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Post by Harry on Oct 31, 2011 11:17:32 GMT -5
I try to stay away from too much drama, unless promted by people needing a ride on the anti angry merry go round. It seems all is always well here at lyme busters so there is very little drama, like what I see so far, am sure after 39 years with this that there is a large amount of internal issues that one would not like to address all at once. taking it slow and am on still bottle number one. There have been a few issues, stopping and regrouping was the best thing for me. I was trying to help & console Scandi as she stated she was not getting the results as others, I tried to explain as best I could seeing she is using more then necessary is not going to get better results. (the large amount of internal issues that one would not like to address all at once.) this also concerns me, I am told this compound enters the bloodstream to attack Morgellons from the inside, correct me if I'm wrong about this, the maker tells me to spay it on leave for two full days, let it do what it was designed for wash & repeat
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Post by lydski on Nov 1, 2011 12:07:09 GMT -5
Obama said: [ like what I see so far, am sure after 39 years with this that there is a large amount of internal issues that one would not like to address all at once.
taking it slow and am on still bottle number one. There have been a few issues, stopping and regrouping was the best thing for me.]
Is there somewhere u can order this by the botte? I thought you had to purchase it by the gallon. It would be nice to be able to buy less at one time. Thanks.
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Post by scandi on Nov 1, 2011 15:02:59 GMT -5
Thanks harry ive had alot of of intestinal problems all these years so i should probably listen to barackas warnings. By the way im a male Lydski it comes in a plastic " bottle " container 1 pound.
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Post by Harry on Nov 1, 2011 15:15:05 GMT -5
Thanks harry ive had alot of of intestinal problems all these years so i should probably listen to barackas warnings. By the way im a male Lydski it comes in a plastic " bottle " container 1 pound. oops!! sorry Scandi, goes to show you how well my thinking is, sorry to hear about your intestinal problems, have you tried probiotics & papaya enzymes to help??, my Doctor gave a script for Omeprazole witch seems to help me really well, take care
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Post by Baraka Obam on Nov 1, 2011 18:22:05 GMT -5
One item I would like to mention, because I am quite sure this is pushing involvment out of my body everything I see on the skin I collect and put it on the microscope.
I have seen like a pure white speck pushed out of my body under the microscope it was opaque with fibers all through it.
Yes I have seen these before but its unusual.
Less involvment then I would imagine,... more pure would be the host of my soul.
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Post by Harry on Nov 3, 2011 15:46:29 GMT -5
hey Bam!, hows all going?, I wont post anything else on the F-6 stuff till I have been using it more & hopefully keep getting good result. glad to hear it's pushing things out, I can't do microscopes I would drive myself batty for sure, take care ol friend. P.S. haven't used it for a month due to that nasty flu, so seems I'm all good to go.
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Post by Harry on Nov 16, 2011 16:29:39 GMT -5
since I've been using the f-6 these results accrued so far, I've had, the whitish fungus patches that were on my skin that is gone, the fungus problem on my feet is gone, the big thing that I like my shin actually feels clean for the fist time since I got this dreaded Disease, the fuzz balls that would come out of my skin & scalp stopped, I have no itching but a little in my right ear, but when I traet that area it stops
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Post by Baraka Obam on Nov 16, 2011 16:53:01 GMT -5
hello there Harry, i do this stuff 2 to three days on ingesting a level teaspoon and how ever long it takes to make sure I do not bust out the hidden involvement.
I see things that have been perfect showing up on the skin and white plastic like blotches also slowly melting away.
It seems to be doing the job on some things, I have checked the poo for fibers and have found some. Some is not the usual load, it used to be so many more.
I am hoping that soon there will be none.
Taking it slow as I never want to look like I did before, that will sour the deal completely.
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Post by skizit on Nov 22, 2011 13:49:52 GMT -5
Baraka, I'm curious as to why you say you've had Morgellons for so many years when the latest other people have described it is in the early 90's and then especially after 9-11. Just wondering, not inciting a riot.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Nov 23, 2011 4:39:09 GMT -5
Well let me see, I was a boy of 18 years old, in perfect shape, better than perfect.
I was never sick, my skin was excellent, my energy was excellent.
The all of a sudden, exzema, hair loss, skin problems of all kinds, immence itching so bad all over I felt like digging through my skin.
Then cherry anginomas, a single lesion, strange looking on the back of my butt, super swollen lymph glands in my groin.
This was all at once, then when I came home I was covered with bumps for a few days, the same kind a saw a young man with lately, I went into a disco in the early 1970s and under the black light I was COVERED with fibers, they were short little things coming out of my pores.
I watched as all kinds of things changed. I saw the beginning of the lesion material 25 years ago under my skin, but it covered over.
I forget 60% of all my issues, anyway, the doctor told me they were normal.
This does not mean I did not catch a mutated form of this also later on that has been advanced either by the overuse of antibiotics or advanced by mans hand for a purpos.
Still I rather believe that this is a long term systemic stealthy disease
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Post by Lynn on Nov 23, 2011 12:16:24 GMT -5
Hi Baraka
I am so sorry you have been trouble with this for so many years. When I first got the bug mess going and did not realize it had come on me over a period of years I had went looking for help with bugs. I ended up in a forum with a gal who has had this mess now for over 27 years. She was a young women when this mess hit her and had to keep her head shaved if I remember right because the bugs went for her head so badly.
I am a wimp and can not imagine going through all this without the internet and absolute zero support and zero people to talk to that would even consider believing you. That would have drove me into madness. I am so glad to have suffered this during a time with such easy access to those who share the same problem. I sure wish this whole thing did not exist and that if we are to suffer a disease we all just had cancer. I say this while crying to have to wish for a what might be an easier deadly hard disease to deal with.
My husband is so tired of me spraying the bed, burning menthol and spending money on vitamins and herbs. I try to go without, but soon the disease starts in the down hill direction and I have to turn around and build up the immune system or go back to spraying to kill their unseen numbers to have less bite marks and crawling on and in and out of the body. Sometimes I get scared he will put the brakes on and not allow the money to be spent on all the product I use while battling this. He has no clue how hard we have to fight to get even a reprieve or even to get well. He keeps telling me lately he thinks its not bugs. Well it is also bugs being attracted to our bodies. My hubby sprayed the bed for me when I had to go get my grandson real early one day. Well I spray heavily and apparently he does not. He did a light spray and I had the bigger size no see ums get me real good the other night. At least I finally have a spray that weakens and kills them faster then what I use to have and I did discover when I do get attacked by the bigger sized no-see-ums that I get cold and chilled. I spent the next day with hardly any left and they were real weak but I got the chills all evening. Does not happen with the baby ones that feels like worms. The baby ones I can kill as soon as they become active.
In Light Lynn/TorpedoLynn
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Post by Baraka Obam on Nov 25, 2011 15:35:21 GMT -5
These are the facts pointing towards a military foul up. It is my job to point out this to all of you, my long term SLIGHT issues, are primary for all of us, if someone told me they never had any issues and then all of a sudden developed lesions. My responce would be they did not pay attention to their body, plus they have always belived that when the doctor says thats normal, they want to believe that and can not see the relation of their previous YEARS of symtoms to this disease. My long history is a gold mine and I am a history book, here to tell you when this started, it is truly a shame when so many refuse to accept all the hints that come with my experience with this disease. I did not pray for you all to get it so I would be right about my contentions throughout the years, but now that you do have it my words fall on deaf ears, truly I thought when this happened more would listen to the story with history. If Dioxin, the chemical in AGENT ORANGE was the cause of illness for all the soldiers coming home from Vietnam, these soldiers would not have TRANSFERED their illness to their wives and newborns. If the soldiers could transmit this so called chemical disease WHICH IT IS NOT, to others then it would not be ONLY their wives, it would be every woman or man they had fluid transfer with and every woman or man their lovers were with and so on and so on. I think you will find the mass of disease in NEWBORNS started with the veterens early on, such things as being born with adult disease, AUTISM and so much more. You do not have to guess anymore where this condition came from, that I have known since coming back from ASIA. Does the list of horrors look like a sigle chemical agent that actually got on SOMEONE ELSE. Agent Orange is not from chemicals it is a BIOLOGICAL DISEASE that they covered up so easily because people have no realize and this disease is STEALTHY, HIDDEN and LONG TERM. What real answers start to look into the sickness of the veterens and their familys. You can imagine 2nd and 3rd generation are ALSO ill, maybe not as bad as the original people infected, maybe the body can adapt to this. I do not know. Then by now because of the American sexual habits most everyone in America has the baseline HIDDEN STEALTHY VECTOR disease. Can they add to the issue by being subjected to other pathogens, will their hormones or genetic makeup allow certain morhology, will some develope parkinsons while others develope brain tumors and some live almost normal lives with simple symptoms. Believe it or not, this is the best information you can find, I have had my eyes WIDE open since I got this. Because the symptoms changed they did seem unrelated, still the doctors assurance that all these symtoms were normal went on deaf ears. I knew long ago, nobody of my physical condition would be on such a roller coaster ride if there was not a hidden unknown disease at hand. agentorangelegacy.com/reported-illnesses/
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Post by Lynn on Nov 26, 2011 1:54:02 GMT -5
Hi Baraka
I pretty much agree with all you said. I can see now when the bugs hit all over the symptoms I had over the years that lead up to the bad stuff. I think some people though do not get much warning as they come down with it. Kind of silent before the dew hits the fan. That is the way with any disease, poison, allergic reaction. Some people get lots of symptoms and other very few before it blows up.
In Light Lynn
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Post by Lynn on Nov 26, 2011 10:58:51 GMT -5
Hello Baraka
After thought I need to put in. If and I would not be surprised if you are right; The government put a version of Morgellons in agent orange; I want to remember that Morgellons has been around for a very long time. 1800s France. Our version of it is different and like many here say altered by the government, medicine, and it has made itself immune like a lot of disease to medicine. Some purpose and other intentional.
I am so tired of this disease and mostly the expense to keep the level of wellness I have. Not too long ago I really thought I was almost done and out of this mess and I think only my protocol keeps me up enough to not be in deep into this mess. At times I wonder how much more money it would take to kill the dang disease and be well again. I am almost at the point that I can hardly wait for the end to get here just so I don't have to throw another dang dollar at it.
My husband has worked more hours trying to catch us up on bills and he is so frustrated at not being able to get ahead and I feel so guilty for being part of that problem. I really refine how I use product to make expense cheaper, but still hide from him the exact amount spent to keep me from going the wrong direction with the bugs and sores. Maybe he would not do this but I am scared he will stop me from the expense of it and I would be doomed health wise. I did try his route with part of this mess by going to the Dr. for my hip and showed her the wound that festers up on the inside of my leg near my private parts. She said it was fungal and gave me an antibiotic cream which help reduce it and during a few flair ups was not as horrific. But now the cream is gone and it has gone right back to being its old same self in size and festering up stages. That Dr. visit cost me 50 dollars, but it was a multi visit. In the mean time while doing the cream when I had it. The bugs would try to start a new lesion a few inches further away where things are dryer and not real successful but still cause alarm and a fight to keep them from winning the new location so then they go to the plumbers butt of the upper rump area and re-start an old nest that took me a year to clear up. It is so frustrating that they keep trying to open a new nesting site when trying to heal the one that has gone on way to long. I get scared they will start a staff infection from the area being messed up for sooooo long.
Well got off on a rant there. Sorry.
In Light Lynn/TorpedoLynn
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Post by Baraka Obam on Nov 26, 2011 17:28:45 GMT -5
I do not think actually this disease was in the AGENT ORANGE although it could have been. I do have a feeling that China could have lent us this disease to manifest. they were involved in the Vietnam war, North Vietnam was piloting MIGS after all. We swam in waters, we ate food, we slept with the indigenous women. We also laid down in the jungle. These all could have been the vector. I was not in Vietnam, and supposedly was not sprayed with it on the base I was stationed in Korea, was it possible I was sprayed anyway, yes, but not likely. The one thing I imagine is I was with the women that Vietnam vets were with, now if any disease can be transferred by fluid ONCE then that same disease can be transferred many times. Its just a fact of life. Was AGENT ORANGE the carrier of a bio agent, I do not know, it could be, but I do know one thing, all the information on the spread of disease from Veterans to family and others involved, generations of sick, this trail leads us back to the beginning of our awful disease. Don't think so, follow the trail, the trail leads nowhere else. Read the list, it is our disease, what other issue on this planet has a list like this, you don't have to imagine here all you have to do is think. agentorangelegacy.com/reported-illnesses/
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Post by violet on Nov 27, 2011 10:59:43 GMT -5
Hello Baraka After thought I need to put in. If and I would not be surprised if you are right; The government put a version of Morgellons in agent orange; I want to remember that Morgellons has been around for a very long time. 1800s France. Our version of it is different and like many here say altered by the government, medicine, and it has made itself immune like a lot of disease to medicine. Some purpose and other intentional. I am so tired of this disease and mostly the expense to keep the level of wellness I have. Not too long ago I really thought I was almost done and out of this mess and I think only my protocol keeps me up enough to not be in deep into this mess. At times I wonder how much more money it would take to kill the dang disease and be well again. I am almost at the point that I can hardly wait for the end to get here just so I don't have to throw another dang dollar at it. My husband has worked more hours trying to catch us up on bills and he is so frustrated at not being able to get ahead and I feel so guilty for being part of that problem. I really refine how I use product to make expense cheaper, but still hide from him the exact amount spent to keep me from going the wrong direction with the bugs and sores. Maybe he would not do this but I am scared he will stop me from the expense of it and I would be doomed health wise. I did try his route with part of this mess by going to the Dr. for my hip and showed her the wound that festers up on the inside of my leg near my private parts. She said it was fungal and gave me an antibiotic cream which help reduce it and during a few flair ups was not as horrific. But now the cream is gone and it has gone right back to being its old same self in size and festering up stages. That Dr. visit cost me 50 dollars, but it was a multi visit. In the mean time while doing the cream when I had it. The bugs would try to start a new lesion a few inches further away where things are dryer and not real successful but still cause alarm and a fight to keep them from winning the new location so then they go to the plumbers butt of the upper rump area and re-start an old nest that took me a year to clear up. It is so frustrating that they keep trying to open a new nesting site when trying to heal the one that has gone on way to long. I get scared they will start a staff infection from the area being messed up for sooooo long. Well got off on a rant there. Sorry. In Light Lynn/TorpedoLynn Hello, Lynn. I really feel for you, for both your symptoms and your feelings of guilt. I just want to say (and it may sounds trite, but it's true) that your husband loves you--so much--and love gives and gives and gives and does whatever it can for the person loved. Yes, I'm sure that you both experience frustration over the situation--and who would not--but you have shared with us the relationship you have with him, and it sounds like underlying all the problems is a strong foundation of commitment and love. Keep working through it all, Lynn, relying on the Lord's promise of help when you ask him to help, okay? Hang in there. Maybe with the new publication out something will be done soon to establish official recognition of our disease and potential treatment. With much love and concern for you, Violet
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Post by toni on Nov 27, 2011 14:04:56 GMT -5
Hello Baraka After thought I need to put in. If and I would not be surprised if you are right; The government put a version of Morgellons in agent orange; I want to remember that Morgellons has been around for a very long time. 1800s France. Our version of it is different and like many here say altered by the government, medicine, and it has made itself immune like a lot of disease to medicine. Some purpose and other intentional. I am so tired of this disease and mostly the expense to keep the level of wellness I have. Not too long ago I really thought I was almost done and out of this mess and I think only my protocol keeps me up enough to not be in deep into this mess. At times I wonder how much more money it would take to kill the dang disease and be well again. I am almost at the point that I can hardly wait for the end to get here just so I don't have to throw another dang dollar at it. My husband has worked more hours trying to catch us up on bills and he is so frustrated at not being able to get ahead and I feel so guilty for being part of that problem. I really refine how I use product to make expense cheaper, but still hide from him the exact amount spent to keep me from going the wrong direction with the bugs and sores. Maybe he would not do this but I am scared he will stop me from the expense of it and I would be doomed health wise. I did try his route with part of this mess by going to the Dr. for my hip and showed her the wound that festers up on the inside of my leg near my private parts. She said it was fungal and gave me an antibiotic cream which help reduce it and during a few flair ups was not as horrific. But now the cream is gone and it has gone right back to being its old same self in size and festering up stages. That Dr. visit cost me 50 dollars, but it was a multi visit. In the mean time while doing the cream when I had it. The bugs would try to start a new lesion a few inches further away where things are dryer and not real successful but still cause alarm and a fight to keep them from winning the new location so then they go to the plumbers butt of the upper rump area and re-start an old nest that took me a year to clear up. It is so frustrating that they keep trying to open a new nesting site when trying to heal the one that has gone on way to long. I get scared they will start a staff infection from the area being messed up for sooooo long. Well got off on a rant there. Sorry. In Light Lynn/TorpedoLynn Hello, Lynn. I really feel for you, for both your symptoms and your feelings of guilt. I just want to say (and it may sounds trite, but it's true) that your husband loves you--so much--and love gives and gives and gives and does whatever it can for the person loved. Yes, I'm sure that you both experience frustration over the situation--and who would not--but you have shared with us the relationship you have with him, and it sounds like underlying all the problems is a strong foundation of commitment and love. Keep working through it all, Lynn, relying on the Lord's promise of help when you ask him to help, okay? Hang in there. Maybe with the new publication out something will be done soon to establish official recognition of our disease and potential treatment. With much love and concern for you, Violet Hi girls I sure agree Violet, and how kind what you said. Lynn, I sure feel you too. I've been playing around with (ground dry mustard) the spice, and adding that to our shampoo daily which we use for body wash too, and talk about feeling clean, oh yes! Critters of any kind sure don't like mustard, neither does fungus, and when I shower now, shampooing my hair with some dry mustard shaken up each amount of shampoo sure makes for a stimulated scalp, plus, nothing can live in that. I don't put the dry mustard shaken up into a whole bottle of shampoo, because I don't want to leave it till the shampoo is completely used up, I want it fresh daily - so I've taken an empty shampoo bottle, and that gets 1 tsp of dry mustard with a tad of water to dissolve it, then I add in the amount of shampoo/body wash we'll use for each showering/washing. That way it's fresh with each use. I've been lathering up with the dry mustard "wash" all week after watching those (Demodex mites) die instantly when I put a drop of water mixed with dry mustard on them -which I did watching this under the microscope - they can't survive it at all for even 2 seconds. I know Demodex are tough little guys because they can live in scalp hair follicles and skin, and all we put our skin and hair through, for them to survive washings daily with all the things people use, well, they can't hold up to the "mustard". I only mention the demodex, because I saw them, and most people have them, and they're survivors for sure when you think about "all we all apply onto our skin and hair" yet, they keep on thriving....so I'd venture to say, they're hearty as the hearty'est "skin critters". Just have to be very careful not to use too much dry mustard - because left on the skin it can burn it (if it's not diluted or cut with something). I was completely "abraded" when I first tried the dry mustard, because I did the "more is better" thing. Well, haha oh no... not with dry mustard, as it's an instant skin peeler if it's not diluted with enough hair conditioner or cream or shampoo, as it will burn. So more isn't better. I mention this after reading so much about how mites can live in the skin, but..I have to say, they can't cut the mustard ;D and it's very inexpensive, because a little dry mustard goes a very long way.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Nov 27, 2011 17:09:08 GMT -5
I do not believe this disease is actually new but it is advanced past the ability of the immune system to understand and kill.
also not known to me is how the F6 works but it seems to attack the HIDDEN lesions and push them out of the body, more will be known when I find exactly how well it works.
I do not imagine that I got this from bugs as I have only seen one parasite in my urine
Oh yes I have seen a million and one things that could pass as bug thingies, a wing, a nostril, a eye, a antenna, bug dancing shoes, a bug stereo, a bug house, car and such, then nothing but the urine parasite that proves itself to be either parasite or bug in 39 years.
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Post by Lynn on Nov 29, 2011 3:02:08 GMT -5
Hey Violet and Toni
Thank you for the feed back. Sorry I am on a down hill slide emotionally here lately. To much happening all at once lately. From things breaking down one after the other, to my going crippled and trying to stay on top of this disease and top it off my abusive father who I have not seen in 16 years is bed ridden. I am so scared of him and need to talk to him just once before he dies so I will not have any regrets. Such a tough gal like me being such a sniveling little baby and he probably will not make it a pleasant visit any way.
Enough of that. I am going to try the mustard and see how that does. My bugs are still low key, but the health issues makes it hard to keep up with even the low stage I am stuck at.
I have been reading all the wonderful post and videos and trying to keep up. More later.
In Light Lynn/TorpedoLynn
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Post by Harry on Nov 30, 2011 17:39:38 GMT -5
hello there Harry, i do this stuff 2 to three days on ingesting a level teaspoon and how ever long it takes to make sure I do not bust out the hidden involvement. I see things that have been perfect showing up on the skin and white plastic like blotches also slowly melting away. It seems to be doing the job on some things, I have checked the poo for fibers and have found some. Some is not the usual load, it used to be so many more. I am hoping that soon there will be none. Taking it slow as I never want to look like I did before, that will sour the deal completely. Hey Bam I'm glad things are working out for the better that's always good news, sorry I haven't been round for a while, been sick with a cold or some thing, but continue to get better little by little, take care Bam, Lynn, Violet, Toni, and everyone else, it's quite a good product glad that I acquired it surely, how have you been Lynn, Toni Violet, Scandi ??
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