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Post by bannanny on Jul 27, 2011 11:24:41 GMT -5
Frappergirl sent my "chip" images to Dr. Dan Harper who's studying morgs and treating patients for it. Here's what his conclusions are about it... "This is morgellon’s—It is not an implant, but crystalline formation due to microbes within her body---the colors are from the types of minerals in it, depending on the enzyme system of the microbe that made it… the body’s weak detoxification system and low immunity is what allows these microbes to flourish in the body-"That's the first time I've ever had anyone in research be able to tell me something concrete about that thing... and I want to thank frappergirl for getting the info to him!! Without her help, I'd have never gotten the pics of it to him... so once again, thank you honey pie!! Course I don't really understand everything he said (not yet anyway) but it's at least good to have someone tell me SOMETHING after all these years!! What do you brainiacs think about what he said... and can you explain it to me so I understand it better? love ya's ~~ bannanny
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Post by freakydeak on Jul 28, 2011 3:37:33 GMT -5
BEET JUICE - SLURP IT UP, OR HAVE A BEET JUICE PARTY FOR YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM. ADD APPLE, & CARROTS. Soon you will be walking around the house saying "BEET JUICE' maybe wondering why, but it's not important. People who drink beet juice are often found to walk around their house saying "beet juice," (in an extremely low voice) after 1, or 2 doses fixed in the blender. Get Healthy. freakydeak finally in the know. Get Tom in on it too, as the words are meaningless if only one person says them. Go go. Freedom for the people, & burn Obama's blank checks (his wife's too), Born again freaky with lung damage,, & an attitude- Make loud fusses. March around your couch, & start getting in shape. , & whole wheat crackers Smackers
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Post by Baraka Obam on Jul 28, 2011 11:00:46 GMT -5
Beet Juice is a super food, and you know from doing it that it is not only the sugar in it. You could eat a bowl of sugar and it would not do for you what two beets in a juicer would do, the same with carrots, still carotts are not as good for you as beets the boost is great, your skin, hair and eyes will shine.
There are also, brocolee and spinich although spinich needs to be juiced in a press, if you do high iron content vegtables in a juicer the air flow will spoil the juice right NOW, in fact a press juicer is the best for all juicing jobs to get the best juice that has not been weathered from the wind vane in conventional juicers..............
I have both of these juicers, even had a vitamix but I do not find vitamix much to my likeing, if you are a master at food preperation you may find one very handy, they are so powerful they can make hot soup in no time at all.
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Post by bannanny on Jul 28, 2011 12:08:26 GMT -5
Oooooooooh YUCK and YUCK again!! I can't even stand to look at beets let alone eat them!! So no beets for me freakerdeeks... but thanks for the suggestion anyway! I'm the same way with peas too. I still to this day pick them out of whatever they're in... just like I did when I was a kid!
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Post by skizit on Jul 28, 2011 12:54:14 GMT -5
Bannanny, Dr. Dan Harper is blowing his nose, that is the most unscientific opinion. Its good you dont' understand it because it is meaningless gas. He obviously knows nothing about polymer science, conjugated copolymers or crystallinization. Don't believe just because he's got a Dr. in front of his name. Dr. means Durrrr.
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Post by toni on Jul 28, 2011 13:06:22 GMT -5
Frappergirl sent my "chip" images to Dr. Dan Harper who's studying morgs and treating patients for it. Here's what his conclusions are about it... "This is morgellon’s—It is not an implant, but crystalline formation due to microbes within her body---the colors are from the types of minerals in it, depending on the enzyme system of the microbe that made it… the body’s weak detoxification system and low immunity is what allows these microbes to flourish in the body-"That's the first time I've ever had anyone in research be able to tell me something concrete about that thing... and I want to thank frappergirl for getting the info to him!! Without her help, I'd have never gotten the pics of it to him... so once again, thank you honey pie!! Course I don't really understand everything he said (not yet anyway) but it's at least good to have someone tell me SOMETHING after all these years!! What do you brainiacs think about what he said... and can you explain it to me so I understand it better? love ya's ~~ bannanny Bannanny thank you for sharing this. I sure believe that. That makes total sense to me, not that I know beans, but...this does make sense to me. And it's rather easy to understand, as all living "microbes" produce (substances) or (minerals they may express too). I know...here's a great example. Yellowstone National park. Have you been there? It's like being on another planet because of the multitude of algae that can tolerate all kinds of temperatures in those ponds for instance. All those living organisms are influenced by their environment (as we are too). The colors of the rainbow are every where at Yellowstone, because those are forms of life. Our body produces (even in our urine) crystalline structures shaped like octagons and all kinds of geometric shapes. Now, if a microbe, or many different kinds begin to bind onto a crystallized octagon that is uric acid for instance, as they're living on it, or "the colorful microbes are actually that that it's made of, that "could" explain the multitude of colors too, and then also...adding in enzymes within our body, in regards to if we drink enough water, or how much calcium we take or many other factors too, that also has influences on colors and geometric shapes too of how it develops. Our bodies can manufacture just about all kinds of things, as well as express them, just all depending on what factors are involved to create it.
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Post by toni on Jul 28, 2011 13:08:26 GMT -5
Skizit I just read your post, and that too is correct. (not that I'm saying that about that doctor) but...yes, there are man made possibilites too in so many areas.
If that doctor can have the "specimen analyzed" down to the inth degree, then and only then would we know for certain what it is.
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Post by toni on Jul 28, 2011 13:14:30 GMT -5
I just found this quicky, but it has to do with microbes and the colorful'ness of them. news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/11/091120-caves-lava-tubes-microbes-poop.htmlNot that I'm saying "this is it"...no...this is just an example of what the doc said (or it seems). This is a real picture of one of the "pools" at Yellowstone. The colors are amazing just like someone took paint and spilled it everywhere. But..it's Au natural. Now how any of this got in us, that's the mystery 'imho'. Please know too, I'm not saying "this is it". This is just another real example of life living and doing it's thing.
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Post by skizit on Jul 28, 2011 19:43:58 GMT -5
There are many kinds of archaea and there are new ones being found, this is a hot contentious science, one that was ignored until recently. I put this info in one of my videos about the different kingdoms that have been crossed. Archaea and bacteria are among the extremophiles. The thermophiles at Yellowstone exist in different termperatures and nutrients, one of which is sulphur. Archaea are naturally found in the gut of humans and there are man-made archaeosomes which are formed with the protein of certain archaea. I think archaea have definitely been used in making medical products and may be contained in the Morgellons matrix. There is more on the extremophiles and thermophiles at Wiki. yellowstone is my favorite place on the planet and where I spend a lot of time. It is most amazing but the mosquitos eat you up in the evening. You can even see the stars here at night. They do cause rain here as I saw the chemtrails one day and a rain storm the next day. Otherwise, they may never get much rain at all. The trees are growing back in great numbers, a natural reseeding occurred by fire in 1988 (I think). I came that year but couldn't get it, it was on fire. Temperature/Microbial Zones of Hot Springs Pigmentation of thermophiles exposed to sunlight in the hot springs is a good indicator of the changes in temperature. We can divide the temperature ranges into four zones characterized by different microbes that are dominant in each zone. High Temperature Zone (>73ºC) The high temperature zone hosts heterotrophic and lithotrophic bacteria and archaea that are nonphotosynthetic.9 Although the high temperature zone do host a number of unique archaea and bacteria, the variety of microbes found in these zones is significantly less than zones with lower temperature because of its extreme environment. Synechococcus-Chloroflexus Zone (73-60ºC) Synechococcus-Chloroflexus zone is characterized by the presence of abundant amount of Synechococcus and Chloroflexus microbes that make up the yellow, orange, and greenish bacterial biofilms on water surfaces. Synechococcus are cyanophytes and are observed to make yellow and green biofilms on surfaces in contact with water temperature ranging from 67 to 73º C. The mats provide a natural system in which the organic matter such as photoexcreted glycolate formed by Synechococcus could be utilized by heterotroph organisms. Where Synechococcus makes yellow and green biofilms, the photosynthetic filamentous bacterium Chloroflexus auraniacus makes green and orange laminated mats on water surfaces ranging from 60 to 68º C. Thus, no bacterial mats in High temperature zones is observed where water is higher than 73 º C, but as the water cools down around these zones, an outline of yellow and green is present, and as temperature cools down further away, orange mats indicates the presence of Chloroflexus bacterium. Synechococcus and Chloroflexus also line the bottom of hot springs with water temperature lower than 73º C, where Chloroflexus can metabolize organic acids produced by the fermentation of organic matter.8,11 Phormidium zone (60-30ºC) In the Phormidium zone, where water temperature ranges from 30 to 60ºC, the dominant species of filamentous cyanobacteria Phormidium forms extensive bacterial mats of varying morphologies with eukaryotic algae and fungi. These morphologies include: o Active streams: longitudinal bacterial streamers o Flat rubbery bacterial sheets: complex bacterial community, including Mastigocladus laminosus, which can tolerate freezing and dessication o Terrace pools: smalls subaqueous conical stromatolites and flat-topped stromatolites, both are varieties of Phormidium o Terrace fronts: thick rubbery mats In addition to these bacteria, Synechococcus and Chloroflexus are also present in this zone.11 Calothrix zone (<30ºC) The Calothrix zone, with water temperature lower than 30ºC, is characterized by grayish-brown flat and postular mats of filamentous cyanobacteria Calothrix. This zone tends to be shallow (less than five cm deep) and has closely packed vertical and subvertical bacterial filaments that are, like Phormidium, coated with silica. These filaments form small microspicular branching shrublike masses that are denser and more resistant to crushing than the bacterial mats formed by Phormidium.11 microbewiki.kenyon.edu/index.php/Yellowstone_Hot_Springs
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Post by skizit on Jul 28, 2011 19:51:22 GMT -5
This is why I say the Dr. is just mouthing off. He offers no science to back up this blubbering. He uses words he thinks will impress, "crystal", "enzyme", "microbe."
What kind of crystal, what enzyme, what microbe, these words evoke areas of science so large that an expert in each field could be presented with Bannanny's chip and each could study it and not know. The exact specimen must be examined to make a scientific opinion. Unless that is presented, the doctor is blowing smoke. don't be taken in by this chicannery. He is indicating that he thinks he is talking to someone who can be deluded, someone who is delusional.
You can describe the process, the possibilities, the sequences of events but unless you have the exact patent, the exact study, the manufacturer and the scientists who created it, you cannot summarily say what the chip is. Can you tell I am not impressed with this doctor and find such opinions exceedingly cruel. Dr.s think they can delude us into thinking they have knowledge of sciences they have no training or experience in. It kind of pisses me off. Its deceitful.
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Post by Lynn on Jul 28, 2011 21:10:51 GMT -5
Hi Skizit
I don't know if Dr. Dan Harper has any science in his back ground. Is there a way to check? All I know is the few times I talked to him last year he was very very nice person. I do not believe he means any harm. Also I think he has a fair track record for helping some of us out of this mess....
Also wonder if he contacted someone in science to draw his opinion on before giving it to Bannanny??
In Light Lynn
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Post by bannanny on Jul 29, 2011 11:28:57 GMT -5
Thanks for all your opinions guys... I'm still in the dark tho cuz my brain is!
I just wish I could get the results from the lab Dr. Hildy sent it to. She also said she was gonna send it back to me, but hasn't. She doesn't wanna seem to give me any info at all as I continue to send her emails. Sent another one just the other day but haven't gotten a reply... yet again. So who knows if I'll ever get any answers or get the thing back. I could probably find another one in my skin or hair but I'm done doin that. Seen enough and don't care to pick and pull anymore since it only seems to make things worse. So whatcha gonna do? Move on... that's what I'm doin! I just wanted to share it with you guys to see what you thought... and I always will cuz we're all in this together!
big hugs ~~ bannanny
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Post by lostintime on Jul 29, 2011 16:10:29 GMT -5
Hello Skizit, Might I ask where your scienticfic background comes from? I can copy and paste too.
Since you are the armchair crusader with such devotion and compassion for your fellow man, might I suggest you go back through your YouTube videos and delete the massive amount of false information your pushing to the public.
(SKIZIT)This is why I say the Dr. is just mouthing off. He offers no science to back up this blubbering. He uses words he thinks will impress, "crystal", "enzyme", "microbe."
What kind of crystal, what enzyme, what microbe, these words evoke areas of science so large that an expert in each field could be presented with Bannanny's chip and each could study it and not know. The exact specimen must be examined to make a scientific opinion. Unless that is presented, the doctor is blowing smoke. don't be taken in by this chicannery. He is indicating that he thinks he is talking to someone who can be deluded, someone who is delusional.
You can describe the process, the possibilities, the sequences of events but unless you have the exact patent, the exact study, the manufacturer and the scientists who created it, you cannot summarily say what the chip is. Can you tell I am not impressed with this doctor and find such opinions exceedingly cruel. Dr.s think they can delude us into thinking they have knowledge of sciences they have no training or experience in. It kind of pisses me off. Its deceitful.
WOW you should listen to yourself and pay attention.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Jul 29, 2011 17:06:25 GMT -5
Lostintime, are you the real lostintime, same on mdr, if you are hello, long time no see,
skizit has a point here, what exactly is it
Do you know how many doctors I have been to that have said, its this its that all without testing anything.
What was the process to find the answer, so far seeing just how brilliant doctors are, I am of the same opinion. The opinion is formed by life experience with experts, most talk alot of, mumbo jumbo, to confound people not educated with their vocabulos.
The mere verbiage does not impress anyone looking for facts.
Hope all is well with you Lostintime. Lets talk again soon.
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Post by lostintime on Jul 30, 2011 3:04:10 GMT -5
Hello Baraka, Yep same lostintime. Been awhile. Hope your doing better then the last time we talked. My life is pretty much a constant decline with much suffering along the way.
"This is morgellon’s—It is not an implant, but crystalline formation due to microbes within her body---the colors are from the types of minerals in it, depending on the enzyme system of the microbe that made it… the body’s weak detoxification system and low immunity is what allows these microbes to flourish in the body-"
Although this is a broad statment by the Dr. it is also correct. I agree it is not earth shattering and I for one am the last person to try and defend a doctor.
My problem is with the people that keep the topic of Morgellons going round and round by publishing B.S. Skizit has done nothing but cause harm by posting made up technobabble on all the boards and youtube.
Hey, cool pic toni. Yellowstone is pretty.
Take care Baraka.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Jul 30, 2011 7:48:21 GMT -5
Great to see you, sorry to hear your getting worse.
My condition when we talked was actually pretty good, I am even better now, found a few imple cheap items that work very well.
We should talk again soon.
As for the doctors statment, what science does he base this on, what form of tests did he use.
Was this a Dr assumtion or based on somthing tried and true.
skizits question is a good question still. There are too many self made experts doctors.
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Post by bannanny on Jul 30, 2011 10:39:50 GMT -5
The only thing skiz needs right now are our prayers... she just lost her youngest daughter in a fire. So ease up on her please... she's only ALWAYS tried to help anyway.
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Post by skizit on Jul 30, 2011 15:01:57 GMT -5
The thing I find the most disturbing are professionals who make it look like they know everything. I have been in touch with Dr. Garth Nicholson who discovered that the Mycoplasma incognito was the basis of Gulf War Syndrome. It may be a part of Morgellons also along with other forms of life and their protein.
I am posting his comments on Morgellons with his persmission on a new thread.
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Post by bannanny on Jul 31, 2011 12:19:07 GMT -5
We love you honey... and if continuing with your studies helps you get thru the horrible pain you're feeling right now, then so be it. Just know we don't expect it from you in any way... we just want to love you right now.
You're one incredible woman Skiz... even thru your tragedy and pain, you still continue to help us all.
I love you so big ~~ bannanny
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