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Post by itchin4answers on Aug 21, 2011 16:42:54 GMT -5
Hi there, I am starting this new thread, as suggested by pdidit, for people to put down their suggestions & experiences with Coping/Antidepressants: both natural & prescription. ALL suggestions welcome.... If you've found relief by standing on your head for 10 minutes a day, please let us know! Thanks itchin
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Post by Lynn on Aug 21, 2011 18:33:52 GMT -5
Hi Itchen
Just had an experience yesterday. I decided to try Velvet Bean, but I have sensitivities to a lot of herbs so when an herb is concentrated or not food form I have to take a very small amount to see how I am going to do. Also if it is something I really need to seriously take I have to work it up over a long period of time. Like Sea Deluse/Organic Iodine. It took me a year to work up to 2 drops under the tongue. I started out with 1 drop in 4 oz of water. I would take once sip swish and spit it out. I worked up to swallowing the one sip then till I could drink the 2 drops and over many months then I went to a drop under the tongue. As soon as I felt a bad reaction I would gargle it out of the mouth. I now can get away with 3 drop under the tongue with little reaction.
On to what happen yesterday. I broke up a Velvet Bean capsule and took the small end of the cap and put it on a spoon. I took it and felt a reaction right away. I sip on milk for over an hour or two. The rest of the day was a battle. Loss of motor skills, feeling angry (Its suppose to balance you out mentally as well as kill parasites and diseases among a list of things. I figured by bed time it would be gone having taken such a small amount. I drank extra water and ate foods that went smoothly though the system. Like my yogurt. By bed time I was starting to fight off panic attacks and felt like I was on a roller coaster ride. I have not had to fight my emotions for almost two years. All the vitamins and herbs I do take keep me well rounded. I do have to admit after the highs and drunkenness my Thrush medicine gave me and even made me start to hallucinate. I quit it at that point and a friend said the ride back out might be bumpy. It was a little. Had felt low end angry and blew up a few times. The Velvet Bean though brought out all the uncontrolled emotions.
I was trying to figure out what I was going to do all night beside stay awake all night like I did in the old days and ride it out by doing 3,000 piece jig saw puzzles and listen to electronic music. Well of course I forgot my Rescue Remedy. I put one drop in 4 oz of water and it settled me right down to such a low key I was able to ignore what lingered and go right to sleep 30 min. later. Rescue Remedy is another one of those herbal mixtures on this one that I had to do the one drop in a class of water and spit it out. I can do up to three but it makes me feel uncomfortable.
I am so glad to have Rescue Remedy. Last year the hubby and I had a big blow out. Which is once in a blue moon and I took three drops. Because I was so upset by the argument the three drops did not make me uncomfortable. It was all needed to go in and straighten things out. I slept like a baby. My husband did not know I had taken 3 drops and asked me how in the world I got to sleep and slept so well when he was up tossing and turning from the argument. I told him and we got to laughing and things were smoothed out.
In Light Lynn
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Post by Lynn on Aug 22, 2011 12:09:34 GMT -5
Hi Itchen and Pdidit
I agree big time with Pdidit about not beating one self up and also past haunts come into play also making oneself a recluse. I fought hard to get some control over the bug part to be able to go out in public. I was very careful out in public also. I always and still do orange spray the toilet seat and use three pieces of toilet paper to keep any debre or even disease from lingering on toilet seats.
The more I got out and tried to be normal the more it helped my mood and also made it harder for the disease to feel like a complete take over. It was slow in coming and scary as could be.
I did not realize at the beginning what the disease saps out of you in Nutrients and keeping a supply of colloidal minerals helped to level off the moods and the Rescue remedy for any rough patches.
Before that I did the Don-Qui and Cold pressed coconut oil and stayed away from Caffeine. To this day I still have to watch my Caffeine and sugar intake to keep from going back wards in all areas. Bugs, disease, and emotional out look. The minute I start to feel hyper I tighten the protocol so I do not slip into any uncontrolled emotional roller coaster.
On the subject of past haunts. The more I forgive myself for past deeds or learn to forgive those who made life a living nightmare in my childhood. I had forgiven a long time ago but had not allowed myself to heal or except what it made me. When I realized how internally strong I was from having to control all my emotions as a child or get a real beating. I learned to like that strength and let go of how I got that way. Kind of turned myself into a secret super hero to my own self and not to others. Make one except oneself for what we are and easier to deal with any bad output we still may have. Made me calmer and easier to deal with and less angry and harder for others to anger me.
A healed Morgie that I consider my best friend was able to help me through some of this. Bouncing things off of her was really nice and then be able to dissect it and start each item on a path to healing. Just like this disease the emotional past can do the cha cha on you.
I really think that for some of us our emotional past can effect whether we will be able to get well. Maybe we still could defeat the disease with all our emotional baggage but maybe take a lot longer? Also the disease itself drains us emotionally.
In Light Lynn
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Post by itchin4answers on Aug 22, 2011 16:55:33 GMT -5
Hi Lynn & pdidit,
This is all really good advice. The rescue remedy seems to be working at the moment. I did let loose & have an ice cream & some lollies last night, though this morning I'm paying for it.
Getting out of the house is very important & I do try to this as much as I can to feel normal. Luckily this week Melbourne is being blessed with some beautiful sunny weather, when the sun is shining & the sky is clear blue it really does make a world of difference to my state of mind.
Thanks guys Love itchin
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Post by itchin4answers on Aug 22, 2011 23:42:42 GMT -5
What would help matters a little is if my GP wasn't such a grump. I really like the guy, my partner started seeing him 18 months ago & I think I've seen him for just over 12 months & my son too.
I don't go to see him very often. I did see him once about my ear problems & he told me to quit smoking & wasn't very compassionate. I had a similar problem with him yesterday. He'd obviously had a bad day, was grumbling about having to do "government" paper work & feeling lazy, other people not doing their job properly & me killing myself with cigarettes!! It was on the tip of my tongue to say "but it's ok for the government to kill me..." I didn't.
My doctor got upset because I asked him for a repeat prescription of my contraceptive pill. He said he didn't want to give it to me because I am 43yr & smoke cigarettes & I could die from a blood clot. I almost said a blood clot wouldn't be so bad then I could just pop off. Then I thought that sort of talk wasn't called for.
He did end up giving me a prescription but realised when I got home that it was only 1 month supply, no repeats when I normally get 5 repeats. So basically he is black mailing me.
I said a few other things that I would have preferred to have left alone, but the moment had called for it, so I told him in no uncertain terms. My doctor said he was sorry I felt the way I did. I told him I didn't feel that way about him as doctor, but did add before I walked out of his office that I wasn't a leper.
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Post by Lynn on Aug 23, 2011 1:35:41 GMT -5
Hi Itchen
Glad you are giving it a try. Long time ago I was a school bus driver and a company called Nutrition Now and it is not the same one that has popular brands of vitamins in the stores. I am missing part of the name. It was a multi level company and had a product called Calm now. Boy it worked real good but after using it off and on for weeks for a few months I had breathing problems and a red rash and flush. They also had a all natural chemical free hair growth product and met a bald man who was just getting in his peach fuzz on his whole head as it was growing back his hair.
When they temporary took Rogain off the market they were going to go to all the hair salons to offer them the safer alternative. Not sure what happen to that company, but I can not find them nor my friend from way back then that use to sale it.
In Light Lynn
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Post by itchin4answers on Aug 23, 2011 2:34:08 GMT -5
Hi Lynn, I tried the rescue remedy about 10 years ago, as well as a natural antidepressant I got from my Naturopath called Deprenax. Both worked well for a while, then I tried St. John's wort. Over time they became less effective. I seem to be able to tolerate herbs better than yourself. I just find that they don't work as well over time so it's a case of alternating things, until such time as things start to calm down. Love itchin
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Post by Lynn on Aug 23, 2011 10:20:19 GMT -5
I can understand that Itchen I think that my vitamins and Colloidal Minerals and watching my diet is what really keeps me smoothed out. The other stuff just is like our band aid but not the cure. I wonder if our thyroid is the culprit to a lot of our troubles in the emotion department. If I get my Thyroid under control then maybe we will see if all other unsettled rows go away for good. lol. Even though my test always come back negative for low thyroid. It still on the low end of normal and my big sis also has trouble with Thyroid and all her test sense her teenage years come back on the low end of normal. Its the years before menopause of really low blood pressure and low body temperature which I still have the low body temperature. Have not tested it for a long time, but right before the bugs hit I went through a period where I was trying to raise my body temperature. I got in trouble with my hip Dr. way back then for using a treadmill. I was suppose to live a sedentary life sense the first hip surgery at age one. But the Drs. always had problems keeping me down hence the nick name Torpedo. So I would wake up and take my temp and it would be 94.7. After getting my morning routine done. Hubby off to work me dressed and ready for my sedentary life. Then the temperature would be around 96.2. I would get crippled real easy, but I would get on a tread mill and try to run for how ever long I could stand the pain and I would be quit a mess afterward. Not able to walk or do just anything. Only then could I get my temperature near but still under 98.6. So I know there is something going on with that thyroid and think a lot of emotional turmoils we have may be because of that. Also during all this low temperatures I was always feeling hot. I would freeze people out with air conditioners or open windows. I rarely wore a coat. A sweater on really cold days was all I needed. I could go out side in middle of winter in bare feet and rarely suffer consequences. My husband knew something was really wrong when I first got the bug part of the illness. I completely switched in reverse and wore a coat all summer and still froze. Every night I froze under heavy blankets and my teeth would chatter even in my long sleep ware and thermo socks in the middle of summer. Rarely did we run the air conditioner that year. I believe because of that my husband has not labeled me as delusional. He knows there is something wrong physically. He does not believe in bugs or Morgellons, but does not think its imaginary. If I remember right he believes it has something to do with nerve damage from some sort of illness that would effect that. He just does not have any name to put to it. Funny though my very first bug he saw with his own eyes when I had bugs of different kinds head to toe. It looks like a chigger under the hand held magnifier and he helped me get it out of my pore on my arm with a piece of tape, but the tape mushed it and you could not really tell what it was then. He would not believe it was a Chigger because we live in central Valley CA. Chiggers are not suppose to live in our area. That is when I developed a belief that all creature can live in all areas, but some die off and have low numbers in areas that are not environmentally friendly to them. But the ones that manage to live were attracted to me along with all other bugs. Well I have gone on to long. ;D In Light Lynn/TorpedoLynn
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Post by itchin4answers on Aug 23, 2011 18:33:01 GMT -5
Hi Lynn,
I'm having to have the Breathe Methane & Hydrogen tests before I can see the Dietitian. So for the next month I will be messing around having these 3 individual tests with special diet requirements in between.
My blood pressure has always been on the low side, runs in the family. The nurse took mine yesterday, saying it was way low at 91/67 though my pulse was great.
Partners are a big influence when it comes to coping. My life at times has felt like the biggest balancing act. My partner is an alcoholic & that has fuzzed things big time along the way. He believes me for sure, he's seen too much & I believe made him drink more. This is a real hard one because if I didn't have Morgellons I know I wouldn't have him in my life. I need to cope though & often having him around far out ways not having him around.
Love itchin
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Post by bannanny on Aug 24, 2011 9:16:00 GMT -5
Hi guys... I used to take anti depressents, 3 different kinds every day. But they were abruptly stopped cuz California was cutting back on everything with med-i-cal. I went thru some turmoil after going off thaem like that... but after a couple of months when my PC doc told me she'd prescribe them for me to take again, I was already doin better than I had been while taking the things. So I declined and haven't taken them for a good 3 years now. I'm good without them too... and count on a positive attitude and staying happy to beat this thing, and that's working for me!! I really feel my body just may finally be balancing itself out from all this... especially since I haven't gone thru any bad cycles since April! The only thing I do take now is Papaya Enzymes... I chew 4 of them every day!
I agree that having a partner, boyfriend, or in my case, a very understanding husband, certainly is a big influence on us itchin. Tom has definitely made my life better... therefore made my attitude climb high as far as positivity and happiness go. I'm sorry your man is an alcoholic sweetie... but it sure isn't your fault that he's drinking. That's his choice and has nothing to do with you having morgs.
I love ya's ~~ bannanny
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Post by Lynn on Aug 24, 2011 11:05:06 GMT -5
Hi Itchen
We are alike in the blood pressure area. Back in my younger years it was pretty near yours. A couple degrees higher. Something like 97 over 65 with a heart rate around 65 to 70. I was one of those people who were born with a strong strength. I was usually stronger then most people at any age for my age and then on top of that had super health and a high pain thresh hole. Great blood pressure, great heart rate, and rarely got sick. Boy what a far cry I am from that now. I had always had a weight problem but back then only 20 lbs or less over weight. Years later when the weight started going up my Doctor said some of us are born race horses and some of us are born Clydesdale. You and me are Clydesdale. I would laugh but it seem true though too.
Breathe Methane & Hydrogen tests? How do they test and how will that effect on diet? Never heard of of these test. Are you hoping the diet change will help with our Morgellons? It will be interesting to see how it goes. Also of course how it will improve mental health. Sure effects it on me anyhow.
Sorry about the hubby drinking. My hubby use to drink a lot. He was liven to much in the past from his military days. Saw a few things he wanted to drown out in a bottle. Finally he got past that and would not even know how. Just lucky I guess. Hopefully your hubby can find a way. Yeah on partners not being able to fully cope when they do not know what to believe. I admire those here who have all believing partners and they seem to flow with it all. My husband can only handle so much and becomes a grump and I have to retrain from letting him know how poorly I am doing. I am not doing all that poorly but back in the bigger part of this over a year ago it was scarey. There was a small hand full of times I thought it was our end because he did not seem like he was going to be able to take it.
On the flip side he has always helped me get dressed when too crippled. Has always made sure a hand or leg was near by in bed for me to touch or grab when the biting got to intense and the stinging skin. I use to have stinging skin so bad that any contact with any material and off and on by the air itself. I would just lay there and moan and writhe like a snake waiting for the stinking episode to subside enough for me to start ignoring it and try and sleep. Very little sleep back then. So he is very attentive, but he can only handle so much and becomes a grump while being attentive. lol. He is my hero and best friend thick and thin.
In Light Lynn/TorpedoLynn
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Post by itchin4answers on Aug 24, 2011 18:34:25 GMT -5
Hi Lynn, The Breathe Methane & Hydrogen Tests, sorry I thought you may have been familiar with this. This link gives a good explanation; shepherdworks.com.au/disease-information/hydrogen-breath-testingI'm having the Lactulose, Fructose malabsorption & Lactose intolerance tests. A strict diet has to be followed the day prior to these tests. I have the first couple of tests done next week, then the following week. About 10 days after that my doctor gets the results, then I can see the Dietitian, which I have the referral for. I am hoping the diet changes help with IBS & Morgellons, but I have to get there yet. The nurse did a blood sugar test too which was 6.7, she said I must keep an eye on that. She had trouble getting blood out of the tip of my finger. I said to her "the tip of my fingers are hard" - She said "I was just thinking that, the little machine just kept slipping right off". Hi Bannanny, so sorry to hear about your back, ouch! I understand back pain too, really do hope things improve & you are back to as close to normal as possible! Thanks guys Love itchin
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Post by Lynn on Aug 25, 2011 1:48:31 GMT -5
Hi Itchen
Boy my spelling is the pits the last few days. I am off centered. My aim, balance and so forth. I fallowed the link and found it very interesting. Can hardly wait to hear the results of your testing. Do you ever smell like an ammonia smell come off your breath. I go through mini periods of time where my exhales smells like ammonia. I find that a bit worrisome.
Violet glad you are safe and am really wondering why your area had an earthquake.
Ibzahp Sorry to hear you had a broken back also. Boy this back stuff makes me cringe. I get sympathy pains easily for others. Hope you and Bannanny get some piece from the pain.
Hi Skitzit
Great video.
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Post by itchin4answers on Aug 25, 2011 3:34:13 GMT -5
Hi Lynn, I never even noticed your spelling!...lol Hey I must make a correction to do with my blood sugar at 6.7. Just come from mums & dad who has type II diabetes checks his sugar levels all the time. My parents said my sugar levels were spot on, which is true. These young nurses can get things mixed up at times. Oh yeah the tests, should be fun (not!). I have to fast 10pm the night before & can't have anything to eat or drink (only sips of water) until the test starts at 10am. The biggest problem is NO smoking! I phoned them today & asked if I can wear a patch in case I really get the pangs for a smoke. They said a patch is ok. The results should be interesting. I'll go to the shops over the weekend & organise my food. If I eat the wrong thing the test will give a false negative, so they will charge me extra money & the test will have to be repeated & I definitely don't want that to happen. No, I don't get the smell of ammonia from my breath, I wonder what that could be. Hey violet, sorry to hear about you rock n rollin, Bannanny too, that is so scary. So pleased you guys are ok. Love itchin
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