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Post by skizit on May 26, 2011 21:59:26 GMT -5
Do parents who have morgellons pass it to their newborn children?
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Post by snoozieblues on May 26, 2011 22:22:57 GMT -5
The future generation is going to have it literally embedded in their genome.
I believe people will start showing Lyme-like antibodies - this is one way to test for Morgs. If people who haven't been exposed to ticks start showing bands, it indicates a response to a pathogen in the population at large.
I'm sad for the world, too. Incredibly sad. But part of the issue is an inability to feel this sadness - there's an override on the capacity to process emotions in the same way. I think it's a defense mechanism - if the brain were to feel the impact of these toxins, it wouldn't be possible for us to withstand it. Same with the body. The problems occur when the body realizes what is going on - the lesions. If we could truly understand the impact of Morgs, it wouldn't be possible for us to go on living. Life as we know it has changed, and so have we.
It's abominable that children are being born into this world this way. I feel for them. Fibers have no business in the human body, much less innocents. We need to keep spreading awareness.
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Post by 2.99(plus~tax) on May 26, 2011 23:50:06 GMT -5
When my little one was 3 (now almost 7) we flew to OSU to have Wymore and Casey take a look at her skin with a dermatascope. They confirmed they saw fibers and then almost 2 years later Wymore casually mentioned they made a mistake. She didn't.
While the diagnosis was bittersweet, I still say mothers know their children the best. I'm not saying I believe the researchers at OSU or not, rather she is on the same protocol as I. Reason being, this thing we are dealing with is stealth, unforgiving, knows no prejudices, and if it is at ALL genetically predisposed, this mama hen is protecting her eggs and I'll be damned if a coyote is gettin' in to MY chicken coop.
If I had to place a bet though, my money is YES, children can be born with it.
just my 2cents.
~Ali
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Post by itchin4answers on May 27, 2011 1:21:05 GMT -5
When my little one was 3 (now almost 7) we flew to OSU to have Wymore and Casey take a look at her skin with a dermatascope. They confirmed they saw fibers and then almost 2 years later Wymore casually mentioned they made a mistake. She didn't. While the diagnosis was bittersweet, I still say mothers know their children the best. I'm not saying I believe the researchers at OSU or not, rather she is on the same protocol as I. Reason being, this thing we are dealing with is stealth, unforgiving, knows no prejudices, and if it is at ALL genetically predisposed, this mama hen is protecting her eggs and I'll be damned if a coyote is gettin' in to MY chicken coop. If I had to place a bet though, my money is YES, children can be born with it. just my 2cents. ~Ali Hi Ali, Can you tell me, if it's not too personal a question, what signs or symptoms have you noticed in Holly over the years? Great post by the way, I couldn't have said it better myself. Thanks - mama hen itchin
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Post by freaky on May 27, 2011 2:49:08 GMT -5
What could be done to a baby until it got lesions anyway?
They tested people compromised, & non, & both had fibers.
Also they tested pregnant women, & their babies, & non-compromised people? for the virus from GMO'd food, & the pregnant women, & their babies had the virus in their blood.
You guys don't want me to be intellectual, & give references do you? I think someone already posted this, or how would I know, give, or take, a possible mistake. ;D
Peace, & retaliation, freaky
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Post by freaky on May 27, 2011 2:52:13 GMT -5
I think maybe the un-compromised people may have had the virus in their blood too, although I don't remember that. I read it a few days ago. You all didn't think I ever read, didn't ya?
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Post by bannanny on May 27, 2011 13:38:34 GMT -5
I like to look at it this way... babies coming into this already infected world may just have a chance. That being becuz the body adapts at an early age... and learns more how to fight at the onset vs. something being thrown at us at a much later age. Does that make sense? I hope it does and I hope it's right... I'm also very happy to report that all 3 of the newborns I know and love are doing beautifully fine!
Positive thoughts guys... positive thoughts.
big hugs ~~ bannanny granny
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Post by itchin4answers on May 27, 2011 16:39:00 GMT -5
I like to look at it this way... babies coming into this already infected world may just have a chance. That being becuz the body adapts at an early age... and learns more how to fight at the onset vs. something being thrown at us at a much later age. Does that make sense? I hope it does and I hope it's right... I'm also very happy to report that all 3 of the newborns I know and love are doing beautifully fine! Positive thoughts guys... positive thoughts. big hugs ~~ bannanny granny Hi bannanny, when William was born I was still exhibiting a lot of nasty morg symptoms. Naturally my worry for my unborn child was immense. Mind you that didn't stop the doctors labeling me with DOP again! how crazy is that? a pregnant woman with DOP. I really like your slant on things. I try to tell myself the same, that being, this is the toxic sludge world that my son was born into & he & nature will some way adapt & cope. You really are an inspiration bannanny, especially to a mum who worries about her boy, thank you! - itchin.
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Post by freaky on May 28, 2011 4:36:25 GMT -5
Ah, skizit, that was truly a lovely thing to say about my brain cells, but I am fearful I may be subject to spongiform. Is that the word? Maybe sp. I have been reading more than usual, & I'm getting confused whether I went off on a limb, or someone in the group told us already, & I went & read their reference. I thought I'd get away with being goofy, but you ole silly caught me. I sure don't know how I know about spongiform either so please forgive my lack of reference. To the best of my recollection, I think it may be any of various degenerative diseases of the brain characterized by the development of porous sponge like lesions in brain tissue and by deterioration in neurological functioning; specifically : prion disease. That's right, because I was interested to know if I had prion disease, which is any of a group of spongiform encephalopathy's that are caused by prions and that include bovine spongiform encephalopathy, Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, kuru, scrapie, and variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease —called also transmissible spongiform encephalopathy. I dare say I must have looked this up today, as I don't presently have a pain management dr., & because I've been on narcotics for approximately 10 years, I need to get one soon. Most drs. now went about face, deny the facts regarding fms, and give sloppy drugs that make you a vegetable. I think I've found a good doc to interview, but it was necessary for me to review my disease. I believe with FMS, it is possible to get prions, which I'm not possitive about though, but I'd put money on the table, & say kammy knows, & has discussed in great lengths, prions, is that not right, kam kam? I'll go tell her to come here, & comment.
I'm sorry, I bet I've bored you guys to death. Fudge.
Well, anyway I did forget who was exactly tested in that last thing I discussed regarding GMO food, but definitely it was pregnant women, & their babies tested by blood. I believe it was in the news. Sorry folks. I'll do better next time. Anyway, it's true BELIEVE IT OR NOT, ha ha, they gots the virus & the GMOers are in a big ole pickle.
But, that's is quite enough my Dauling Skizit. No more flack. You have depressed me to no end, & I have spent the last half hour bawling my eyes with my morg lashes that stick out straight, & dirty up my glasses. Actually, it is not your fault Dearheart, but you didn't help any with what you had to say about the invasion of our non-organic body snatchers. My eyelids are full of mold, I believe, so no matter how many morgs, I have pulled out the last 7 years, they all go from my under eye to my eye lid, & how cute do you think I am? Well, I'd say it's just a whole $h**%load of $h**% I'm dealing with, like putting away my clean clothes, picking up my parasites, & these damn hot/cold flashes I've had for days now that change my body temp in the course of a minute. So now that it's almost morning, I guess I covered this. subject, & will close even if I didn't. ;D Nite all, love freaky
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Post by itchin4answers on May 28, 2011 6:02:20 GMT -5
Ah, skizit, that was truly a lovely thing to say about my brain cells, but I am fearful I may be subject to spongiform. Is that the word? Maybe sp. I have been reading more than usual, & I'm getting confused whether I went off on a limb, or someone in the group told us already, & I went & read their reference. I thought I'd get away with being goofy, but you ole silly caught me. I sure don't know how I know about spongiform either so please forgive my lack of reference. To the best of my recollection, I think it may be any of various degenerative diseases of the brain characterized by the development of porous sponge like lesions in brain tissue and by deterioration in neurological functioning; specifically : prion disease. That's right, because I was interested to know if I had prion disease, which is any of a group of spongiform encephalopathy's that are caused by prions and that include bovine spongiform encephalopathy, Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, kuru, scrapie, and variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease —called also transmissible spongiform encephalopathy. I dare say I must have looked this up today, as I don't presently have a pain management dr., & because I've been on narcotics for approximately 10 years, I need to get one soon. Most drs. now went about face, deny the facts regarding fms, and give sloppy drugs that make you a vegetable. I think I've found a good doc to interview, but it was necessary for me to review my disease. I believe with FMS, it is possible to get prions, which I'm not possitive about though, but I'd put money on the table, & say kammy knows, & has discussed in great lengths, prions, is that not right, kam kam? I'll go tell her to come here, & comment. I'm sorry, I bet I've bored you guys to death. Fudge. Well, anyway I did forget who was exactly tested in that last thing I discussed regarding GMO food, but definitely it was pregnant women, & their babies tested by blood. I believe it was in the news. Sorry folks. I'll do better next time. Anyway, it's true BELIEVE IT OR NOT, ha ha, they gots the virus & the GMOers are in a big ole pickle. But, that's is quite enough my Dauling Skizit. No more flack. You have depressed me to no end, & I have spent the last half hour bawling my eyes with my morg lashes that stick out straight, & dirty up my glasses. Actually, it is not your fault Dearheart, but you didn't help any with what you had to say about the invasion of our non-organic body snatchers. My eyelids are full of mold, I believe, so no matter how many morgs, I have pulled out the last 7 years, they all go from my under eye to my eye lid, & how cute do you think I am? Well, I'd say it's just a whole $h**%load of $h**% I'm dealing with, like putting away my clean clothes, picking up my parasites, & these damn hot/cold flashes I've had for days now that change my body temp in the course of a minute. So now that it's almost morning, I guess I covered this. subject, & will close even if I didn't. ;D Nite all, love freaky Hi Freaky, that was a great post & no you didn't bore me. I must tell you, I was speaking to sheredelight on the phone the other day & we were talking about YOU - we think you are fantastic, a riot (as we say in Aussie), meaning you are very funny & your posts are great. In fact, we both said "where would we both be without the folks on LB?" With regards to prions I was seeing a Doctor some years ago who said what I was suffering from was a prion disease & he also mentioned RNA. I was too brain dead at the time to understand & of course he didn't elaborate. Anyway, just wanted to let you know you really lift two Aussie chicks & for that we thank you. Love - itchin
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Post by ibzahp on May 29, 2011 0:17:53 GMT -5
I have trouble with spelling, motivation,finding words, frustration, apathy at times. The fatigue is marked. I grieve losing function. It does make it very hard financially.
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Post by bannanny on May 29, 2011 14:23:58 GMT -5
Well skizzie, transhumanism is definitely something to be sad about... but please try not to be. We're still human in my mind... and we can still feel love, and that right there is something to rejoice in my friend! So don't let it get you down... you're still you and I'm still me, and the same goes for everyone else here. We're strong, compassionate, kind, and we can beat just about anything! Just look at what we've accomplished so far! Now put a big smile on that face and know how very much I (we) love you!! Also, life shouldn't revolve around morgs... so take a break from all the hours of research you do and give yourself some time to relax and enjoy life. You deserve to feel some golden days and feel what's inside of you that counts! We're always here to just talk to ya know... not just here for morg talk alone ok?
I'm so happy I could inspire you in some way itchin... and it really is the way I feel. We can fight this... and even help our babies fight. But I still honestly believe they have a much better chance at it than we do! They're strong and resiliant... and just need our love to make it thru!
As for your comment on how cute you are now freakerdeekers... you're A DOLL! Remember I met you in person... so you can't tell me any different!! You're beautiful, funny, and the most silliest of people I know. You always make me smile... so yeah, you're nothin but a little cutie pie!! Don't you ever forget it either!
I can't say how much I love all of you ruth... and I wish I could make you feel happy inside too and not allow the depression to take over. But I can't... and I know it's not easy either. But just look at everything we've GAINED thru this mess... some very beautiful friendships and so much compassion for the human race too. We have a very special bond... and each one of you has made my life a better place to be, morgs or no morgs. I pray every night for every single one of you too... and now I'll pray extra hard for the depression to lift. We can do this guys... we can win with love. As corny as all that might sound... what really counts in this life is how we love. I think we've all accomplished that in a very incredible way too.
biggest hugs ~~ bannanny
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Post by sheredelight on May 29, 2011 19:41:42 GMT -5
I have trouble with spelling, motivation,finding words, frustration, apathy at times. The fatigue is marked. I grieve losing function. It does make it very hard financially. I agree that's all very frustrating, quality of life has gone out the window. Your not alone, i think the fatigue is very hard to handle. Maybe we should try an energy drink for stanima. I have to sleep every day, and have do so for many years now, and if i dont have a cat nap, i cant sleep at night, overtired, to the point that it takes strong pills to knock me out. I have mowed the law totaly exhausted many times, i just wonder how come i haven't droped like a rock......yet.....
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Post by ibzahp on May 29, 2011 22:04:22 GMT -5
shared delight ,i forgot to mention i also have insomnia and can,t sleep at night without meds. Anxiety and trouble sleeping is another symptom of lyme/bartonella, as well as morgellons.
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Post by freaky on May 30, 2011 1:09:02 GMT -5
FMS, too ibzahp. And oh yeah, we all must have our sleeping medication. I couldn't function at all without my downers. I'm serious, not making fun of you guys. Talk to you tomorrow. Been out of town. I'm falling asleep, & don't want to do my zzzz's on line tonight. Skizit, not to worry silly. I was crying before I read your post. It sounds like we're all emotional wrecks. Somehow we'll have to snap out of this, but right now, I don't know how. Love ya, freaky I think we all gots the spongiform. ibzahp, I had to go down 3 times before I got the letters to your name right hahahaha
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Post by itchin4answers on May 30, 2011 2:51:42 GMT -5
I don't like to talk about my symptoms too much these days, maybe not at all. Sometimes I'm not sure that if I pay so much attention to them that it makes it worse, but then this thing moves around and I think I have everything in toe, than it brings me undone. I cherish the days I feel good & wish I felt good everyday, a nice constant flow, the way I felt before my mind & body was invaded by the boogie man. I'm sure if I had more emotional & physical support from my family I would feel even better, lighten the load for me. There is so much give & take with this disease & the intention is to bring down the sufferer as miserably & as painfully as possible. So don't worry yet shared delight you won't fall down dead for a long time. This is about misery, pain & suffering at it's best & they want it to get better for them, something I find so extremely hard to come to terms with. I want to believe so much in my heart that there ARE some really good people out there, in government & all the other big corporate companies, even Monsanto! surely not everyone is possessed at the same time? We can see the light, why won't they? - someone needs to diffuse this ticking time bomb soon, preferably whilst I still have control over my own mind & body.
Love - itchin
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Post by Lynn on May 30, 2011 17:10:24 GMT -5
Hi Freaky
For three days I have felt like an emotional storm brewing and logged in today to see your post. New moon comming up. Wonder if the poles are stronger this time of year or what?
In Light Lynn
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Post by sheredelight on May 30, 2011 18:28:25 GMT -5
It's Ok, itchin. I know i can drop like a stone. As my problems really started when i was dignosed with Sleep Apena, in 2005. Went to see Specialist in the City, Top Guy. He said i either use the Cpap machine or i will have a stroke or heart attack, what a nice guy. When i had the endoscopy, i saw this thick orange matter in my throat, and Dr did x-ray and said it didn't matter. I recon it Morgies......he couldnt explain it and didn't even bother to try.
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Post by ibzahp on May 30, 2011 21:37:02 GMT -5
Feel better today knowing all you good people are here for support and i am hopeful that one day not too far away the light of truth will wake people up to the fact that Morgellons is a real illness.
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Post by itchin4answers on May 31, 2011 1:10:32 GMT -5
Kas, I came across wrong, sorry sounded like I was trying to tell Grandma how to suck eggs. I'm a little upset & trying to keep a lid on things, just like everyone. Like you say to me "happy happy happy"...so true, at times...so very very hard. Love ya xo
I'm editing this post because as I don't like to leave a soar note for others. I know too well what other peoples actions can to ones whole being. Unfortunately one of the people who should be able to support me, mum can't & the pain she causes me is awful. If she only knew, if she only really knew. I know she would cry for me the same way she cried for those poor cows in Indonesia.
As the only saying goes "never let the sun go down on an argument" - so for Morgellons people we should never let the sun go down with fear in our hearts, we must have love, faith, endurance, & the hunger to fight, live & survive.
I was watching this video this morning. I thought about posting it, but then I didn't want anyone thinking I was being stupid. It is a lovely video & I can watch it time & time again. It cuts off at the end though which is the only let down...but that's life.
Thanks & Love - itchin
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