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Post by toni on Jan 3, 2012 13:19:08 GMT -5
Hi Toni I was holding back on reporting, but your info is so wonderful that I will speak forth. I may be wrong but it appears that the debre from my clothes I gently shake over the sink to examine what collected off the skin. The specks are getting so tiny I can barely see them. Something is shrinking them. I still get a small hand full of big easy to see ones. Even all the fake looking beard hairs mostly black some white seem to be gone, the slivers that look like threaded paper or very thin finger nail clippings. I can not find the last one hardly at all. I do notice on extra buggy nights in bed that the evening shower the mustard will pull tons of tiny white specks out of my hair. On top of all this I am having less go up my nose, ears, eyes. I use to wake up every morning no matter how bug free I could get myself with tiny white specks on the ends of my eye lashes and dotting my face hear and there and on my ears. Hardly any of that going on. I have been waiting to see if anything would rear back up. So many times this disease seems to adjust to what one is using and come back from another direction. I almost got away with not using the Vinegar which I want to stop using, but two days ago had such a bad bug night for two nights the hair was stinging my neck. So I put back in the vinegar for now. I am waiting on a new Sulfasoap to come and I am going to try a little mustard 2 tsp in that and see if it will do the same thing and get away from all the expensive essential oils, but I really think to be successful I better have the lotion going too the way you do. So for now I am going to buy the lotion you use and if I think I need something more organic I will worry about that later. I may save my Peppermint soap for just my hair which I always fallow up with Suave's Peppermint rosemary shampoo with mustard. I need to get a pump bottle for that. I have a 16 oz bottle and after one week the mustard in it has weakened just like you said. Thank you so much for sharing and it is a blessing that you are here. In Light Lynn/TorpedoLynn Oh Lynn, this great news. Better and better... ;D I know it's hard to tell or know, for that matter, how each one of us who tries this is using it exactly. Are you also washing your hair and body with the "mustard mixed into your soaps"? See...what's coming to mind too with me is I'm wondering IF when "too many products are mixed together" if one doesn't negate the other...or even dilute it too much. Say for instance, an essential oil "lessens" the mustard's effects? Or...on the other hand, heck some additions might add or enhance the effects. It's all a trial and error on what works with it, as this is somewhat new to me too. I can only say what's doing a great job for me is using it consistenly. Not that I'm walking around packed in mustard, it doesn't take that much at all. But...I'm wondering, if you can use just the mustard (tiny tiny amount) mixed with any body lotion, and see if that brings even more relief. I guess it's just really a "try and see" what works best mixed with it. I guess we need those "dips" hahaha like they do animals, but we could do the "mustard dips". Wouldn't that be great. ;D And I'm so glad Lynn that you're experiencing less problems.
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Post by toni on Jan 3, 2012 13:57:54 GMT -5
Hi toni, First, please check your PMs. My experience with sulphur is confined to sulphur soaps because the old-fashioned compounding chemist seems to be an extinct beast here in Ireland - and you need one of those to make up a sulphur ointment because there are no ready-made preparations available. I've tried two brands of sulphur soap, one from Mexico and one from the UK, and neither had any permanent effect on my demodex. During bad crawly episodes on my scalp, face, and neck, I used to work up a good lather with it on the affected area, then leave it on to air dry. This stopped the sensations dead, but once the soap had dried completely, they would return. Many thanks for the information about MD Forte Hand and Body Cream. I'll see if I can get my hands on it. It would really suit me far better because I can't do multiple all-over applications daily. It takes me two hours each time and my back pain ramps up to intolerable levels. I had been going to try mixing the mustard powder (no water) with sweet almond oil plus a few drops of lavender essential oil. If I can't source the MD Forte here (highly likely), I'll give that a go. Regarding symmetry, my "mirror-image" eczema 10 years ago was on the insides of both my feet and stretched from the base of both big toes to the centre points of my heels. The top layer of skin was completely gone, leaving raw, bleeding, weeping, and extremely itchy flesh. These lesions were absolute mirror images of each other - identical in every respect. Every time I went out, I had to carry a spare pair of socks. Today, with the demodex sensations, many of them (but not all) are also symmetrical. If I get one in my left outer ear, there'll also simultaneously be another in my right ear at the same spot. And so on. I read somewhere that demodex mites are capable of communicating with each other. Whatever about that, I believe they're not as dumb as we'd like to think. For instance, mine stop all their activity 5-10 minutes before I'm due to go shave my head. (Wow! That's just GOTTA be delusional!). I must be mad posting the following on a public website but it may be an important clue. So here goes: I'm single. Since 1992, I've been celibate by choice. I still had the drive, of course, and took the usual steps. After a year of chemical castration caused by the Risperidone, my drive slowly returned to normal levels. But now, whenever I'm feeling frisky, and I attempt to do something about it, these mites go absolutely crazy all over my body, head to toe, until I abandon my efforts. Did I mention that I hate these animals with a cold, cold passion? They're obviously testosterone-sensitive, but whether they love it or hate it is anybody's guess. I know I'm embarassing myself in front of the world but I don't care. At least I've added one more tiny snippet of information that may prove useful for research. Kindest regards. David Bourke David, yes, checked PM and sent back to you I agree about the sulfur *soap* working better than most *sulfur creams* too - because like anything "in our pores" - if the topicals we apply "topically" on our skin then dry out- they cannot work, as they'll lay dried out on top of the skin and can't do anything. That's why the soap would "imho" work better than a cream which would dry, because the soap is used in a hot shower which is helpful in opening up the pores. But like you said, basically it's short lived as far as killing off demodex, and that makes sense too, because one would have to stay coated for awhile with the soap and water and the heat of the shower to allow it into the pores. And we need a product that not only helps open pores on the body and scalp, *like mustard* but also something that will maintain it's active state which is to allow the mustard to be dispersed in some way, be it oil, or even glycerine. I've used that on my face with the dry mustard, but first mixing the mustardwith a bit of water (just a few drops of water) - then into a bit of glycerine which never dries out. I'm sure sorry you had all that problem on your feet, and I hope that's all cleared now. And yes, the symmetry or the mirror images are a dead give-away to something... or pointing to something significant. With the Demodex, I wouldn't know, there's not much I've read about symmetry in "skin problems" except a few, and they don't fit in relation to what we're experiencing. Also, I'd sure believe that about Demodex communicating, as what I've read over the last several years, insects are very underestimated in what really is going on in their worlds. Ants for example, look how pheremones released by them are their communication. So, Demodex might have the same thing going on too, but...I don't know. Look how they can line up like sardines on their ends (20) at a time in one single follicle. Some kind of something is sure happening there, as they all know "just what to do" in order to all fit so compactly. And about the testosterone. Everyone is probably wondering WHAT??? hahahaha ;D I'm playing, but that IS VERY VERY interesting that you brought that up too. And please don't be embarrassed, it's fine and we understand. I have observed...over my 7 or a bit more years of having Morgellons, that "it seems"..now this is ONLY my interpretation or observance, but... I completely agree that when women have a drop in estrogen, and have more testosterone, "whatever we have going on" WILL thrive moreso, OR we can feel it moreso. Same for men...which is why I'm glad you brought this up. So your experience as you've written about is very important imho, and I really believe that's true, as there sure seems to be something with that. Our "hormones" sure do seem to play a huge part in all this too-imho. Maybe for other reasons I'm unaware of, since I'm no doctor, but...as far as Morgs goes, or critters, it sure seems to be a factor.
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Post by skizit on Jan 4, 2012 0:06:17 GMT -5
i'm not quite sure why but I'm putting this here for future reference in relation to the oxidation of bacillus spores and the bioinorganic spores.. Mn oxides produced by spores of the marine Bacillus species strain SG-1 are precipitated on the outermost layer of the spore. We have identified an operon involved in Mn(II) oxidation and the putative "Mn oxidase" is a multicopper oxidase, MnxG. tebolab.ucsd.edu/projects1.html
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Post by Baraka Obam on Jan 4, 2012 0:15:11 GMT -5
Hi toni, First, please check your PMs. My experience with sulphur is confined to sulphur soaps because the old-fashioned compounding chemist seems to be an extinct beast here in Ireland - and you need one of those to make up a sulphur ointment because there are no ready-made preparations available. I've tried two brands of sulphur soap, one from Mexico and one from the UK, and neither had any permanent effect on my demodex. During bad crawly episodes on my scalp, face, and neck, I used to work up a good lather with it on the affected area, then leave it on to air dry. This stopped the sensations dead, but once the soap had dried completely, they would return. Many thanks for the information about MD Forte Hand and Body Cream. I'll see if I can get my hands on it. It would really suit me far better because I can't do multiple all-over applications daily. It takes me two hours each time and my back pain ramps up to intolerable levels. I had been going to try mixing the mustard powder (no water) with sweet almond oil plus a few drops of lavender essential oil. If I can't source the MD Forte here (highly likely), I'll give that a go. Regarding symmetry, my "mirror-image" eczema 10 years ago was on the insides of both my feet and stretched from the base of both big toes to the centre points of my heels. The top layer of skin was completely gone, leaving raw, bleeding, weeping, and extremely itchy flesh. These lesions were absolute mirror images of each other - identical in every respect. Every time I went out, I had to carry a spare pair of socks. Today, with the demodex sensations, many of them (but not all) are also symmetrical. If I get one in my left outer ear, there'll also simultaneously be another in my right ear at the same spot. And so on. I read somewhere that demodex mites are capable of communicating with each other. Whatever about that, I believe they're not as dumb as we'd like to think. For instance, mine stop all their activity 5-10 minutes before I'm due to go shave my head. (Wow! That's just GOTTA be delusional!). I must be mad posting the following on a public website but it may be an important clue. So here goes: I'm single. Since 1992, I've been celibate by choice. I still had the drive, of course, and took the usual steps. After a year of chemical castration caused by the Risperidone, my drive slowly returned to normal levels. SYMETRICAL BUGS, this I really have to see, can you get some pictures of these bugs, I would like to see these bugs, they must be extrordinary. Maybe they have garnered our DNA and are now smart bugs, that would be my idea, yes smart angry evil devil bugs biting to a cadence. What does everyone else imagine, how do they transfer signals, is it telepathy, or do they connect thru the skin kind of like I do not know, holding hands. David can you please explain to me how these bugs came about, is it NANO? But now, whenever I'm feeling frisky, and I attempt to do something about it, these mites go absolutely crazy all over my body, head to toe, until I abandon my efforts. Did I mention that I hate these animals with a cold, cold passion? They're obviously testosterone-sensitive, but whether they love it or hate it is anybody's guess. I know I'm embarassing myself in front of the world but I don't care. At least I've added one more tiny snippet of information that may prove useful for research. Kindest regards. David Bourke
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Post by skizit on Jan 4, 2012 0:36:10 GMT -5
There is evidently some positive results in destroying bacteria with copper and silver ions. The molecular mechanisms of copper and silver ion disinfection of bacteria and viruses Disinfection due to copper or silver ions may result from action at the cell or capsid protein surface or on the nucleic acid of cells or viruses. Metals may alter enzyme structure and function or facilitate hydrolysis or nucleophilic displacement. The means by which cells may reduce the toxic effect of metal ions include: biomethylation, complexation with metallothionen, development of efflux pumps, the binding of metal ions to cell surfaces, and the removal of metal ions by precipitation. The phenomenon of gmultiplicity of reactivationh may reduce the effect of a disinfectant on a virus by allowing a clump of partially inactivated viruses to produce a productive infection in a susceptible cell. Conditions which may affect metal ion]biomolecule interaction include: pH, ionic strength, temperature, dissolved oxygen, presence of interfering substances or light, the chemical form and valency of the metal ion, and the condition of the microorganisms. www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10643388909388351www.biophysica.com/microbiology.htmlCHECK YOUR IODINE LEVEL: Get iodine at drug store. Place a drop on skin. If it is a pale yellow, you are deficient. Repeat every day until iodine is full color. It is desirable to take through skin rather than by mouth. Lack of iodine may be part of identification of susceptibllity. Efficacy of Colloidal Silver on Bacteria www.thesilveredge.com/pdf/Antimicrobial%20Activity%20of%20Silver.pdf
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Post by toni on Jan 4, 2012 12:42:08 GMT -5
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Post by Lynn on Jan 4, 2012 17:10:27 GMT -5
Hi Toni
I appreciate the pics on how to. It helps. It helps when there is brain fog to see with the eye what you have been saying and knock me on the head I could have had a V-8. I have not been putting the mustard in my Dr. Bronners Peppermint soap. Last night I mixed up some more Peppermint soap in the pump with my tree tea oil and rosemary oil and I pr-washed head to toe includes hair. Rinse and then took the mustard in a spray bottle and sprayed head to toe and rinse. I am doing fairly well bug wise today and had a fairly good nights rest with few bugs attacking me last night. Tonight I am going to add in the 2 tsp mustard into the Dr. bronner mixture and see if I can cancel the spraying on of mustard or at least double the punch effect of doing both until I get a lotion put together.
This morning I had a angry bug come out of a pore in the public area and I grabbed an old lotion with lavender in it. It has a clear strand stuck around the inside of its opening. At first I though it was hair and pulled it off and realized it was more like the crystal thread we see coming off us. It started to dissolve into my hand and I rinse what was left down the sink. Maybe a fluke that the lotion was crystallizing and old but what came out of the tube looked fresh and smelled like it was suppose too. Could have been just the little bit that was around the lip of the opening in a constant moist bathroom caused that little bit to crystallize. Well I put some of the lotion in my had and added UN-melted mustard to that and squashed it in my hands and put that into the pubic hair. Burned a little and stopped that dang bug right now. I had no problems yet sense that today. My private area and my lower legs especially my shins are my trouble areas for bug activity. While standing in line at Wally World behind a guy with tiny specks all over him. I got a big attack on the side of my leg about six inches above my ankle.
In Light Lynn/TorpedoLynn
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Post by davidbourke on Jan 4, 2012 18:00:40 GMT -5
<snip> Today, with the demodex sensations, many of them (but not all) are also symmetrical. If I get one in my left outer ear, there'll also simultaneously be another in my right ear at the same spot. And so on. I read somewhere that demodex mites are capable of communicating with each other. Whatever about that, I believe they're not as dumb as we'd like to think. For instance, mine stop all their activity 5-10 minutes before I'm due to go shave my head. (Wow! That's just GOTTA be delusional!). <snip> SYMETRICAL BUGS, this I really have to see, can you get some pictures of these bugs, I would like to see these bugs, they must be extrordinary. Maybe they have garnered our DNA and are now smart bugs, that would be my idea, yes smart angry evil devil bugs biting to a cadence. What does everyone else imagine, how do they transfer signals, is it telepathy, or do they connect thru the skin kind of like I do not know, holding hands. David can you please explain to me how these bugs came about, is it NANO? Baraka Obam, I suspect you're pulling my leg here but I'll answer anyway. I didn't say the bugs themselves were symmetrical - I said the sensations they produce are. In other words, I may sometimes get a tickle in one ear that is also accompanied by another tickle in the same spot on my other ear. And so on. As for communicating with each other, I can't answer that because I don't know how they do it. But we do know that other insect like ants communicate with each using airborne chemical messengers called pheromones. If you visualise all knowledge about life as all the world's oceans, what humans actually know for certain wouldn't even fill a teaspoon. I don't believe in the nano theory. We're just not that clever. The mites that plague me are simply normal human demodex mites that have changed from a commensal to a parasitic lifestyle and infested virtually every follicle and sebaceous gland on my entire body because of a damaged immune system. Everyone on the planet has these mites except for newborn infants, who soon acquire them from their mothers. In healthy people, the immune system keeps them under control. When the immune system breaks down, the mites fancy themselves as empire-builders and become systemic parasites. And that's what happened to me. Kind regards. David Bourke
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Post by davidbourke on Jan 4, 2012 18:15:39 GMT -5
I've just remembered something about using sulphur soap that was printed on the package of the Mexican variety, but not on the UK one.
Essentially, it instructs you to create a good lather on the affected area, then leave it on for 10 minutes.
Finally, you rinse off with COLD WATER.
Presumably, this is to close the pores and keep the sulphur from being washed out of them.
Kind regards.
David Bourke
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Post by skizit on Jan 5, 2012 0:15:42 GMT -5
has anyone tried iodine on either mites, lesions or bacteria?
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Post by homeworld on Jan 5, 2012 0:24:22 GMT -5
Uhhh....negative on the topical iodine.. only thing iodine related that I am doing is oral Lugol's .
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Post by skizit on Jan 5, 2012 0:30:01 GMT -5
Never heard of that. Is that Iodine? The mutant super sporalating bacteria will be found among the likes of "1023 mutant or plasmid bearing strains derived from Bacillus subtilis 168, including a collection of 115 genetically characterized sporulation mutants;"-Ohio State University Collection provides Bacillus strains to da gov-paid for by the National Science Foundation www.bgsc.org/Catpart1.pdfwww.bgsc.org/The Spo0A protein is of course the master regulator for sporulation and other stationary phase developmental processes. www.bgsc.org/New! Bacillus subtilis strains with gene fusions monitoring sporulation initiation, oxidative stress, or the SOS response Why increase sporulation? and what does "Just In Time" mean? www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4TSNP_enUS454US454&q=Spo0A+protein+levels
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Post by xiblanque on Jan 5, 2012 0:53:11 GMT -5
from Dr. Mark Sircus...
"After we understand that iodine is an excellent antiviral, antibacterial, anti fungal, mold and yeast agent we begin to glimpse the catastrophic mistake made for substituting pharmaceutical antibiotics for iodine… only iodine is capable of killing all classes of pathogens: gram-positive and gram-negative bacteria, mycobacteria, fungi, yeasts, viruses and protozoa…
Every 17 minutes, every drop of blood in our body flushes through our thyroid, and if our thyroid has an adequate supply of iodine, blood-borne bacteria and viruses are killed off as the blood passes through the thyroid."-Mark A. Sircus Ac. OMD and "No virus, bacteria or parasite has been shown to be resistant to iodine therapy." -David Brownstein MDlymebusters.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=media&thread=15170&page=1#171812this link has some suggestions for using iodine for different treatments and the post that follows it has a brief breakdown of different types of iodine. xib
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Post by skizit on Jan 5, 2012 1:04:28 GMT -5
Whoo hoo, thanks, Xi. its back to the old remedies. We used to put iodine on little cuts when i was a kid, after playing outside, we'd come in with just about anything, from chicken pox to a cut or scrape. there was always mercurochrome or methiolate and iodine.
I wonder if anyone could do a test with that and see if it works for an area that has fibers/bacteria. I'm talking about the topical application over an area that usually itches or tickles. Check it for fibers first and then use the iodine. Then check it later for fibers and see if you killed the bacteria. If the fibers subside, the bacteria is probably gone.
the websites i listed above have the names of the strains, the scientists who developed them and how they are mutated. the ones of interest are the ones that respond to oxidative stress, initiation of sporulation and sporulation promoters.
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Post by homeworld on Jan 5, 2012 7:50:48 GMT -5
Never heard of that. Is that Iodine? secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Lugol's_iodine Lugol's iodine From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Lugol's iodine, also known as Lugol's solution, first made in 1829, is a solution of elemental iodine and potassium iodide in water, named after the French physician J.G.A. Lugol. Lugol's iodine solution is often used as an antiseptic and disinfectant, for emergency disinfection of drinking water, and as a reagent for starch detection in routine laboratory and medical tests. These uses are possible since the solution is a source of effectively free elemental iodine, which is readily generated from the equilibration between elemental iodine molecules and triiodide ion in the solution. It has been used more rarely to replenish iodine deficiency.[1] However, pure potassium iodide, containing the relatively benign iodide ion without the more toxic elemental iodine, is strongly preferred for this purpose. Likewise, in the Chernobyl disaster some Lugol's solution was used as an emergency source of iodide to block radioactive iodine uptake, simply because it was widely available as a drinking water decontaminant, and pure potassium iodide without iodine (the preferred agent) was not available.
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Post by skizit on Jan 5, 2012 8:14:26 GMT -5
How do Bacillus subtilis get their fluorescence? As part of a living system, it has to be incorporated into their genes. The Bacillus Genetic Stock Center maintains a library of strains of B. subtilis. The also have Fluorescent Protein Tagging Vectors which can be incorporated into their genetic makeup. Please see tinyurl.com/85s8wfo
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Post by toni on Jan 5, 2012 8:33:33 GMT -5
has anyone tried iodine on either mites, lesions or bacteria? Yes, I sure have. In fact not only Iodine topically but Lugols too - but for me, it changed nothing.
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Post by skizit on Jan 5, 2012 8:37:54 GMT -5
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Post by toni on Jan 5, 2012 9:34:27 GMT -5
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Post by toni on Jan 5, 2012 10:42:17 GMT -5
Something (imho) important for anyone using the Mustard Washes.
I found this:
linoleate-enriched oil such as sunflower seed oil might enhance skin barrier function
So...just "off the cuff" what this says to me is, if we mix the dry mustard with any oils, make sure they're NOT a linoleated enriched oil or the delivery might not be as beneficial.
I say this because I can only surmise, as I can't do like the pharms do and spend millions to test applications out but- tested information like this - we can use this to our advantage in applying them with "trials we do".
And this says plenty, if linolenics are a barrier to skin, then we can "possibly" presume that the dry mustard properties of which it consists of, won't be able to disperse in these types of oil very well, which isn't what one would want to kill mites in or on the skin or scalp.
Linolenics are in pumpkin seed oil, grapeseed oil, flax etc. Omegas.
Then there's two types also, gamma and alpha. But..without going into all that, we'll keep it nice and simple or to the point - so probably glycerin or NaPCA which are both water soluble might be best - that is for mixing the dry mustard with, as then the properties of the mustard won't be inhibited.
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