe into my ear to get it hot. If you hold it like that, it gets hot, maybe to a degree the bugs don't like. No harm done. No more bugs in the ears. They don't like alcohol and most morgies are susceptible to pH and temp.
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Post by kitkat on Oct 12, 2010 12:01:24 GMT -5
I just put colloidal silver in my ear, and I am hearing and feeling movement in there. Anyone else try this?
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Post by toni on Oct 12, 2010 12:56:45 GMT -5
Jeany, you're just as kind as they come! Jeany asked so kindly: I've noticed in one of your pictures Toni, where you showed us your finger tip, that your skin looks 'lose', kind of unattached to the other layers. No offense please Toni, just my observations. Toni says: Jeany, you're observant, and sweet. And I know EXACTLY what you mean, as my hands and fingers were going through a "cracking and peeling cycle" when I did that video.
What would happen is every two weeks (I first got the peeling red skin *under my arms/pits*) and I tried everything to rid that. Ketoconazole 2%, oh...all kinds of anti fungals, can't even think of them all. Fluocinolone, and everything else. Nothing worked.
Then I slapped Yog/milk mix under my arm pits, and it dried, and NEVER have had that problem again!
This "cycle" every two weeks (this red armpit-itis) was happening, till I used the "milk mix".
Then after the "armpit-itis" stuff left me for months, then my hands and fingers got all messed up (BUT... they too only got dried out and peely during the 2 wk cycle too!)
The video where my finger had that black thing in it, that you're referring to, yes, (no offense taken at all) cause they WERE in that morgs stage and it's odd, they don't do that anymore either.
I slept with gloves on and the mix, and ever since, have not had that problem with my hands and fingers. And that was going on for awhile too.
As for the "lactic acid part" (those articles on milk) I'd recently posted the links to the scientific studies being done - well...it's more than lactic in the milk that I see also that helps (morgs).
I've also used "lactic acid" and I didn't have any luck with it...but that's just me.
The "milk" with all it's properties (casein) is what I believe from what I've read and seen, has something to do with this "biofilm/substance/unknown gel" in making it soooo easy to remove.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CaseinIt's the protein to protein adhesion being caused. So whatever "this goo/gel stuff" is, it seems to be proteinaceous, because "milk proteins bind/adhere" to it causing it to release after it's absorbed it.
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Post by greta on Oct 13, 2010 7:27:28 GMT -5
Gross. Don't put food in your ears. Use a mixture of 1/2 peroxide and 1/2 alcohol. Pour some in with your head tilted to the side, wait a minute dump it in to a towel. The alcohol will help dry the peroxide out. Do it as often as you need to. It worked for me after a week or so of doing it. I feel your pain.
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Post by pdidit on Oct 13, 2010 10:16:39 GMT -5
Hi Kitkat and Toni and all
I went through a terrible time with my ears and many stages, so I do believe that whenever you are killing off things, 'they' will try to exit through your ears as well as try to enter when re-exposed; and generally speaking when i say 'they', it can mean a wide variety of airborne pathogens and / or bugs...imo, there is a GMO bug that now have DNA properties of a bug, fungus, bacteria and possibly acquired visiting a Genetically modified plant..just a hunch.
From my experience: these creatures love the ears...a safe haven to hatch and breed where you can't harm them [in the Eustachian tubes] They will come in and out and hence your crawling sensation. When i started to kill off and detox from these critters, my ears would swell terribly and then i would get ear aches and infections from swollen shut ears...it was then that i had to finally get antibiotic ear drops from the doctor to reduce swelling because it was so severe [neomycin,polymyxin B sulfates and hydrocortisone]. Hopefully you will not get to this point...but just in case if it ever does get this bad, the ear drops worked to reduce the swelling and allow healing because the antifungal and antibacterial medication was allowed to penetrate.
But you might just be able to avoid all this by prevention. I think if i had started on the milk/yogurt mix early on, i might not have had all the problems i have been through. So before going to great lengths of using alternating remedies and to make it less complicated, I would try Toni's yogurt / milk mixture first, if you don't have to go outside. I am trying this now and have found that it coats your ears/head and leaves a 'rock hard helmet' barrier that is hard to penetrate. More from my experience with this yogurt milk mix later in this post...
Regardless here is a list of things i can remember that helped me and others get through this..and bear with me, since i am having compooper problems, with the cursor and page jumping all over so hope this will be readable.
In between the milk/yogurt mix, when going out, you could do the following:
1. most of the essential oils that seem fairly consistent across the boards as to what helps stop crawling and keep them away from your ears are:
Peppermint and/or eucalyptus oils, recently i discovered Geranium and lavender mix, and menthol sprays --walgreen brand 16% pain spray--will help keep them away and from re-entering, but this must be applied periodically throughout the day since essential oil power lessens within a few hours.
2. YES! C. Silver and you can also mix this with hydrogen peroxide
3. Ear herbal remedies from Shoppers food Warehouse also sells a dropper bottle with ingredients of garlic oil, with willow bark [think this is for swelling]
4. Best so far that i have tried are the Ear drops from Walgreens in the section where they sell alternatives from different countries. I tried the one called Auralyst that has Carbamide peroxide, Camphor, eucalyptus oil, menthol.etc. it works really well for me.
other tried and true remedies but are more work to mix etc -- 5. Boric acid either powdered and used alone or dissolved in boiled water and mixed with h202; some have gotten relief from borax and h202, dissolved in hot water.
6. Some continue to use sulphur sublimed powder from the drugstore--might have to have the pharmacy order it or get it online. Many have found long term relief from mixing this with oils, shampoos etc. I found it relatively ineffective for me ? . I do however take MSM which is a sulphur for internal use, and always take this with vitamin C,
This following protocol kills this stuff off in layers and prevents more colonies forming; but here again, if you haven't had this infection for a long time, would try the yogurt mix first:
before learning about the milk yogurt mix, I as well as many others got relief [and peeled layers of biofilm/skin with eggs embedded], from using B. Peroxide from acne.org; this helped me kill and detox a lot of layers of skin where these critters were residing, because apparently the b. peroxide kills mites/bugs and presumably the fungus under the epidermis. It helps penetrate through tough layers of skin. Warning though...dependent upon how infected you are, your skin will turn red, it will burn and this will eventually cause a lot of peeling. Each layer that is peeled off though, will be one more step to recovery. Might add too that while this worked for a while for me and helped me to shed layers of this gunk off, it later stopped being effective and i cannot explain that one either...
ok, while the following is addressing more than just the ear problems--because i have been battling this in my head/scalp/hair/ears for almost 2 two years now-- it still might be helpful to hear what my experience has been with the yogurt /milk mixture:
like i said, it leaves a rock hard barrier, and all crawling stops when it dries. But since my hair / scalp has been so infected, after washing it out, it does not leave my hair soft and silky, but rather matted down like a ruined dry wig, with a spongy texture with which i can't even get a comb through. But i am assuming this is because my hair is also in such bad condition, and is still not really my 'hair' yet...so this will take a while to restore it to normalcy, like Toni's hair.
While the following routine might seem over the top, it is working consistently!!! With time, i am assuming this will be simplified and/ or not necessary:
I have tried just a regular shampoo and creme rinse, but at my level of infection, this only attracts more things and doesn't stop any crawling. I have tried everything...just shampooing and combing out my hair after the yogurt mix doesn't work yet for me either and like i said, i am assuming this will just take time.
So what i have done that works for me is to wash out the yogurt mix with a shampoo mixed with other things, like silver and fungi cure [because i think the milk mix draws out and traps the pathogens but can't say for sure that it kills them, hence the antibacterial, antifungal mix] I also add this 'veggie wash' that you buy at the grocery market to wash off vegetables [gse, citrus ingredients] and this dissolves everything very well and stops any crawling sensation. [Actually use this as a spray if i do get any crawling now during the day when i am out--stops things in their tracks and is soothing. I have also added silver to this mix for an even more powerful one-two punch. NOTE: if you try the veggie wash, DO NOT GET this in your eyes!! This has happened when i poured some over my head and my eyes were 'cloudy' visioned for several hours.]
So after washing and rinsing hair out, while i am in the shower, i then add a handful of Noxema [read noxema's ingredients with eucalyptus] and massage this into my hair. I leave this on while i am dressing, then comb out spraying the comb with the veggie wash until you can't see the noxema anymore. When i add this step with the noxema and veggie wash, it is the only thing i have found that helps the debris slide off of my hair/scalp easily onto the comb, leaving my hair soft...along with the yogurt mix, this also has been helping to heal any exit wounds.
The final step before going out is the take a few drops of peppermint and/or eucalyptus / or geranium oils and rub this through my hair...light on the eucalyptus and geranium for obvious reasons --it stinks. This has left my hair soft and there is very little activity, with each day getting better and better!!!
SO I ATTRIBUTE THIS SUCCESS TO TONI'S YOGURT /MILK MIXTURE...THANK YOU SO MUCH TONI!!!
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Post by morgellonsmoe1 on Oct 13, 2010 14:03:20 GMT -5
Ive tried it all , the cheep store brand athletes foot spray ( NON powder ) just spray it into the ear thats crawling.. I have squirted hand sanitizer in them and it works ,the crystal would drip out and Monist ate ( for yeast infections ) dab a bit in the ear .. anything Anti fugal if used religiously will get rid of them and just keep that stuff on hand case you get a stray crawler
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Post by kitkat on Oct 13, 2010 15:56:53 GMT -5
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Post by bannanny on Oct 14, 2010 14:02:43 GMT -5
Yeah... lots of great info here. I've found the peroxide and alcohol to work best for me too. If nothing else... I love the sizzling sound from the peroxide cuz it feels like it's just gotta be breaking the stuff up in there along with our normal (or should I say abnormal) ear wax! Mine never do stop sizzling.. so there must be layers upon layers of this stuff in there just like it is in my scalp and skin nowadays. I sure hope one day someone will tell us exactly what this morg mess is and then tell us what's gonna work to break it up and dissolve it away. Sure not spending my days waiting for that one tho.
big hugs ~~ bannanny
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