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Post by toni on Jul 18, 2012 12:08:07 GMT -5
Fox News Bedbugs hitching Rides on Detroit Buses, say bus drivers. Quote from article: If this continues to get bad, you can't force anybody to work in those types of conditions," Gaffney told the newspaper. "It's not fair to the citizens either. Somebody's got to care somewhere in this city." For this person to say: Somebody's got to care somewhere in this city, sure sounds like a familar tune.digg.com/newsbar/Politics/bedbugs_hitching_rides_on_detroit_buses_say_drivers
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Post by Ayla on Jul 19, 2012 15:43:06 GMT -5
I just found out there are two apartments in my building with bedbug problems. One on my floor, the other on the same line as me two floors down. I'm laying diatremaceous earth down on all the floorboards.
This isn't only a problem in Detroit. They need to jump into action. There are a lot of ways to deal with bedbugs but they need to understand that they've got to be all over the problem.
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Post by toni on Jul 20, 2012 11:20:19 GMT -5
You're right Morgticia, they seem to really be exploding everywhere too. Oklahoma News (Bedbugs Shut Down Library) in Tulsa. See news report right after commercial.TULSA, Oklahoma - The Tulsa Central Library is closed until further notice after bed bugs were found. www.newson6.com/story/19045845/tulsa-central-library-closed
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Post by toni on Jul 20, 2012 11:40:09 GMT -5
Bedbug upclose video from internet. One thing, at least if anyone had these, we'd sure see them as they're small, but not (microscopic small). www.bedbugsinusa.com/This link says too that they can live 1 year without food? Wow, now that's scary too.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Jul 20, 2012 14:24:57 GMT -5
First off this number is not small, the numbers I am afraid not only include me and you but most of the population of the united states.
Why do i assume this, because I watched the skin of Americans change, their health diminish, what was once the issues of the old is now the issues of newborns.
1 in 50 children are born with Autism does that suggest a under laying biological cause, blame it on food if you like but I know where I got this so 40 years ago.
I was in the US military stationed in Asia believe me, the US government knows about this disease and they know how prevalent it is.
At this point I would be surprised at those that do not have this disease.
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Post by scabdraggr on Jul 20, 2012 16:48:21 GMT -5
Baraka,funny you should mention autism,which according to science is due to a bowel obstruction that allows poisons to develop there and the child is continously absorb these poisons. M does this just as you mentioned and there are way too many new cases of autism. It certainly would interest me to see the teaching manuals for many diseases.
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Post by scabdraggr on Jul 20, 2012 18:09:15 GMT -5
Here are a few albums for viewing bugs and some may be close to bedbugs,I found some in the bed,does that count?http://s1180.photobucket.com/albums/x405/scrap492/, there are several albums.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Jul 20, 2012 18:59:09 GMT -5
Autism is not the indicator issue by itself it is all disease and especially FULL BLOWN ADULT DISEASE that children are born with.
Knowing when I got this, knowing I am not the only one 40 years ago that brought this back from my military deployment, knowing its stealth, issues and symptoms gives me a window so many can not understand.
Yesterday I talked to another veteren, he searved in the same arena, I asked him how his health was, he said its horrid.
We had not been talking about health but I said, chronic fatigue, eye problems, floaters, skin issues, he also had his gall bladder taken out, he said yes to all my questions, and asked how I knew.
Then he asked me what was wrong with him, I told him to come by some day I would show him with the microscope.
I suggested he may want to get a lyme test still I do not assume that is it exactly.
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Post by scabdraggr on Jul 22, 2012 18:53:24 GMT -5
BO,i totally agree with you that you caught this in se asia as that statement only validates my theory that the creature arriving from se Asia 35 years ago.Thanks for being so adamant about your belief that you did catch this there.That is quite a clue.
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Post by itchin4answers on Jul 22, 2012 20:40:09 GMT -5
BO,i totally agree with you that you caught this in se asia as that statement only validates my theory that the creature arriving from se Asia 35 years ago.Thanks for being so adamant about your belief that you did catch this there.That is quite a clue. I believe my skin consumed this muck when I was very young. I had a skin disease.
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Post by scabdraggr on Jul 23, 2012 7:44:10 GMT -5
The lid is not near as heavy as it once was,maybe it's about to be lifted.
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Post by Ayla on Jul 23, 2012 11:26:40 GMT -5
I really feel the changes in climate might have something to do with this explosion in bedbugs. Either way, these are evolving creatures.
The overuse of chemical pesticides in buildings is probably only serving to strengthen the newer generations of bugs. I sure hope the diatremaceous earth works on them because I've spread it all over the edges of the walls and hate the stuff.
I saw a silverfish walking all over the DE and wonder if it's going to have any effect or if this is hype.
On one site I read that someone put bedbugs in a jar with DE and they did not die.
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Post by toni on Jul 23, 2012 12:30:15 GMT -5
Hi Morgticia,
I think in a small amount of time (days) you'll see the D.E. works incredibly well.
Make sure you don't breathe any of the DE in - that's the most important thing about using it. Fans blowing or the air conditioner 'can' get tiny specks airborne.
Once the DE touches the exoskeleton/skin of many bugs, it's absorbed into them, and literally de-hydrates the bugs. And it really will suck the life right out of them.
It's different from using a spray poison that kills on contact, and the DE is much safer that way in that you can leave it down on the floor or in carpeting, as long as it's not disturbed.
But anytime a bug comes in contact with it, they'll be history soon afterwards.
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Post by itchin4answers on Jul 23, 2012 20:09:27 GMT -5
Yuk! - this article is from 2008. Bedbug infestation on the increasetinyurl.com/d7b4qbp From link:And a survey of 121 pest managers undertaken last year by Sydney entomologist Stephen Doggett found that, across Australia, bedbug infestations had risen by a dramatic 4500% since 1999[, with the biggest rise in Victoria. The bedbug problem is part of a worldwide pandemic, according to Mr Doggett, the author of the Australian code of practice for bedbugs infestations. The code was updated last year as a result of the rise in cases.The insects have built a strong resistance to traditional pyrethroid insecticides, and pest controllers have to deploy almost 1000 times the concentration of insecticide used on other creepy crawlies, he said. And "extreme infestations" have been noticed among socially disadvantaged groups, involving thousands to even tens of thousands of bugs in a single dwelling. Mr Doggett said these occupants usually do not have the money to pay for bedbug control or sometimes are unaware of the bedbugs. In one case, he was called to a guesthouse in Sydney where a man who suffered from cognitive difficulties was found to be living in a room infested with tens of thousands of bedbugs.
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Post by itchin4answers on Jul 23, 2012 20:11:45 GMT -5
Mutating Bedbugs Immune to Common PesticidesInsect experts in Ohio say their genetic study of bedbugs reveals that the pests are evolving to survive the main pesticides currently used to combat them. Writing in the online journal PLoS One, Ohio State University entomologists found that bedbugs are undergoing genetic changes that help protect their nerve cells from specific pesticides. “We're dealing with a different bug than what we were decades ago,” said the university’s urban entomologist Susan Jones. University of Massachusetts in Amherst researchers recently found that bedbugs in New York City are now 250 times more resistant to standard pesticides than those in Florida. The resistance has become such a problem that exterminators are now forced to heat infected rooms to above 111 degrees Fahrenheit to successfully eradicate the biters. www.earthweek.com/2011/ew110128/ew110128c.html
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Post by Ayla on Jul 23, 2012 20:32:27 GMT -5
Toni, Thanks for the encouraging words. The inspector came in to my apt. today with his dog and didn't find anything although he only let him sniff the furniture (because the DE was all along the baseboards). He told me I applied the DE way to heavily, that it should be just a light powdering, that these suckers are so smart, they'll just walk around the heavily powdered areas. Great. Time to start over.
I've been unscrewing all my switchplates and loading them up with DE.
I'm somewhat paranoid about getting bedbugs and concerned that should I get them, that they don't travel to another apt. and bite someone else. I've heard of two people who have gotten Morgellons after having gotten rid of bedbug infestations. Don't care what the "authorities" say, any insect that is a bloodsucker is a carrier of disease. End of story!
It makes sense that the bugs are evolving. They seem to adapt to any pesticide. They're a lot stronger than us. We just get cancer and die.
I know about not breathing the powder, but haven't been consistently using my mask as it's hard to work with. Seems okay (even though I know better). It's more an irritant than anything.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Jul 24, 2012 10:29:35 GMT -5
SHOW these bugs coming out of a person in mass, show them in urine or excrement The bug thing has run its course, there is no proof of anything being done on bugs, even the researchers are on another tangent.
Believe me, I tried to prove that one bug could live inside us, and that is near impossible without a laboratory and people working together to prove it .
DO YOU SEE THE WORD PROVE, add CONCLUSIVE to it.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Jul 24, 2012 17:00:46 GMT -5
I am addressing the whole tribe.
There have been bug disease for a very long time, I agree.
It seems we are sporting some new attributes, attributes such as a never ending list of symptoms .
I have a funny feeling 99% of these people complaining of bed bugs are suffering from the same problem we are, not bugs biting at all, but increase of itching as soon as we lay down.
This happened to me for a period of time, it was way worse when laying down, especially in my ears.
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Post by itchin4answers on Jul 24, 2012 20:37:27 GMT -5
Eight years ago last week, my husband and I came home from a cruise ship vacation. I had trouble sleeping for the next few nights due to increasing nightly itching. I FOUND BUGS in my bed, by placing a white sheet of paper on my bed with the covers pulled back. I'm not sure if they were bed bugs though because I didn't have any evidence of being bitten. Long story short, we burned beds, bedding, couches, carpet, etc., etc., and my exterminator husband treated our home with chemicals. I no longer can find any evidence of these bugs but my symptoms of itching have not stopped, but are dramatically reduced due to ongoing therapies. After about a year I began getting the lesions but I am able to get them to heal. I can't prevent the breakouts of new ones though. I cannot go anywhere anymore without things crawling up my legs. All of my life, I easily picked up things like pinworms, headlice, and pigeon mites, while other members of my household were left alone. Maybe this is an immunity issue. I saw scabdraggr's "proturan" looking bug and was simply telling him that is what it could be. This is a bug I have found all over my home as I indicated above. I've even picked one off of my forehead. It is so tiny that I am always surprised when I look at it under the microscope and see that it is a bug. I am leaving my mind wide open to all possibilities. I am not ashamed to say I have dozens of theories. If not for too many strange experiences, I would even be open to the stupid "DOP" diagnosis that I received from about seven doctors. The things that still live in my hair respond to cold, to sudden bright lights, and to loud noises. We are living a freakin' nightmare, and we should tread tenderly on each others feelings. After all, many of us don't have many people to lean on in this hell-on-earth journey. Dear bb - I LOVED your post, ditto my friend. Love itchin
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Post by Baraka Obam on Jul 25, 2012 0:35:23 GMT -5
No need to defend anything, I have a opinion about parasite and bug infestation, my ideas are narrow but varied.
The problem with me, 40 years of this watching others get it and complain of the itching, all acused bugs.
I must admit at one time I went to a doctor and he said I probably was invaded by bugs, well looking at him I knew he had what I had only he was worse off, that was 25 years ago. Wonder if he is alive.
I did the testing to no avail, 4 time the parasite test, no positives by their standards.
Still I found one in my urine, ONE is usually followed by 101,000 but I never found another, a fluke, get it Fluke, some words for us have more than one meaning anymore.
BB I know many here take bugs serious and so do I if I can PROVE the issue without a doubt.
So far I have not been able to prove anything about parasites or anything else for that matter.
Sorry if my opinion seems combative certainly it is not, we need proof.
Without proof of buggs, talking about bugs gets us a DOP diagnosis.
I do not want one more person going to a doctor sick talking about bugs and being labeled, CRAZY, with no treatment or compassion available to them. If we can not PROVE it is bugs (PARASITES) then this talk about them is convincing others to run into a doctors office screaming and crying bugs are getting me, then they go through the same exact hell you and everyone else here has gone through for what reason, WHO WANTS THAT, and also who needs it.
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