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Post by cliffmickelson on Jan 31, 2012 22:02:35 GMT -5
Well, sad to say, just as was predicted 4 years ago...the CDC Franken-fraud study on Morgellons has lived up to all expectations. Check out Rense radio tomorrow to hear Jan Smith and I take on the latest disinformation and "lack-of-information from our friends at the CDC. Show time is 9 pm Feb 1 www.rense.com/general80/fraudf.htm
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Post by ibzahp on Jan 31, 2012 22:53:50 GMT -5
Great Cliff, really looking forward to hear what you and jan have to say about this study! One small thing you might want to editi is this- michele pearson, the doc that headed up this study is a woman. Thanks for speaking out, you are most appreciated and needed. I think we all need to be heard. No one is too small to be heard. All our voices are needed. This is just not right.
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Post by ruthintoronto on Jan 31, 2012 22:55:20 GMT -5
Cliff I would just like to say thank you for all the research and hard work you do on Morgellons. Will listen in to the show tomorrow. Ruth
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Post by Lynn on Feb 1, 2012 2:06:39 GMT -5
Cliff
Thank you. Your page on the study was awesome and I hope to be able to listen to the show.
In Light Lynn
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Post by ginna898 on Feb 1, 2012 2:58:41 GMT -5
I sure will be listening and your write up was excellent.
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Post by elizabeth67 on Feb 1, 2012 4:31:50 GMT -5
Well said, Cliff. I don't get this. The study says this: Also,we found that over 75% of case-patients reported some exposure to solvents during hobbies. The prevalence of such exposures in the general population is unknown and we did not gather specific information regarding the types and duration of solvent exposures. WHY NOT ?!! And why didn't they looked in to peoples dental records. There is plenty of information to find.... tinyurl.com/6mjl2eotinyurl.com/7uwyfe9emedicine.medscape.com/article/1175276-overviewI am so P.O.
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Post by cliffmickelson on Feb 1, 2012 13:14:13 GMT -5
Hi Elizabeth et al:
As you point out, this study is so full of holes you could drive a truck through most of them. Jan Smith and I plan to take this misbegotten taxpayer-funded waste of ink and paper apart piece by piece as time will allow on Jeff's show.
Our motto at this point is..."Take no prisoners" LOL! By the way, here's a bombshell for ya...Did you know this so-called "study" was completed in the Spring/summer of 2009 and was peer reviewed for proceedure in Sept. of 2009...yet was kept under wraps for nearly two and a half years after completion? How's THAT for a kick in the tail?
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Post by toni on Feb 1, 2012 13:44:40 GMT -5
Something else I'd like to bring up.
Notice how the BOGUS CDC report also:
AGAIN BLAMED THIS to be a WOMAN'S thing!
Just like everything else, BLAME it on middle aged women!
We know we're in a "man's" world whether we like it or not.
But the FACT is, it STILL continues to shine right on through, doesn't it.
(nothing against men here) but, we know how women get blamed it's all in their heads every single time someone can't figure something out. EVERYTIME, and there are NO exceptions. This is the way of this world, and that is what just floors me to the center of the Earth.
Here's an easy one, just like PMS. And it IS LEGIT, because hormones cause the body to go berserk in some women.
But...............for the longest time, it was (women are just going nuts) and it was all in their heads (they said).
No different than Morgellons NOW.
CDC states it's ( middle aged Caucasian women) who this mostly affects.
REALLY?
NO IT ISN'T!!!!
I wonder if any men were even in the study, not that we'll EVER know the truth.
Heck, for that matter, maybe a few of them just went out and bought new cars with the money allocated for the study, because it really wouldn't be the first time that happened either. A vacation here and there, and that's that, then just fall back on "old records" like Mayo's BOGUS study, and it's all in a nice little package in hopes we GO AWAY.
We KNOW, had anyone looked they'd not miss it.
We know one thing for sure, and that's that they turned their heads for whatever reason. And 99.99999% of the time, money is usually up at the top of the list in "reasons" to look the other way. One thing that keeps hitting me between the eyes is that 4 persons affected for every 100,000 as their report says, was low enough for them to say, and justifiy it too, to just simply say, the hell with us.
Forgot one last thing.
In the beginning when the MESH tree at the Library of Science (not sure if that's what it's called) but, Morgellons was listed saying : A strong association to Lyme.
Well, what happened to that?
I just wonder if they are still doing the "hide" the Lyme, so insurance companies don't have to carry that one with any long term treatment covered. That would sure put a kink in their system.
Notice how "no one had Lyme either"?
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Post by ginna898 on Feb 1, 2012 13:48:00 GMT -5
YES, I believe that.
They will ultimately pay for their ungodly behavior when they are judged by the one and only judge that truly counts --- "GOD". here's a bombshell for ya...Did you know this so-called "study" was completed in the Spring/summer of 2009 and was peer reviewed for proceedure in Sept. of 2009...yet was kept under wraps for nearly two and a half years after completion? How's THAT for a kick in the tail?
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Post by ginna898 on Feb 1, 2012 13:58:41 GMT -5
One other thing that angers me is that on that FOX report posted by toni with that IDIOT doctor from New York.
The woman started off the report stating that Diane Feinstein requested the study and then the IDOIT NY Doctor said ...... "oh yeah and it cost $600,000" to find out it was NOTHING.
A political person tried to help and she is made to look like she (DIANE FEINSTIEN) wasted Tax Payer money on a study for a 'delusional' disease that found NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING.
That was deliberate to keep anyone in government from helping us. Further study must be private now.
Thank God for Dr. Stricker who is experienced with the introduction of AIDS who is a believer in what we suffer.
I agree ---- many holes in the study report. If I were a teacher it would get an "F".
The CDC failed.
Our government failed us and this reality is something to be concerned with due to the fact that the government is beginning to control so many things.
Agree with toni ---- $$$$$$$$$ the one with dollars will win in today's world.
People with morals are not in our government.
A job requirement to be in politics is having the the ability to LIE and not serve the public.
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Post by elizabeth67 on Feb 1, 2012 14:01:14 GMT -5
You know, I always wish the best for all people, but I hope these idiots will have their piece of Morgellons some day. Wonder what they will say then...... If I did not have toothache I would help Toni to chew their pissing heads of. Cliff and Jan, you go for it tonight. Elizabeth et al ;D
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Post by ginna898 on Feb 1, 2012 14:10:15 GMT -5
There IS a strong association to Lyme. FACT
Many LLMD's agree with that because so many of their LYME patients are suffering from morgellons.
In the report, they used the LYME TEST KIt that Mayo Clinic uses. It will very rarely pick up Lyme and the best time to get a positive Lyme test is immediately after initial infection. Those who have had it a while will mostly test negative.
Good point toni, because the MeSH shows/proves 'inconsistency' and further discredits their fairy tale scientific report.
With the Army Lab, they used 'crappy' test and Quest Lab.
They knew what they were going to do all along.
The part of the report that floors me is where it says: "In 2002 was the 'peak' of reports and that matches up with the internet talking about it'. ---- Thereby using old excuses trying to make it sound scientific. But we are wiser that the general public and see through this BS.
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Post by ibzahp on Feb 1, 2012 14:47:52 GMT -5
So for 21/2 years we've been waiting for answers and CDC has been biding their time for the most strategic time to release this stinker! what a waste of scarce resources. It seems we live in the dark ages. Good point Toni about how they target middle aged women with the all in your head thing. They are hoping with this crummy study they have silenced us! Funny Elizabeth about getting their piece of this.
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Post by toni on Feb 1, 2012 15:48:09 GMT -5
What comes to mind also is, the strategy they all used. Typical you know.
When something is paid for, and done "quickly" it appears the job was done flim flam, right?
Well, CDC (dragged out this study) from the get go. I mean look at this.
For a prime example: 5 people in the entire USA get salmonella at the same time. CDC is all over it like it's the biggest plague to ever hit the world right?? And they have it nailed in less than a week, the source, the everything about it from A-Z.
Yet....Thousands of people with sores on their body all over this planet are complaining, and they "acted" as though it's some "internet baloney". The debunkers portraying DOP non stop (and we wondered how people could do this), but...they were probably part of the game too.
That was ( the set up for us ). Their game from the get go was to "discredit us, whatever it takes".
Even after CDC said the study had begun. That ALSO was strategic (for the publics sake).... dragging it out as long as they did, like they really were doing some extremely thorough investigation.
The lie has been in motion (from the day CDC said) :
Quote: We "were" going to Study Morgellons in Calif, but couldn't find a place to set up shop.
Remember Dan Rutz's words back then?
We knew then (something's wrong with that picture).
Now we see how we've been manipulated, because it all fits (now) the reasoning behind the whole strategic plan they used.
It was to convince the public that all is fine, that it's only us and our delusions - imho.
That's how they DO IT in politics! It's the EASIEST way out of mistakes and mess-ups while still allowing the bucks to pass under the table.
They "convice the public" that a group or an individual is nuts, and then no one pays attention. I've heard it from the horses mouth. They say (make them look CRAZY) and then it will blow over.
They know, imho.
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Post by cliffmickelson on Feb 1, 2012 16:10:41 GMT -5
Hi Toni
Now that you mention it..It would be nice to know ANYONE who was in the study...Man OR woman...Seems pretty strange to me that as tight knit as the morgellons community is, I have yet to hear of any true morgie who was in the study. Anyone else know a test subject that is verifiable and not a shill or a plant?
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Post by ginna898 on Feb 1, 2012 16:26:22 GMT -5
Cindy Casey's states that she knew one, but they are now DEAD. cbsdallas.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/response-from-cindy-casey.pdfCindy Casey Quotes: "Only one of these patients was familiar to me and was known to have the symptoms and manifestations we identify as Morgellons Disease. Sadly, that patient is now deceased. " What did the CDC do with the deceased from the study?
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Post by ginna898 on Feb 1, 2012 17:51:40 GMT -5
also, the MAYO CLINIC last year was part of "the set-up" to discredit this disease
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Post by itchin4answers on Feb 1, 2012 23:21:27 GMT -5
Well said, Cliff. I don't get this. The study says this: Also,we found that over 75% of case-patients reported some exposure to solvents during hobbies. The prevalence of such exposures in the general population is unknown and we did not gather specific information regarding the types and duration of solvent exposures. WHY NOT ?!! And why didn't they looked in to peoples dental records. There is plenty of information to find.... tinyurl.com/6mjl2eotinyurl.com/7uwyfe9I am so P.O. Thank you for pointing out about the hobbies. That was me for sure. Strange thing though, the sicker I became with the onset of Morgellons the more I worked with soil, doing my pot plants and interior decorating - which I'm very good at. I haven't read the entire reports on the study. Good luck Cliff and Jan. Big thank you again, I hope to catch the show. itchin.
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Post by sage on Feb 2, 2012 3:56:37 GMT -5
One woman, name = Anna Archy (not sure re: the spelling) over on the Morgellons-Disease-Research board claims to have been on the study. Baraka goes over there, perhaps he can find her. She remains "very sick". She has a pro-morg website; I don't believe she's a shill. She commented "they were like lab rats". I get lost over there so I cannot relocate the thread. Waah! sage
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Post by elizabeth67 on Feb 2, 2012 5:08:46 GMT -5
Can someone post a link to the show please? Thank you
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