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Post by toni on Mar 21, 2011 19:01:13 GMT -5
How strange is this? Remember when Godog sent me that tree frog that was bound by multicolored fibers back in 2008? Well, that frog had these odd tiny feathers wrapped around it also. Then today, I was scoping and taking pictures of some specimens Sidney sent me, and amongst the specimens that came out of her skin, were the same looking (feathery) specimens as Godogs frog had back in 2008. Both pictures at 60X magnification.
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Post by toni on Mar 21, 2011 19:52:16 GMT -5
I wonder if it could be Dandelions (puff balls)?? What do you think?
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Post by toni on Mar 21, 2011 20:08:45 GMT -5
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Post by toni on Mar 21, 2011 20:24:08 GMT -5
This appendage on this dandelion is called the Pappus hairs. 1.The hairy or feathery appendage of the achenes of thistles, dandelions, and most other plants of the order Compositæ; also, the scales, awns, or bristles which represent the calyx in other plants of the same order. www.wordnik.com/words/pappus
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Post by itchin4answers on Mar 22, 2011 3:07:47 GMT -5
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Post by toni on Mar 22, 2011 8:01:39 GMT -5
Thanks Itchin for your picture of your (feather looking) specimen too. I'll add it to the others, because yours sure does look the same too. Wonder what these "feathery" like specimens are that all look extremely alike from 2 different people and a frog. I'm just throwing ideas out here with the dandelion puff ball things, but who knows? Any ideas, because I sure don't know.
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Post by morghunter on Mar 22, 2011 11:21:13 GMT -5
Hi Toni! Please check your P.M.,morghunter
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Post by toni on Mar 22, 2011 13:12:10 GMT -5
Got it and thanks for your help Morghunter.
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Post by bannanny on Mar 22, 2011 14:55:36 GMT -5
Look like morg strands branching off from the main one to me... and starting to create that morg network! I've got some similar ones in all my pics too toni.
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Post by skizit on Mar 26, 2011 16:01:45 GMT -5
Hey Guys, I researched these and put the results in a video. These are polymer brushes which are self-assembling. If they have various things in the little bundles along the feathery thingys, they are called Heilbron complexes.
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Post by toni on Mar 26, 2011 21:16:21 GMT -5
Skizit,
You got my curiosity going, and I wanted to read about that, the Heidelbron complexes, but I cannot find anything about this.
Can you help me with some links.
Thank you.
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Post by skizit on Mar 26, 2011 21:40:59 GMT -5
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Post by toni on Mar 27, 2011 8:41:47 GMT -5
Thanks for the link there.
It must be me, because I just can't find any info on this, only the "term" being used about the person "Heilbron".
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Post by ginna898 on Mar 27, 2011 9:02:05 GMT -5
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Post by ginna898 on Mar 27, 2011 9:04:39 GMT -5
Crystal structures are reported for the molecular complexes ofE,E-1-[p-dimethylaminophenyl]-5-[o-hydroxyphenyl]-penta-1,4-dien-3-one (DHDK) with chloroform,m-dinitrobenzene andp-dimethylaminobenzaldehyde. The three complexes (first reported by I. M. Heilbron and J. S. Buck [1] in 1921) have different structures. In DHDK·0.4 CHCl3 (triclinic,a=12.086(6),b=10.323(5),c=8.015(4) Å, 1(assumed)), the host molecules are linked by two hydroxyl carbonyl hydrogen bonds to form centrosymmetric pairs, with the disordered CHCl3 molecules contained in cavities left between the molecule pairs. The complex is a clathrate. In DHDK·m-dinitrobenzene (triclinic,a=21.787(9),b-13.850(5),c=7.759(4) Å, 1 ,Z=4) the DHDK molecules are linked in ribbons through head-to-waist hydroxyl-carbonyl hydrogen bonds. www.springerlink.com/content/p61080r28w11l172/
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Post by toni on Mar 27, 2011 9:49:45 GMT -5
Yes, I saw that, and thank you.
I just don't see any connection. I'm sorry.
I just see this as "a discovery like anything else is learned" about "something".
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Post by ginna898 on Mar 27, 2011 10:30:02 GMT -5
Your welcome!
I understood your posting saying that you could only find information about Heilbron the "person" and not anything about the Heilbron complexes/scientific information.
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Post by toni on Mar 27, 2011 10:37:13 GMT -5
I appreciate that Ginna898, that was nice of you to help.
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Post by kammy on Mar 27, 2011 10:40:50 GMT -5
Very well done, Skiz - you're probably right on. I noticed the mention of 'brushes' and yesterday saw where all the plastic-like brushes we're using contain the formation of pigmented filaments which is basically what's inside of us... I see how some burn and others don't as we have noticed: This is from a post I made yesterday: Search - 'formation pigmented filament' www.google.de/#hl=de&source=hp&q=formation+pigmented+filament&btnG=Google-Suche&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=formation+pigmented+filament&fp=652c36f327b83d8eStructure formation in polymeric fibers Page 49 tinyurl.com/4gfwlhj"Nucleating agents lowered the tensile strength of the spun filaments. Tensile strength increased slightly with the addition of ethelene... PET filaments? - Trade name: Polyester (PET) Filament Yarns It's in a lot of products, mostly brushes, brooms, pet leashes and collars, adhesive tapes, etc... www.alibaba.com/showroom/pet-filament.htmlPolyarylate - Page 65 www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/1551196/polyarylategltrs.grc.nasa.gov/reports/2002/TM-2002-211382.pdf"The selection of the proper polymer dielectric for a desired application depends on the requirements and the operating conditions of the system, The key fundamental requirements are electrical., mechanical, thermal, chemical, and environmental." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DielectricBack to Page 65 tinyurl.com/4gfwlhj"The fiber forming properties of PEN have recently been studied..." PEN? - "Basic Principles of PEN Fiber Production — PEN, a new generation polymer, is a high performance member of the polyester family. Its unique chemical structure renders it useful for fibers, packaging and films. PEN has a modulus* that is five times that of nylon, two-and-a-half times that of polyester, and double that of rayon."
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Post by kammy on Mar 27, 2011 10:43:26 GMT -5
Which lead into looking at: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyester"Polyester is a category of polymers which contain the ester functional group in their main chain. Although there are many polyesters, the term "polyester" as a specific material most commonly refers to polyethylene terephthalate (PET). Polyesters include naturally-occurring chemicals, such as in the cutin of plant cuticles, as well as synthetics through step-growth polymerization such as polycarbonate and polybutyrate. Natural polyesters and a few synthetic ones are biodegradable, but most synthetic polyesters are not. Depending on the chemical structure polyester can be a thermoplastic or thermoset, however the most common polyesters are thermoplastics.[1] Polyesters are also used to make "plastic" bottles, films, tarpaulin, canoes, liquid crystal displays, holograms, filters, dielectric film for capacitors, film insulation for wire and insulating tapes. Liquid crystalline polyesters are among the first industrially-used liquid crystal polymers. They are used for their mechanical properties and heat-resistance. These traits are also important in their application as an abradable seal in jet engines. Basics Polyester is a synthetic polymer made of purified terephthalic acid (PTA) or its dimethyl ester dimethyl terephthalate (DMT) and monoethylene glycol (MEG). With 18% market share of all plastic materials produced, it ranges third after polyethylene (33.5%) and polypropylene (19.5%). To make a polymer of high molecular weight a catalyst is needed. The most common catalyst is antimony trioxide (or antimony tri acetate): Raw material producer The raw materials PTA, DMT, and MEG are mainly produced by large chemical companies which are sometimes integrated down to the crude oil refinery where p-Xylene is the base material to produce PTA and liquefied petroleum gas (LPG) is the base material to produce MEG. Large PTA producers are for instance BP, Reliance, Sinopec, SK-Chemicals, Mitsui, and Eastman Chemicals. MEG production is in the hand of about 10 global players which are headed by MEGlobal a JV of DOW and PIC Kuweit followed by Sabic. Besides the above mentioned large processing units to produce staple fiber or yarns, there are ten thousands of small and very small processing plants, so that one can estimate that polyester is processed and recycled in more than 10 000 plants around the globe. This is without counting all the companies involved in the supply industry, beginning with engineering and processing machines and ending with special additives, stabilizers and colors. This is a gigantic industry complex and it is still growing by 4–8% per annum, depending on the world region. Useful information about the polyester industry can be found under [2] where a “Who is Producing What in the Polyester Industry” is gradually being developed. Health effects A study published in 1993 found that polyester underwear reduced sperm count and sperm motility in male dogs.[3] Similar studies have shown similar results in humans and rats. The cause is not known but is believed to be due to an electrostatic field created by the fabric.[4]" ** Which puts us back to Mr. R & D again... (research and development...)
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