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Post by skizit on Jul 2, 2011 17:38:37 GMT -5
DO YOU HAVE A POSITIVE CHARGE IN YOUR BODY? I was wondering if you would try something and it won't cost anything unless you don't have any Teflon cooking things, flat is best. Triboelectricity is the exchanging of electrons between objects. Teflon is one of the most receptive of electrons (you can use silicone rubber too). Your skin and hair have an extra positive charge in them. next time you feel the electric hair or you can start now if you care to, rub a Teflon pan all around your head and on your skin all over. Its kind of hard to do because your bones are straight but if you bend your arms and make sure the Teflon touches ALL your skin, that's what I mean. It doesn't hurt and it decharges your body. The extra electrons leave via the Teflon. Try it and see, I did it to myself and the little white patches on my skin started falling off and my hair is not tangling. I just rubbed the pan on myself several times a day. Let me know if this works for you.
I would like to see if the +charge in the morgellons materials creates the field which is needed to charge morgellons systems. The only way I can think of doing that is to decharge it and see disassembles. Thanks so much.
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Post by kammy on Jul 2, 2011 18:28:50 GMT -5
Well, cool beans jelly bean, I'll give it a try...
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Post by imblownaway on Jul 2, 2011 21:39:15 GMT -5
wow will have to try that.
I was wondering about the ions myself and wondered if anyone has ever tried the himalayan salt lamps.
they are said to increase the negative ion count in the air around you. Is this based on the same principle as the teflon?
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Post by bannanny on Jul 3, 2011 15:09:11 GMT -5
I'll give it a shot too skiz... will try a little later today since my head's startin to feel a tad zingy again. Do you notice anything after the first time or does it take a few days or more to feel any less electrical?
I will say I've tried a couple of things that are suposed to produce negative ions around you and keep all the EMF's away too... one being a transmitter type thing you wore around your neck and one being a bracelet. Sorry to say tho that neither one made any difference in me at all. But I'll still try the teflon... can't hurt that's for sure!! Will let you know if anything comes of it... and I'm so glad it seemed to work for you!!!
love ya ~~ bannanny
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Post by skizit on Jul 3, 2011 15:20:19 GMT -5
Bannanny, I saw a difference in the hair texture the second day. I noticed a difference in my skin the third day, my skin got so very soft and I noticed the tiny white skin tags came off. I wish there was another form of Teflon besides a pan if anyone has any other ideas. Also the silicone rubber may be some other product better suited to rubbing on the skin.
Bannanny, what do you mean when your head feels zingy again, do you mean a loss of feeling, sensitivity or partial consciousness or an electrical feeling?
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Post by toni on Jul 3, 2011 15:46:53 GMT -5
I have a negative ionizer (tower fan) that I have going all the time anymore, but my hair is still moving like it's alive.
What do you think Skizit?
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Post by skizit on Jul 3, 2011 23:23:11 GMT -5
This is not an atmospheric ion exchange. This is an exchange of ions by touching another object. The objects are listed on Wiki Triboelectric from least to most receptive. Teflon is something most everyone is likely to have. I'm not sure where you would get a chunk of silicon rubber.
"The triboelectric effect (also known as triboelectric charging) is a type of contact electrification in which certain materials become electrically charged after they come into contact with another different material and are then separated (such as through rubbing). The polarity and strength of the charges produced differ according to the materials, surface roughness, temperature, strain, and other properties."
It just seems possible that if an object could become charged by touching another object, a non-charged object could accept a charge from a positively charged object. I could be wrong.
Triboelectric series: Most positively charged + Air Human skin Leather Rabbit's fur Glass Quartz Mica Human hair Nylon Wool Lead Cat's fur Silk Aluminium Paper (Small positive charge) Cotton (No charge) 0 Steel (No charge) Wood (Small negative charge) Lucite Amber Sealing wax Acrylic Polystyrene Rubber balloon Resins Hard rubber Nickel, Copper Sulfur Brass, Silver Gold, Platinum Acetate, Rayon Synthetic rubber Polyester Styrene (Styrofoam) Orlon Plastic wrap Polyurethane Polyethylene (like Scotch tape) Polypropylene Vinyl (PVC) Silicon Teflon Silicone rubber Ebonite Most negatively charged
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Post by bannanny on Jul 4, 2011 9:59:59 GMT -5
I'm confused about the list above skiz... do ALL those things listed do the same thing as rubbing our heads with teflon will do? I sure don't wanna try anything that would give me even more of a charge!!!!!
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Post by headbee on Jul 4, 2011 10:17:01 GMT -5
Has anyone tried static guard, found this when I googled it: According to the Material Safety Data Sheet for Static Guard, the ingredients are as follows: Ethanol/SD Alcohol, Isopropanol, Chloromethane, Propane, Isobutane, Ammonium acetate, and Dimethyl ditallow ammonium chloride. You can read more information about the product on the MSDS. Here is the information about how the product works, according to Static Guards website: "Static Guard spray eliminates electrical charges from accumulating on things such as fabric, carpet, bedding and even your hairbrush. It does this mainly by neutralizing the charges on fabric surfaces. It also works by attracting humidity from the air, thus increasing the electrical conductivity of the fabric. Raise humidity and you lower the imbalance of positive and negative charges, and the occurrence of static cling or shock." Source(s): www.mystaticguard.com/static-guar…link: householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi…I have ruined a telephone (slimline land line) and a TV remote control when static from my hand produced a big enough shock it fry them when I picked them up. My feet lately have had lots of "Lighting" and making it hard to sleep. I am going to go get the static guard to try! It can't smell any worse than some of the stuff I am already using.
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Post by imblownaway on Jul 5, 2011 5:10:46 GMT -5
Bananny I think the list is from + to - the top pos the bottom neg . And I don't know about rubbing my head the the pan I have. Been meaning to throw the old thing away because I heard teflon wasn't good to fry in. or i could scrub it up real good and try I guess. I don't understand ti either. And I'm knocking on wood I haven't experienced the electric thing. Thats gotta be scary.
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Post by skizit on Jul 5, 2011 11:46:14 GMT -5
This is just my word of caution using the chemical static spray, it is formulated to use on fabrics, not human skin.
Bannanny, the list above is only for reference. See down toward the bottom where it says Teflon? It is one of the most acceptive of electrons. If you rub it on something that has a lot of positive charge such as covalent or hydrogen bonds of synthetic materials like polypyrrole or polyaniline which have been doped to give them a maximum electrical positive charge, the charge is going to even out when you touch the two objects.
You can try it on your hair first. The horror stories on the hair page are a good place to test this theory.
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Post by bannanny on Jul 6, 2011 10:54:13 GMT -5
Ok, thanks skizzie. I'll try it, but I'm doin ok right now so I'll wait til the sensations get stronger before I do it. Don't wanna do anything that might actually set it off again ya know?
As for the static guard... I used it on my head before and it did lessen the sensations. But I still don't advise using it cuz after all, it IS a chemical... and we need to stay away from chemicals IMO. I didn't use it for a prolonged period either. It was a last resort my girlfriend thought of after taking me for a drive in her new convertible. I'd never been so scared in my morg journey as I was that day. After driving for awhile with the wind hitting my head, the sensations became so strong that the second I got out of the car, I almost passed out. We stopped at our other friends house and I headed straight for the bathroom... I just stood there in shock holding myself up agaist the sink. I swear to you... my scalp was actually bouncing up and down in certain places. Just like there were electrified jumping beans under it. Scary as scary can be... and that's when (on our way back to my house) she stopped, went in the store, and bought some static guard. She spayed it on my head very lightly right then and there and like I said, I did start to feel some relief. But after that, I only used it again a few times cuz I realized it couldn't be very good for me. In fact Dr. Hildy told me to STOP spraying that and Lysol on me cuz all it was accomplishing was bringing all those chemicals straight into my system. She also said when you put anything like that on your head, it will absorb right into your brain. So no... I suggest you leave the static guard for what it was designed to do for clothes etc., and not use it on your skin and scalp.
love ya's ~~ bannanny
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Post by xiblanque on Jul 6, 2011 11:49:22 GMT -5
How about using those silicon rubber oven gloves? I wonder if they would be very effective though they are available at some grocery stores and most restaurant supply stores. Xib
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Post by skizit on Jul 11, 2011 23:52:06 GMT -5
Give it a try. After I got bit by mites at a motel, my hair changed texture, real silky and flyaway and knotted. I just recently read about the triboelectricity, tried the teflon on hair and it is normal again. I don't think my hair had time to transform into the tubular inorganic/organic structures. Also, the white spots flaked off my skin. I've never seen those gloves, but if they are silicone, they will work.
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Post by toni on Jul 12, 2011 8:22:23 GMT -5
Something else maybe checking the ingredients on the back of your hair conditioners too, as most of them have silicones in them. That's what is the detangler and smoother.
Clymethicone and Dimethicones are in many (most) hair products, and the shine spritzers too. Dimethicones coat the surface of the hair and lubricate it, improving combing providing detangling.
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Post by bannanny on Jul 13, 2011 9:26:55 GMT -5
Cool... I'll buy some of the gloves then. It should be easier than using a pan I'd think! I'm still waiting to try it tho. I'm in a good place right now (except I have walking pneumonia) but as far as morgs goes, I haven't been cycling at all. So I don't wanna do anything that might make it react ya know? Actually, I'm surprised I got this cold and all... haven't had anything normal like this in the whole 7 years I've had morgs. Maybe that's a good thing eh?
love ya's ~~ bannanny
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Post by Lynn on Jul 13, 2011 9:39:32 GMT -5
Hi Bananny
Hope you get well soon. Seems like alot of us here are hit hard right now with things. Hope you all get well soon.
In Light Lynn
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Post by toni on Sept 12, 2011 11:36:48 GMT -5
Skizit, I was looking over some very old posts from 07 I think it was, and I found this. (I'm serious too) I wonder how this might or IF it might show us something in regards to our specimens *or wild hair* in any way. I don't know (maybe even our hair) it might "do something". It's cheap enough to get, so I do think I'm going to get one. If it does nothing as far as my wildly acting hair, well... then no big loss, it's only a few bucks, but check it out, it's actually sort of 'neato'. www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/science/af4c/?cpg=cj&ref=&CJURL=&CJID=2470763Click on the video right below the guys wrist. Here it is on tv, called the Fly Stick - hehehe Well..it will either make the wild hairs on our head more wild, or not...I'll see. ;D
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Post by bannanny on Sept 13, 2011 11:34:47 GMT -5
Oooooooh, you're so brave toni! I'd be scared the charge would make my hairs come right outta my head! Course, that's just becuz my hair feels like electricity... then again, maybe it would be a good thing for my hairs (morg ones anyway) to go ahead and be pulled right outts my head, ha! I really don't wanna be bald again tho... my hair's growing sooooooo fast right now that it's already below my shoulders, yaaaaaaay! I want it long too... morg hairs or not!
Anyhoo, let us know what it does for you k? I'm reaaaaaal curious to see!
love you ~~ bannanny
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Post by toni on Sept 13, 2011 12:04:46 GMT -5
Oooooooh, you're so brave toni! I'd be scared the charge would make my hairs come right outta my head! Course, that's just becuz my hair feels like electricity... then again, maybe it would be a good thing for my hairs (morg ones anyway) to go ahead and be pulled right outts my head, ha! I really don't wanna be bald again tho... my hair's growing sooooooo fast right now that it's already below my shoulders, yaaaaaaay! I want it long too... morg hairs or not! Anyhoo, let us know what it does for you k? I'm reaaaaaal curious to see! love you ~~ bannanny hahahaha That's so funny ;D And yes..when I get it I'll video the back of my hair (maybe) when I try it...then we all can watch as my hair fries to a poof. hehehe I'm so playing. I hope it doesn't do that. I guess what I want to see is if I'm loaded with negative or positive charges, then they "might" counteract each other and stop my hairs from going so wild. Do you know, I've broken more dishes (because of my hair)? I know that sounds really strange, but what I mean is, as you know too, how our hair is, that unless someone has this also happening, there's no way to describe how "ALIVE" and wild it is. And especially when I'm standing at the kitchen sink, I'll be just running the water, like normal people do, and then my hair attacks and so quick and fast as lightening, it acutally scares me, or gets in my way so fast I'll drop a plate or glass in the sink...and it breaks. I tell Mr Toni (the dishes getting broken is my hair's fault.) But because "experimenting" is I suppose one of the aspects of trying to find what's going on and this "electron charger" might really do something as far as the hairs go, because seriously, I've tried everything from A-Z to stop the hairs from moving, as far as every topical application from hairspray to mousse' and yogurt and you name it,...they're loaded with energy for some strange reason and they just don't quit moving. Maybe this will ZAP the energy right out of them...or make it worse, I'll see though, because the only next best thing to making them stop is cutting it off, and I won't do that. Bannanny, are your hairs pestering you to the point of where it's really incredibly annoying?
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