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Post by curry on Jan 26, 2006 2:01:40 GMT -5
Since Morgellons has all there people working on this disease and they know it inside and out...is it really worth it to keep trying? I am so done! I can't take it...they constantly lie and humiliate...I'm done. Wouldn't it just be less stressful to just leave it in the sites hands and when they know we'll know? I'm tired...I can't take the stress...it breaks me down even further.
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Post by guest on Jan 26, 2006 9:59:57 GMT -5
I totally understand Carrie. I think that often we get so deep into research that we can't quit and then our brains get so scramble from all the information crammed into them in such a short time. If only for a day or two, everyne should take a break from this and rest their minds, as the stress of it all can be almost as harmful as the disease. You're right, the Morgs team is on top of this and I hear they are learning more and more. Nobody should ever blame anyone who has had enough and just wants to concentrate on today and their own sanity for a change. The answers will be found eventually and we all will know abouat it soon enough I believe.
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Post by Brian on Jan 26, 2006 11:22:55 GMT -5
Thats exactly whats happening! All that we do ,say hypothesize,theorize,speculate here onb this site....... STAYS HERE ! NO one comes along and scoops up the highly sensitive information thats been discussed and rushes it to the result department. This is maybe what one would call the waiting room....like at the Doctors office ....the chit chat you have with other paitients while you wait to be treated...... But it does solve the period of waiting idlely by....doing nothing... And who knows......someone just might stumble upon something thats really benificial.
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Post by Skytroll as guest again on Jan 26, 2006 11:44:48 GMT -5
I am tired too. I have so many sites saved, and have narrowed theories, but, there seems to be a specific plan in all this. We are trying to break that plan. Too many govt agencies involved, and the superficial is told us by the media.
So, I say LET'S CREATE A BARROOM BRAWL! That is what they do in Texas, isn't it? Lets dig into the achives of the Library of Congress and get some documents. They are there.
Attack evolution studies, not using Intelligent Design, but using NATURAL SCIENTISTS, that is who we want TO HELP US. They are out there. There has been over the years a group think, that has taken over the medical community, because the policy centers know and can deceive the public. They can scare us, with things like bird flu, which we know cannot mutate unless it has a quorum sensing going on, and/or a bacteriophage that will transfer genes to cause mutations.
Let's start marching. MORGELLONS IS COMING..........ARE YOU READY?........WHAT WILL YOU DO WHEN IT HITS YOU?.........BRING IT UP ON C-SPAN..........LETS DO A SCREENPLAY........WRITE A MOVIE SCRIP..........CONTACT GEORGE LUCAS PRODUCTIONS.......
LET THE PEOPLE SEE OUR FACES..........GET ON TV.......EVEN IF CAUSING A COMMOTION......... PROTEST IN FRONT OF UNIVERSITIES...........PROTEST........PROTEST...........
WE DID IT IN THE 60'S, NOW IT IS ABOUT THE HEALTH OF THE WORLD..........
FIND LOCAL PEOPLE AND GROUP TOGETHER..............
BY LETTER............BY PHONE...........LIST DOCTORS WHO WON'T TREAT US.........
ANGER IS A GOOD MOTIVATOR...............
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Post by stupid smurf on Jan 26, 2006 12:22:15 GMT -5
No actually, it's not. Matter of fact I have found the more your try to browbeat Texans the more uncooperative they become, just FYI.
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Post by skytroll on Jan 26, 2006 12:44:06 GMT -5
Okay Yankees are still out here.
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Post by Brian on Jan 26, 2006 12:52:04 GMT -5
I would have to presume that stupid smurf can back up what he says about Texans not wanting to .......or wait.......that stupid smurf HE DOESN"T SPEAK FOR THE WHOLE HE ONLY SPEAKS FOR STUPID SMURF
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Post by Jill on Jan 26, 2006 13:14:26 GMT -5
Hey guys, what's with pickin' on Smurf? Part of getting well is being positive. You can't claim a positive attitude while picking on someone can you? Not nice. As to the question, Is it worth it? You've got your life and the life of your loved ones on the table. I'd say Yes- it's worth it. Whatever 'it' may be. Yes, I'm tired of looking for clues. Reading for days on a subject that turns out to be a blind alley. So- here's another vote for I'm tired of researching. Looking everywhere for clues. Thing is, due to info on this board and the Bio-board, I have a better understanding of what this could be. The Quorum Sensing that was mentioned on the Fiber Thread makes Quantum Sense. Just as posters on the 'old board' pointed out that the nematodes were being sold to farmers and others (Agri business) for use on crops, I've just learned that Quorum Sensing products have been marketed for some time as well. What does that mean? It means that you may be eating a tomatoe (or a pizza w/tomatoe sauce) that has the QS dealie in it. It could be in your clothes. Cotton. Same as Bt. And who do we have do thank for the QS ?? Among others, Monsanto- the same folks that brought us the Bt (read: anthrax/CMJ) GM seeds. Can't win for losing. Think litigation? I just read where Monsanto took away the farms of over 100 farmers. Why? These farmers had somehow raised crops with the patented seeds- unknowingly in many cases. They have several loopholes- where it does not matter if the farmer (user) knew or did not know that birds had 'seeded' their fields with the GM mutants. They had to pay. Tell me, does that make any sense to you? Read about it here: www.naturalnewswire.com/2005/01/monsanto_assaul.html Unless someone comes up with a surefire paper trail- I'd forget litigation for now. Do I plan on giving up? No way. I know how it feels to be better. It can be done. Cured? Maybe not but better for certain. I should mention that I have not discounted the Mycoplasma/mold/Lyme connection. Somehow it all ties together. I agree Skytroll- you can use anger as motivation. It has motivated me many times. Hey, Smurf- I think you are amazing. You keep doing what you're doing. Keep the faith- we'll get there. If everyone took 1 topic and ripped it apart- learned all that they could about it- posted that info (condensed) on this or any board- think of how far ahead of the game we would be. One topic that could be useful: Which enzymes block Quorum sensing? Which enzymes enable the process? I plan on trying the Borates that were posted (ChemG and another poster) a while back. Will let you know how that turns out. I've read where Borates are QS blockers.
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Post by CA GA Peach on Jan 26, 2006 13:27:49 GMT -5
Everyone: Feeling the way I feel and knowing what I now know for only 1 1/2 weeks, I wonder how you 'ol timers to this disease are still functioning. God bless you all because it's all of You, Faith, a refusal to let this destroy me or those I know and love. Also, I strongly believe we are afflicted for a reason. I personally do not view this as a punishment or karma; I'm at the point in my life to absolutely know I'm in this situation to make a contribution to finding answers. I believe there is a cure and answers and I am part of that solution. I just don't know what it is I'm to do!
Yes, I'm realizing how important it is to get away from this PC and try to be normal. It's healthy for me and my husband to take breaks although I'm not doing it enough. Don't forget what we're putting them through with our sometimes-obsessive search for answers.
Prayer, positive thoughts, Faith in a higher-authority, or whatever you believe is central to our plight. Let's just not forget it's up to us to recognize the positive answer to our prayers. I post again my favorite all-time joke:
There was a real bad flood and while the man was standing on the front porch, a row boat came by to save him. The man said, "No, the Good Lord is going to save me."
The water continued to rise and the man was now on the second floor of his home. Along came a motor boat to save him. The man said, No, the Good Lord is going to save me."
As the water got higher and higher, the man was now on the roof. He heard a helicopter overhead that had come to save him. He again said, "No, the Good Lord is going to save me."
Soon the man was swept away by the water and he drowned. When he arrived in heaven his first question was, "Lord, I had faith you would save me. Why didn't you save me?"
The Lord smiled and quietly said, "I sent you two boats and a helicopter."
We have to use the talents with which we’ve been blessed to contribute to the solution and to recognize that row boat.
CA GA Peach aka CA GA Redneck Peach We southerners have to stick together -- hell, we're probably all related! Smile, StupidSmurf, I think I'm in good company. And not all Yankees are bad -- I'm married to one of the best! Hee Hee
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Post by Brian on Jan 26, 2006 14:02:05 GMT -5
I just hate it when someone puts words in my mouth...Stupid said Texans....so thus being one ...I have to disagree...There is no browbeating here of Texans or anyone else......if you say so then say who...or at least be brave enough to post where your from. when one says something that is just stupid ......welll...sorry smurf just want to fix the real problem....
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Post by Brian on Jan 26, 2006 14:23:22 GMT -5
STUPID SMURF ..... AND WHAT EVER BECAME OF THE PETITION THAT YOU STARTED BACK IN AUGUST of 05'THAT WE WERE ALL SIGNING>>>>>DID YOU DO ANYTHING WITH THAT ? DID WE GET ANY RESULTS ?
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Post by skytroll on Jan 26, 2006 14:31:18 GMT -5
Hey smurf,
A friendly fight, holy cow, heh? Yoopers up here really are quite out in the cold.
Texans at least have it warm there. Doesn't matter, weather is shifting, though.
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Post by skytroll on Jan 26, 2006 14:34:11 GMT -5
jjill,
agree about the enzyme, seem to connect with protein, action, mover to ferment or to break down. So there must be enzymes that will quorum quench. TT mentioned that. I will have to go back and look at that again, too.
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Post by stupid smurf on Jan 26, 2006 14:49:45 GMT -5
STUPID SMURF ..... AND WHAT EVER BECAME OF THE PETITION THAT YOU STARTED BACK IN AUGUST of 05'THAT WE WERE ALL SIGNING>>>>>DID YOU DO ANYTHING WITH THAT ? DID WE GET ANY RESULTS ? It was pinned until just the other day, when they cleaned up (that's not a complaint, BTW). It's pinned on Wine and Roses. It's still there. I don't want to sound negative, but I will say this to illustrate a point. There are 850 members on this board. There are 91 signatures in 4.5 months. I appreciate each and every signature. But this is not going to get us there. We want research? Get me 1000 signatures and I'll bulk email it to everyone listed on the petition on THE SAME DAY. I have the technology. Sorry, that's probably more of an answer than you wanted. But I've tried to organize a few times and frankly we are just not committed to it, as a whole. A whole bunch of people commit, but only a few do the work while the others move onto other things. Just being honest with you. I just decided I couldn't pour literally hundreds of hours into another one of these efforts just to see it wasted, or fall short of it's goal. I know everyone means well, but think carefully before you start down this path. Takes A LOT of HARD WORK AND ORGANIZATION. Now accepting garbage pelting, no carbs please. ;D Here's the link for those interested: www.petitionspot.com/petitions/skinlesionsandfibers
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Post by guest on Jan 26, 2006 14:55:06 GMT -5
Back to the subject: Some people have this infection in their brains more than others and therefore cannot sit and research for hours like some of you can. That's okay, I agree with CA GA Peach. There is a time to fight and there is a time to rest and regroup. There is nothing wrong with either, and regrouping does not mean giving up. There are other ways to help this cause besides sitting for hours and going through sites that one doesn't understand. Yes, we all have been chosen to go through this and we all have our strengths. Everyone is doing what they can with their talents while enduring the specific problems they have been faced with. We just don't hear about what everyone is doing on this board.
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Post by stupid smurf on Jan 26, 2006 15:05:04 GMT -5
I just hate it when someone puts words in my mouth...Stupid said Texans....so thus being one ...I have to disagree...There is no browbeating here of Texans or anyone else......if you say so then say who...or at least be brave enough to post where your from. when one says something that is just stupid ......welll...sorry smurf just want to fix the real problem.... Okay, look. There are three posts with this tone, so slow your roll. First of all I am a she. Second of all I am a Texan and have not hidden that fact. So I don't know what your issue is with me being "brave enough" to post where I am from. Thirdly, my handle "Stupid Smurf" is a joke and do not ever presume to refer to me, or my comments here, as as stupid again. I don't care if you disagree but I will not tolerate the other. I did not say they were browbeating Texans HERE ON THIS BOARD. I was broadly stating MY OPINION that browbeating the big guns in Texas probably won't do any good, and that was not the Texan normal modis operandi. Lastly, you say you want the problem fixed. I am a doer, not a talker. I also have the technial expertise to reach literally 1000's of people in one day, via email, if someone(s) will go get the email addresses. And of which I already have approximately 400. So logical deduction would lead one to a conclusion that I'm probably not the one you want to pee off, when you guys start rallying the troops, to take action. Now, I'm not angry, at all. But that's the story. Take it or leave it.
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Post by Jill on Jan 26, 2006 15:23:41 GMT -5
Back to the subject: Some people have this infection in their brains more than others and therefore cannot sit and research for hours like some of you can. That's okay, I agree with CA GA Peach. There is a time to fight and there is a time to rest and regroup. There is nothing wrong with either, and regrouping does not mean giving up. There are other ways to help this cause besides sitting for hours and going through sites that one doesn't understand. Yes, we all have been chosen to go through this and we all have our strengths. Everyone is doing what they can with their talents while enduring the specific problems they have been faced with. We just don't hear about what everyone is doing on this board. That is funny. There is only one way that there will be an ID and subsequent treatment and hopefully a cure. That one way is the brainstorming of people here. With all the years and all the people visiting various doctors and coming home with a DOP DX- do you really believe that help will be forthcoming from the AMA? My suggestion to those wishing to rest is- rest. Turn off your computer, grab a pillow and rest.
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Post by Brian on Jan 26, 2006 15:27:44 GMT -5
OK I TAKE IT.....JUST DON"T LIKE ATTACKS....WILL FIGHT BACK I'm here for ONE reason only..the samje as you TO GET AN ANSWER SHAKE ?
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Post by skytroll on Jan 26, 2006 15:37:19 GMT -5
Smurf,
I signed the petition, but, my name is not on there. Did not receive a note in mail either. So, I did it again.
I appreciate what you do, but, we all do things differently with the same aim in mind.
Organization, is right, I think Leigh Ann might be on right track too, you are, jill is, whoever is working through the process, we haven't reach end yet.
Your sight has a lot on it. Good too. Thank you.
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Post by skytroll on Jan 26, 2006 15:43:05 GMT -5
Smurf,
I am sorry, I started this whole thing. I was talking about .....BAR ROOM BRAWLS.....LIKE IN THE OLD DAYS.
I know what you meant, though.
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