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Post by toni on May 12, 2011 8:48:17 GMT -5
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Post by xiblanque on May 12, 2011 10:58:04 GMT -5
You know, I'm curious as to how many Morgies originally thought they were being attacked by bedbugs or birdmites only to NEVER find any real evidence of bugs or mites. That is my story. It was horrible enough to think that I had bugs, mites or lice. Morgellons was unknown to me and unthinkable. It is strange and a bit convenient that bedbugs are carring MRSA, I have often thought that any thing that bites may carry disease, especially something that bites one person or animal then bites another. However, it seems very strange that suddenly MRSA is being connected to formication (the sensation of crawling/biting bugs on the skin). I remember in the last town I lived in watching a news report on bedbugs affecting a whole apartment complex. I did not live there but I was dealing with my own issues and was finding out about Morgellons. Many people that lived there had lesions and rashes most complained about the crawling/biting sensations. Was that due to bedbugs, MRSA or Morgellons? I had my own thoughts on that of course. I even had hired an exterminator in my area to treat for bugs. I had scheduling conflicts with him because he was so busy treating similar problems, including the apartment complex and the local university dorms... he said people were complaining about bugs that he couldn't find... normally the bugs were evident from scat or blood spots on the sheets/mattresses or even being captured and presented. Not many of the other jobs had such evidence. Anyone ever see the bedbugs that bit them? Xib
ps... I had the exterminator come back after the first treatment. That was a few weeks later... I had "taped" a few of the white granules by then and showed them to him... He said "Why that is so small you can't even see it". hmmmmm..........
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Post by Lynn on May 12, 2011 16:21:32 GMT -5
Xib
Could you find or provide a link to the article about the apartment people. Would love to have a link. I had a flea problem. The day I killed our last flea and that was a two year battle. Some bug with hooks for legs covered me head to toe and soon after many other types of bugs. Now I am back down to just the hooky crawler at low levels. No longer covered head to toe. I truely believe I came down with a toxic syndrom over a long period of time. My chronic fatigue being one of the big indicators. Than Morgellons set in along with the bug infestation. I had went through small periods of time of attracting bugs. Spiders one year, Nats another year, Mosquitos, and even wasp right before the outbreak of the hooky crawlers.
In Light Lynn
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Post by xiblanque on May 12, 2011 18:06:42 GMT -5
Hi Lynn, the article was a news story on Fox. Here is a link that has a story on the bedbug infestation. www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/news/local/052709_APT_Complex_Fight_Bed_Bug_Problem There are ongoing issues with BB's apparently. www.kvue.com/news/local/Bed-Bugs-found-at-Austin-Energy-113035009.htmlThe exterminator I used was Arthur Bell, who also had contracts with the university there. excerpt from above post... Exterminators say that bed bugs are on the rise in Central Texas. They were found at North Austin’s Pecan Hills Apartments in January, as well as a Northwest Austin apartment complex in July.
East Austin’s Kill-A-Bug has been receiving more bed bug calls than ever.
“An area of concern would be where you have individuals in low income housing or low-income conditions where people on a frequent basis are coming and going,” exterminator Arthur Bell said.Arthur Bell sprayed permithrin at my place which had little or no effect on the issues I was dealing with. Xib
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Post by itchin4answers on May 12, 2011 18:10:11 GMT -5
Thank you for the news link toni. I was doing some reading & found some interesting links. Many may have already seen these, but in case you haven't here they are; Not the usual suspects: Human wound myiasis by phoridsesa.confex.com/esa/2006/techprogram/paper_27310.htmSuspected intestinal myiasis due to Dryomyza formosa in a Japanese schizophrenic patient with symptoms of delusional parasitosis.www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11129713Delusions of Parasitosis Clinical PresentationHistoryPatients must be queried about their symptoms, the duration of symptoms, and their belief about the etiology. Notably, Goddard[11] has described a seasonality to delusions of parasitosis, and Vila-Rodriguez et al discuss the facilitation of delusions of parasitosis resulting from Internet-based dissemination of the condition.[12] The diagnosis and treatment of delusions of parasitosis can be an involved clinical activity. Patients with delusions of parasitosis can resist suggestions that their condition is psychiatric rather than physical and refuse referrals for psychiatric care. In fact, in 35% of patients, the belief of infestation is unshakable.[13] In approximately 12% of patients, the delusion of infestation is shared by a significant other. This phenomenon is known as folie à deux (eg, craziness for 2) or folie partagé (ie, shared delusions). Variations in this are the conviction that a child, a spouse, or a pet is infested. The condition of delusions of parasitosis is a monosymptomatic psychosis, a type of psychopathology relatively distinct from the remainder of the personality. If the condition has a defined pathologic or external cause (eg, scabies), it is not truly delusions of parasitosis. In investigating the history of a patient with such suspected delusions, other causes of itch must be investigated. To diagnose this condition, true infestations (eg, scabies), pediculosis, and primary systemic causes of pruritus must be excluded.[14] Examples include hepatitis, HIV infection, dermatitis herpetiformis, thyroid disease, anemia, renal dysfunction, neurologic dysfunction, and lymphoma. Delusions of parasitosis are distinct from formication. Formication involves the cutaneous sensation of crawling, biting, and stinging. Formication does not involve the fixed conception that skin sensations are induced by parasites. Patients with this condition can accept proof that they do not have an infestation. Many cases of formication remain idiopathic. The diagnosis of delusions of parasitosis should be made carefully. Iatrogenic delusional parasitosis, a case of physician-patient folie a deux, has been noted in which a physician made the diagnosis of delusions of parasitosis that was then carried in the medical record, although the patient in fact did not have delusions of parasitosis or actual infestation.[15]emedicine.medscape.com/article/1121818-clinical
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Post by simone on May 12, 2011 22:16:38 GMT -5
All I know is when I got M. I was in a hotel rm on business. That week I got bit by a bed bug.. it was very sore to even lightly rub my finger across skin. Yes, I believe if they bit you, they can spread anything...insects like mosquitoes, spiders, ticks...etc. I've read somewhere that I'm not the only one who believes that they got M though bed bug bites. Think about it, if they bit an infected person and come back and bit another new victim, bacteria, anything. Yikes!!! C'est la vie
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Post by xiblanque on May 14, 2011 12:02:38 GMT -5
This article from L.A. Times seems to make a 180 degree turn from what we've been told time and time again. Seems to validate what some of us have been saying for years now. I found this excerpt interesting.... slightly better than D.O.P. “Sometimes, if the bite reactions are intensely pruritic, scratching with excoriations may be complicated by impetigo."Xib www.latimes.com/health/boostershots/la-heb-bedbug-disease-20110512%2C0%2C2735362.storyBedbugs may carry MRSA and other diseases, but do they spread them? Don't panic yetBy Marissa Cevallos, HealthKey / For the Booster Shots blog May 12, 2011, 10:25 a.m. Not only can bedbugs harbor MRSA, they could potentially, just maybe, spread the drug-resistant bacteria, researchers – and resulting headlines — are speculating. The thought is a scary one, but not much different than what we already knew about the threat from these generally nocturnal parasites. It’s certainly plausible that a blood-sucking bug can spread blood-transmitted diseases, but scientists haven’t found much evidence they do so. Here’s the low-down on what’s known on bedbugs and disease. The Entomology Department at Purdue University says this: "At least 27 agents of human disease have been found in bed bugs, including viruses, bacteria, protozoa, and parasitic worms. None of these agents reproduce or multiply within bed bugs, and very few survive for any length of time inside a bed bug. There is no evidence that bed bugs are involved in the transmission (via bite or infected feces) of any disease agent, including hepatitis B virus and HIV, the virus that causes AIDS. " Again, there’s that “no evidence” of disease transmission—just the plausibility. A report in the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention journal Emerging Infectious Diseases in 2005 has this to say about bedbugs and disease transmission: “Although bed bugs could theoretically act as a disease vector, as is the case with body lice, which transmit Bartonella quintana (the causal agent of trench fever) among homeless persons, bed bugs have never been shown to transmit disease in vivo. Hepatitis B viral DNA can be detected in bed bugs up to 6 weeks after they feed on infectious blood, but no transmission of hepatitis B infection was found in a chimpanzee model. Transmission of hepatitis C is unlikely, since hepatitis C viral RNA is not detectable in bed bugs after an infectious blood meal. Live HIV can be recovered from bed bugs up to 1 hour after they feed on infected blood, but no epidemiologic evidence for HIV transmission by this route exists.” An article from Medscape echoes that HIV spread is unlikely but that anaphylaxis, a severe allergic reaction, has been documented. And the article raises the possibility of itchy (“pruritic”) bug bites becoming infected: “Sometimes, if the bite reactions are intensely pruritic, scratching with excoriations may be complicated by impetigo." Impetigo is a skin infection caused by strep or staph bacteria—and that includes MRSA, according to PubMed Health. That’s the hypothetical situation—scratching a bug bite that leaves the skin vulnerable to infection by MRSA—researchers suggested this week. That's not to say researchers aren't still working on trying to quantify the potential threat of bedbugs. A clinical trial is underway in France. But again, the threat remains largely theoretical. Interesting, but theoretical.
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Post by bannanny on May 14, 2011 15:08:55 GMT -5
With all the toxins in our environments and foods nowadays... it's not far fetched at all that every insect out there is just as contaminated with morgs as we are. I myself don't believe morgs is a bug of any kind... but I do believe bugs, animals and every living thing out there are all being infected by morgs in the same way we are. In other words, IMO morgs is morgs... and it's consuming everything on this planet. The biggest question I have is why it's only effecting some of us, while others still don't feel a thing. Course I'm very happy it isn't effecting everyone and everything like it is us... but becuz it's so incredibly intense I can't help but wonder why that is.
My heart hurts so bad tho for all of us who are feeling it... even for the tiniest of creatures who feel it too.
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